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(Daily Kos)   How to get ejected from your state assembly gallery: a) Shout out protest slogans b) Talk louder than the debate c) put duct tape over your mouth   (dailykos.com) divider line 79
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2013-06-14 12:51:03 PM
They feed us cheap beer in the hopes that we forget how awful the state is under Scott Walker et al. Somehow, Republicans think they can build Walker into a presidential candidate and try out all this lockdown law against the people, when in 2012 there was a Wisconsin guy on the ticket for the reds and the people voted against him.
 
2013-06-14 01:38:00 PM

Triple Oak: They feed us cheap beer in the hopes that we forget how awful the state is under Scott Walker et al. Somehow, Republicans think they can build Walker into a presidential candidate and try out all this lockdown law against the people, when in 2012 there was a Wisconsin guy on the ticket for the reds and the people voted against him.


Many political analysts are saying that the mandatory ultrasound law, assuming Walker signs it, will be the death knell for any presidential hopes for him. Of course, he is so arrogant, he probably thinks this will increase his chances.
 
2013-06-14 03:16:52 PM

catmandu: Triple Oak: They feed us cheap beer in the hopes that we forget how awful the state is under Scott Walker et al. Somehow, Republicans think they can build Walker into a presidential candidate and try out all this lockdown law against the people, when in 2012 there was a Wisconsin guy on the ticket for the reds and the people voted against him.

Many political analysts are saying that the mandatory ultrasound law, assuming Walker signs it, will be the death knell for any presidential hopes for him. Of course, he is so arrogant, he probably thinks this will increase his chances.


Good.
 
2013-06-14 03:17:05 PM
President Walker.  hahahaha  shoot me now.
 
2013-06-14 03:18:09 PM

Soup4Bonnie: President Walker.  hahahaha  shoot me now.


*bang*
 
2013-06-14 03:18:45 PM
This is how Republicans govern.
 
2013-06-14 03:19:45 PM

catmandu: Of course, he is so arrogant, he probably thinks this will increase his chances.


What I find funniest about him is that he got his political career started by winning a recall election.  But as soon as he's a target of one, they're bad for the state.
 
2013-06-14 03:20:52 PM
Well, it wasn't so much that, it was that he did the "Mummmurmummiemurrmahurr" thing when they asked him why.
 
2013-06-14 03:23:45 PM
Government of the People, by the people and for the people
 "the right of the people...to petition the Government for a redress of .."
 
2013-06-14 03:27:58 PM

Cheron: Government of the People, by the people and for the people
 "the right of the people...to petition the Government for a redress of .."


The former applies to selecting Representatives and Senators, the latter to the right to lobby and petition. The former does not grant individual citizens the right to interrupt parliamentary procedure, nor does the latter extend that right to petition in the time, place and manner of the petitioner's choosing.

// and sometimes, government just sucks
// are docs in WI ready to civilly disobey this law?
 
2013-06-14 03:28:26 PM
Emulating Kansas isn't a goal, Wisconsinites.
 
2013-06-14 03:29:06 PM
Our proud once progressive state now run by mouthbreathing followers of derp.  Where are those 250000 new jobs Scooter? That laser focus on jobs is doing wonders asshat since we are 49th in job creation in the nation now.

/not enough beer and cheese to fix this problem
 
2013-06-14 03:29:20 PM
Come to Minnesota, because the Packers and Walkers suck
 
2013-06-14 03:32:54 PM
Congratulations Wisconsin, you deserve it.
 
2013-06-14 03:33:09 PM

eagles95: Our proud once progressive state now run by mouthbreathing followers of derp.  Where are those 250000 new jobs Scooter? That laser focus on jobs is doing wonders asshat since we are 49th in job creation in the nation now.

/not enough beer and cheese to fix this problem


Obama's fault.
 
2013-06-14 03:33:52 PM
YOU CANNOT DISSENT IN WISCONSIN! WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU ARE, AMERICA?!!??

/yep... cheesier by the minute
 
2013-06-14 03:35:30 PM

DORMAMU: Soup4Bonnie: President Walker.  hahahaha  shoot me now.

*bang*


Well he did ask.  At least he went out happy.
 
2013-06-14 03:37:39 PM
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2013-06-14 03:38:27 PM

regindyn: Emulating Kansas isn't a goal, Wisconsinites.


Oh we are trying!! Impossible to get abortions. ID to vote. Turn away money for AHCA. Vouchers for charter schools and cut public school funding for the whole state.


...sigh
 
2013-06-14 03:40:14 PM

YoungSwedishBlonde: Come to Minnesota, because the Packers and Walkers suck


LOL...will all of the Vikings Super Bowl trophies bring us happiness?
 
2013-06-14 03:42:13 PM

catmandu: Triple Oak: They feed us cheap beer in the hopes that we forget how awful the state is under Scott Walker et al. Somehow, Republicans think they can build Walker into a presidential candidate and try out all this lockdown law against the people, when in 2012 there was a Wisconsin guy on the ticket for the reds and the people voted against him.

