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2013-06-13 11:02:23 AM  
Um, it was just a cat.  Relax.

assets.nydailynews.com
 
2013-06-13 11:07:17 AM  
I don't know... it's like the damned thing has a mind of its own
 
2013-06-13 11:12:15 AM  
By the time I knocked on their door to ask permission to retrieve it they'd discovered the drone and were holding it captive under a pot in the kitchen.

That's funny.
 
2013-06-13 11:57:47 AM  
You know, there is a simple solution to this...


img76.exs.cx
 
2013-06-13 11:58:56 AM  
Another easy idea comes to mind...


encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
 
2013-06-13 12:04:08 PM  
nets, blankets, sheets, towels
take it in the house, sell it on ebay
if he shows up, shoot him or have him arrested for stalking
tell the police that he was taking pictures of your naked kids

in the very least, before returning it to him, break all the parts into little tiny pieces with a hammer
 
2013-06-13 12:48:22 PM  
 
2013-06-13 12:50:46 PM  

blatz514: Um, it was just a cat.  Relax.

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Pussycopter?
 
2013-06-13 12:50:59 PM  
 
2013-06-13 12:51:10 PM  
Yes, we need anti-drone technology.  Oh wait, I already have curtains and blinds that render this problem moot.
 
2013-06-13 12:53:00 PM  
Directional EMP's...anyone know where to get one?
 
2013-06-13 12:53:58 PM  

blatz514: Um, it was just a cat.  Relax.

[assets.nydailynews.com image 635x413]



I'd almost forgotten about that guy.  One of my favorite internet moments ever.
 
2013-06-13 12:54:31 PM  

debug: Yes, we need anti-drone technology.  Oh wait, I already have curtains and blinds that render this problem moot.


Do you intend to always sit in your house with the curtains closed? Even if you, theoretically, have a large enough yard that you wouldn't normally need to worry about people looking in?
 
2013-06-13 12:55:09 PM  
Close the damned blinds.


Or use an airsoft/bb gun to destroy one or more of the rotors and capture the enemy aircraft; or a pool skimmer if its close enough.
 
2013-06-13 12:59:24 PM  
That's illegal?
 
2013-06-13 01:00:49 PM  

graeth: Close the damned blinds.


Or use an airsoft/bb gun to destroy one or more of the rotors and capture the enemy aircraft; or a pool skimmer if its close enough.


This. I'd love a nice flying target for my airsoft gun.

If you live in the country, a shotgun would be even more entertaining.

/oh damn man sorry, I was just cleaning it and it went off.
 
2013-06-13 01:01:05 PM  
I am not a lawyer but I am pretty sure I read somewhere that he actually does not have the right to fly the drone over someone's property if the flight path is below the height of the highest part of a person's house.
 
2013-06-13 01:03:49 PM  
...ask him to not fly his drone near our home. The man insisted that it is legal for him to fly an aerial drone over our yard and adjacent to our windows. He noted that the drone has a camera, which transmits images he viewed through a set of glasses. He purported to be doing "research". We are extremely concerned, as he could very easily be a criminal who plans to break into our house or a peeping-tom."

Not to sound internet tough-guy but if it were my house the guy would be pulling that drone out of his arse.
 
2013-06-13 01:04:36 PM  

Mock26: I am not a lawyer but I am pretty sure I read somewhere that he actually does not have the right to fly the drone over someone's property if the flight path is below the height of the highest part of a person's house.


This makes too much sense.
 
2013-06-13 01:05:09 PM  

dahmers love zombie: http://www.instructables.com/id/make-a-microwave-gun-HERF-gun/?ALLSTE P S


Nice.

http://www.angryflower.com/microw.html
 
2013-06-13 01:06:35 PM  
Somebody needs to come up with a pneumatic firearm that shoots a nice tight pattern of BBs. I'm thinking something in the realm of a paintball gun. Hmmm.
 
2013-06-13 01:07:18 PM  
The man insisted that it is legal for him to fly an aerial drone over our yard and adjacent to our windows.

I insisted back that it was legal for me to shoot airsoft rounds out my window and invoke "finders keepers" when the dead drone crashed onto my property.
 
2013-06-13 01:07:27 PM  

dahmers love zombie: http://www.instructables.com/id/make-a-microwave-gun-HERF-gun/?ALLSTE P S


Now the NSA know's you posses plans to build a Microwave gun..
 
2013-06-13 01:07:59 PM  
This is going to be a constitutional challenge one day.
 
2013-06-13 01:08:47 PM  
If you're not doing anything wrong, then you have nothing to hide.

amidoinitrite?
 
2013-06-13 01:09:17 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I don't know... it's like the damned thing has a mind of its own


I tried that excuse with my penis once....
 
2013-06-13 01:09:18 PM  
So is every un-manned flying object a "drone" now, or is that simply a toy helicopter with a camera on it?
 
2013-06-13 01:10:21 PM  
TENNIS RACQUET
 
2013-06-13 01:10:51 PM  
Just toss a bola at it.
 
2013-06-13 01:11:17 PM  
That's what all the cute young feds say subby.
 
2013-06-13 01:11:38 PM  
One word.  Shotgun.  Just be sure to choose the legal target (that's the drone, not the operator).
 
2013-06-13 01:12:22 PM  

remus: You know, there is a simple solution to this...


