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(The Weekly Standard)   Not only does 0bama have the temerity to be Presidentin' while black, but now he's going to be the first president to ever take a vacation. WHAR IMPEACHMENT ARTICLES, WHAR?   (m.weeklystandard.com) divider line 100
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2013-06-14 10:37:34 AM

OHDUDENESS: Why this obsession with always stating his color of skin? It makes any argument you have that whatever he's doing is right seem weak., like if I disagree then I must be racist. That card is way old and overplayed.


This is what you get when you let birthers lead your charge.
 
2013-06-14 10:39:48 AM

OHDUDENESS: That card is way old and overplayed.


Ok, then you tell us why travel expenses - which the article admits are in line with trips by previous Presidents - are an issue NOW.
 
2013-06-14 10:41:30 AM
hinten: Who says this is a vacation trip?

This.

Even if there is official claims that this is a just vacation, when the President of the United States travels overseas, it's never just a vacation.
 
2013-06-14 10:45:08 AM
This is a terrible scandal. One and a half Benghazis.

And that's being generous
 
2013-06-14 10:46:00 AM

Close2TheEdge: theknuckler_33: The Obama Family Trip to Africa to Cost $60 to $100 Million

per day... amirite?!?

Hey, that's just the price for Michelle's daily organic lunches and Dom champagne.  Plus those manicurists on board AF1 don't fly for free.

This thing could end up costing taxpayers $60 to 100 TRILLION FROOGLEPOOPILLION DOLLARS!

 
2013-06-14 10:59:08 AM

coeyagi: IrateShadow: This administration has a few actual scandals right now.  Why are conservatives wasting their time on this petty shiat?

Benghazi - Not an actual scandal
Umbrellagate - Um, no.
IRS - No WH involvement, IRS head resigned, moving along...
NSA - Congress allowed it, court approvals now instead of before

The bar for actual scandals has not reached much higher than that one time Obama used some binder clips to collate his documents.


Must be nice to have access to information the head of the FBI doesn't even have yet:
http://cnsnews.com/blog/joe-schoffstall/fbi-director-testifies-he-do es nt-know-whos-leading-investigation-irs-case
 
2013-06-14 10:59:17 AM
So, is this an actual vacation, or another diplomatic / conference trip that conservatives call a vacation when a Democrat goes?
 
2013-06-14 11:08:20 AM
Nero did it, why not obama. What could go wrong?
 
2013-06-14 11:15:17 AM

kyrg: Nero did it, why not obama. What could go wrong?


Nero also took a shiat every morning.  I am designating you as our top field agent in this manner.  Every time Obama drops a deuce, it's your job to fish it out of the toilet for analysis.

/Godspeed
 
2013-06-14 11:33:58 AM

Zeb Hesselgresser: "To meet our fiscal challenge, we will need to make reforms. We will all need to make sacrifices. But we do not have to sacrifice the America we believe in. And as long as I'm president, we won't."

At least he wasn't lying there.


FOX News like typing detected
 
2013-06-14 11:35:37 AM

ferretman: Must be nice to have access to information the head of the FBI doesn't even have yet:
http://cnsnews.com/blog/joe-schoffstall/fbi-director-testifies-he-d o es nt-know-whos-leading-investigation-irs-case


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2013-06-14 11:36:31 AM
He didn't spent all his time clearing brush

images.sodahead.com
 
2013-06-14 11:41:38 AM

coeyagi: IrateShadow: This administration has a few actual scandals right now.  Why are conservatives wasting their time on this petty shiat?

Benghazi - Not an actual scandal
Umbrellagate - Um, no.
IRS - No WH involvement, IRS head resigned, moving along...
NSA - Congress allowed it, court approvals now instead of before

The bar for actual scandals has not reached much higher than that one time Obama used some binder clips to collate his documents.


Excepting umbrellagate, all of those have more substance than this.  Hell, people are actually kind of mad about this NSA thing and that's really all the GOP needs.
 
