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(CNN)   Xbox One's big advantage? "It's digital" says Microsoft's Chief Marketing Officer, Mr. Constipated Sherlock. Definitely an advantage over the all analog PS4   (cnn.com) divider line 457
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2013-06-13 03:23:46 PM  
Well...looks like ill be buying a PS4...
 
2013-06-13 03:23:49 PM  

remus: But is it Hi Fi?


I heard they will be using Dubly to get the proper sound mix.  Also the tubes in the current Xbox are a biatch to swap out.  I hope they got the newer transistors, and a better tube system.

/won't be buying one
 
2013-06-13 03:24:11 PM  

YoOjo: Video games are for children, drug addicts and other dead wood.
I prefer reading books and doing crosswords, thus indicating to the whole world that I'm not easily fascinated by flashy lights and have some sort of grasp on non-immediate rewards.


Tell me, what's a 9-letter word for a flexible plastic sack filled with purified water and distilled vinegar?
 
2013-06-13 03:24:15 PM  
Eh. Sony already walked back their "No DRM" announcement. And physical media is going away. It's the future, MS is just getting in front of it.
 
2013-06-13 03:24:16 PM  

Rapmaster2000: It does the cloud too!  Always mention the cloud.


Not just the cloud -- the digital cloud.
 
2013-06-13 03:24:38 PM  

YoOjo: Video games are for children, drug addicts and other dead wood.
I prefer reading books and doing crosswords, thus indicating to the whole world that I'm not easily fascinated by flashy lights and have some sort of grasp on non-immediate rewards.


Sex must seem like a chore to you.  Oh who am I kidding, like this guy has any interest in something as base and unintillectual like sex.
 
2013-06-13 03:25:04 PM  

Aarontology: that's why I play Fallout 3 on several thousand vinyl LP's.


I prefer the less newfangled Edison cylinders.
 
2013-06-13 03:25:21 PM  

Superjew: My theory is they're actually TRYING to make every mistake possible ahead of time so they can release something only halfway lame and redeem themselves at the last moment.


I'm starting to think this too. I can't imagine that with this many people you could screw up every single point of a product specification, launch, and damage control without it being planned this way in advance.

Maybe the execs are looking to buy up absurdly cheap MS stocks when they bottom out.
 
2013-06-13 03:25:23 PM  

Baby Face Fister: I'm still playing my PS2, have a ton of great games and why yes I am old.


While cleaning up my archives last month, I came across the Descent 2 CD. Could not resist - got it loaded and played for about 20 hours. Good times.
 
2013-06-13 03:25:23 PM  

Egoy3k: Gamers love steam. Microsoft sees steam as a competitor, and copies the steam business model. Gamers hate Xbox one. You can't explain that.


Yeah I honestly can't explain that.
 
2013-06-13 03:25:24 PM  

Egoy3k: Gamers love steam. Microsoft sees steam as a competitor, and copies the steam business model. Gamers hate Xbox one. You can't explain that.

I'm honestly more pissed off about Konami throwing David Hayter under the bus for Keifer farking Sutherland than I am about the Xbox One.

"Oh hey guys we have one of the most iconic video game characters of all time who has been voiced by the same guy since video game characters had voices but you know what lets change it up and get that guy from 24 to do our voices."

/I'll end up getting an Xbox One and a PS4 and probably spend more time gaming on my PC anyway
//seriously Konami you suck


Hayters gonna Hayt.
 
2013-06-13 03:25:50 PM  
HotWingConspiracy: ...physical media is going away. It's the future, MS is just getting in front of it.

While I don't disagree with you, I think we most likely differ on the time frame for that to occur.
 
2013-06-13 03:25:56 PM  

Egoy3k: Gamers love steam. Microsoft sees steam as a competitor, and copies the steam business model. Gamers hate Xbox one. You can't explain that.

I'm honestly more pissed off about Konami throwing David Hayter under the bus for Keifer farking Sutherland than I am about the Xbox One.

"Oh hey guys we have one of the most iconic video game characters of all time who has been voiced by the same guy since video game characters had voices but you know what lets change it up and get that guy from 24 to do our voices."

