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2013-06-14 08:45:05 AM
God, we are a stupid and short minded country.
 
2013-06-14 08:54:04 AM

simplicimus: God, we are a stupid and short minded country.


Just like Dubya. No wonder he was nearly elected twice.
 
2013-06-14 09:15:45 AM

Kyosuke: simplicimus: God, we are a stupid and short minded country.

Just like Dubya. No wonder he was nearly elected twice.


Once.
 
2013-06-14 09:28:47 AM

simplicimus: God, we are a stupid and short minded country.


Which explains Carter's popularity these days.
 
2013-06-14 09:38:01 AM
Who?
 
2013-06-14 09:38:23 AM
i970.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-14 09:41:04 AM

minoridiot: simplicimus: God, we are a stupid and short minded country.

Which explains Carter's popularity these days.


I would posit that Carter is popular because of his post-presidential humanitarian work rather than his actual presidency.
 
2013-06-14 09:43:21 AM
All those surveillance programs started under his watch.  History will not see that favorably at all.
 
2013-06-14 09:53:08 AM

simplicimus: minoridiot: simplicimus: God, we are a stupid and short minded country.

Which explains Carter's popularity these days.

I would posit that Carter is popular because of his post-presidential humanitarian work rather than his actual presidency.


Perhaps, but I think it's only fitting that W should be remembered for what he was best at:

graphics8.nytimes.com

I feel like a statue of this picture needs to be made, in honor of this great man.

/and then pissed on
 
2013-06-14 09:56:19 AM

bdub77: simplicimus: minoridiot: simplicimus: God, we are a stupid and short minded country.

Which explains Carter's popularity these days.

I would posit that Carter is popular because of his post-presidential humanitarian work rather than his actual presidency.

Perhaps, but I think it's only fitting that W should be remembered for what he was best at:

[graphics8.nytimes.com image 190x257]

I feel like a statue of this picture needs to be made, in honor of this great man.

/and then pissed on


What, clearing out the surplus?
 
2013-06-14 10:12:15 AM
Why is this a big surprise? Everyone remembers Ronald Reagan as some great patriotic hero and he sold arms to the Mullahs in Iran.
 
2013-06-14 10:20:00 AM
part of it, i think, is that the republican party is so far right now - so comically evil - that even bush seems decent by comparison.
 
2013-06-14 10:21:53 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-14 10:22:06 AM

FlashHarry: part of it, i think, is that the republican party is so far right now - so comically evil - that even bush seems decent by comparison.


Yup. Pretty much the same thing happened with Bill O'Reilly. Once Glenn Beck hit the scene, he started to sound halfway reasonable.
 
2013-06-14 10:22:41 AM

JerseyTim: Why is this a big surprise? Everyone remembers Ronald Reagan as some great patriotic hero and he sold arms to the Mullahs in Iran.


Worse, he RAISED TAXES.
 
2013-06-14 10:22:43 AM
What is Dubya's stance on rape? This is important.
 
2013-06-14 10:23:43 AM
"Now, Gallup has released a survey showing that for the first time since 2005, more people approve than disapprove of Bush."

Goldfish poll.
 
2013-06-14 10:24:32 AM
It is on the mend, because Fox News and the GOP have convinced retards that the Bongocalypse is upon us and that times were gentler and friendlier under George W. Bush, which is partly true, because the only things the Democrats levied against him were ACTUAL f*ckups and scandals and not diarrhea scandals spawned by cigar-filled back room discussions between Roger AIles and Karl Rove since 1/20/09.
 
2013-06-14 10:26:03 AM

simplicimus: minoridiot: simplicimus: God, we are a stupid and short minded country.

Which explains Carter's popularity these days.

I would posit that Carter is popular because of his post-presidential humanitarian work rather than his actual presidency.


I would say it's because of the resurgence in microbreweries: Link
 
2013-06-14 10:26:11 AM

JerseyTim: Why is this a big surprise? Everyone remembers Ronald Reagan as some great patriotic hero and he sold arms to the Mullahs in Iran.


I have noticed that your Republicans fuel much of this lionization of their past candidates and demonization of the Democrats by simply being very shouty and jingoistic, much like the Adolf Hitler or other fascists.
 
2013-06-14 10:26:23 AM
Obama loyalists have come to appreciate Bush. At least they mention him often.
 
2013-06-14 10:26:51 AM

SlothB77: All those surveillance programs started under his watch.  History will not see that favorably at all.


Dafuq?  Am I supposed to agree with you now?
 
2013-06-14 10:29:34 AM

Cletus C.: Obama loyalists have come to appreciate Bush. At least they mention him often.


