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(KOB4)   Wow, $25 a year back from the power company if I sign up to have my AC shut off during the hottest part of the day in the desert southwest? Where do I sign?   (kob.com) divider line 149
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2013-06-14 09:16:36 AM
How about you go back to your swamp coolers which are little more than a water pump and a fan?
 
2013-06-14 09:30:04 AM
The local power company around me was just bought out, the new owners keep going to the State asking for a 20% rate hike. Surprisingly, the GOP lead house said: Nope.
But, they are negotiating, so they'll probably bring it down to an 18% hike.
Yay.
 
2013-06-14 09:35:32 AM
...Where do I sign?
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Just make an 'X' on this piece of leather.
 
2013-06-14 09:36:33 AM
I have one of these installed in my townhouse in MN. I've never noticed a problem with it even on those awful humid 100+ days. You don't need to keep your house at a constant 69 degrees all summer. Get to the bottom floor of your home and invest in a cheap oscillating fan. You'll be amazed at how well it cools you down without having to draw the power of a small factory.
 
2013-06-14 09:37:06 AM
that have plans like that in Florida too, to which i said "HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA"

/cranks air down to 70.
 
2013-06-14 09:37:12 AM
Solar power could work if you live in a desert.
/Don't hit me
 
2013-06-14 09:38:38 AM
You could also try not living in the desert.  Just a thought.
 
2013-06-14 09:39:00 AM

CapeFearCadaver: The local power company around me was just bought out, the new owners keep going to the State asking for a 20% rate hike. Surprisingly, the GOP lead house said: Nope.
But, they are negotiating, so they'll probably bring it down to an 18% hike.
Yay.


:'( full monopoly?
 
2013-06-14 09:39:00 AM
Shouldn't they just apply punitive taxes to these families so they will stop trying to cool their houses.

After all, they are harming the environment.
 
2013-06-14 09:39:01 AM
I'd totally do this.  I'm at work during the hottest part of the day.  I always bump up the AC to 82/83 when I leave in the morning.  Has anyone tried one of these Nest thermostats?

www.getpureair.com
Home Depot is pushing these things pretty hard.
 
2013-06-14 09:39:59 AM
Point me in the direction of Albuquerque
www.peolpstar.com
 
2013-06-14 09:40:29 AM
even better, $35 rebate from the ND gas company in the winter season.  (**only available on snow days)
 
2013-06-14 09:42:48 AM

KrispyKritter: Point me in the direction of Albuquerque
[www.peolpstar.com image 204x218]


Just make sure you take a left....

static.tvtropes.org
 
2013-06-14 09:43:07 AM

Rapmaster2000: I'd totally do this.  I'm at work during the hottest part of the day.  I always bump up the AC to 82/83 when I leave in the morning.  Has anyone tried one of these Nest thermostats?

[www.getpureair.com image 538x360]
Home Depot is pushing these things pretty hard.


They sound pretty amazing.  I'm tempted to get them. The only drawback I've heard is that they can be sensitive to spikes on the low voltage line feeding them. In some cases they need to be replaced and NEST won't cover it.  The trick is instead of "failing closed" and just shutting off, the spike freaks it out and causes your heat or A/C to run full blast and it's usually the opposite of what you want.

Gen2 came out a bit ago. I might wait until Gen3. They did just add code to work around the situation where a NEST is in direct sunlight part of the day.  Also a humidity sensor can now trigger the HVAC to come on to remove humidity.
 
2013-06-14 09:43:19 AM
Yeah, but it's a dry heat.
 
2013-06-14 09:44:37 AM
$25 a year?  In trade, I get my AC automatically shut off for an indeterminate amount of time each day during the hottest part of the day AND it does nothing to reduce my monthly power bill?  Gee...decisions, decisions.
 
2013-06-14 09:45:40 AM

wraithmare: Rapmaster2000: I'd totally do this.  I'm at work during the hottest part of the day.  I always bump up the AC to 82/83 when I leave in the morning.  Has anyone tried one of these Nest thermostats?

[www.getpureair.com image 538x360]
Home Depot is pushing these things pretty hard.