/I'll end up getting an Xbox One and a PS4 and probably spend more time gaming on my PC anyway
//seriously Konami you suck


honestly, I don't give fark 1 about always online or inability to sell games or any of that. The super spooky spycam gets me a bit but otherwise, meh. I love me some video games but they aren't such a huge part of my life that selling them and buying used is really all that important. I don't replay games once I finish them and I am a completionist so I only go through a few games a year so, again, meh
 
2013-06-13 03:26:08 PM  

scottydoesntknow: On Xbox One, having all games exist as cloud-connected downloads enables new features like being able to access your entire library at a friend's house with a single login, or loaning games to up to ten "family members" digitally and remotely.

I keep seeing this as a "great" reason for the Xbox One, but what about having to actually download those games first? I mean we're talking Blu-Ray size games so you're looking at gigabytes worth of data. When I got Fable 3 it took 2 hours and that was only 4.5GB.

Battlefield 3 is at over 14GB on the 360, and that's excluding any of the DLCs. They honestly think I want to go to a friend's house and spend hours waiting for a game to download before we can play it?

I know the PS4 will require installations of the games, but that should be a hell of a lot quicker than having to actually download the entire game.


I don't think you understand cloud computing.
 
2013-06-13 03:26:10 PM  
Wow...

It's not looking good, and as a .NET developer that kind of sucks.  It's like the worst parts of Apple with none of the cool design.  First they screwed up WPF/Silverlight, then Windows 8 was/is a trainwreck, then they released the Surface (which I still haven't once seen anyone using... do they really exist?), and now this.

What's happened is that MS stopped promoting idea people and started letting Marketing run the company.  They have a nice solid business desktop advantage, but they are mistaken if they think they can hold onto it for long with all this shiat going on.  Mark my words, all those restrictions and crap will lose them a LOT of devs, and no software = fail.
 
2013-06-13 03:26:10 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah, ask libraries how well that's worked out for them surrounding e-books.

Fark you, Yusuf Mehdi.


I think e-books are working just fine for my libary.  I rent myself up several e-books and audio books a month through them.
 
2013-06-13 03:26:15 PM  

YoOjo: Video games are for children, drug addicts and other dead wood.
I prefer reading books and doing crosswords, thus indicating to the whole world that I'm not easily fascinated by flashy lights and have some sort of grasp on non-immediate rewards.


Want to know how I know you're lying your ass off?

You're in Fark, in a Video Game thread.
 
2013-06-13 03:26:35 PM  
i232.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-13 03:27:37 PM  
PS4 is cheaper, more powerful and doesn't seem intent on pissing off its customers. The fact anyone is still looking forward to Xbox is proof many gamers are sadists.
 
2013-06-13 03:27:46 PM  
Digital is better for business models centered around rent-seeking behavior. It's not so good for anything else.
 
2013-06-13 03:27:58 PM  

solaufein: HotWingConspiracy: ...physical media is going away. It's the future, MS is just getting in front of it.

While I don't disagree with you, I think we most likely differ on the time frame for that to occur.


Yeah I can see where they might be jumping the gun. But if it wasn't them, it would be someone else.
 
2013-06-13 03:28:12 PM  
s3-ak.buzzfeed.com

Rock wins.
 
2013-06-13 03:29:15 PM  

LeoffDaGrate: YoOjo: Video games are for children, drug addicts and other dead wood.
I prefer reading books and doing crosswords, thus indicating to the whole world that I'm not easily fascinated by flashy lights and have some sort of grasp on non-immediate rewards.

Want to know how I know you're lying your ass off?

You're in Fark, in a Video Game thread.


Ha, erm... well...
I used to be a bit of an addict but I managed to stop playing a few years ago. Now I hardly care but the new consoles piqued my interest.
Is there anything on the horizon from the makers of Ico/SotC?
 
2013-06-13 03:29:34 PM  

Surool: Superjew: My theory is they're actually TRYING to make every mistake possible ahead of time so they can release something only halfway lame and redeem themselves at the last moment.

I'm starting to think this too. I can't imagine that with this many people you could screw up every single point of a product specification, launch, and damage control without it being planned this way in advance.


 Dude, did you miss the PS3 launch?
 
2013-06-13 03:29:53 PM  

chewielouie:


I lol'd
 
2013-06-13 03:30:00 PM  
Just look at how badly Redbox is doing with so much competition from digital distributors.

My son can play any game from his account that we have installed on the 360 to my account. Thank you Microsoft for making it so I can now have to purchase a separate license. Oh, but now I can lend it to him one time.

