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(Huffington Post)   Kansas school board votes 8-2 to bring their curriculum into the 20th century   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 87
    More: Spiffy, Kansas, Thomas B. Fordham Institute, curriculum, school boards, climate change, Kansas State Board of Education  
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2013-06-14 11:53:00 AM  
maybe there's hope...
 
2013-06-14 12:02:12 PM  

FlashHarry: maybe there's hope...


...and then I read this, "While Kansas updates its statewide curriculum, a school board in Ohio is currently considering adopting creationism into its curriculum, despite opposition from the American Civil Liberties Union."
 
2013-06-14 12:02:23 PM  
You see this, Mississippi?  Even Krazy Kansas is in front of you.
 
2013-06-14 12:06:19 PM  

raerae1980: Ohio is currently considering adopting creationism into its curriculum


teaching christian mythology as science is unconstitutional.
 
2013-06-14 12:07:55 PM  
They're just doing that so they can justify "teaching the controversy"
 
2013-06-14 12:24:07 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: They're just doing that so they can justify "teaching the controversy"


There is a controversy between genuine science and pseudo-science. Today we'll be teaching you how to tell the difference between them.
 
2013-06-14 01:37:14 PM  

wxboy: You see this, Mississippi?  Even Krazy Kansas is in front of you.


Yeah, just yesterday we were reading about Brownbackistan.  The situation sure evolved quickly.
 
2013-06-14 03:02:13 PM  
Criticsthe approved curriculum...places too much emphasis on hands-on learning.

Seriously? This is a complaint?

Call me crazy, but I think it's just as important for kids to understand the methods of science as it is for them to understand the body of knowledge that science has developed.
 
2013-06-14 03:33:50 PM  
They're going to be so excited when they get to the end and learn about the internet.
 
2013-06-14 03:52:05 PM  

eraser8: Critics:  the approved curriculum...places too much emphasis on hands-on learning.

Seriously? This is a complaint?

Call me crazy, but I think it's just as important for kids to understand the methods of science as it is for them to understand the body of knowledge that science has developed.


harrypotter.neoseeker.com

// there's a reason this was part of her "plan"
 
2013-06-14 04:04:29 PM  
Praise Jesus for this.
 
2013-06-14 04:10:43 PM  
The Board of Education has flip-flopped on this stuff a bunch over the last decade. One year, there was be no room in the curriculum for teaching creationism or intelligent design. The next, evolution had to share time with creationism. I have no hopes that this will stick with the idiots who are running the legislature.
 
2013-06-14 04:11:22 PM  
Ruh roh.  Family reunions in Kansas will include a lot less Ruffies once they find out about genetics.
 
2013-06-14 04:14:27 PM  
Sad that such old science is part of a curriculum called "Next Generation."
 
2013-06-14 04:18:43 PM  

raerae1980: FlashHarry: maybe there's hope...

...and then I read this, "While Kansas updates its statewide curriculum, a school board in Ohio is currently considering adopting creationism into its curriculum, despite opposition from the American Civil Liberties Union."


That Batavia story?  Yeah.  Quality place.  275 is the Great Wall of Cincinnati.
 
2013-06-14 04:18:51 PM  
They're getting close.  Just one more century to go.
 
2013-06-14 04:19:09 PM  
DAR-WIN
 
2013-06-14 04:20:24 PM  

coeyagi: Ruh roh.  Family reunions in Kansas will include a lot less Ruffies once they find out about genetics.


Where the hell else am I supposed to meet wimmin??
 
2013-06-14 04:23:18 PM  

eraser8: Critics:  the approved curriculum...places too much emphasis on hands-on learning.

Seriously? This is a complaint?

Call me crazy, but I think it's just as important for kids to understand the methods of science as it is for them to understand the body of knowledge that science has developed.


Nope. Hands-on learning is commie sharia progressive education. Mr. Gradgrind will have these children learn only facts!
 
2013-06-14 04:23:19 PM  
But it's the 21st century.
 
2013-06-14 04:23:58 PM  
Charles Darwin published Origin of Species in 1859.  Mendel's work on genes predates this.
Global Warming was pretty much a known fact in the 1990s, so maybe they can claim twentieth century.
 
2013-06-14 04:24:28 PM  

Tomahawk513: raerae1980: FlashHarry: maybe there's hope...

...and then I read this, "While Kansas updates its statewide curriculum, a school board in Ohio is currently considering adopting creationism into its curriculum, despite opposition from the American Civil Liberties Union."

