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2013-06-14 02:27:53 PM  

TerminalEchoes: Libertarianism will never work because most people are either too lazy or too stupid to look after themselves. I could actually say the same thing about democracy.


Well that and it only takes one asshole who tries to take advantage of the system to ruin it for the rest of us.

But if you want to pretend to feel superior to others, be my guest.
 
2013-06-14 02:27:55 PM  

flucto: Screw Libertarians with their card catalogs and always shushing everyone and never having the book you want.


twittech.files.wordpress.com
Approves
 
2013-06-14 02:28:03 PM  
MOSSY ROCK COVERED THREE HANDLED FAMILY CAVEDUNZA
 
2013-06-14 02:28:13 PM  
MCTHFG

/Hard Core
 
2013-06-14 02:28:24 PM  

Kittypie070: MAUG SURPRISED THAT HAMMERTOE MAKE SENSIBLE CAVE ETCHING. HAMMERTOE NOT KNOWN BY MAUG TO DO SO.

MAUG WILL RESPOND RESPECTFULLY TO HAMMERTOE ETCHING, AS HAMMERTOE MERITS THIS.

MAUG HAPPY TOWARD HAMMERTOE.

*ahem*

MAUG NOT WANT ARISTOCRACY. MAUG WOULD BITE AND CLAW IT. THEN BEAT IT WITH CLUB.

ARISTOCRACY WITH MEGA-ASSLOADS OF SHINY ROCKS THINK THEY ARE SKY MAN, MERELY BECAUSE THEY HAVE MEGA-ASSLOADS OF SHINY ROCKS.

THEY WRONG.

MAUG ALREADY HAS FUN COLLECTION OF SKY MAN TO PLAY WITH, DOES NOT NEED ANY MORE OF THEM.

MAUG NOT MIND BUREAUCRACY MUCH, AT LEAST BUREAUCRACY NOT OVERLY PRONE TO SKY MAN DELUSIONS.


MAUG HAS BETTER CAVEWOMAN NAME THAN EEA. EEA JEALOUS.

MAUG ALSO HAS POINT ABOUT ARISTOCRACY. BEAT AND CLAW, THEN USE SHINY ROCKS FOR BETTER THINGS.
 
2013-06-14 02:28:33 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: MOSSY ROCK COVERED THREE HANDLED FAMILY CAVEDUNZA


DAMN YOU!
 
2013-06-14 02:29:14 PM  

verbaltoxin: mrshowrules: is an ideal of the greedy and self serving suggesting that left to their own, people will look after each other

Well they would, because most people would group together socially and form an organization. That organization would then pick leaders, and those leaders would come up with some form of charter, so everyone has the same rules. Then they'd pick people to argue over and interpret those rules, and form another group to decide new rules as necessary for unforseen issues. Eventually, each group's organization would decide it's better if multiple groups create one, larger overseeing body so that multiple groups have the same rules and can resolve disputes between each other.


You realize that's the system we have now, right?
 
2013-06-14 02:29:18 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: MOSSY ROCK COVERED THREE HANDLED FAMILY CAVEDUNZA


HE HARDCORE! HE HARDCORE!
 
2013-06-14 02:29:20 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: MOSSY ROCK COVERED THREE HANDLED FAMILY CAVEDUNZA


<<shakes tiny fist
/missed by that much
 
2013-06-14 02:29:29 PM  
Libertarianism is not anarchy, nor even close to it. Sure there's anarcho-libertarianism, a form of libertarianism but they are not the majority. Libertarianism in and of it self does not want to abolish government; it wants to streamline it and prune the branches.

/You guys are sure acting like the open-minded people you claim to be.
//Smug assholes.
///Don't want to live on this planet anymore.
 
2013-06-14 02:30:04 PM  

Ishkur: Holy shiat, 1000 posts.

What's going on in this thread?

/makes coffee


for once a pol tab thread has gone to hell.  In the bestest possibles of ways.

It's made my afternoon much more enjoyable.

/It's almost like even we here on the pol tab can't take any more derp this week
 
2013-06-14 02:30:21 PM  

hinten: Liberterianism would work just fine if everyone just followed the rules.