They sound pretty amazing.  I'm tempted to get them. The only drawback I've heard is that they can be sensitive to spikes on the low voltage line feeding them. In some cases they need to be replaced and NEST won't cover it.  The trick is instead of "failing closed" and just shutting off, the spike freaks it out and causes your heat or A/C to run full blast and it's usually the opposite of what you want.

Gen2 came out a bit ago. I might wait until Gen3. They did just add code to work around the situation where a NEST is in direct sunlight part of the day.  Also a humidity sensor can now trigger the HVAC to come on to remove humidity.


Interesting.  Is there a developer's wiki for that info?  How did you find out these updates?

/sw engineer
 
2013-06-14 09:45:42 AM

thisone: :'( full monopoly?


Yep.
 
2013-06-14 09:46:03 AM
Laugh now, but eventually you won't be given the option, it will just happen.  There won't be a rebate, there will be a penalty for not complying.
 
2013-06-14 09:46:34 AM

MightyPez: I have one of these installed in my townhouse in MN. I've never noticed a problem with it even on those awful humid 100+ days. You don't need to keep your house at a constant 69 degrees all summer. Get to the bottom floor of your home and invest in a cheap oscillating fan. You'll be amazed at how well it cools you down without having to draw the power of a small factory.


I don't have AC.  I live in Appalachia where on the worst days it can get jungle like conditions (lots of humidity).

Of course, if you live in a old house, they were made for air flow.  So, a couple of fans in key windows and you get a nice breeze through the house.  I think that I am "uncomfortable" for at least a week out of the year, and the rest of the time it is pretty nice.
 
2013-06-14 09:47:21 AM

bearded clamorer: Yeah, but it's a dry heat.


Yeah, since I keep hearing that "in the southwest sweating works" ... why don't you mofos sweat a lil bit then ?
 
2013-06-14 09:47:36 AM
I do not want to participate in your program. With this month's payment please note I have included an extra $25.00.
 
2013-06-14 09:48:05 AM
APS is AZ who gave tax credits to consumers who purchased solar systems, is now asking the corporation commission for a rate increase due to loss of revenues from the reduction of power used.  So you want us to go to alternative energy, as long as we don't effect your bottom line?
 
2013-06-14 09:49:41 AM
If you have electricity and AC, you're probably not living on a reservation.
You'll get over it.
 
2013-06-14 09:50:02 AM

Magnus: $25 a year? In trade, I get my AC automatically shut off for an indeterminate amount of time each day during the hottest part of the day AND it does nothing to reduce my monthly power bill? Gee...decisions, decisions.


Does your bill not change based on the amount of energy you use? By having the AC off you are not using more energy and your monthly bill should be lower in addition to the $25
 
2013-06-14 09:54:57 AM

Rapmaster2000: I'd totally do this.  I'm at work during the hottest part of the day.  I always bump up the AC to 82/83 when I leave in the morning.  Has anyone tried one of these Nest thermostats?

[www.getpureair.com image 538x360]
Home Depot is pushing these things pretty hard.


Yes, the Nest is awesome. I really like being able to check or adjust the temp in my home from my phone. Sometimes I do it that way because it's easier than getting out of my chair and walking 10 paces.

/lazy
 
2013-06-14 09:55:15 AM

MightyPez: I have one of these installed in my townhouse in MN. I've never noticed a problem with it even on those awful humid 100+ days. You don't need to keep your house at a constant 69 degrees all summer. Get to the bottom floor of your home and invest in a cheap oscillating fan. You'll be amazed at how well it cools you down without having to draw the power of a small factory.


this is great for places that have basements.
I agree with the 69 degree thing. I keep mine at 80.
But I live in texas. During August if they turned off my ac during the hottest part of the day. I would spend much more money than 25 bucks trying to cool my house down later.
 
2013-06-14 09:56:09 AM
Just think of all the money/energy/resources you would save if you didn't LIVE IN A GODDAMN DESERT THAT DOESN'T HAVE WATER & IS A MILLION F**KIN' DEGREES DURING THE DAY!!

Great Lakes water? NOT YOURS!!
 