Many political analysts are saying that the mandatory ultrasound law, assuming Walker signs it, will be the death knell for any presidential hopes for him. Of course, he is so arrogant, he probably thinks this will increase his chances.


To be fair, while the rape-wand bill decreases his chances of winning the Presidency, it increases his chances of winning the Republican nomination.
 
2013-06-14 03:43:24 PM

eagles95: YoungSwedishBlonde: Come to Minnesota, because the Packers and Walkers suck

LOL...will all of the Vikings Super Bowl trophies bring us happiness?


Rodgers will defect when he finally meets the man of his dreams.
 
2013-06-14 03:47:43 PM
Wisconsin is working really hard to put the Florida tag out of business.
 
2013-06-14 03:48:12 PM
Republicans estimate that removal of the tape will cost the state $7.5 million.
 
2013-06-14 03:50:51 PM

someonelse: Republicans estimate that removal of the tape will cost the state $7.5 million.


Well played good sir
 
2013-06-14 03:51:36 PM

someonelse: Republicans estimate that removal of the tape will cost the state $7.5 million.



LOL

I love how the $7.5 million ended up actually costing a little over $200K
 
2013-06-14 03:51:52 PM

MFAWG: catmandu: Triple Oak: They feed us cheap beer in the hopes that we forget how awful the state is under Scott Walker et al. Somehow, Republicans think they can build Walker into a presidential candidate and try out all this lockdown law against the people, when in 2012 there was a Wisconsin guy on the ticket for the reds and the people voted against him.

Many political analysts are saying that the mandatory ultrasound law, assuming Walker signs it, will be the death knell for any presidential hopes for him. Of course, he is so arrogant, he probably thinks this will increase his chances.

Good.


Uh--Rick Santorum supports this same type of stuff (although his ability to enact them, being whom he is in government, is a little more difficult) and he brought home a farking still born baby to pray over it. That's farking weird. What Walker is doing is basically Republican party ideology.
 
2013-06-14 03:59:25 PM

zedster: someonelse: Republicans estimate that removal of the tape will cost the state $7.5 million.

Well played good sir


That's ma'am. Don't you dare try to deny me my government mandated transvaginal ultrasound.
 
2013-06-14 04:04:27 PM

TimonC346: What Walker is doing is basically Republican party ideology.


But it will destroy his chance to be a viable national candidate. He will be marginalized as just another semi-literate rightwing nutjob in the national spotlight, and rightly so.
 
2013-06-14 04:05:57 PM

someonelse: zedster: someonelse: Republicans estimate that removal of the tape will cost the state $7.5 million.

Well played good sir

That's ma'am. Don't you dare try to deny me my government mandated transvaginal ultrasound.


no ma'am I wouldn't dare

www.stevelichtman.com
 
2013-06-14 04:06:22 PM
catmandu
I love how the $7.5 million ended up actually costing a little over $200K

And practically all of that was routine grounds repair that was already scheduled.
 
2013-06-14 04:06:50 PM
Remember, my fellow Wisconsinites: you voted for this. Twice. We gave you the chance to keep this from happening, and you specifically said 'No, no, I WANT me some of that'.

Hope you're happy. Enjoy.
 
2013-06-14 04:08:05 PM
Let me say that I hate the very concept of this law, I'd love to see a provision added requiring every legislator who voted for it to submit to Trans rectal ultrasounds for every woman abused in this way.

That said, the gallery of the legislature is not the place to hold a protest. The people on the floor are there by virtue of the ballot box. Any act other than simple observation serves to disenfranchise the voters who sent them to the floor.

If something is important enough to risk arrest over and you engage in civil disobedience then it is a touch disingenuous to act surprised when that arrest happens.
 
2013-06-14 04:10:27 PM

Fjornir: That said, the gallery of the legislature is not the place to hold a protest. The people on the floor are there by virtue of the ballot box. Any act other than simple observation serves to disenfranchise the voters who sent them to the floor.

If something is important enough to risk arrest over and you engage in civil disobedience then it is a touch disingenuous to act surprised when that arrest happens.


That was barely even a protest. They didn't say anything, one person clapped and it got two whole farking rows worth of gallery cleared. They pretty much got arrested for participating in government while liberal.
 
2013-06-14 04:10:49 PM
It amazes me that this sort of thing just happens. Like it is OK and normal.... Raping woman so they can get an abortion? How can anyone remotely think that is OK?

/small government!
 
2013-06-14 04:26:21 PM
Jesus, even the governor of Virginia vetoed this nonsense.  I really don't understand what kind of battle the Wisconsin GOP think they are winning here.  This is something that identifies largely along party lines but with an awful lot of quiet crossover.  Pregnancy doesn't care what party you belong to, and there's a lot of hypocrisy when suddenly it's their daughter who is pregnant.

Well WI GOP, now your daughters are going to be raped by science, and you cheered the law that enabled this.
 