2013-06-14 11:51:19 AM
The paper adds, "Obama's trip could cost the federal government $60 million to $100 million based on the costs of similar African trips in recent years, according to one person familiar with the journey who was not authorized to speak for attribution. The Secret Service planning document, which was provided to The Post by a person who is concerned about the amount of resources necessary for the trip, does not specify costs."

So in other words, the $60-$100M estimate is based on the costs of Pres. Bush's two Africa trips?
 
2013-06-14 11:59:20 AM

Kome: THIS IS THE WORST THING ANYONE HAS EVER DONE


He's probably going to a SEKRIT METING WITH HIS TURRIRIST BUDDIES!!!

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA!!!11!!
 
2013-06-14 12:19:20 PM
I can't see the rabid right being overly pissed about this.  He's only doing what they asked of him.

Going back to Africa.....on THEIR dime.
 
2013-06-14 12:20:40 PM

HeartBurnKid: The only one that I want to know more about is Prism.

Unfortunately, that's the only one it seems that Republicans are down with.


No, the republicans are ok with the AP thing too.
 
2013-06-14 12:33:55 PM

IrateShadow: coeyagi: IrateShadow: This administration has a few actual scandals right now.  Why are conservatives wasting their time on this petty shiat?

Benghazi - Not an actual scandal
Umbrellagate - Um, no.
IRS - No WH involvement, IRS head resigned, moving along...
NSA - Congress allowed it, court approvals now instead of before

The bar for actual scandals has not reached much higher than that one time Obama used some binder clips to collate his documents.

Excepting umbrellagate, all of those have more substance than this.  Hell, people are actually kind of mad about this NSA thing and that's really all the GOP needs.


Then blame congress, not Fartplinko.
 
2013-06-14 12:41:37 PM

OHDUDENESS: Why this obsession with always stating his color of skin? It makes any argument you have that whatever he's doing is right seem weak., like if I disagree then I must be racist. That card is way old and overplayed.


it wasn't that long ago when Palin referred to Obama's lobbying for support for something (I can't remember what) as "shuckin' and jivin'",  And elected officials and pundits continue to refer to him as "uppity".

I'm not the biggest fan of people like Bill Maher bringing up that GOPs only hate him because he's black, and it's a little exhausting to read "We get it, he's black" in the comments here, but I do get it.

Don't worry, though, if Hillary Clinton becomes President in 2016, every time she proposes a budget or does pretty much ANYTHING, pundits will use the same words to describe it:  It must be that time of the month again.
 
2013-06-14 12:45:55 PM
Anybody have the numbers for what all of Bush's vacations and trips back to his ranch (and hiding out in undisclosed locations) cost Americans?
 
2013-06-14 12:57:34 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Anybody have the numbers for what all of Bush's vacations and trips back to his ranch (and hiding out in undisclosed locations) cost Americans?


upload.wikimedia.org
A minimum of 3,000+
 
2013-06-14 12:59:58 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Anybody have the numbers for what all of Bush's vacations and trips back to his ranch (and hiding out in undisclosed locations) cost Americans?


IIRC, the biggest difference was that the SS and staff mostly stayed on the ranch, as opposed to blocks and blocks of suites at various 5 star hotels on Maui.  I'm no fan of either guy, but if you don't think that Obama could make slightly better decisions as to his time off that is invariably paid for with tax dollars, then at least don't just settle for the "BBBBBBbut Bush!" rebuttal.
 
2013-06-14 01:04:00 PM
www.pensitoreview.com
Did I say 3,000? My bad.
 
2013-06-14 01:07:55 PM

The Lone Gunman: I'm not the biggest fan of people like Bill Maher bringing up that GOPs only hate him because he's black, and it's a little exhausting to read "We get it, he's black" in the comments here, but I do get it.


When people criticize Obama for doing the same things other Presidents have done, it's hard to see it as anything other than racism. For example, the whole teleprompter thing. Every modern president has used a teleprompter. Why is Obama the only one criticized for using one? If you have a reason other than his skin color I'd love to hear it.
 
2013-06-14 01:33:01 PM
At $200,000,000 a day?  Am I too late?
 
2013-06-14 01:39:47 PM

coeyagi: [cdn.stripersonline.com image 350x417]


I love how Bush's brush clearing was always convenient to the press pool and their trucks. It always seemed to be in more or less the same place and loosened up for him, too.
 