2013-06-14 09:56:36 AM

CapeFearCadaver: The local power company around me was just bought out, the new owners keep going to the State asking for a 20% rate hike. Surprisingly, the GOP lead house said: Nope.
But, they are negotiating, so they'll probably bring it down to an 18% hike.
Yay.


Here is how this works:.  The power company really wants a 10% hike.  They come out for the 20% hike.  The GOP house leader gets to grand-stand and say nope.

Then the two of them will hash out a deal for the 10% rate hike and the GOP house leader will claim he was fighting for the people.  Meanwhile the power company will make his campaign coffers flush and hire his friends.

It's a win-win for the power company and the GOP house leader.
 
2013-06-14 09:56:42 AM

roddack: Magnus: $25 a year? In trade, I get my AC automatically shut off for an indeterminate amount of time each day during the hottest part of the day AND it does nothing to reduce my monthly power bill? Gee...decisions, decisions.

Does your bill not change based on the amount of energy you use? By having the AC off you are not using more energy and your monthly bill should be lower in addition to the $25


I was thinking the same thing.  Reduction in energy by not having the AC running would, by definition, reduce your energy bill, unless you're agreeing to some rate hike or other such shenaniganry by virtue of signing up for the program, in which case they can cram it.
 
2013-06-14 09:58:04 AM
My house in Las Vegas was on a program like this 20 years ago. The A/C was shut off for no more than 15 minutes at a time and I never noticed it.

/Swamp boxes are worse than useless when the air temperature goes over 110F. You end up with hot (90-95F), moist air blowing around.
 
2013-06-14 09:58:06 AM

Carn: You could also try not living in the desert.  Just a thought.


We dont biatch at you for your gas bills during winter.  Dont biatch at us for using AC during the summer.
 
2013-06-14 09:59:22 AM
This works out nicely for me in southeastern PA as I am not home during the day and it is just not that hot here. If I was one of those retired AZ folks I would think twice about trying to score an extra $25
 
2013-06-14 09:59:48 AM

roddack: Magnus: $25 a year? In trade, I get my AC automatically shut off for an indeterminate amount of time each day during the hottest part of the day AND it does nothing to reduce my monthly power bill? Gee...decisions, decisions.

Does your bill not change based on the amount of energy you use? By having the AC off you are not using more energy and your monthly bill should be lower in addition to the $25


The AC runs longer at night to get back down to his desired temperature, so the same energy amount is being used.
 
2013-06-14 10:01:05 AM

BiffDangler: CapeFearCadaver: The local power company around me was just bought out, the new owners keep going to the State asking for a 20% rate hike. Surprisingly, the GOP lead house said: Nope.
But, they are negotiating, so they'll probably bring it down to an 18% hike.
Yay.

Here is how this works:.  The power company really wants a 10% hike.  They come out for the 20% hike.  The GOP house leader gets to grand-stand and say nope.

Then the two of them will hash out a deal for the 10% rate hike and the GOP house leader will claim he was fighting for the people.  Meanwhile the power company will make his campaign coffers flush and hire his friends.

It's a win-win for the power company and the GOP house leader.


You know this story is about New Mexico... a Democrat state.  Why are you two trying to conflate it to a GOP only issue?  Energy negotiations happen in every damn state.  It is not a GOP/Dem thing.
 
2013-06-14 10:01:13 AM

Rapmaster2000: I'd totally do this.  I'm at work during the hottest part of the day.  I always bump up the AC to 82/83 when I leave in the morning.  Has anyone tried one of these Nest thermostats?

[www.getpureair.com image 538x360]
Home Depot is pushing these things pretty hard.


Don't have that one but i do have a honeywell got it at home depot. very basic but like you i am at work all day so and this has 4 cycles wake up/gone/return/sleep.  i have it at 72 for an hour when i wake up.  then is kicks up to 80 when im gone and about 30 mins before i get home kicks back down to 72 till bed time then back up to 74.  mines the cheapest one about $30.  the price goes up from there in functions and what not. live in texas and i am seeing cost benefit.