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That thing looks pretty scary and makes me feel icky, we should probably ban them
 
2013-06-13 01:15:10 PM  

TwowheelinTim: Somebody needs to come up with a pneumatic firearm that shoots a nice tight pattern of BBs. I'm thinking something in the realm of a paintball gun. Hmmm.


Seriously?
Must still be in the junior paintball players category
 
2013-06-13 01:15:27 PM  

TwowheelinTim: Somebody needs to come up with a pneumatic firearm that shoots a nice tight pattern of BBs. I'm thinking something in the realm of a paintball gun. Hmmm.


Just get a Daisy... pump it 20 or 30 times... and pour a bunch of BB's down the barrel.

This is also how you make pigeons go away.
 
2013-06-13 01:15:54 PM  

wambu: Mock26: I am not a lawyer but I am pretty sure I read somewhere that he actually does not have the right to fly the drone over someone's property if the flight path is below the height of the highest part of a person's house.

This makes too much sense.


Sorry.  I will try not to let it happen again.

Also, I was just looking at the FAA website and by their rulings pilots flying any aircraft have to remain at least 500 feet from people or buildings (except when landing and taking off).
 
2013-06-13 01:17:42 PM  

ttc2301: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I don't know... it's like the damned thing has a mind of its own

I tried that excuse with my penis once....


What man hasn't?
 
2013-06-13 01:18:18 PM  

DerAppie: debug: Yes, we need anti-drone technology.  Oh wait, I already have curtains and blinds that render this problem moot.

Do you intend to always sit in your house with the curtains closed? Even if you, theoretically, have a large enough yard that you wouldn't normally need to worry about people looking in?


DroneShield. Hopefully DroneShield 2.0 will combine detection with some kind of surface-to-air missile.
 
2013-06-13 01:19:30 PM  
I'm surprised I haven't heard of paparazzi using these.
 
2013-06-13 01:21:02 PM  

DerAppie: debug: Yes, we need anti-drone technology.  Oh wait, I already have curtains and blinds that render this problem moot.

Do you intend to always sit in your house with the curtains closed? Even if you, theoretically, have a large enough yard that you wouldn't normally need to worry about people looking in?


They are currently closed almost all the time (I have a plasma tv) and when they aren't, I'm not walking about naked in front of the windows anyway.  Feel free to fly by with your drone.  I'm sure you'll get some great shots of me sitting on the couch watching tv for about 30 seconds before I close the blinds.
 
2013-06-13 01:23:01 PM  
I think drone-peeping is for your more adventurous voyeur--the technological equivalent of the guy who sits directly behind you on an empty bus and leans over your shoulder. Part of the thrill for him is getting caught, or the possibility of getting caught.

Meanwhile, as you're loading up the shotgun and waiting for his drone to recharge, the kid who you paid to water the plants while you went on vacation last summer is watching you in HD from six different camera angles, courtesy of cameras the size of buttons that you won't find until you replace the HVAC system and probably won't even recognize then.

Am I wrong, Fark? Because it seems to me that these days if you've got $50 and two minutes in a room by yourself, you can basically turn someone's house into your own private reality show, with pretty much zero risk of detection.

Just sayin'. And no, this isn't my kink (I told you guys about the sheep thing), but it astonishes me that we don't hear more about it, and the only reason I can think of is that the people doing it are virtually never getting caught.
 
2013-06-13 01:23:38 PM  

graeth: TwowheelinTim: Somebody needs to come up with a pneumatic firearm that shoots a nice tight pattern of BBs. I'm thinking something in the realm of a paintball gun. Hmmm.

Seriously?
Must still be in the junior paintball players category


Nope, I played once back in the early eighties. Sounds like you may very well have a better idea with your condescending attitude. So please share your vast storehouse of knowledge instead of being an asshole.

I prefer smoke and a loud noise when I squeeze the trigger, but in this instance the neighbors might not appreciate it.
 
2013-06-13 01:23:54 PM  
Please please please somebody fly a drone over my house. Please! I have a wide variety of solutions I'd like to try, many of which have been mentioned in this thread.
 
2013-06-13 01:24:04 PM  
It should be relatively simple to create a small turret that will automatically cover a drone that gets too close in silly string.
 
2013-06-13 01:25:47 PM  
Luckily my pool skimmer net has a 16' handle so if it can see into my window, I can snag it.  Finders keepers!
 
2013-06-13 01:27:49 PM  
 
2013-06-13 01:29:33 PM  
This is a job for a pressure washer.

/Or other water spraying device
 
2013-06-13 01:30:01 PM  
Why stalk people when the internet lets you view the cams nubile womens gladly put in their own bedrooms and then do awesome naked things in front of?
 
2013-06-13 01:30:52 PM  
While I'd love to use my skeet skills on one of those (if I had such a douchey neighbor), in an actual neighborhood that's not really responsible.

I do wonder if that wasp spray that shoots 25' or so would fark up one of those things. A garden hose very likely would.
 
2013-06-13 01:31:22 PM  
i.imgur.com

Effective anti-drone protection.
 
2013-06-13 01:32:07 PM  
Ah yes, another misleading headline that doesn't reflect the article
Becoming quite the norm
 
2013-06-13 01:33:21 PM  
Um curtains?  You know those things they invented like thousands of years ago to prevent things like light, wind, prying eyes from getting through?  Or you could be like me and not care if someone wants to look at your fat arse waddling around the house naked.
 
2013-06-13 01:40:17 PM  
We use a couple for property managers and realtors.

