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2013-06-14 11:52:18 AM
He was a brilliant idea thief.
 
2013-06-14 11:55:17 AM
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2013-06-14 12:12:13 PM
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Does not approve
 
2013-06-14 12:13:09 PM
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All of Edison's best ideas were HOT.
 
2013-06-14 12:18:49 PM
I wonder if Edison wasn't the first of the rich mobsters.  He made most of his money from cement and today the concrete business is controlled by the mob in nearly every country in the world.  I think he just took some of those profits and dumped into to R&D&T (Research, development and theft) as many of the people he worked with claimed he stole their ideas and sold them as his own.  When he took control of a technology, he was ruthless about keeping control of it and making sure the competition either went away or paid.
 
2013-06-14 12:34:54 PM

DON.MAC: I wonder if Edison wasn't the first of the rich mobsters.  He made most of his money from cement and today the concrete business is controlled by the mob in nearly every country in the world.  I think he just took some of those profits and dumped into to R&D&T (Research, development and theft) as many of the people he worked with claimed he stole their ideas and sold them as his own.  When he took control of a technology, he was ruthless about keeping control of it and making sure the competition either went away or paid.


He was a scientific Robber Baron.  He was as ruthless as any mobster, to be sure, but wasn't as crude in his
methods.
 
2013-06-14 12:39:24 PM
"his ideas"???
 
2013-06-14 12:43:12 PM
He was brilliant, both as an inventor and probably more-so as a businessman.  Yes, there is evidence that some of his ideas were stolen from others, but he did develop quite a bit on his own, and had the business acumen and ruthless drive necessary to actually get it to market.

Poured concrete houses would be pretty cool.  Here in FL most houses are built from concrete blocks covered in stucco, and it does make for durable homes.  I wonder if poured concrete homes could be done more efficiently today taking advantage of advancements in plastics to create much cheaper molds.
 
2013-06-14 12:43:34 PM
If he was such a genius, why did he live in New Jersey?
 
2013-06-14 12:59:23 PM

TuteTibiImperes: He was brilliant, both as an inventor and probably more-so as a businessman.  Yes, there is evidence that some of his ideas were stolen from others, but he did develop quite a bit on his own, and had the business acumen and ruthless drive necessary to actually get it to market.

Poured concrete houses would be pretty cool.  Here in FL most houses are built from concrete blocks covered in stucco, and it does make for durable homes.  I wonder if poured concrete homes could be done more efficiently today taking advantage of advancements in plastics to create much cheaper molds.


There was a show on the Discovery Channel a while ago that talked about the Edison Concrete homes
mentioned in the article, and though the current owners were overall very satisfied with them, the biggest
downside of them is the difficulty in doing any sort of modifications or, in some cases, even basic
maintenance.
 
2013-06-14 01:26:15 PM
Homes were built from concrete blocks and cement plaster before Edison came along with his single-pour concrete idea.

Radford's Cement Houses, 1909
 
2013-06-14 01:33:02 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Poured concrete houses would be pretty cool. Here in FL most houses are built from concrete blocks covered in stucco, and it does make for durable homes. I wonder if poured concrete homes could be done more efficiently today taking advantage of advancements in plastics to create much cheaper molds.


I helped my friend's brother build a poured concrete house 10 years ago. He was his own contractor and bought the plans from some online outfit.
 
2013-06-14 02:18:45 PM
In Iceland, they have to build for weather, wind, and seismic extremes, so most new construction there is concrete.

You can rent panel parts which are assembled in industry-standard sized sections (with knockouts for windows, doors, etc) and then pour in concrete, and in a matter of days, have a complete exterior done.

Want a different design?  Just assemble the panels in whatever shapes you want.

Pretty cool idea.
 
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2013-06-14 02:22:16 PM
He certainly wasn't a Tesla, no...
 
2013-06-14 02:55:56 PM
F*ck that deaf cocksucker right in the ear.
 
2013-06-14 04:03:16 PM
 
2013-06-14 04:06:56 PM

alaric3: He was a brilliant idea thief.


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2013-06-14 04:17:07 PM
He may have been a genius, but he was also a Templar.

/Tesla FTW
 
2013-06-14 04:21:30 PM
In after Tesla fanboys.
 
2013-06-14 04:27:38 PM
I've always wondered why they don't do more concrete houses in the states.

After surviving close to a dozen Hurricanes in mine, I'd say its probably better than those bundles of firewood they use in tornado alley.
 
2013-06-14 04:37:34 PM
If Tesla was so smart, how come we died in a slum eating wafers and worshiping pigeons?
 
2013-06-14 04:38:35 PM
Edison was a brilliant inventor, AND  a thief

Tesla was a brilliant inventor AND  a paranoid crackpot.

and The Oatmeal can go fark itself.
 