You mean like Smokey?

www.delawareonline.com
 
2013-06-14 02:30:33 PM  

timujin: verbaltoxin: mrshowrules: is an ideal of the greedy and self serving suggesting that left to their own, people will look after each other

Well they would, because most people would group together socially and form an organization. That organization would then pick leaders, and those leaders would come up with some form of charter, so everyone has the same rules. Then they'd pick people to argue over and interpret those rules, and form another group to decide new rules as necessary for unforseen issues. Eventually, each group's organization would decide it's better if multiple groups create one, larger overseeing body so that multiple groups have the same rules and can resolve disputes between each other.

You realize that's the system we have now, right?


YOU NO READ GOOD, GO BASH YOUR OWN HEAD WITH OWN ROCK, MY ROCK TOO GOOD FOR YOUR HEAD
 
2013-06-14 02:30:37 PM  

SordidEuphemism: [i.imgur.com image 286x400]

GRUNG THERE, LITTLE-GRUNG


BEN GAZE WEAR BADGE FILL PRIDE
 
2013-06-14 02:30:47 PM  

Drew: Holy crap a good thread from the politics tab?  Must be national bourbon day


Don't you dare complain about the content of the Politics tab when you're the piece of shiat who is responsible for creating both the content and the political slant of the drivel found there.


Your website is dying. I couldn't be happier about that. (When articles have less than 50 - 100 comments on them, and most of those are from the same users, it's dead)


/RIP Digg FARK
 
2013-06-14 02:30:58 PM  

FuzedBox: Libertarianism in and of it self does not want to abolish government; it wants to streamline it and prune the branches.


If you want to expand and provide details to these terribly vague and pretty words, then be my guest.
 
2013-06-14 02:31:26 PM  

Crude: Drew: Holy crap a good thread from the politics tab?  Must be national bourbon day

Don't you dare complain about the content of the Politics tab when you're the piece of shiat who is responsible for creating both the content and the political slant of the drivel found there.


Your website is dying. I couldn't be happier about that. (When articles have less than 50 - 100 comments on them, and most of those are from the same users, it's dead)


/RIP Digg FARK


4/10. Saturn vs. Mop was better.
 
2013-06-14 02:31:41 PM  
bighugelabs.com
 
2013-06-14 02:31:41 PM  
ME GET IT, CHIEF AM NEAR
 
2013-06-14 02:31:47 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: MOSSY ROCK COVERED THREE HANDLED FAMILY CAVEDUNZA


ME NEW HARDCORE CHAMP.  ME TOUT IT OUT WITH WWE TABLET APP


/lulz
 
2013-06-14 02:31:50 PM  

Crude: Drew: Holy crap a good thread from the politics tab?  Must be national bourbon day

Don't you dare complain about the content of the Politics tab when you're the piece of shiat who is responsible for creating both the content and the political slant of the drivel found there.


Your website is dying. I couldn't be happier about that. (When articles have less than 50 - 100 comments on them, and most of those are from the same users, it's dead)


/RIP Digg FARK


And yet you're commenting on here.
 
2013-06-14 02:31:50 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: MOSSY ROCK COVERED THREE HANDLED FAMILY CAVEDUNZA


*CHUCKLE*
 
2013-06-14 02:32:43 PM  
Not so much an ideal as a mental defect.
Objectivism is autism expressed as an existential philosophy.
Libertarianism is autism expressed as a political philosophy.
 
2013-06-14 02:32:55 PM  

Crude: Drew: Holy crap a good thread from the politics tab?  Must be national bourbon day

Don't you dare complain about the content of the Politics tab when you're the piece of shiat who is responsible for creating both the content and the political slant of the drivel found there.


Your website is dying. I couldn't be happier about that. (When articles have less than 50 - 100 comments on them, and most of those are from the same users, it's dead)


/RIP Digg FARK


HI ALEXIS HOW CAVEDDIT WORKING FOR YOU? NO ONE DO STORY ABOUT DROO HAVING NAKED KIDS ON FARKSTONE.
 
2013-06-14 02:33:24 PM  

FuzedBox: Libertarianism is not anarchy, nor even close to it. Sure there's anarcho-libertarianism, a form of libertarianism but they are not the majority. Libertarianism in and of it self does not want to abolish government; it wants to streamline it and prune the branches.

/You guys are sure acting like the open-minded people you claim to be.
//Smug assholes.
///Don't want to live on this planet anymore.


As I said, there is nothing funnier than seeing a Libertarian react to the world giving their theory the intellectual respect it deserves. It's fully as idealistic and unfounded in the realities of nature as Marxism is, as someone else noted in the serious fraction of this thread.
 