I would say if you are dumb enough to shoot one down, go ahead and punch your state into
http://www.criminalpropertydamage.com/
I'm sure our attorney would love to make some extra bucks.

And if you're even dumber?  Check this one out too.
http://assault.lawyers.com/Assault-and-Battery.html
 
2013-06-13 01:46:01 PM  

akula: While I'd love to use my skeet skills on one of those (if I had such a douchey neighbor), in an actual neighborhood that's not really responsible.

I do wonder if that wasp spray that shoots 25' or so would fark up one of those things. A garden hose very likely would.


I'm wondering if some rock salt instead of buck shot might do the trick?
 
2013-06-13 01:48:31 PM  
OK, these drones you talking about... where can I get one?
 
2013-06-13 01:53:19 PM  
Engage whisper mode.

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-06-13 01:53:27 PM  
Leaf blower.
 
2013-06-13 01:53:27 PM  

remus: akula: While I'd love to use my skeet skills on one of those (if I had such a douchey neighbor), in an actual neighborhood that's not really responsible.

I do wonder if that wasp spray that shoots 25' or so would fark up one of those things. A garden hose very likely would.

I'm wondering if some rock salt instead of buck shot might do the trick?


Could be, but I was even thinking something like #9 bird shot. Over 20-30 yards it would definitely have enough punch to rip one of those to shreds. Still, the noise and potential landing area of the shot is not under my control, which is enough for me to not want to do it. A garden hose, on the other hand, would likely be effective at downing the thing. Depending on how close it is my pressure washer might well cut the thing in half.

ZzeusS: We use a couple for property managers and realtors.

I would say if you are dumb enough to shoot one down, go ahead and punch your state into
http://www.criminalpropertydamage.com/
I'm sure our attorney would love to make some extra bucks.

And if you're even dumber?  Check this one out too.
http://assault.lawyers.com/Assault-and-Battery.html


If you have control over the property you're surveilling, you're fine. Nobody's talking about such measures taken against drones that remain over your own property. When you're hovering around somebody else's property without authorization you deserve what you receive.
 
2013-06-13 01:53:46 PM  

ZzeusS: We use a couple for property managers and realtors.

I would say if you are dumb enough to shoot one down, go ahead and punch your state into
http://www.criminalpropertydamage.com/
I'm sure our attorney would love to make some extra bucks.

And if you're even dumber?  Check this one out too.
http://assault.lawyers.com/Assault-and-Battery.html


If it comes onto my private property I'll do as I damn well please to it, and if you decide to sue or press charges, that's a two way street.  Invasion of privacy, criminal trespass, disturbing the peace, harassment, etc.

However, as a geeky type, my solution to this is much more... eloquent.  I have a lot of RC gear.  I also have an unlocked RF band transceiver connected to a laptop.  I can scan, find and jam your control frequency.  (yes, even the hoppers)  Meanwhile, while you can't control it, your drone is going to have an accident with my drone, which just happens to be made entirely of aluminum and aimed directly at your floating photography platform.

The law hasn't been decided just yet, but it's entirely likely that trespass will be applied to the operator of the drone.  We'll see.

/I fly, drive, etc a lot of RC vehicles, including some drones.
//never ever on private property without permission
///you're a coont.
 
2013-06-13 01:57:31 PM  

ZzeusS: We use a couple for property managers and realtors.

I would say if you are dumb enough to shoot one down, go ahead and punch your state into
http://www.criminalpropertydamage.com/
I'm sure our attorney would love to make some extra bucks.

And if you're even dumber?  Check this one out too.
http://assault.lawyers.com/Assault-and-Battery.html


Yeah, you sound tough, but if you use one of your drones to spy on me I get to shoot it.  And you will never prove it was me.
 
2013-06-13 01:58:34 PM  
Just tell him you lost control over your 12 ga. shotgun and it accidentially shot his toy down.
 
2013-06-13 01:58:57 PM  

traylor: OK, these drones you talking about... where can I get one?


Just disable your ad blocker, then pop in and out of this thread a few time.
 
2013-06-13 02:00:11 PM  

akula: remus: akula: While I'd love to use my skeet skills on one of those (if I had such a douchey neighbor), in an actual neighborhood that's not really responsible.

I do wonder if that wasp spray that shoots 25' or so would fark up one of those things. A garden hose very likely would.

I'm wondering if some rock salt instead of buck shot might do the trick?

Could be, but I was even thinking something like #9 bird shot. Over 20-30 yards it would definitely have enough punch to rip one of those to shreds. Still, the noise and potential landing area of the shot is not under my control, which is enough for me to not want to do it. A garden hose, on the other hand, would likely be effective at downing the thing. Depending on how close it is my pressure washer might well cut the thing in half.

ZzeusS: We use a couple for property managers and realtors.

I would say if you are dumb enough to shoot one down, go ahead and punch your state into
http://www.criminalpropertydamage.com/
I'm sure our attorney would love to make some extra bucks.

And if you're even dumber?  Check this one out too.
http://assault.lawyers.com/Assault-and-Battery.html

If you have control over the property you're surveilling, you're fine. Nobody's talking about such measures taken against drones that remain over your own property. When you're hovering around somebody else's property without authorization you deserve what you receive.


You can get rubber shot that should be just the ticket.  Just break the props and bye bye.

Or - Anything that can throw a loop of string or wire across it would foul the props.
 
2013-06-13 02:03:46 PM  

noitsnot: You can get rubber shot that should be just the ticket.  Just break the props and bye bye.