2013-06-14 02:36:05 PM
It's BS to ridicule the POTUS for this crap. How about we ridicule the guy that says he needs 14 limousines in Africa?
 
2013-06-14 02:58:01 PM
To be accurate, he's only half black. He's also half white.
 
2013-06-14 03:07:28 PM

The Why Not Guy: The Lone Gunman: I'm not the biggest fan of people like Bill Maher bringing up that GOPs only hate him because he's black, and it's a little exhausting to read "We get it, he's black" in the comments here, but I do get it.

When people criticize Obama for doing the same things other Presidents have done, it's hard to see it as anything other than racism. For example, the whole teleprompter thing. Every modern president has used a teleprompter. Why is Obama the only one criticized for using one? If you have a reason other than his skin color I'd love to hear it.



They hate him because he's a Democrat.
They hate him more because he's black.
They hate him the most because his mother isn't.
 
2013-06-14 03:12:01 PM
"...now watch this drive spear throw!"
 
2013-06-14 03:17:45 PM

FilmBELOH20: The My Little Pony Killer: Anybody have the numbers for what all of Bush's vacations and trips back to his ranch (and hiding out in undisclosed locations) cost Americans?

IIRC, the biggest difference was that the SS and staff mostly stayed on the ranch, as opposed to blocks and blocks of suites at various 5 star hotels on Maui.  I'm no fan of either guy, but if you don't think that Obama could make slightly better decisions as to his time off that is invariably paid for with tax dollars, then at least don't just settle for the "BBBBBBbut Bush!" rebuttal.



Okay. How about b-b-b-but Bush took three times as many vacations days, and even if it was to the ranch the cost adds up.
Also, the house on the Crawford ranch has only four bedroom. I don't know where the President's staff, security people, and the White House Press Corps stayed, but it sure as hell wasn't there.
 
2013-06-14 03:44:49 PM

johnnieconnie: You would think that the press would be happier to go somewhere interesting instead of to Bush's ranch in the Middle-of-Nowhere, Texas.

Also,

hinten: Who says this is a vacation trip?

Also, FTFA: "the preparations appear to be in line with similar travels in the past"

Yes, God forbid that the American President visit other countries for any reason. It did say that they were trying to squeeze in a family vacation there, but it looks like it was mostly a working trip.


I think the difference is that the president doesn't usually take his children with him on a working trip overseas. And I do think the anti-Obama crowd are playing fast-and-loose with their accounting. It doesn't cost anymore to use Air Force one for just Obama or for the whole Obama family. It isn't as if Michelle and the girls lose their Secret Service protection when the president leaves the country. The security concerns for a president generally requires that the floor above and the floor below, as well as all rooms on the floor with the president are blocked off. Three floors full of rooms are going to cost the same if they are filled with people or not.

Whenever I see one of these "OMG Fartbongo spends Eleventy-twelve Trillion for trip to foreign nation!!!" I just tend to write that person off as an idiot.
 
2013-06-14 04:01:25 PM
My only hope is that at some point while he's there he says "I'm glad to be home."
 
2013-06-14 04:05:25 PM
President Bush spent 32% of his presidency on vacation.

President Bush spent 32% of his presidency on vacation.

President Bush spent 32% of his presidency on vacation.

President Bush spent 32% of his presidency on vacation.

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2013-06-14 04:25:28 PM

The Why Not Guy: The Lone Gunman: I'm not the biggest fan of people like Bill Maher bringing up that GOPs only hate him because he's black, and it's a little exhausting to read "We get it, he's black" in the comments here, but I do get it.

When people criticize Obama for doing the same things other Presidents have done, it's hard to see it as anything other than racism. For example, the whole teleprompter thing. Every modern president has used a teleprompter. Why is Obama the only one criticized for using one? If you have a reason other than his skin color I'd love to hear it.