This post brought to you by the forthcoming bestselling non-fiction tour de force "Cletus C's The Actions of Assholes Have No Repercussions: Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying And Love The Hypothesis That Cause and Effect Are Limited to 15 minutes After Said Asshole Leaves Office."

//i think the subtitle might need paring down though, Cletus
 
2013-06-14 10:29:51 AM
Wake me when his own party starts inviting him to their convention.

/said it before, but bears repeating
 
2013-06-14 10:30:43 AM

minoridiot: simplicimus: God, we are a stupid and short minded country.

Which explains Carter's popularity these days.


The right has a really unhealthy hatred towards Carter. I don't know if it's because he didn't get us into enough wars or because he had a degree in nuclear physics instead of a law or business degree from the school daddy got him into. Pacifist egghead elitist.
 
2013-06-14 10:32:37 AM

Yakk: Wake me when his own party starts inviting him to their convention.

/said it before, but bears repeating


If they can invite Wolfowitz, Addington and Meese to ask questions at their Heritage Foundation presidential debate, they'll invite Dubya real soon.
 
2013-06-14 10:35:50 AM

coeyagi: Cletus C.: Obama loyalists have come to appreciate Bush. At least they mention him often.

This post brought to you by the forthcoming bestselling non-fiction tour de force "Cletus C's The Actions of Assholes Have No Repercussions: Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying And Love The Hypothesis That Cause and Effect Are Limited to 15 minutes After Said Asshole Leaves Office."

//i think the subtitle might need paring down though, Cletus


No, it was perfect. Keep up the good work.
 
2013-06-14 10:39:11 AM
Posted in wrong thread so here it is again:


Try this again:

1 Franklin D. Roosevelt
2 Theodore Roosevelt
3 Abraham Lincoln
4 George Washington
5 Thomas Jefferson
6 James Madison
7 James Monroe
8 Woodrow Wilson
9 Harry Truman
10 Dwight D. Eisenhower
11 John F. Kennedy
12 James K. Polk
13 Bill Clinton
14 Andrew Jackson
15 Barack Obama
16 Lyndon B. Johnson
17 John Adams
18 Ronald Reagan
19 John Quincy Adams
20 Grover Cleveland
21 William McKinley
22 George H. W. Bush
23 Martin Van Buren
24 William Howard Taft
25 Chester A. Arthur
26 Ulysses S. Grant
27 James A. Garfield
28 Gerald Ford
29 Calvin Coolidge
30 Richard Nixon
31 Rutherford B. Hayes
32 Jimmy Carter
33 Zachary Taylor
34 Benjamin Harrison
35 William Henry Harrison
36 Herbert Hoover
37 John Tyler
38 Millard Fillmore
39 George W. Bush
40 Franklin Pierce
41 Warren G. Harding
42 James Buchanan
43 Andrew Johnson
 
2013-06-14 10:42:41 AM
The "George W. Bush's Reputation Is Being Rehabilitated!" narrative has to start before his reputation is actually rehabilitated.  This has to be done before 2016, to implant the notion GOP Presidents aren't giant piles of shiat.
 
2013-06-14 10:45:49 AM

Mugato: minoridiot: simplicimus: God, we are a stupid and short minded country.

Which explains Carter's popularity these days.

The right has a really unhealthy hatred towards Carter. I don't know if it's because he didn't get us into enough wars or because he had a degree in nuclear physics instead of a law or business degree from the school daddy got him into. Pacifist egghead elitist.


Yeah, from what I know it seems like Carter was the best President the US has had for the at least the last five decades, he just had the bad fortune to be President when a few things he had no significant control of happened (oil price spike, inflation, etc.) and was a victim of the traitor Reagan doing a deal with terrorist enemies of the US for his own personal/political advantage by making Carter look bad.
 
2013-06-14 10:47:47 AM
The Methodist church may never recover, given it's "First, Do No Harm" motto. Yes, the same one doctors have.

For Southern Methodist University to house that library is like finding out your church lady spinster aunt was really running a brothel and not one of the better brothels at that.
 
2013-06-14 10:48:31 AM

coeyagi: SlothB77: All those surveillance programs started under his watch.  History will not see that favorably at all.

Dafuq?  Am I supposed to agree with you now?


Give him a break, that post was made at just past 9:30am, he was probably on the wrong account.
 