Or - Anything that can throw a loop of string or wire across it would foul the props.


Heck, even a snakeshot load out of something like a .38spl would be sufficient. But again, if the trajectory would have pellets leaving your own yard I'd recommend against it. Wire or some kind of net, though, that would be quite effective. I have a travel laundry sack that is plastic mesh; it would jam those props solid. Then I can introduce it to Mr. Sledgehammer.
 
2013-06-13 02:04:14 PM  
Couldn't a pointer laser kill the camera?
 
2013-06-13 02:04:22 PM  
Need some new laws on these things. $100,000 and 10 yrs sounds like a good start.
 
2013-06-13 02:05:17 PM  
butterfly nets.
then toss it in a microwave
 
2013-06-13 02:06:30 PM  
It's a shame he's using a quad copter like a total noob. He should at least be using a decent Blade copter with pitch control. Geez.
 
2013-06-13 02:09:14 PM  
What's with all this ITG talk in here?  There are simpler solutions to this mess.

If anyone peeps in my windows with a spy drone, they're going to see a pasty white nerd doing such horrifying things with oatmeal, lube, animal crackers and a life sized cardboard cutout of George C. Scott that they'll never want to look in anyone's windows again.
 
2013-06-13 02:11:05 PM  

TwowheelinTim: Somebody needs to come up with a pneumatic firearm that shoots a nice tight pattern of BBs. I'm thinking something in the realm of a paintball gun. Hmmm.


so a shotgun with rock salt?
TADA
 
2013-06-13 02:12:49 PM  
Silly String would probably throw the rotors off-balance enough to cause maneuverability issues.
 
2013-06-13 02:13:00 PM  

lewismarktwo: ZzeusS: We use a couple for property managers and realtors.

I would say if you are dumb enough to shoot one down, go ahead and punch your state into
http://www.criminalpropertydamage.com/
I'm sure our attorney would love to make some extra bucks.

And if you're even dumber?  Check this one out too.
http://assault.lawyers.com/Assault-and-Battery.html

Yeah, you sound tough, but if you use one of your drones to spy on me I get to shoot it.  And you will never prove it was me.


strangely enough
if they prove that it was you, by using their spy video/pictures, you get to subpoena all of their digital records, because you know, you have to prove that they have other illegal pictures of you ...

and with the pic, they incriminate themselves ...
LOL
 
2013-06-13 02:13:56 PM  

theusercomponent: Silly String would probably throw the rotors off-balance enough to cause maneuverability issues.


and crashing
 
2013-06-13 02:16:20 PM  
No need to get all ITG on this. A lightweight net with some fishing weights on the corners would do the trick. Just throw it at the offending 'copter and it will tangle up the blades, taking it out cleanly without damaging it (much - most 'copters of this type have folding blades.)

Want something to take one down at some distance? Maybe use one of these.

Now, as far as I'm concerned, if the thing lands on my property it's mine. I could be nice about it and let you have it back if you weren't / aren't being a dick about it, but if you go there... *you* explain to the nice sheriff what you were doing with said camera drone. Yeah, go ahead, I'll wait.
 
2013-06-13 02:16:30 PM  
If it's flying at window height, just throw a handful of gravel up.  Those little plastic blades will bust up or it will lose enough control that it will come down.  No need to shoot it down with a shotgun.  Grab your kiddo's nerf football.  If you still feel the urge to be all ITG take it to a controled range where it doesn't matter if you want to pump deer slugs into the thing.
 
2013-06-13 02:17:37 PM  
Rule 34: www.neighbordronecam.com see what you have been missing (NSFW) 18 and over only
 
2013-06-13 02:17:53 PM  

ColSanders: Engage whisper mode.

[BlueThunder.jpg]


/satisfied
 
2013-06-13 02:19:00 PM  
What "defense" is required, other than a steady hand and a BB gun? If it's operating in my yard below my roofline and I cannot see the operator, I have every right to assume that it's trespassing and, yes, I'll be happy to blow it out of the air.

One of two things will occur - either the operator will show up and complain, at which point I will have a face and a name to attach to the erstwhile trespasser and I can deal with it from there, or the operator won't show up, at which point the "drone" goes in the trash.

 If it's higher than the roofline, then I call the cops - I live near an airport.
 
2013-06-13 02:19:31 PM  
And another idea...

img134.imageshack.us

Relax, it's just a pellet gun. Probably costs more than the hovering drone.
 
2013-06-13 02:21:57 PM  

Loadmaster: Relax, it's just a pellet gun. Probably costs more than the hovering drone.


Somebody put a lot of useless crap on a pellet gun. With all that weight on there it would be pretty hard to actually hit anything with it too.
 
2013-06-13 02:25:45 PM  
Some of these operate on the 2.4 GHz WiFi band. Engage countermeasures: a WiFi jammer. 10 watts ought to do it.
 
2013-06-13 02:26:49 PM  

akula: noitsnot: You can get rubber shot that should be just the ticket.  Just break the props and bye bye.

Or - Anything that can throw a loop of string or wire across it would foul the props.

Heck, even a snakeshot load out of something like a .38spl would be sufficient. But again, if the trajectory would have pellets leaving your own yard I'd recommend against it. Wire or some kind of net, though, that would be quite effective. I have a travel laundry sack that is plastic mesh; it would jam those props solid. Then I can introduce it to Mr. Sledgehammer.


I was thinking, what about a paintball gun that fired ice? Not sure how possible that would be, but the evidence would melt pretty quickly.
 