cache3.smarthome.com

The Honeywell RTH221B1021/A 5-1-1 Day Programmable Thermostat is designed to provide you with push-button climate control, with advanced programming schedules to save energy, while offering the reliability to give you many years of service. In contrast to Non-Programmable thermostats which simply allow you to select a setpoint temperature and turn the thermostat to cool or heat, a Programmable thermostat allows you to create schedules for automatically running your cooling or heating system a certain times. A 5-1-1 Programmable Thermostat is best if you tend to keep one schedule Monday through Friday (5) and another schedule on Saturdays (1) and Sundays (1). The thermostat is pre-programmed with a set schedule; however this is easily modified to fit your lifestyle. You can even temporarily ignore the programmed schedule by using the up or down arrow buttons to adjust the temperature. There is a battery backup, two AAA batteries required (sold separately), that will maintain your setpoint even if you lose power; a low battery indicator displays when the batteries need to be replaced. A built-in compressor protection feature helps prevent damage to the compressor in your air conditioning or heat pump system which can occur if the compressor is restarted too soon after shutdown.
 
2013-06-14 10:02:32 AM
I've been on a program like this for ten years or so in Austin. Not a big deal. Also, if you're keeping your house at 78F, IMHO, you're part of the problem. When I do run the AC it is set to 85F or so. And it is usually only on for a few hours during the hot part of the day. And usually only when it is actually hot (92F+) or extremely humid. Okay, I'm part of the problem, too, I admit it.

//Grew up in Austin without any AC at all.
 
2013-06-14 10:02:37 AM

jeffowl: Laugh now, but eventually you won't be given the option, it will just happen.  There won't be a rebate, there will be a penalty for not complying.


Very much this. And now they've installed all the SmartMeters for everyone, so noncompliance will mean they just turn it off altogether.
 
2013-06-14 10:03:13 AM

MyRandomName: Carn: You could also try not living in the desert.  Just a thought.

We dont biatch at you for your gas bills during winter.  Dont biatch at us for using AC during the summer.


I'm not biatching about AC, I live in VA after all and I could not live here without AC.  I was just making a general comment on the stupidity of living in the desert.  Lack of water, being a primary concern.  Lake Meade is just about dried up.  We here on the coast can just start drinking the ocean when we dry up the Potomac.
 
2013-06-14 10:04:25 AM

BiffDangler: CapeFearCadaver: The local power company around me was just bought out, the new owners keep going to the State asking for a 20% rate hike. Surprisingly, the GOP lead house said: Nope.
But, they are negotiating, so they'll probably bring it down to an 18% hike.
Yay.

Here is how this works:.  The power company really wants a 10% hike.  They come out for the 20% hike.  The GOP house leader gets to grand-stand and say nope.

Then the two of them will hash out a deal for the 10% rate hike and the GOP house leader will claim he was fighting for the people.  Meanwhile the power company will make his campaign coffers flush and hire his friends.

It's a win-win for the power company and the GOP house leader.


I know.

;'(
 
2013-06-14 10:05:42 AM

captmingus: APS is AZ who gave tax credits to consumers who purchased solar systems, is now asking the corporation commission for a rate increase due to loss of revenues from the reduction of power used.  So you want us to go to alternative energy, as long as we don't effect your bottom line?


That seems to be pretty much the way the power companies want it, which is why I would have no qualms at all about nationalizing the utility industry. TVA, Bonneville, etc. worked out so well that the GOP made the obstruction of other Federally funded power sources one of their top missions after WWII. (Their top three as I see them: protecting the private power lobby, getting Taft-Hartley passed and making the oil depletion allowance untouchable.)

God, there are days when I wish I had the power of Stalin over this country.
 
2013-06-14 10:06:24 AM

MyRandomName: Carn: You could also try not living in the desert.  Just a thought.

We dont biatch at you for your gas bills during winter.  Dont biatch at us for using AC during the summer.


What is this gas bill you speak of?

encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2013-06-14 10:07:01 AM
FTFA: Jerry Cross said, the coolest his house has gotten this week is 78 degrees.

Honestly, when it's 100 degrees out, 78 is positively chilly.