2013-06-14 10:49:26 AM

mrshowrules: Posted in wrong thread so here it is again:


Try this again:

1 Franklin D. Roosevelt
2 Theodore Roosevelt
3 Abraham Lincoln
4 George Washington
5 Thomas Jefferson
6 James Madison
7 James Monroe
8 Woodrow Wilson
9 Harry Truman
10 Dwight D. Eisenhower
11 John F. Kennedy
12 James K. Polk
13 Bill Clinton
14 Andrew Jackson
15 Barack Obama
16 Lyndon B. Johnson
17 John Adams
18 Ronald Reagan
19 John Quincy Adams
20 Grover Cleveland
21 William McKinley
22 George H. W. Bush
23 Martin Van Buren
24 William Howard Taft
25 Chester A. Arthur
26 Ulysses S. Grant
27 James A. Garfield
28 Gerald Ford
29 Calvin Coolidge
30 Richard Nixon
31 Rutherford B. Hayes
32 Jimmy Carter
33 Zachary Taylor
34 Benjamin Harrison
35 William Henry Harrison
36 Herbert Hoover
37 John Tyler
38 Millard Fillmore
39 George W. Bush
40 Franklin Pierce
41 Warren G. Harding
42 James Buchanan
43 Andrew Johnson


Reading that, I'm reminded how we've had many mediocre and sh*tty Presidents. No wonder people can hardly name more than five of them.
 
2013-06-14 10:49:55 AM

TheShavingofOccam123: What is Dubya's stance on rape? This is important.


www.rawstory.com
 
2013-06-14 10:57:39 AM

Mugato: minoridiot: simplicimus: God, we are a stupid and short minded country.

Which explains Carter's popularity these days.

The right has a really unhealthy hatred towards Carter. I don't know if it's because he didn't get us into enough wars or because he had a degree in nuclear physics instead of a law or business degree from the school daddy got him into. Pacifist egghead elitist.


Strange thing is, it goes back a ways.  In the mid-80s I was told by an older lady that Carter was elected to the presidency via a pact with Satan, as there was no way he should have been able to win otherwise.  She was a friend and I was pretty young, so I didn't put the screws to her for details on why the governor of a large southern state wouldn't have been able to win the presidency legitimately or why Satan would be involved.  In the years since, I've come to the conclusion that she might have been a (generally pleasantly) crazy person, but that's beside the point.

Personally, I think it's Carter's Mister Rogers-like tendencies that cause such a visceral reaction in the bloodthirsty and selfish among us, because he talked about sissy things like peace and modest shared sacrifices.  Now, why the bloodthirsty and selfish seem to drift toward the Republican Libertarian Republican party is a separate question, although I'm sure it's just an unfortunate coincidence.
 
2013-06-14 11:04:44 AM
Since Jeb is saying nice warm fuzzy things about Hispanic folk today, I am guessing he also believes, and is looking at 2016.  Oy.
 
2013-06-14 11:05:29 AM

verbaltoxin: mrshowrules: Posted in wrong thread so here it is again:


Try this again:

1 Franklin D. Roosevelt
2 Theodore Roosevelt
3 Abraham Lincoln
4 George Washington
5 Thomas Jefferson
6 James Madison
7 James Monroe
8 Woodrow Wilson
9 Harry Truman
10 Dwight D. Eisenhower
11 John F. Kennedy
12 James K. Polk
13 Bill Clinton
14 Andrew Jackson
15 Barack Obama
16 Lyndon B. Johnson
17 John Adams
18 Ronald Reagan
19 John Quincy Adams
20 Grover Cleveland
21 William McKinley
22 George H. W. Bush
23 Martin Van Buren
24 William Howard Taft
25 Chester A. Arthur
26 Ulysses S. Grant
27 James A. Garfield
28 Gerald Ford
29 Calvin Coolidge
30 Richard Nixon
31 Rutherford B. Hayes
32 Jimmy Carter
33 Zachary Taylor
34 Benjamin Harrison
35 William Henry Harrison
36 Herbert Hoover
37 John Tyler
38 Millard Fillmore
39 George W. Bush
40 Franklin Pierce
41 Warren G. Harding
42 James Buchanan
43 Andrew Johnson

Reading that, I'm reminded how we've had many mediocre and sh*tty Presidents. No wonder people can hardly name more than five of them.


William Henry Harrison should be way higher than 35th... he made one speech, died in 30 days, and did virtually no damage to the country in his time as President.
 
2013-06-14 11:06:47 AM

verbaltoxin: Reading that, I'm reminded how we've had many mediocre and sh*tty Presidents. No wonder people can hardly name more than five of them.


People have accused me of thinking Obama as being the supreme master of the universe.  In reality, I've always considered Obama as the baseline of what Americans should expect as a President, not the pinnacle.  The real tragedy is how many Presidents fall short of even the minimal benchmark set by someone like Obama, Clinton or Kennedy.
 
2013-06-14 11:08:06 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: [i.imgur.com image 850x315]


That last graph shows why Carter is so hated by a lot of people. Jobs and growth were doing pretty good, but inflation was too high.