2013-06-13 02:27:46 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-13 02:29:45 PM  

remus: Another easy idea comes to mind...


[encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 259x194]


For the drone or the operator?  In this case, both answers are acceptable to me.
 
2013-06-13 02:33:26 PM  
If you're going to go hardcore, do it right.  Flame thrower...  I, myself, prefer to keep it simple - throw a pile of loose yarn or string at it - free 10 second aerobatic display followed by the most satisfying crash you'll ever purposely cause in your life!
 
2013-06-13 02:34:14 PM  

Loadmaster: And another idea...

[img134.imageshack.us image 422x356]

Relax, it's just a pellet gun. Probably costs more than the hovering drone.


Why do you even need a tactical light on that?  Also, you might as well use an airsoft rifle.  It'll take down those drones fast.

ecx.images-amazon.com
about $54 on Amazon.
 
2013-06-13 02:35:28 PM  
Come to town, operate cheap drones in an anonymous, offensive, manner.  Have drone-killer black box for sale to rubes.  Move on to next town (profit).

/real items won't fly - they'll creep into position on little gecko-like feet...
//until then?  Rocket nets (no reason to harm resalable/ransom-able equipment)
 
2013-06-13 02:36:43 PM  
Any drone flying over my airspace will be terminated.
 
2013-06-13 02:37:26 PM  

Gabrielmot: akula: noitsnot: You can get rubber shot that should be just the ticket.  Just break the props and bye bye.

Or - Anything that can throw a loop of string or wire across it would foul the props.

Heck, even a snakeshot load out of something like a .38spl would be sufficient. But again, if the trajectory would have pellets leaving your own yard I'd recommend against it. Wire or some kind of net, though, that would be quite effective. I have a travel laundry sack that is plastic mesh; it would jam those props solid. Then I can introduce it to Mr. Sledgehammer.

I was thinking, what about a paintball gun that fired ice? Not sure how possible that would be, but the evidence would melt pretty quickly.


Just fire paintballs.  In most places, that's not illegal.  It'll be more than enough to down the drone.

Keep in mind guys, most of these drones are operating within a hair of their maximum lifting weight.  It doesn't take a whole lot to knock them down.

A string with a fishing weight on it is more than enough in most cases.  Anything that hits even just one rotor will stop it cold, and the drone will crash shortly.

Also, these things are not cheap, the ones used for photography are 600$ and up PLUS the cost of a good camera.  I'm thinking ransom it back to the owner/operator.
 
2013-06-13 02:37:43 PM  

PsyLord: remus: Another easy idea comes to mind...


[encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 259x194]

For the drone or the operator?  In this case, both answers are acceptable to me.


I'd say first shot into the drone.  Listen for the crying and gnashing of teeth to find the operator.  Then follow up with one in the arse to the operator.
 
2013-06-13 02:39:11 PM  
I love the equal mix of Farkers who are praying someone will fly one of these in their general neighborhood so they can whip out their shotgun on a little RC copter, and Farkers who can't comprehend a slippery slope and think 'well I'm a fat loser with blinds, there's NO scenario where this shouldn't be totally fine', who surely don't have children who aren't quite able to close blinds or whatever.

Legislation will have to address this so you do have legal recourse and the bounds are clearly defined about where you could fly a thing and what you can film, because they're about to be commonplace. Reminds me of the big fiasco about those long-distance Kate Middleton photos and other public vs. privacy issues when long-distance photography comes into play.
 
2013-06-13 02:39:51 PM  

Sybarite: By the time I knocked on their door to ask permission to retrieve it they'd discovered the drone and were holding it captive under a pot in the kitchen.

That's funny.


It is.  I think I'd probably keep it safe in a nice warm oven, though.
 
2013-06-13 02:41:04 PM  
Another easy idea comes to mind...

My thoughts exactly, 12 gauge, #8 shot, as they look to be about the size of a quail.

//problem solved..
 
2013-06-13 02:42:33 PM  
Screw the shotgun nonsense.  That's a free RC for the taking, shooting it up is just a waste.
 
2013-06-13 02:43:56 PM  

Kahabut: Gabrielmot: akula: noitsnot: You can get rubber shot that should be just the ticket.  Just break the props and bye bye.

Or - Anything that can throw a loop of string or wire across it would foul the props.

Heck, even a snakeshot load out of something like a .38spl would be sufficient. But again, if the trajectory would have pellets leaving your own yard I'd recommend against it. Wire or some kind of net, though, that would be quite effective. I have a travel laundry sack that is plastic mesh; it would jam those props solid. Then I can introduce it to Mr. Sledgehammer.

I was thinking, what about a paintball gun that fired ice? Not sure how possible that would be, but the evidence would melt pretty quickly.

Just fire paintballs.  In most places, that's not illegal.  It'll be more than enough to down the drone.

Keep in mind guys, most of these drones are operating within a hair of their maximum lifting weight.  It doesn't take a whole lot to knock them down.

A string with a fishing weight on it is more than enough in most cases.  Anything that hits even just one rotor will stop it cold, and the drone will crash shortly.

Also, these things are not cheap, the ones used for photography are 600$ and up PLUS the cost of a good camera.  I'm thinking ransom it back to the owner/operator.


snl.jt.org
It's on my property, it's mine now.
 
2013-06-13 02:44:13 PM  

Crewmannumber6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CR5y8qZf0Y


Skynet awakens.
 