You have to remember that the internet merely amplifies all the bullsh*t. It's not always racism; it's more often hyper-partisanship. While we could still log on in the Clinton era, the derp was nowhere near this easy to see. But the rubes still set ammunition sales records in 1993, accused him of sending black helicopters, and tried to make anything possibly scandalous stick. The difference is, it was mostly in newsletter/magazine form. Plus, FOX was still a fledgling network. It's just more efficient these days for media and websites to whip people into a froth over stupid things.

Racism definitely exists, but there are other explanations, too.
 
2013-06-14 04:59:18 PM

OHDUDENESS: Why this obsession with always stating his color of skin? It makes any argument you have that whatever he's doing is right seem weak., like if I disagree then I must be racist. That card is way old and overplayed.


10/10
Masterful trolling.
 
2013-06-14 05:01:59 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: This obsession with the cost of Presidential security is downright creepy.


Well, it makes sense if you consider that if we weren't spending so much money on security, it would be easier to kill him.
 
2013-06-14 05:05:43 PM

dickfreckle: Racism definitely exists, but there are other explanations, too.


Oh I agree, I'm not saying it's all racism, or that there are no legitimate complaints against the Obama administration. There are plenty. My issue is with people who whine about how you can't criticize Obama without being labeled racist, as if racism isn't a factor at all.
 
2013-06-14 06:14:23 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: This obsession with the cost of Presidential security is downright creepy.


The obsession  with defending Obama at all costs is outright creepy.

In a time where the Federal Government can't even afford White House Tours... is it really the time to send the President instead of just using normal diplomatic means?
 
2013-06-14 06:54:53 PM

AiryAnne: To be accurate, he's only half black. He's also half white.


No, he's not "white." Race is not biological. Race is the cultural experience of being "raced." Obama has never been perceived as white. He identifies as African-American or "black," which is precisely how American social perception would define him.
 
2013-06-14 07:39:32 PM

MyRandomName: The obsession  with defending Obama at all costs is outright creepy.

In a time where the Federal Government can't even afford White House Tours... is it really the time to send the President instead of just using normal diplomatic means?


There's nothing to defend. The President goes places. Deal with it.
 
2013-06-14 09:20:18 PM

ferretman: Trivia Jockey: It's arguably one of the most stressful jobs in the world.  Does anyone really want a president to work non-stop with no vacations to de-stress or clear his head?

Imagine if your surgeon never took a vacation, working 70-hour weeks non-stop all year round.

He really hasn't done a whole lot of work to justify a $80-$100 million dollar vacation (if there is any validity to this article).


So this is a lazy good for nothing week, I'm assuming next week is the evil fascist dictator who's personally coming for your jerbs spiel.
 
2013-06-14 09:48:17 PM

EyeballKid: WHAH IS THE LAMSMESTREAM MEDEEUH IGNOARIN DIS?!


I read that in Idi Amin's voice, probably because I'm watching Blood Diamond.
 
2013-06-14 09:52:55 PM
Either that or PRISM found something out which both inspired the sending rebels weapons, while demonstrating that we do really know what's coming up.
 
2013-06-14 10:01:32 PM

skozlaw: Is there, like, a schedule for this derp or something, or do conservatives just randomly pull slips of paper out of an "outrage" hat from time to time?

I do have to question if all of this is really, strictly necessary though... 56 support vehicles have to be airlifted in? An assault team in case of a rogue cheetah?

I have to seriously wonder if presidential security hasn't become one of those things where we could get 99% security for, say, $5 million and then every .1% after that costs another $5 million....

I mean... I'm cool with Obama as president, but odds man.... odds....


All this is the usual security. The sniper stuff is what the Marines typically carry, I'm guessing, and the fact that it could take down a rogue cheetah is the journalist's idea of "color". All the rest--the limos, the bulletproof glass, the Navy trauma ship--that's what the US President ALWAYS travels with, it's just that because Obama promised to be more transparent than his predecessors, you never heard about all this till now.

Going to Sub-Saharan Africa ain't like dustin' crops, boy. Most of those countries have governments only in name, so the fear of attack by armed thugs with AK-47s and RPGs is very real. Hence the need for fighter flyovers and Marine snipers on the rooftops. A bullet that can take out a cheetah can also take out a gunman wearing body armor. And nobody wants the leader of the free world going to a hospital where Ebola and West Nile Virus make regular appearances if he gets shot, you know? So you don't travel the President around on the cheap.