2013-06-14 04:28:08 PM

Gosling: Fjornir: That said, the gallery of the legislature is not the place to hold a protest. The people on the floor are there by virtue of the ballot box. Any act other than simple observation serves to disenfranchise the voters who sent them to the floor.

If something is important enough to risk arrest over and you engage in civil disobedience then it is a touch disingenuous to act surprised when that arrest happens.

That was barely even a protest. They didn't say anything, one person clapped and it got two whole farking rows worth of gallery cleared. They pretty much got arrested for participating in government while liberal.


Participation in your state legislature does not happen in legislative session unless you are an elected rep. That's the fundamental thing about representative government.

Don't know for sure what their rules are, but I bet they could have run the whole thing in executive session, if they wanted to.
 
2013-06-14 04:30:33 PM
Fjornir
Any act other than simple observation serves to disenfranchise the voters who sent them to the floor.

Good. fark them.
For the last two years the best way to make progress in Wisconsin government has been to disrupt its operation.
 
2013-06-14 04:31:59 PM

RanDomino: Fjornir
Any act other than simple observation serves to disenfranchise the voters who sent them to the floor.

Good. fark them.
For the last two years the best way to make progress in Wisconsin government has been to disrupt its operation.


K. Then see my comment re: practicing civil disobedience
 
2013-06-14 05:22:41 PM
I grew up in WI and I hate that farking farktard and his farktardery with the fire of a thousand suns. I don't even want to visit my folks because not only am I pissed at the GOP, I am triply pissed at the residents for being such idiots. You have a recall election and puss out? Yeah, you deserve it.

Scooter came to speak at a dinner honoring a well run, union workplace. It takes being a weapons-grade hypocrite to do that, and as far as I'm concerned the people clapping politely instead of walking out are collaborators.
 
2013-06-14 05:31:39 PM
Wisconsin: making me feel slightly less bad about how horrible Michigan's government has been, 3 years running.

Lansing just overrules the entire state's choice on ballot proposals, does a midnight Right to Work legislation, and took money from working and middle class tax credits, handed it to large businesses, and made sure that it wouldn't take effect until after the elections.

But compared to this crap?  Well... could be worse.  I guess.

/hope I didn't just jinx myself with that
 
2013-06-14 05:34:36 PM

YoungSwedishBlonde: Come to Minnesota, because the Packers and Walkers suck


Wisconsin, so bad even former Nazis won't hide there.
 
2013-06-14 05:36:40 PM
I'm genuinely curious how these mandated ultrasounds work in the few states that already have them. I know the ulterior motive behind the policy is to have the doctor or technician convince the patient not to abort by pointing out babby head, etc. And I know that the patient isn't obliged to look at the screen, either. But can she, like, wear ear buds? Read a book? How forcefully does the doctor/nurse/technician have to be about making her pay attention?
 
2013-06-14 05:39:07 PM

Gosling: Remember, my fellow Wisconsinites: you voted for this. Twice. We gave you the chance to keep this from happening, and you specifically said 'No, no, I WANT me some of that'.

Hope you're happy. Enjoy.


More than a million people voted against him in the recall election, me included, and he still ended up winning. I took advantage of the chance to see him off, and not enough people around felt the same. I hate seeing this, getting lumped in with a group of people who helped ruin our state economy.

There was a beautifully simple point made recently, can't remember where: "How conflicted are the people of Wisconsin to elect into power both Scott Walker and Tammy Baldwin?"
 
2013-06-14 05:44:54 PM
So, is this sufficient suppression of well-past-peaceful protest that even centrist liberals can recognize that this is unacce-

Fjornir:K. Then see my comment re: practicing civil disobedience

Oh, okay, guess not.
 
2013-06-14 05:46:34 PM
Janusdog
the people clapping politely instead of walking out are collaborators.

I like the cut of your jib.
 
2013-06-14 05:51:28 PM
Someone is likely to get a very angry explanation of the first amendment from the courts, and that someone will be the state of Wisconsin
 
2013-06-14 05:51:46 PM

someonelse: I'm genuinely curious how these mandated ultrasounds work in the few states that already have them. I know the ulterior motive behind the policy is to have the doctor or technician convince the patient not to abort by pointing out babby head, etc. And I know that the patient isn't obliged to look at the screen, either. But can she, like, wear ear buds? Read a book? How forcefully does the doctor/nurse/technician have to be about making her pay attention?


I can promise you, if you are there for an abortion, you are too busy thinking about getting raped with a wand and trying to get through all the hoops to get to the end to process babby parts.

The whole thing is vile and I'm 100% on board to require intra-penile urethral probes to get Viagra. You know, so you are totally informed medically.
 
2013-06-14 05:52:44 PM
WhyteRaven74
Someone is likely to get a very angry explanation of the first amendment from the courts, and that someone will be the state of Wisconsin

Would these be the same courts that are capped by a Republican-dominated State Supreme Court?
 
2013-06-14 05:53:22 PM

Fjornir: , the gallery of the legislature is not the place to hold a protest.


Many a protest has happened from there, without any arrests. Indeed one could say there is no better place to protest.
 
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