Thank you sir. May I have another digital benefit?
 
2013-06-13 03:30:05 PM  

skullkrusher: Egoy3k: Gamers love steam. Microsoft sees steam as a competitor, and copies the steam business model. Gamers hate Xbox one. You can't explain that.

I'm honestly more pissed off about Konami throwing David Hayter under the bus for Keifer farking Sutherland than I am about the Xbox One.

"Oh hey guys we have one of the most iconic video game characters of all time who has been voiced by the same guy since video game characters had voices but you know what lets change it up and get that guy from 24 to do our voices."

/I'll end up getting an Xbox One and a PS4 and probably spend more time gaming on my PC anyway
//seriously Konami you suck

honestly, I don't give fark 1 about always online or inability to sell games or any of that. The super spooky spycam gets me a bit but otherwise, meh. I love me some video games but they aren't such a huge part of my life that selling them and buying used is really all that important. I don't replay games once I finish them and I am a completionist so I only go through a few games a year so, again, meh


On the one hand I can completely understand this on the other a lot opf the people who are upset about this are posting their opining about it from a laptop, tablet or smartphone with a backwards facing camera built in.
 
2013-06-13 03:30:14 PM  

CheatCommando: Aarontology: that's why I play Fallout 3 on several thousand vinyl LP's.

I prefer the less newfangled Edison cylinders.


try gaming on tape drives, it's awesome!
 
2013-06-13 03:30:26 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Does it have electrolytes?


does it contain sodiumbenzoaite ?
 
2013-06-13 03:30:43 PM  
At this point, I believe that Microsoft seems to be down and in need of an ambulance.

/Wii-U Wii-U Wii-U Wii-U...
 
2013-06-13 03:30:45 PM  

remus: But is it Hi Fi?


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-06-13 03:31:41 PM  
i'll stick with my hand crank operated consoles, thank you very much.
 
2013-06-13 03:31:41 PM  

YoOjo: LeoffDaGrate: YoOjo: Video games are for children, drug addicts and other dead wood.
I prefer reading books and doing crosswords, thus indicating to the whole world that I'm not easily fascinated by flashy lights and have some sort of grasp on non-immediate rewards.

Want to know how I know you're lying your ass off?

You're in Fark, in a Video Game thread.

Ha, erm... well...
I used to be a bit of an addict but I managed to stop playing a few years ago. Now I hardly care but the new consoles piqued my interest.
Is there anything on the horizon from the makers of Ico/SotC?


Ico! That's what I meant. I typed Rez in my post.
 
2013-06-13 03:31:42 PM  

maltedmothball: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Does it have electrolytes?

does it contain sodiumbenzoaite ?


That's good?
 
2013-06-13 03:32:29 PM  

Carth: PS4 is cheaper, more powerful and doesn't seem intent on pissing off its customers. The fact anyone is still looking forward to Xbox is proof many gamers are sadists.


Lets not kid ourselves people. Sony WILL find ways to piss off their customers. Count on it, it's the only thing they're consistently good at.

That said, they'd have to do something seriously horrid to get down to MS's current standard. I don't even think another month of PSN downtime would do the job.

/If I get into this console generation I'll probably be going PS4. It's not certain because my PS3 is still going strong and there's a big backlog of games for me to play.
 
2013-06-13 03:32:51 PM  

Egoy3k: skullkrusher: Egoy3k: Gamers love steam. Microsoft sees steam as a competitor, and copies the steam business model. Gamers hate Xbox one. You can't explain that.

I'm honestly more pissed off about Konami throwing David Hayter under the bus for Keifer farking Sutherland than I am about the Xbox One.

"Oh hey guys we have one of the most iconic video game characters of all time who has been voiced by the same guy since video game characters had voices but you know what lets change it up and get that guy from 24 to do our voices."

/I'll end up getting an Xbox One and a PS4 and probably spend more time gaming on my PC anyway
//seriously Konami you suck

honestly, I don't give fark 1 about always online or inability to sell games or any of that. The super spooky spycam gets me a bit but otherwise, meh. I love me some video games but they aren't such a huge part of my life that selling them and buying used is really all that important. I don't replay games once I finish them and I am a completionist so I only go through a few games a year so, again, meh

On the one hand I can completely understand this on the other a lot opf the people who are upset about this are posting their opining about it from a laptop, tablet or smartphone with a backwards facing camera built in.


that isn't always on though - the kinect cam is, isn't it?
 
