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(ESPN)   After last's nights triple OT, will the NBA get the memo and keep this one within 20 points? Will the finals MVP be the other Cleveland castoff? Will Wade be the hero since the Heat don't lose 2 in a row? Game 4, 9pm EDT   (espn.go.com ) divider line
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2013-06-13 11:44:45 PM  

Taylor Mental: James gonna play all 48 mins?


Yes - except for the 5-6 minutes he sat on the bench in the 4th...
 
2013-06-13 11:46:06 PM  
BTW, I appreciate how Miller didn't really do anything...except create some f*cking space on the floor. Which, y'know, is essential.

Sad it took Spo until Game 4 to realize that sh*t, but whatever. 2-2, that's all that matters.
 
2013-06-13 11:47:23 PM  

my lip balm addiction: Taylor Mental: James gonna play all 48 mins?

Yes - except for the 5-6 minutes he sat on the bench in the 4th...


And the time at the end of the first. It's pretty obvious when he's not on the floor. Although Dwyane Wade was actually productive tonight, so I suppose it was less obvious than usual.
 
2013-06-13 11:48:00 PM  
I think we all know the highlight of tonight's game

Man of Steel: Link
 
2013-06-13 11:49:17 PM  

IAmRight: Leader O'Cola: Just like the clarification I made before your post doesn't matter to the LeJock lickers

The clarification that you're a moron citing hypotheticals. Traveling is based on steps, not on how much distance you cover, as anyone who has watched basketball for more than 10 seconds can tell you.


I love how all of the Spurs fans, or Heat haters, say the refs were giving the game to the Heat when the Heat had more fouls called on them.

And watch the response to this will be that the Heat got the benefit of the "important" calls.
 
2013-06-13 11:50:38 PM  

IAmRight: Leader O'Cola: Just like the clarification I made before your post doesn't matter to the LeJock lickers

The clarification that you're a moron citing hypotheticals. Traveling is based on steps, not on how much distance you cover, as anyone who has watched basketball for more than 10 seconds can tell you.


No, rolling over after sliding with the ball is {supposed to be} traveling. In the NBA.  This is a simple fact.  Read your rulebook.  Assuming your LeJock sticky fingers don't ruin the pages.

I admitted I oversimplified my complaint.  You obfuscate the first part of my comment with the more important second.

Your turn to admit it was a shiat nocall.

/ more likely you'll admit your carrying LeJock's buttbaby.
// you troll.
 
2013-06-13 11:51:51 PM  

IAmRight: BTW, I appreciate how Miller didn't really do anything...except create some f*cking space on the floor. Which, y'know, is essential.

Sad it took Spo until Game 4 to realize that sh*t, but whatever. 2-2, that's all that matters.


Yeah when the Heat are depending on Miller's scoring to keep them in the game they are in trouble. Not to say Miller isn't a good player, but on this team points from him should be an added bonus, not something they are depending on to keep them in the game.
 
2013-06-13 11:52:28 PM  
Deck collapse in Miami. 24 people pretending to be Heat fans injured.
 
2013-06-13 11:53:37 PM  

Leader O'Cola: No, rolling over after sliding with the ball is {supposed to be} traveling. In the NBA.  This is a simple fact.  Read your rulebook.  Assuming your LeJock sticky fingers don't ruin the pages.


Feel free to point out where it says that in the rulebook. It certainly doesn't say anything about it in the online version.
 
2013-06-13 11:54:42 PM  
Catch you all in the NHL thread; maybe that game will last until Game 5 of the NBA finals
 
2013-06-13 11:55:49 PM  

TheManofPA: Catch you all in the NHL thread; maybe that game will last until Game 5 of the NBA finals


It's the end of the week. I can fit a little golf in...
 
2013-06-13 11:55:58 PM  

ongbok: IAmRight: Leader O'Cola: Just like the clarification I made before your post doesn't matter to the LeJock lickers

The clarification that you're a moron citing hypotheticals. Traveling is based on steps, not on how much distance you cover, as anyone who has watched basketball for more than 10 seconds can tell you.

I love how all of the Spurs fans, or Heat haters, say the refs were giving the game to the Heat when the Heat had more fouls called on them.

And watch the response to this will be that the Heat got the benefit of the "important" calls.


I love how trolls ignore team's general philosophy and style of play

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/team/_/stat/defense-per-game
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/team/_/stat/offfense-per-game


Notice a general trend?
 
2013-06-13 11:56:52 PM  

ongbok: Yeah when the Heat are depending on Miller's scoring to keep them in the game they are in trouble. Not to say Miller isn't a good player, but on this team points from him should be an added bonus, not something they are depending on to keep them in the game.


Miller played some good defense, too, though. Except for the time when he and Chalmers couldn't figure out who they were covering and gave Parker an easy drive. But yeah, even when he's not doing anything...you notice his man doesn't go leave him to help on cutters. It was very important to have him on the court.

Especially since no one's worried about Battier hitting shots anymore.