2013-06-14 04:39:05 PM
Seriously.

Tesla's idea that didn't pan out was a friggin' DEATH RAY.

Nice poured concrete house though, Edison. Say hello to Topsy for me.

//Newton FTW
//Alchemy, biatches
 
2013-06-14 04:39:32 PM
I always associated New Jersey with concrete overshoes, not houses.
 
2013-06-14 04:42:16 PM

aintnuttintofarkwith: If Tesla was so smart, how come we died in a slum eating wafers and worshiping pigeons?


I don't know, why did you?
 
2013-06-14 04:43:44 PM
Weren't most of "Edison's ideas" not his ideas but the ideas of the people he hired to come up with ideas?
 
2013-06-14 04:48:17 PM
All the Tesla fanboys remind me of the hipsters who proclaim they've been fans of a band before anyone ever heard of them.
 
2013-06-14 04:50:01 PM
Edison was a CEO, not an inventor. He was extremely good at what he did - hiring people to research and invent stuff, working out what would be profitable to patent and delivering his patents to the market - but he wasn't an inventor.

Lorelle: Homes were built from concrete blocks and cement plaster before Edison came along with his single-pour concrete idea.

Radford's Cement Houses, 1909


It wouldn't be the first idea he ripped off.
 
2013-06-14 04:59:37 PM

Larry Mahnken: aintnuttintofarkwith: If Tesla was so smart, how come we died in a slum eating wafers and worshiping pigeons?

I don't know, why did you?


Fark logic: If your post has typos or incorrect grammar, your argument is null and void.

/not that I was actually "arguing" anything of value to begin with
//**with which to begin**
 
2013-06-14 05:00:12 PM

Target Builder: Edison was a CEO, not an inventor. He was extremely good at what he did - hiring people to research and invent stuff, working out what would be profitable to patent and delivering his patents to the market - but he wasn't an inventor.


Yes he was.  He was an inventor before he became rich,  AND he did hire people to invent things AND he did steal ideas AND he also invented after he became rich.

All of the hipster nerd-rage in the world will not change the fact that real people cannot be summarized into a single term.
 
2013-06-14 05:07:11 PM

way south: I've always wondered why they don't do more concrete houses in the states.

After surviving close to a dozen Hurricanes in mine, I'd say its probably better than those bundles of firewood they use in tornado alley.


Timber is a tough competitor to beat for residential properties - it doesn't require much heavy equipment to work with, it is quick to put up, relatively cheap, you don't have to mess around with adjusting form work or patching/repairing concrete that poured with faults or didn't compact properly, it can be delivered in the lengths you need, you don't have to wait for it to cure, you can erect it in very hot or very cold weather, it doesn't crack, you can easily wire a house or add drains, pipes etc, it does very well in earthquakes (assuming you don't have a terracotta tile roof) and with modern construction techniques can do very well in hurricanes too.

This is not to say that concrete is a bad material - but for it to beat out timber in residential construction (in the US at least) there often needs to be a good reason to use concrete. Tornadoes would be one, and to a lesser extent hurricanes. Earthquakes, probably not - it's very heavy. It's very hard to modify once built - like if you need to relocate a drain or something. Follow on trades (plumbing, HVAC, electrician) need to be well coordinated.
 
2013-06-14 05:11:21 PM
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2013-06-14 05:17:18 PM
Are we going to pretend the CEO of Verizon invented cell phones too?

Slate is so pathetic.
 
2013-06-14 05:18:47 PM
If you're ever in the Doylestown PA area, check out the Mercer Museum. It's a great 6-storey example of a poured-in-place concrete structure.
 
2013-06-14 05:21:47 PM
TuteTibiImperes: He was brilliant, both as an inventor and probably more-so as a businessman.  Yes, there is evidence that some of his ideas were stolen from others, but he did develop quite a bit on his own, and had the business acumen and ruthless drive necessary to actually get it to market.

Amost sounds like an IRL Lex Luthor (maybe less egotistical).

Poured concrete houses would be pretty cool.  Here in FL most houses are built from concrete blocks covered in stucco, and it does make for durable homes.  I wonder if poured concrete homes could be done more efficiently today taking advantage of advancements in plastics to create much cheaper molds.

I have to wonder if a floor-by-floor pouring would be more efficient and practical while maintaining a lot of the benefits of the original concept.
 
2013-06-14 05:23:37 PM

tallguywithglasseson: Seriously.

Tesla's idea that didn't pan out was a friggin' DEATH RAY.

Nice poured concrete house though, Edison. Say hello to Topsy for me.

//Newton FTW
//Alchemy, biatches


Don't some people credit the Tunguska event with his death ray?
 