That Batavia story?  Yeah.  Quality place.  275 is the Great Wall of Cincinnati.


Batavia is a shiathole, but the district in question is Springboro, which is in Montgomery County.  People there are wealthy enough to know better.
 
2013-06-14 04:25:44 PM  
So does this make them 13 or 113 years behind now?
 
2013-06-14 04:28:11 PM  
Did Kansas have a sudden face-to-face with reality?  I find this article hard to believe.
 
2013-06-14 04:28:50 PM  

MagicianNamedGob: But it's the 21st century.


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2013-06-14 04:30:11 PM  

Lsherm: Tomahawk513: raerae1980: FlashHarry: maybe there's hope...

...and then I read this, "While Kansas updates its statewide curriculum, a school board in Ohio is currently considering adopting creationism into its curriculum, despite opposition from the American Civil Liberties Union."

That Batavia story?  Yeah.  Quality place.  275 is the Great Wall of Cincinnati.

Batavia is a shiathole, but the district in question is Springboro, which is in Montgomery County.  People there are wealthy enough to know better.


First, "Batavia is a shiathole." Yes.  This.

Second, are you sure about that?  Map places Springboro south of Montgomery county.

Third, Good for you Kansas, now if you could only let rational thought into your political decisions.
 
2013-06-14 04:30:29 PM  

Almost Everybody Poops: Did Kansas have a sudden face-to-face with reality?  I find this article hard to believe.


Don't worry. Things will change shortly. The Koch brothers made sure the legislature was dominated by ultra-conservatives last year, and they'll do the same to the Board of Education next year.
 
2013-06-14 04:31:38 PM  

Almost Everybody Poops: Did Kansas have a sudden face-to-face with reality?  I find this article hard to believe.


Dude I know, but it's true.  For whatever reason, curriculum has survived the Tea Party onslaught.
 
2013-06-14 04:36:49 PM  
Too bad it's the 21st century. But I guess progress is progress.
 
2013-06-14 04:37:04 PM  

Dr Dreidel: eraser8: Critics:  the approved curriculum...places too much emphasis on hands-on learning.

Seriously? This is a complaint?

Call me crazy, but I think it's just as important for kids to understand the methods of science as it is for them to understand the body of knowledge that science has developed.



// there's a reason this was part of her "plan"


It does say something when fans find her MORE loathesome and inhuman than the crazed evil genocide-planning big bad.
 
2013-06-14 04:39:07 PM  
OOOOOOOO! MASSUHS KOCH AND KOCH AIN'T GONNUH DONE LIKE DIS!!
 
2013-06-14 04:40:09 PM  
Evolution and climate change? In Kansas schools?

So when's the recall?
 
2013-06-14 04:41:00 PM  

Almost Everybody Poops: Did Kansas have a sudden face-to-face with reality?  I find this article hard to believe.


Perhaps the Job Creators (TM) that Kansas is trying to entice into the state explained to them that they'd prefer their kids not grow up to be uneducated, tax rates be damned.
 
2013-06-14 04:41:56 PM  
Those board members being recalled in 3... 2...
 
2013-06-14 04:41:57 PM  

Serious Black: Almost Everybody Poops: Did Kansas have a sudden face-to-face with reality?  I find this article hard to believe.

Don't worry. Things will change shortly. The people of Kansas Koch brothers made sure the legislature was dominated by ultra-conservatives last year, and they'll do the same to the Board of Education next year.


FTFY

The fact that voters are easily fooled by shiny pitchers and loud noises on the teevee machine doesn't make the system any less democratic.
 
2013-06-14 04:45:09 PM  

eraser8: Critics:  the approved curriculum...places too much emphasis on hands-on learning.

Seriously? This is a complaint?

Call me crazy, but I think it's just as important for kids to understand the methods of science as it is for them to understand the body of knowledge that science has developed.


Yes true. But I would say hands on and understanding scientific method are not the same thing. You can do lots of experiments without ever understanding what scientific method is. And you can learn what scientific method is without doing any experiments. It is best probably to do both. Using hands on to learn scientific method..
 
2013-06-14 04:45:27 PM  
If it was just evolution it'd actually be bringing them into the 19th century.
 
2013-06-14 04:46:33 PM  

Lsherm: Tomahawk513: raerae1980: FlashHarry: maybe there's hope...

...and then I read this, "While Kansas updates its statewide curriculum, a school board in Ohio is currently considering adopting creationism into its curriculum, despite opposition from the American Civil Liberties Union."

That Batavia story?  Yeah.  Quality place.  275 is the Great Wall of Cincinnati.