/Personally, I don't like him because he gave lip service to human rights, but supported murderous dictators like the Shah of Iran.
 
2013-06-14 11:13:24 AM

mrshowrules: verbaltoxin: Reading that, I'm reminded how we've had many mediocre and sh*tty Presidents. No wonder people can hardly name more than five of them.

People have accused me of thinking Obama as being the supreme master of the universe.  In reality, I've always considered Obama as the baseline of what Americans should expect as a President, not the pinnacle.  The real tragedy is how many Presidents fall short of even the minimal benchmark set by someone like Obama, Clinton or Kennedy.


I think Calvin Coolidge should set the baseline, because Coolidge's administration sets the bar for just being there, and not trying to f*ck things up.

/Doesn't blame Coolidge for the stock market crash.
//That was a long-term systemic thing bound to fail hard.
 
2013-06-14 11:17:53 AM

Lochsteppe: Strange thing is, it goes back a ways.  In the mid-80s I was told by an older lady that Carter was elected to the presidency via a pact with Satan, as there was no way he should have been able to win otherwise.  She was a friend and I was pretty young, so I didn't put the screws to her for details on why the governor of a large southern state wouldn't have been able to win the presidency legitimately or why Satan would be involved


Satan gets blamed for a lot of shiat.
 
2013-06-14 11:21:27 AM

Mugato: Lochsteppe: Strange thing is, it goes back a ways.  In the mid-80s I was told by an older lady that Carter was elected to the presidency via a pact with Satan, as there was no way he should have been able to win otherwise.  She was a friend and I was pretty young, so I didn't put the screws to her for details on why the governor of a large southern state wouldn't have been able to win the presidency legitimately or why Satan would be involved

Satan gets blamed for a lot of shiat.


Get a woman to eat ONE apple and the whole world gives you sh*t for eternity.
 
2013-06-14 11:26:05 AM

verbaltoxin: Mugato: Lochsteppe: Strange thing is, it goes back a ways.  In the mid-80s I was told by an older lady that Carter was elected to the presidency via a pact with Satan, as there was no way he should have been able to win otherwise.  She was a friend and I was pretty young, so I didn't put the screws to her for details on why the governor of a large southern state wouldn't have been able to win the presidency legitimately or why Satan would be involved

Satan gets blamed for a lot of shiat.

Get a woman to eat ONE apple and the whole world gives you sh*t for eternity.


Things just don't seem to work out for light bringers.
 
2013-06-14 11:26:14 AM
The most effective part of this rehabilitation effort will be when the Texas School Board dictates how history books describe George Jr's legacy. The first page of the chapter will be a photo of an Iraqi child eating a Big Mac on a playground that used to be the site of a Saddam rape room. Ya see kids, before 'Merica liberated Iraq, they had these rape rooms on every street corner.
 
2013-06-14 11:36:33 AM

otherginger: Since Jeb is saying nice warm fuzzy things about Hispanic folk today, I am guessing he also believes, and is looking at 2016.  Oy.


i367.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-14 11:39:52 AM
cdn0.sbnation.com

It's clear he's thinking of others and all the destruction he caused.
he will probably become a philanthropist.
 
2013-06-14 11:42:32 AM
Having lived through those times, I think the biggest thing that hurt Carter's legacy was how he became president initially. We had just lost the Vietnam war, and Ford, a Washington insider, had disgracefully pardoned Nixon. The economy was in a recession, OPEC was waging economic war on the US which resulted in gas lines and every day another tale of corruption was coming out of Washington (same as it ever was). Along comes Carter, an outsider to Washington DC insider politics, and he portrays himself as the man "who was going to clean up that mess in Washington". During his time in office, all the insiders, on both sides, did everything that they could to trip him up. And the press focused on his idiot beer drinking brother, who either wouldn't or couldn't guard his tongue. Then once he was one and done, these same Washington insiders have continued mocking him. The republicans because it's their job to make the democrats look like fools, and the democrats because he was never actually one of them, he was just a guy who happened to occupy the White House for awhile.
 
2013-06-14 11:43:41 AM
upload.wikimedia.org

This is the legacy in my head
 
2013-06-14 12:13:38 PM

Hobodeluxe: [cdn0.sbnation.com image 640x410]

It's clear he's thinking of others and all the destruction he caused.
he will probably become a philanthropist.


www.alternet.org
 
2013-06-14 12:23:10 PM

thurstonxhowell: FlashHarry: part of it, i think, is that the republican party is so far right now - so comically evil - that even bush seems decent by comparison.

Yup. Pretty much the same thing happened with Bill O'Reilly. Once Glenn Beck hit the scene, he started to sound halfway reasonable.


^ he looks great by comparison....
 
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