2013-06-13 02:45:02 PM  

toraque: What's with all this ITG talk in here?  There are simpler solutions to this mess.

If anyone peeps in my windows with a spy drone, they're going to see a pasty white nerd doing such horrifying things with oatmeal, lube, animal crackers and a life sized cardboard cutout of George C. Scott that they'll never want to look in anyone's windows again.


Go on...
 
2013-06-13 02:49:19 PM  

Electromax: Reminds me of the big fiasco about those long-distance Kate Middleton photos and other public vs. privacy issues when long-distance photography comes into play.


At least with long distance photography the person has to have a clear line of sight from their position (in a presumably legal location) to you. With a drone they can position the photographic platform in a place that would traditionally be unreachable. For example, if a woman might sunbathe partially or completely nude in a fenced location that cannot be seen from elsewhere, a long distance photo shot is not going to happen. For someone to climb a ladder over the fence is a clear trespassing violation. Hover a drone over the fence, what was not visible is now visible. If the drone crosses the property line, that's also a real consideration. In TFA there's someone saying that a drone was hovering outside a window of a home. An RC aircraft is becoming the new telephoto lens, only it's one that's harder to counteract short of staying inside with curtains shut all the time.

I agree that legislation will likely have to catch up with this, but for now it doesn't really appear that it has.
 
2013-06-13 02:50:25 PM  

that was my nickname in highschool: Leaf blower.


At long last, an excusable reason to have a leaf blower.
 
2013-06-13 02:51:41 PM  
I would love to engage any encroaching drones with my own dedicated air superiority hunter drone ... the dogfights would be glorious!
 
2013-06-13 02:54:26 PM  
Paint gun would do just fine. You're not gonna miss with the burst rate on those things.
 
2013-06-13 02:54:38 PM  
"This isn't the drone you're looking for."
 
2013-06-13 02:54:39 PM  

vudukungfu: butterfly nets.
then toss it in a microwave


4/10 w soft pellet load. Hardly more than a cough, less than a sneeze of a report.
Down drone.
Loot goodies!

I am far from the first to see a booming market in interceptors.
 
2013-06-13 02:55:53 PM  
www.airsplat.com
This should take care of it.

/go one of these for my nephews B-day last week.
 
2013-06-13 02:56:50 PM  
I have one of these to see off pigeons landing on my roof. Should work just as well for drones.
www.slingshotsdirect.co.uk
/Not reproduced - hotlinked
 
2013-06-13 03:02:14 PM  

MorePeasPlease: I would love to engage any encroaching drones with my own dedicated air superiority hunter drone ... the dogfights would be glorious!


Try silly string for a good air/air weapon.
Good takedown, no severe damage.
 
2MS
2013-06-13 03:03:42 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com
What was he watching?
 
2013-06-13 03:04:26 PM  

MorePeasPlease: I would love to engage any encroaching drones with my own dedicated air superiority hunter drone ... the dogfights would be glorious!


Funny story.  We in the hobby have been doing that for ages.  It's really really hard.  Aiming anything in a dog fight is near impossible, especially at the scale you are playing with.

However, if you have a spare ground operator, do this.  Get a laser pointer, strong one.  build a laser guided missile drone.  (drone = tracking cone, rocket body, control surface fins (or gyro), rocket motor (or EDF))  Point, launch, laugh.

It's actually really simple, and can be done cheaply.  If you were interested, I would be remiss in not pointing you to the wiki article for the sidewinder missile.  The tracking mechanism used here can be adapted easily and cheaply, and you can make it at home.
/just saying
 
gja
2013-06-13 03:06:51 PM  

dahmers love zombie: http://www.instructables.com/id/make-a-microwave-gun-HERF-gun/?ALLSTE P S


PLEASE do NOT post stupidity like this.
Some imbecile will go and do this and cook their optic nerves or something as equally dumb.

And do not try to tell anyone "the article says it isn't dangerous".
It IS dangerous in the hands of someone who does not take proper precautions.
There are MANY ways to come to serious and permanent harm with such a device.

And I am someone who can speak expertly on this subject (microwave, acoustic lenses and laser tech).

Please think before posting.
 
2013-06-13 03:08:24 PM  

Kahabut: MorePeasPlease: I would love to engage any encroaching drones with my own dedicated air superiority hunter drone ... the dogfights would be glorious!

Funny story.  We in the hobby have been doing that for ages.  It's really really hard.  Aiming anything in a dog fight is near impossible, especially at the scale you are playing with.

However, if you have a spare ground operator, do this.  Get a laser pointer, strong one.  build a laser guided missile drone.  (drone = tracking cone, rocket body, control surface fins (or gyro), rocket motor (or EDF))  Point, launch, laugh.

It's actually really simple, and can be done cheaply.  If you were interested, I would be remiss in not pointing you to the wiki article for the sidewinder missile.  The tracking mechanism used here can be adapted easily and cheaply, and you can make it at home.
/just saying


And here I thought those of us with too much time on our hands played xbox. I need to step my game up apparently.
 
2013-06-13 03:12:13 PM  

gja: dahmers love zombie: http://www.instructables.com/id/make-a-microwave-gun-HERF-gun/?ALLSTE P S

PLEASE do NOT post stupidity like this.
Some imbecile will go and do this and cook their optic nerves or something as equally dumb.

And do not try to tell anyone "the article says it isn't dangerous".
It IS dangerous in the hands of someone who does not take proper precautions.
There are MANY ways to come to serious and permanent harm with such a device.