2013-06-14 05:29:40 PM

Target Builder: Edison was a CEO, not an inventor. He was extremely good at what he did - hiring people to research and invent stuff, working out what would be profitable to patent and delivering his patents to the market - but he wasn't an inventor.


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2013-06-14 05:33:57 PM

The Bird: If you're ever in the Doylestown PA area, check out the Mercer Museum. It's a great 6-storey example of a poured-in-place concrete structure.


I was born there, and lived right across the street from the Mercer Museum. :)
 
2013-06-14 05:39:27 PM
AC/DC RULES!
 
2013-06-14 05:47:37 PM

Psycoholic_Slag: AC/DC RULES!


Tesla ain't bad either.
 
2013-06-14 05:49:25 PM

way south: I've always wondered why they don't do more concrete houses in the states.

After surviving close to a dozen Hurricanes in mine, I'd say its probably better than those bundles of firewood they use in tornado alley.


Yeah, Tornadoes do not give a fark about concrete.

They will pick up a car, they will fling that car into the concrete, then pick up that concrete and fling it all over everywhere.

I would rather be in a concrete house than a wood-frame house during a tornado, all things considered, but there just is no stopping an EF5 tornado short of living underground.

And underground, you just drown as it fills with water.
 
2013-06-14 05:55:16 PM
Fark Thomas Edison AND JP Morgan Chase. I wish Nikola was holding their balls in his hand instead, but he decided to play fair and did so to better the human condition. Unlike Edison and Chase.

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2013-06-14 05:55:43 PM
Personally, I think this is a better idea than poured construction:

formworksbuilding.com
 
2013-06-14 05:55:43 PM

Target Builder: 
Lorelle: Homes were built from concrete blocks and cement plaster before Edison came along with his single-pour concrete idea.

Radford's Cement Houses, 1909

It wouldn't be the first idea he ripped off.


Eapoe6: Are we going to pretend the CEO of Verizon invented cell phones too?

Slate is so pathetic.


No one is saying that Edison invented concrete (hell the Romans used it) or the idea of concrete houses, both had been around long before.

What he developed was basically similar to die-casting or injection-molding an entire house with a single pour.  Think of pouring a foundation, but having a mold set up that allowed it to frame the entire house instead.

Previous, and current, houses made from concrete are typically made from concrete blocks or pre-formed sections that are held together with masonry and then usually covered with some sort of stucco or cement to give the building a smooth cohesive finish.
 
2013-06-14 05:59:47 PM

AddictedToFoobies: Personally, I think this is a better idea than poured construction:

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There is a lot of innovation left in concrete and cement as building materials.

These would be very neat for disaster area temporary housing.
 
2013-06-14 05:59:59 PM

Three Crooked Squirrels: All the Tesla fanboys remind me of the hipsters who proclaim they've been fans of a band before anyone ever heard of them.


Nikola Tesla is pretty famous. Like, High School science class famous.

//I'd tell you who my favorite inventor is but you've probably never heard of him
//he's pretty obscure
 
2013-06-14 06:09:24 PM
They could use this in Oklahoma.

I saw a house being built in Highland Park, Texas that had reenforced poured concrete walls and roof. After it was finished it looked quite conventional. The only clue that it was different was that it was equipped with retractable steel shutters. I expect that it could take a direct hit from an EF5 tornado with no problems.
 
2013-06-14 06:13:16 PM

TuteTibiImperes: Target Builder: 
Lorelle: Homes were built from concrete blocks and cement plaster before Edison came along with his single-pour concrete idea.

Radford's Cement Houses, 1909

It wouldn't be the first idea he ripped off.

Eapoe6: Are we going to pretend the CEO of Verizon invented cell phones too?

Slate is so pathetic.

No one is saying that Edison invented concrete (hell the Romans used it) or the idea of concrete houses, both had been around long before.

What he developed was basically similar to die-casting or injection-molding an entire house with a single pour.  Think of pouring a foundation, but having a mold set up that allowed it to frame the entire house instead.

Previous, and current, houses made from concrete are typically made from concrete blocks or pre-formed sections that are held together with masonry and then usually covered with some sort of stucco or cement to give the building a smooth cohesive finish.



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2013-06-14 06:16:17 PM
A unified poured house is a great idea....

....until you have to repair or modify the damn thing.
 
2013-06-14 06:25:22 PM

InternetSecurityGuard: They could use this in Oklahoma.

I saw a house being built in Highland Park, Texas that had reenforced poured concrete walls and roof. After it was finished it looked quite conventional. The only clue that it was different was that it was equipped with retractable steel shutters. I expect that it could take a direct hit from an EF5 tornado with no problems.


I remember seeing a report on the news years ago about builders in Florida trying the same thing. Concrete houses with steel storm shutters. They also made the roof different so the wind couldnt get underneath it and have it fly away.
 
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