2013-06-14 02:33:33 PM  
i105.photobucket.com
In just over 5 hours.  Impressive.
 
2013-06-14 02:34:05 PM  
Libertarians are just Republicans who are too embarrassed to admit they voted for Bush.
 
2013-06-14 02:34:07 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: MOSSY ROCK COVERED THREE HANDLED FAMILY CAVEDUNZA


MODIFIED WOODEN TOILET PAPER ROLLER

/wait, what?
 
2013-06-14 02:34:07 PM  
i970.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-14 02:34:23 PM  

FuzedBox: Libertarianism is not anarchy, nor even close to it. Sure there's anarcho-libertarianism, a form of libertarianism but they are not the majority. Libertarianism in and of it self does not want to abolish government; it wants to streamline it and prune the branches.


But let's face it.  Libertarianism is a terrible idea.  All it does is transfer power and resources to people with the most power and resources.  Without governmental regulation and enforcement, there's no way an individual has any ability to move up in the world except by the grace of the people already in charge.
 
2013-06-14 02:34:48 PM  

theknuckler_33: Grand_Moff_Joseph: MOSSY ROCK COVERED THREE HANDLED FAMILY CAVEDUNZA

MODIFIED WOODEN TOILET PAPER ROLLERHOLDER

/wait, what?


dammit
 
2013-06-14 02:34:50 PM  
heap: Boobies  Break!

1.bp.blogspot.com

MOOG HAVE CROMULENT BOONER RIGHT NOW
 
2013-06-14 02:35:24 PM  

SRFireside: Aarontology: kronicfeld: The libertarian idea is the only truly new political idea in the last couple thousand years.

Lolwut

OOK NOT BELIEVE IN BIG STATIST CAVE. OOK BELIEVE IN INDIVIDUAL CAVEMAN LIBERTY.

Best... threadjack... EVER!!!


NO THREADJACK. DISCUSS GOLDROCK IDEA ON GOLDROCK LEVEL.
 
2013-06-14 02:35:38 PM  
.....BUT WE ARE NOT ROCKS!!


(from VERY old SNL/cavemen sketch)


Also.
Libertarians believe in ALL the same practical things everybody else does. (food safety, public services like fire dept. and EMT etc., any-all things that the government provides)
....they just simply believe ALL these things can be done better and more efficiently by the private sector.

All the dumb "what does a libertarian do when his house catches fire?" is kinda stupid.
 
2013-06-14 02:36:28 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: MOSSY ROCK COVERED THREE HANDLED FAMILY CAVEDUNZA


keyboard.  owe.  you know the drill.

:)
 
2013-06-14 02:36:31 PM  

Crude: Drew: Holy crap a good thread from the politics tab?  Must be national bourbon day

Don't you dare complain about the content of the Politics tab when you're the piece of shiat who is responsible for creating both the content and the political slant of the drivel found there.


Your website is dying. I couldn't be happier about that. (When articles have less than 50 - 100 comments on them, and most of those are from the same users, it's dead)


/RIP Digg FARK


If you're happy to see this place 'dying', why are you still here?  Why post anything at all, since any post only keeps the site alive.
 
2013-06-14 02:36:49 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Grand_Moff_Joseph: MOSSY ROCK COVERED THREE HANDLED FAMILY CAVEDUNZA

ME NEW HARDCORE CHAMP.  ME TOUT IT OUT WITH WWE TABLET APP


/lulz


<ROCKSHOT to Head>
You're Welcome!!
 
2013-06-14 02:37:30 PM  

Crude: Your website is dying. I couldn't be happier about that. (When articles have less than 50 - 100 comments on them, and most of those are from the same users, it's dead)


... and I should know! I spend all day reading the articles, counting the number of posts and analyzing their content! Since 2007!
 
2013-06-14 02:38:42 PM  

mdeesnuts: heap: Boobies  Break!

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 338x450]

MOOG HAVE CROMULENT BOONER RIGHT NOW


SMILODON WATCHING YOU RUB CLUB FROM TOP OF CAVE.
 
2013-06-14 02:38:42 PM  

craigdamage: .....BUT WE ARE NOT ROCKS!!


(from VERY old SNL/cavemen sketch)


Also.
Libertarians believe in ALL the same practical things everybody else does. (food safety, public services like fire dept. and EMT etc., any-all things that the government provides)
....they just simply believe ALL these things can be done better and more efficiently by the private sector.