2013-06-13 03:32:55 PM  

CheatCommando: Aarontology: that's why I play Fallout 3 on several thousand vinyl LP's.

I prefer the less newfangled Edison cylinders.


The latest newfangled Edison Cylinder....
 
2013-06-13 03:33:15 PM  
Everyone concerned about the kinect spycam, it appears to be separate box from the actual console (although a mandatory purchase), why can't you just turn it around to face the wall?  Or just put a pots-it note over the cam? That's what I would do.  My main objection is paying $100 for something that I will just turn to face the wall.
 
2013-06-13 03:33:38 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: But if it wasn't them, it would be someone else.


Hell, Apple's been trying to move away from physical media for quite a while now.  First floppies and now optical drives.  I'll agree with whoever brought up Steam.  I think that's the other think MS looks at and wants to emulate.  While there is a definite shift away from physical media, I don't think we're there yet.
 
2013-06-13 03:33:50 PM  

you are a puppet: YoOjo: LeoffDaGrate: YoOjo: Video games are for children, drug addicts and other dead wood.
I prefer reading books and doing crosswords, thus indicating to the whole world that I'm not easily fascinated by flashy lights and have some sort of grasp on non-immediate rewards.

Want to know how I know you're lying your ass off?

You're in Fark, in a Video Game thread.

Ha, erm... well...
I used to be a bit of an addict but I managed to stop playing a few years ago. Now I hardly care but the new consoles piqued my interest.
Is there anything on the horizon from the makers of Ico/SotC?

Ico! That's what I meant. I typed Rez in my post.


I'd forgotten how much I loved that game, like totally immersed in it loving it... then I saw Vanishing Waves a few nights ago and one character was playing it and I was right back there.
Made my skin tingle.
 
2013-06-13 03:34:10 PM  
Why is this so hard to understand?  Digital means binary, which is 0's and 1's.  We all know this.  So the Xbox 1 is clearly digital while the PS4 is clearly not.  And don't even get me started on the Wii, those aren't even numbers.
 
2013-06-13 03:34:33 PM  
I'm pretty sure it also has tubes while the PS4 is still using dump trucks.
 
2013-06-13 03:34:43 PM  
PS4:

static.giantbomb.com

Wii U:

theawesomer.com

xbone:

fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net
 
Bf+
2013-06-13 03:34:49 PM  
"This is a big change, consumers don't always love change, and there's a lot of education we have to provide to make sure that people understand."

Translation:  Stupid idiots.  We just need to convince them their wrong.
 
2013-06-13 03:34:50 PM  

eddievercetti: Can the XBONE play Laserdiscs?


Everything looks better on Laserdisc!!!
 
2013-06-13 03:34:54 PM  

fawlty: Everyone concerned about the kinect spycam, it appears to be separate box from the actual console (although a mandatory purchase), why can't you just turn it around to face the wall?  Or just put a pots-it note over the cam? That's what I would do.  My main objection is paying $100 for something that I will just turn to face the wall.


If the Kinect is required for use with the XBone, then it will be included with the system. Microsoft would not charge $500 for a game console that would not function without an additional $100 device that is sold separately; doing so would entirely kill the product before launch.
 
2013-06-13 03:35:03 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-13 03:35:07 PM  

fawlty: Everyone concerned about the kinect spycam, it appears to be separate box from the actual console (although a mandatory purchase), why can't you just turn it around to face the wall?  Or just put a pots-it note over the cam? That's what I would do.  My main objection is paying $100 for something that I will just turn to face the wall.


Something like this would likely happen.


/fark seriously needs to increase the size limits for .gifs
 
2013-06-13 03:35:49 PM  

Flappyhead: Surool: Superjew: My theory is they're actually TRYING to make every mistake possible ahead of time so they can release something only halfway lame and redeem themselves at the last moment.

I'm starting to think this too. I can't imagine that with this many people you could screw up every single point of a product specification, launch, and damage control without it being planned this way in advance.

 Dude, did you miss the PS3 launch?


Good point. When MS can screw up a product launch worse than the PS3, you can easily believe this was intentional.
 
2013-06-13 03:36:21 PM  

sid244: eddievercetti: Can the XBONE play Laserdiscs?

Everything looks better on Laserdisc!!!


24.media.tumblr.com
 
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