/Spurs "Big 3" gets 40...Ginobili is done, man. I hope.
 
2013-06-13 11:58:49 PM  

Leader O'Cola: Notice a general trend?


A) Both of your links go to the same place
B) Both teams were very similar in numbers?
 
2013-06-13 11:59:05 PM  

IAmRight: Leader O'Cola: No, rolling over after sliding with the ball is {supposed to be} traveling. In the NBA.  This is a simple fact.  Read your rulebook.  Assuming your LeJock sticky fingers don't ruin the pages.

Feel free to point out where it says that in the rulebook. It certainly doesn't say anything about it in the online version.


from nba.com


"To start a dribble after establishing a pivot foot, the ball must be released from the player's hand before his pivot foot leaves the floor or he has committed a traveling violation. A player who receives the ball while moving is allowed a two count rhythm but must release the ball prior to the third step touching the floor. When ending his dribble a player may use a two count rhythm in coming to a stop, passing or shooting. A player who fall s to the floor while holding the ball or while coming to a stop may not gain an advantage by rolling on the floor. A player who attempts a shot may not be the first to touch the ball if it fails to touch the backboard, rim or another player. If a player comes to a stop on the count of one when both feet are on the floor or touch the floor simultaneously, he may pivot using either foot as his pivot. If he alights with both feet he must release the ball before either foot touches the floor. If a player has one foot on the floor or lands with one foot first to the floor, he may only pivot with that foot. Once that foot is lifted from the floor to shoot or pass it may not return until the ball is released. If a player jumps off one foot on the count of one he may land with both feet simultaneously for count two. In this situation, the player may not pivot with either foot and if one or both feet leave the floor the ball must be released before either return to the floor. When a player gathers the ball he may not step consecutively with the same foot, as in a hopping motion."


NOW STFU AND DIAF , trollcloacastain.
 
2013-06-13 11:59:55 PM  
http://www.nba.com/nba101/misunderstood_0708.html  forgot the link

facepalm at me.
 
2013-06-14 12:00:30 AM  

IAmRight: Leader O'Cola: Notice a general trend?

A) Both of your links go to the same place
B) Both teams were very similar in numbers?


a) consistency, how the fark does it work.
b) not at all


STFU AND DIAF.
 
2013-06-14 12:01:26 AM  
I enjoyed all the naked woman pics!!!
Go Dolphins!!!
 
2013-06-14 12:04:07 AM  

Leader O'Cola: A player who fall s to the floor while holding the ball or while coming to a stop may not gain an advantage by rolling on the floor.


Gonna have to show that he gained an advantage. Kinda stupid to claim that you can call a timeout into the floor and that you're not allowed to show the refs the signal. But you've kinda been stupid about the whole thing anyway.
 
2013-06-14 12:04:24 AM  
Look, the Spurs were never going to win this game.  No use crying about it, just accept the fact that this is going 7 games.  Enjoy the ride, it will be over soon.  The NBA has already picked the winner.
 
2013-06-14 12:05:10 AM  
This was a weird game. The Heat won with midrange jumpers from the big three. Something the Spurs have been begging them to try all series. Until now, the Heat proven completely unable to capitalize on open looks from 15+, especially Wade and Lebron -- but they got it today.

So, what happens next is hard to predict... Wade exploded but that probably wont happen again. Bosh was efficient, but he's been inconsistent. And Lebron hit everything from midrange but still didn't get to the line, how often is that a wining strategy?
 
2013-06-14 12:05:33 AM  
I'm pretty red-assed at that display of bed-shiatting from Ginobili. Dude has been a liability all series. Except for a couple dunks in game 3, he's been pretty bad since round 2. I'm ready to give his minutes to Neal and for him to be on a very short leash.
 
2013-06-14 12:07:57 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: drew46n2: TheManofPA: Damn, this means that Game 6 will be going on the same time as the next Team USA game.

Nobody cares

No, you specifically don't care. Sorry that we like better sports than you do.



Actually I do kind of care about it I'm just in the midst of a post-loss meltdown. Don't mind me.
 
2013-06-14 12:08:32 AM  

Leader O'Cola: a) consistency, how the fark does it work.
b) not at all


Since you can't link:

Miami has averaged 24.1 FTs/game, and surrendered 24.1 FTs/game
San Antonio has averaged 20.2 FTs/game, and surrendered 19.6 FTs/game

So that does a good job explaining Miami's 17 FTs...what about San Antonio's 31?

/refs simply called more fouls on whoever was ahead
 
2013-06-14 12:10:16 AM  

TeamEd: This was a weird game. The Heat won with midrange jumpers from the big three. Something the Spurs have been begging them to try all series. Until now, the Heat proven completely unable to capitalize on open looks from 15+, especially Wade and Lebron -- but they got it today.

So, what happens next is hard to predict... Wade exploded but that probably wont happen again. Bosh was efficient, but he's been inconsistent. And Lebron hit everything from midrange but still didn't get to the line, how often is that a wining strategy?