Batavia is a shiathole, but the district in question is Springboro, which is in Montgomery County.  People there are wealthy enough to know better.


My ex-girlfriend is from Springboro. *shudders*
 
2013-06-14 04:46:44 PM  
As has already been mentioned in this thread, this the 21st century. Great strides have been made! *eyeroll*
 
2013-06-14 04:47:48 PM  
Good to see there's at least one part of the Kansas government that hasn't been taken over by the Brownbackistanis.
 
2013-06-14 04:48:00 PM  

TheBlackrose: Evolution and climate change? In Kansas schools?

So when's the recall?


Corvus: Those board members being recalled in 3... 2...


The Kansas Constitution only allows recalls in cases of felony conviction, misconduct in office, or failure to perform duties described by law. Since there's no law stating teachers can't teach evolution and climate change, any recall petition would automatically fail for being filed under unlawful grounds.
 
2013-06-14 04:48:38 PM  

Corvus: Those board members being recalled in 3... 2...


That's kind of what I was thinking. Critical thinking, facts, and the scientific method are typically frowned upon in Kansas.
 
2013-06-14 04:48:49 PM  

The Name: Serious Black: Almost Everybody Poops: Did Kansas have a sudden face-to-face with reality?  I find this article hard to believe.

Don't worry. Things will change shortly. The people of Kansas Koch brothers made sure the legislature was dominated by ultra-conservatives last year, and they'll do the same to the Board of Education next year.

FTFY

The fact that voters are easily fooled by shiny pitchers and loud noises on the teevee machine doesn't make the system any less democratic.


Trust me, I know all too well.

/I weep for Brownbackistan
 
2013-06-14 04:52:36 PM  
I applaud the School Board for making the right decision.  I just feel bad for them preemptively, knowing that the legislature will likely overturn this.
 
2013-06-14 04:52:57 PM  
Just saw a documentary on Netflix about the Texas BOE, the lunatic Young Earth Creationist that heads it, and how they influence textbooks all over the country. Not a great documentary, but I was shocked at the level of stupid. I mean, absolute mouth-breathing morons.
 
2013-06-14 04:56:01 PM  

Serious Black: The Name: Serious Black: Almost Everybody Poops: Did Kansas have a sudden face-to-face with reality?  I find this article hard to believe.

Don't worry. Things will change shortly. The people of Kansas Koch brothers made sure the legislature was dominated by ultra-conservatives last year, and they'll do the same to the Board of Education next year.

FTFY

The fact that voters are easily fooled by shiny pitchers and loud noises on the teevee machine doesn't make the system any less democratic.

Trust me, I know all too well.

/I weep for Brownbackistan


I am from Overland Park. I'm an engineer and many of the people I went to high school with are successful scientists, doctors, and a variety of other professionals. I graduated high school in 1995. I know you don't agree with the politics of many of the elected officials but lets not pretend like in 3 years we are going to be witnessing public witch burnings in Topeka.
 
2013-06-14 04:57:08 PM  
Serious Black:The Kansas Constitution only allows recalls in cases of felony conviction, misconduct in office, or failure to perform duties described by law. Since there's no law stating teachers can't teach evolution and climate change, any recall petition would automatically fail for being filed under unlawful grounds.

We weren't talking about the teachers.

Still, good to know.
 
2013-06-14 04:57:46 PM  

Corvus: eraser8: Critics:  the approved curriculum...places too much emphasis on hands-on learning.

Seriously? This is a complaint?

Call me crazy, but I think it's just as important for kids to understand the methods of science as it is for them to understand the body of knowledge that science has developed.

Yes true. But I would say hands on and understanding scientific method are not the same thing. You can do lots of experiments without ever understanding what scientific method is. And you can learn what scientific method is without doing any experiments. It is best probably to do both. Using hands on to learn scientific method..


Yeah, by all means students should have experience with both, but I think the proportion should be somewhere around 90% textbook learning and 10% hands-on learning.  Let's face it, when kids hear "hands-on learning," they think, "a chance to dick around."  Only when you put a book in front of their face and tell them they're going to be tested on the material will they (maybe . . . sometimes . . .) buckle down and learn something.
 
2013-06-14 05:03:15 PM  
So... what's the weather like in Kansas right now?  Any chance of a Godnado hitting Topeka?
 
2013-06-14 05:06:19 PM  

bedtundy: So... what's the weather like in Kansas right now?  Any chance of a Godnado hitting Topeka?


Fingers crossed . . .
 
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