/hates it when stores and restaurants turn their air up to the "walk-in freezer" setting
 
2013-06-14 10:08:57 AM

Fubegra: /hates it when stores and restaurants turn their air up to the "walk-in freezer" setting


You forgot movie theaters
 
2013-06-14 10:09:00 AM

roddack: Magnus: $25 a year? In trade, I get my AC automatically shut off for an indeterminate amount of time each day during the hottest part of the day AND it does nothing to reduce my monthly power bill? Gee...decisions, decisions.

Does your bill not change based on the amount of energy you use? By having the AC off you are not using more energy and your monthly bill should be lower in addition to the $25


Reading the article usually helps avoiding making statements like you just made.  For example:  "PNM Spokeswoman Valerie Smith said...'Before customers sign up, it is important to know, participation will not cut your monthly bill.'"

Next time, please don't assume something before reading the article.
 
2013-06-14 10:09:42 AM

ThePunishr: Rapmaster2000: I'd totally do this.  I'm at work during the hottest part of the day.  I always bump up the AC to 82/83 when I leave in the morning.  Has anyone tried one of these Nest thermostats?

[www.getpureair.com image 538x360]
Home Depot is pushing these things pretty hard.

Yes, the Nest is awesome. I really like being able to check or adjust the temp in my home from my phone. Sometimes I do it that way because it's easier than getting out of my chair and walking 10 paces.

/lazy


I've heard they work best when you have multiple in your home, so they can sense the temperature difference. Its probably not worth the expense of having multiple though as your AC probably doesn't have zone control to provide different outputs.
 
2013-06-14 10:10:09 AM

Comic Book Guy: roddack: Magnus: $25 a year? In trade, I get my AC automatically shut off for an indeterminate amount of time each day during the hottest part of the day AND it does nothing to reduce my monthly power bill? Gee...decisions, decisions.

Does your bill not change based on the amount of energy you use? By having the AC off you are not using more energy and your monthly bill should be lower in addition to the $25

I was thinking the same thing.  Reduction in energy by not having the AC running would, by definition, reduce your energy bill, unless you're agreeing to some rate hike or other such shenaniganry by virtue of signing up for the program, in which case they can cram it.


Read the article.  Then think.  It's kind of what I did.
 
2013-06-14 10:11:20 AM

MyRandomName: BiffDangler: CapeFearCadaver: The local power company around me was just bought out, the new owners keep going to the State asking for a 20% rate hike. Surprisingly, the GOP lead house said: Nope.
But, they are negotiating, so they'll probably bring it down to an 18% hike.
Yay.

Here is how this works:.  The power company really wants a 10% hike.  They come out for the 20% hike.  The GOP house leader gets to grand-stand and say nope.

Then the two of them will hash out a deal for the 10% rate hike and the GOP house leader will claim he was fighting for the people.  Meanwhile the power company will make his campaign coffers flush and hire his friends.

It's a win-win for the power company and the GOP house leader.

You know this story is about New Mexico... a Democrat state.  Why are you two trying to conflate it to a GOP only issue?  Energy negotiations happen in every damn state.  It is not a GOP/Dem thing.


To some folks, every issue is a Dem/GOP issue.   If the GOP isn't the problem here, then FoxNews, Sarah Palin, or George Bush is.
 
2013-06-14 10:11:45 AM

MyRandomName: roddack: Magnus: $25 a year? In trade, I get my AC automatically shut off for an indeterminate amount of time each day during the hottest part of the day AND it does nothing to reduce my monthly power bill? Gee...decisions, decisions.

Does your bill not change based on the amount of energy you use? By having the AC off you are not using more energy and your monthly bill should be lower in addition to the $25

The AC runs longer at night to get back down to his desired temperature, so the same energy amount is being used.


Which I assume negates the whole "good for the environment" benefit, no?
 
2013-06-14 10:11:47 AM

tungub: I've been on a program like this for ten years or so in Austin. Not a big deal. Also, if you're keeping your house at 78F, IMHO, you're part of the problem. When I do run the AC it is set to 85F or so. And it is usually only on for a few hours during the hot part of the day. And usually only when it is actually hot (92F+) or extremely humid. Okay, I'm part of the problem, too, I admit it.

//Grew up in Austin without any AC at all.


you must really hate me then...

/see post above
//part of the problem in austin
///cranks its down to 72
////slashies
 
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