And I am someone who can speak expertly on this subject (microwave, acoustic lenses and laser tech).

Please think before posting.


Yeah, no one is gonna actually build that.
 
2013-06-13 03:13:15 PM  
add truck & trailer: what an $8,500 business may look like
www.directweb.com.au
 
2013-06-13 03:14:26 PM  
Attach some of these to your anti-drone drone:
www.dyberryfireworks.com
 
2013-06-13 03:19:55 PM  
I came in here to be the first person to mention curtains. I see its been covered, so I'll ask a relevant question.

What is it with white people living in DC who have no curtains on their windows? I'm not talking about having the curtains pulled back or having the blinds open. I'm talking about the complete lack of anything resembling a window cover. It's CRAZY to me. I would be totally uncomfortable there.
 
2013-06-13 03:22:47 PM  
akula:

I agree that legislation will likely have to catch up with this, but for now it doesn't really appear that it has.

How hasn't it?  Every state has a law prohibiting the use of audio or video equipment to peep on people on their own property.

For instance, in South Carolina:

South Carolina Code > Title 16 > Chapter 17 > § 16-17-470 - Eavesdropping, peeping, voyeurism
(B) A person commits the crime of voyeurism if, for the purpose of arousing or gratifying sexual desire of any person, he or she knowingly views, photographs, audio records, video records, produces, or creates a digital electronic file, or films another person, without that person's knowledge and consent, while the person is in a place where he or she would have a reasonable expectation of privacy. A person who violates the provisions of this subsection:

(1) for a first offense, is guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, must be fined not more than five hundred dollars or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; or

(2) for a second or subsequent offense, is guilty of a felony and, upon conviction, must be fined not less than five hundred dollars or more than five thousand dollars or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.
 
2013-06-13 03:23:42 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: I came in here to be the first person to mention curtains. I see its been covered, so I'll ask a relevant question.

What is it with white people living in DC who have no curtains on their windows? I'm not talking about having the curtains pulled back or having the blinds open. I'm talking about the complete lack of anything resembling a window cover. It's CRAZY to me. I would be totally uncomfortable there.


It's all the mayonnaise.
 
2013-06-13 03:24:36 PM  

wambu: [i.imgur.com image 428x599]

Effective anti-drone protection.


Also works for errant Frisbees, baseballs, e-bikes and errant seniors on scooters.

/get off my lawn
 
2013-06-13 03:26:57 PM  

lewismarktwo: gja: dahmers love zombie: http://www.instructables.com/id/make-a-microwave-gun-HERF-gun/?ALLSTE P S

PLEASE do NOT post stupidity like this.
Some imbecile will go and do this and cook their optic nerves or something as equally dumb.

And do not try to tell anyone "the article says it isn't dangerous".
It IS dangerous in the hands of someone who does not take proper precautions.
There are MANY ways to come to serious and permanent harm with such a device.

And I am someone who can speak expertly on this subject (microwave, acoustic lenses and laser tech).

Please think before posting.

Yeah, no one is gonna actually build that.


I've built that.  And a sonic cannon, and a tesla cannon and an alpha emitter, and many other dangerous things along the same lines.

Yeah, most people here aren't qualified to play with this stuff.  Most of the plans available are garbage and either don't work, or didn't account for some important secondary effect.  BUT, the point is, yes, someone of us build things in our spare time.

Also, someone up thread asked for a directional EMP.  HERE
Get copper core wire (solid core, not threaded) and wrap it around an M80.  Connect both ends to a 9v battery connected to a camera flash module.  Charge the flash.  When you trigger the flash, it pulses, you also have the fuse of the M80 wired to a squib (rocket motor igniter) and so when you trigger the flash, the fuse triggers and the M80 goes off while the copper you wrapped it in is energized.  This will create an EMP burst moving in the direction of the explosion.  (generally from fuse to butt).  If you put a parabolic shield behind the explosion, the emp goes the opposite way.  It's not as directional as it could be, but then it only costs about 2$.  You can greatly improve this system by making your own M80's with directional burn tubes.  (make a small funnel shape to the tube you pack with explosives)  And using a really good EM reflector.

The entire package is the size of a pack of smokes, and it's entirely self contained.  of course, it's also single use.
 
2013-06-13 03:27:33 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: I came in here to be the first person to mention curtains. I see its been covered, so I'll ask a relevant question.

What is it with white people living in DC who have no curtains on their windows? I'm not talking about having the curtains pulled back or having the blinds open. I'm talking about the complete lack of anything resembling a window cover. It's CRAZY to me. I would be totally uncomfortable there.


Racist.
 
2013-06-13 03:32:58 PM  

lewismarktwo: DROxINxTHExWIND: I came in here to be the first person to mention curtains. I see its been covered, so I'll ask a relevant question.

What is it with white people living in DC who have no curtains on their windows? I'm not talking about having the curtains pulled back or having the blinds open. I'm talking about the complete lack of anything resembling a window cover. It's CRAZY to me. I would be totally uncomfortable there.

It's all the mayonnaise.


LOL. Naw, seriously though. Its mostly the houses in upper North West. I think it might be more of a "new resident of the city" thing than a race thing but gentrification being what it is, most of the new residents are white...and many of them don't have curtains. But, I thought DC reputation was enough to discourage this kind of thing. I'm one of the folks who is always saying crime isn't as bad as folks claim, but I'll be damned if I'll stay in a house with a giant picture window  and nothing to cover it.
 