All this stuff has always been done, but Obama is learning exactly why Bush and Clinton and the rest never promised "transparency." It looks bad.
 
2013-06-14 11:04:05 PM
 
2013-06-15 01:52:51 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: MyRandomName: The obsession  with defending Obama at all costs is outright creepy.

In a time where the Federal Government can't even afford White House Tours... is it really the time to send the President instead of just using normal diplomatic means?

There's nothing to defend. The President goes places. Deal with it.




"The president just stays holed up in the White House! He's giving other countries the impression that we are too poor to send our chief executive abroad! They're probably going to start having canned food drives for the White House! This is an outrage!" - A likely outcome. The Obama administration has become the leading example for damned if you do, damned if you don't.
 
2013-06-15 03:14:49 AM

The Why Not Guy: The Lone Gunman: I'm not the biggest fan of people like Bill Maher bringing up that GOPs only hate him because he's black, and it's a little exhausting to read "We get it, he's black" in the comments here, but I do get it.

When people criticize Obama for doing the same things other Presidents have done, it's hard to see it as anything other than racism. For example, the whole teleprompter thing. Every modern president has used a teleprompter. Why is Obama the only one criticized for using one? If you have a reason other than his skin color I'd love to hear it.


Obama's administration was the first time that the Republican media had been so organized and consolidated against a Democratic President.  And, while the graphic says "Not racist, but #1 with racists", the right-wing media would do the same thing if he was Catholic (and remember, there were more than a few articles asking if this might be a problem when John Kerry was running than when Paul Ryan was), Mormon (look how differently Harry Reid is treated than Mitt Romney was), black, or female.  This media doesn't hate Obama because he's black, they hate him because he's a Democrat.  And they use whatever angle they can to convey how awful he is.

Long story short:  If they believe that the voters are racist, the right-wing media will use that to garner negative support against Obama.  That's not, in and of itself, racist.  It is, however, farking evil.
 
2013-06-15 03:37:58 PM

coeyagi: IrateShadow: This administration has a few actual scandals right now.  Why are conservatives wasting their time on this petty shiat?

Benghazi - Not an actual scandal
Umbrellagate - Um, no.
IRS - No WH involvement, IRS head resigned, moving along...
NSA - Congress allowed it, court approvals now instead of before

The bar for actual scandals has not reached much higher than that one time Obama used some binder clips to collate his documents.


Like he owns the place!

The "scandal" eventually defers to the Republicans for continuous, malignant, unreconstructed obstructionism and wolf-crying -- of the least noble, most bald-faced and unutterably cynical order. The explicit statements from their party leaders indicate it's entirely personal, about destroying Obama.

It's clear pathological obsession and slow derangement has already destroyed any vitality and worth this party ever had left.
 
2013-06-15 05:16:05 PM

The Lone Gunman: The Why Not Guy: The Lone Gunman: I'm not the biggest fan of people like Bill Maher bringing up that GOPs only hate him because he's black, and it's a little exhausting to read "We get it, he's black" in the comments here, but I do get it.

When people criticize Obama for doing the same things other Presidents have done, it's hard to see it as anything other than racism. For example, the whole teleprompter thing. Every modern president has used a teleprompter. Why is Obama the only one criticized for using one? If you have a reason other than his skin color I'd love to hear it.

Obama's administration was the first time that the Republican media had been so organized and consolidated against a Democratic President.  And, while the graphic says "Not racist, but #1 with racists", the right-wing media would do the same thing if he was Catholic (and remember, there were more than a few articles asking if this might be a problem when John Kerry was running than when Paul Ryan was), Mormon (look how differently Harry Reid is treated than Mitt Romney was), black, or female.  This media doesn't hate Obama because he's black, they hate him because he's a Democrat.  And they use whatever angle they can to convey how awful he is.

Long story short:  If they believe that the voters are racist, the right-wing media will use that to garner negative support against Obama.  That's not, in and of itself, racist.  It is, however, farking evil.


Even shorter:

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