They WERE the best midrange team in the league this season. Just haven't made their shots from there until this game, despite being given those shots.

TeamEd: And Lebron hit everything from midrange but still didn't get to the line, how often is that a wining strategy?


No one gets to the line against the Spurs.
 
2013-06-14 12:19:12 AM  
BTW, I like how people are saying that Gary Neal needs more minutes in place of Ginobili...BTW, Neal played 31 minutes, 5th most of anyone on the Spurs (and within two minutes of 2nd behind Danny Green).
 
2013-06-14 12:44:43 AM  

Di Atribe: JerseyTim: Little Matador bringing it again tonight! Suck it, haters!

Aw dammit. I missed it!? I wonder if it'll be on the internet tomorrow. Hm.....


He's been singing every game since the Heat brought out a li'l kid. Pretty lame to bring out the mayor as his hype man, but they're really playing up the small-market angle. You'll see him Sunday if you watch the game.

/his Game 3 performance was better than his Game 4 performance, too

TheManofPA: JerseyTim: TheManofPA: I like the power beats-LBJ commercial. As hoops commercials go, it's a pretty good one.

I like how he's not hiding his hairline with a headband.

Honestly, LBJ should start going more for the Duncan look and just keep it short/tight. He could pull it off.


He wears the headband because he's worn a headband his entire career, all the way back to HS. And wearing a headband with a shaved head looks even stupider.

kingflower: Refs are going to make sure that the Heat win tonight.  The script says that Miami wins by 9, and shoots 14 more free throws than the Spurs.


Got the FTs backwards. But you're a whiny Jordan fan, so that's to be expected. Jordan would've gotten 70 FTs on his own, of course.
 
2013-06-14 01:00:10 AM  

IAmRight: Jordan would've gotten 70 FTs on his own, of course.


I like when people act all sarcastic about this.  If you had ever read any of the college textbooks written by Nike University, you would know that Michael Jordan personally asked the league to scrutinize his play.  Michael Jordan played by the honor code.  If he traveled, then he would admit this.  He did not want to be treated like a superstar.  He wanted to be treated like a human being.  That's all Michael asked for.
 
2013-06-14 01:31:31 AM  
IAmRight:
No one gets to the line against the Spurs.

*sniff*
 
2013-06-14 09:34:16 AM  

Leader O'Cola: A player who fall s to the floor while holding the ball or while coming to a stop may not gain an advantage by rolling on the floor.


I'm glad you looked that up, it's a rule I was not familiar with. Still, given the number of times I've seen players on the ground roll to call timeout and not be called for travel, I have to think that the rule book is ruling out rolling down the court sideways.
 
2013-06-14 11:27:18 AM  

Taylor Mental: IAmRight:
No one gets to the line against the Spurs.

*sniff*


Not complaining. Pointing out that you can't expect people to get to the line a ton against the Spurs because it's virtually impossible. James and Wade were attacking as much as anyone does last night, and shot 4 FTs apiece. The Spurs do a good job of not getting called for fouls and not doing the stupid things that Wade and Chalmers sometimes do (letting guys get by you and slapping at the ball around the player), and they don't take many of the intentional fouls to prevent basketball that the Bulls do.
 
2013-06-14 11:27:54 AM  

dj_spanmaster: Still, given the number of times I've seen players on the ground roll to call timeout and not be called for travel, I have to think that the rule book is ruling out rolling down the court sideways.


Which, honestly, should be encouraged. That would be hilarious.
 
2013-06-14 12:38:34 PM  
Please note, the fans of these teams have absolutely no right to complain about the refs ever.

1) Boston Celtics.
2) LA Lakers
3) SA Spurs
4) Chicago Bulls
5) Miami Heat
6) NY Knicks.

You guys make the whiny middle-class-white men seem like the epitome of stoicism.
 
2013-06-14 03:31:42 PM  

Komplex: Please note, the fans of these teams have absolutely no right to complain about the refs ever.


Who was complaining?
 
2013-06-14 05:12:47 PM  
Ah, never mind, Komplex, now that I've gone through the whole thread, you were clearly referring to the number of "Spurs fans" (mostly actually fans of other teams that just want the Heat to lose) whining about the refereeing in a game because calls went both ways instead of only against the Heat like they're supposed to to prove the league isn't rigged.

Because when two superstars aggressively go to the rim over and over and come away with four whole FTs each, that's proof that the refs are giving them the game.

BTW, if you think Van Gundy's in the tank for the Heat, you're retarded. How many times do they show Tony Parker's sometimes-multiple-flops-in-a-defensive-possession plays? No, but every time any Miami player falls down, we get a slo-mo shot with Van Gundy most likely declaring it a flop. Of course, Neal apparently wasn't flopping according to Van Gundy (which honestly, he was selling the call, just like, say, Battier, though Ginobili pretty much cemented that call by pushing through with his elbow and full arm).
 
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