All the dumb "what does a libertarian do when his house catches fire?" is kinda stupid.


Yes but it does show how libertarians don't know how markets work.
 
2013-06-14 02:39:21 PM  

Crude: Drew: Holy crap a good thread from the politics tab?  Must be national bourbon day

Don't you dare complain about the content of the Politics tab when you're the piece of shiat who is responsible for creating both the content and the political slant of the drivel found there.


Your website is dying. I couldn't be happier about that. (When articles have less than 50 - 100 comments on them, and most of those are from the same users, it's dead)


/RIP Digg FARK


needs moar cowbell
 
2013-06-14 02:40:00 PM  
May I just say that this will be my only post in this thread.
 
2013-06-14 02:40:23 PM  

WinoRhino: Crude: Your website is dying. I couldn't be happier about that. (When articles have less than 50 - 100 comments on them, and most of those are from the same users, it's dead)

... and I should know! I spend all day reading the articles, counting the number of posts and analyzing their content! Since 2007!


Jesus, I didn't even catch that.

I've been on Fark for a little longer than he has (discovered it in March 2007) and I really can't tell a noticeable difference between Fark in 2007 and Fark today.

I think he's just being a drama queen just for the sake of being a drama queen.
 
2013-06-14 02:41:07 PM  

Crude: Drew: Holy crap a good thread from the politics tab?  Must be national bourbon day

Don't you dare complain about the content of the Politics tab when you're the piece of shiat who is responsible for creating both the content and the political slant of the drivel found there.


Your website is dying. I couldn't be happier about that. (When articles have less than 50 - 100 comments on them, and most of those are from the same users, it's dead)


/RIP Digg FARK


GREK VOTED GENEVIEVE MARIE FOR MODMIN
 
2013-06-14 02:41:15 PM  
UG WANT TO STAY AND WRITE ON WALL LONGER, BUT UG MUST BE AT GYM IN 26 MINUTES.
 
2013-06-14 02:41:21 PM  

bglove25: SRFireside: Aarontology: kronicfeld: The libertarian idea is the only truly new political idea in the last couple thousand years.

Lolwut

OOK NOT BELIEVE IN BIG STATIST CAVE. OOK BELIEVE IN INDIVIDUAL CAVEMAN LIBERTY.

Best... threadjack... EVER!!!

NO THREADJACK. DISCUSS GOLDROCK IDEA ON GOLDROCK LEVEL.


DISCUSS CUBIC CREATION IDEA TO AVOID EVIL SINGULARITY


 
2013-06-14 02:42:14 PM  

craigdamage: .....BUT WE ARE NOT ROCKS!!


(from VERY old SNL/cavemen sketch)


Also.
Libertarians believe in ALL the same practical things everybody else does. (food safety, public services like fire dept. and EMT etc., any-all things that the government provides)
....they just simply believe ALL these things can be done better and more efficiently by the private sector.

All the dumb "what does a libertarian do when his house catches fire?" is kinda stupid.


So you're saying that Libertarians prefer a couple of guys who come through your business every now and then to collect "protection money" over paying taxes and having police a phone call away? Is that right?
 
2013-06-14 02:42:24 PM  

Mercutio74: FuzedBox: Libertarianism is not anarchy, nor even close to it. Sure there's anarcho-libertarianism, a form of libertarianism but they are not the majority. Libertarianism in and of it self does not want to abolish government; it wants to streamline it and prune the branches.

But let's face it.  Libertarianism is a terrible idea.  All it does is transfer power and resources to people with the most power and resources.  Without governmental regulation and enforcement, there's no way an individual has any ability to move up in the world except by the grace of the people already in charge.


But let's face it.  Statism is a terrible idea.  All it does is transfer power and resources to people with the most power and resources.  Without governmental regulation and enforcement, the rich and powerful have no ability to crush all the possible competition in the world.
 
2013-06-14 02:42:28 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Libertarianism isn't even an ideal.  It's a fantasy world, populated by raw milk fanatics who want to pay for everything in gold bars, and career college kids who just want free weed.


I'm just popping in to say that this is my favorite quote of the thread. I'll leave the rest of you to your rock-throwing.
 
2013-06-14 02:42:44 PM  

bigpete53: GREK VOTED GENEVIEVE MARIE FOR MODMIN


GRUUNK NO WANT ROCKINISM IN THREAD

Satan's Bunny Slippers: needs moar rockbell


GRUUNK FIX FOR YOU
 
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