2013-06-13 03:34:15 PM  

ronaprhys: DROxINxTHExWIND: I came in here to be the first person to mention curtains. I see its been covered, so I'll ask a relevant question.

What is it with white people living in DC who have no curtains on their windows? I'm not talking about having the curtains pulled back or having the blinds open. I'm talking about the complete lack of anything resembling a window cover. It's CRAZY to me. I would be totally uncomfortable there.

Racist.



I thought observations weren't...ahh, nevermind. You got it.
 
gja
2013-06-13 03:34:47 PM  

lewismarktwo: gja: dahmers love zombie: http://www.instru

PLEASE do NOT post stupidity like this.
Some imbecile will go and do this and cook their optic nerves or something as equally dumb.

And do not try to tell anyone "the article says it isn't dangerous".
It IS dangerous in the hands of someone who does not take proper precautions.
There are MANY ways to come to serious and permanent harm with such a device.

And I am someone who can speak expertly on this subject (microwave, acoustic lenses and laser tech).

Please think before posting.

Yeah, no one is gonna actually build that.


Great guy-in-the-sky I hope not.
Sadly, the difference between genius and stupidity is genius has it's limits. Stupid knows no bounds.

horrible-story/
Knew a guy who did tower work and went up the span one day to check on a horn array.
Did not radio down according to SOP before working in front of array. By the time he realized they were still live it already did severe damage to nerves.
Moral of the story: What you don't know CAN kill you.
Dude is 100% disability from that day. Effing horrible way to be, I assure you.
/end horrible story
 
2013-06-13 03:35:46 PM  

wingding: Please please please somebody fly a drone over my house. Please! I have a wide variety of solutions I'd like to try, many of which have been mentioned in this thread.


you are pretty representative.
I doubt we will see a lot of spying "drones" because they are to noisy, to easy to spot, and then easy to take down. The proven thechniques will stay in use for spys or voyeurs, and there are not so much of those.
But a lot of people will hope to be spyed on, just like the ones who hope to be assaulted or to have their house brocken in, so they have a good reason for massive retaliation.
Oh boy, gotta be even more careful with my model aircrafts
 
2013-06-13 03:36:53 PM  
I'm sure I'm not the first to point this out, but all you have to do is jam the radio signals around your house.  A cell phone jammer might work
www.infostream.biz
http://www.infostream.biz/e-commerce-solutions-catalog1.0.2.html
 
2013-06-13 03:39:24 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: lewismarktwo: DROxINxTHExWIND: I came in here to be the first person to mention curtains. I see its been covered, so I'll ask a relevant question.

What is it with white people living in DC who have no curtains on their windows? I'm not talking about having the curtains pulled back or having the blinds open. I'm talking about the complete lack of anything resembling a window cover. It's CRAZY to me. I would be totally uncomfortable there.

It's all the mayonnaise.

LOL. Naw, seriously though. Its mostly the houses in upper North West. I think it might be more of a "new resident of the city" thing than a race thing but gentrification being what it is, most of the new residents are white...and many of them don't have curtains. But, I thought DC reputation was enough to discourage this kind of thing. I'm one of the folks who is always saying crime isn't as bad as folks claim, but I'll be damned if I'll stay in a house with a giant picture window  and nothing to cover it.


As a white guy who grew up in the suburbs, there are a couple of possibilities:
1) curtains are expensive and I spent way too much on this house to afford them right now.
2) I want everyone to see how awesome the paint, renovated brick walls, and quirky decor items in my place are

The whole 'new city resident' thing doesn't totally wash.  In the burbs we have curtains and drapes in the private areas of the house (bedroom, etc), if for no other reason than to keep the sun out during the summer.  But it's not uncommon to have no window treatment over the front living room, as long as there isn't a sun issue.
 
2013-06-13 03:42:54 PM  

akula: While I'd love to use my skeet skills on one of those (if I had such a douchey neighbor), in an actual neighborhood that's not really responsible.

I do wonder if that wasp spray that shoots 25' or so would fark up one of those things. A garden hose very likely would.


A tennis ball would probably do some serious damage to one of those, and would be quite safe in a residential neighborhood.  A kickball would most definitely take one out of the sky, but with that you stand a better chance of taking out a window.  I do wonder, though, what one of those nerf guns (the ones that shoot the plastic darts) would do to a mini drone?  (Especially with a reinforced, hard plastic tip.)  Oh yeah, frisbees!
 
2013-06-13 03:50:06 PM  
To all those who keep saying, "Close your curtains," why should we have to do so?  Why do we have to alter our behavior because some douchenozzle is doing something that is quite possibly illegal?  Some of us like natural light and therefore keep the blinds or curtains open.  We should not have to alter our lives because of some social deviant.
 
2013-06-13 03:56:58 PM  

PsyLord: Kahabut: Gabrielmot: akula: noitsnot: You can get rubber shot that should be just the ticket.  Just break the props and bye bye.

Or - Anything that can throw a loop of string or wire across it would foul the props.

Heck, even a snakeshot load out of something like a .38spl would be sufficient. But again, if the trajectory would have pellets leaving your own yard I'd recommend against it. Wire or some kind of net, though, that would be quite effective. I have a travel laundry sack that is plastic mesh; it would jam those props solid. Then I can introduce it to Mr. Sledgehammer.

I was thinking, what about a paintball gun that fired ice? Not sure how possible that would be, but the evidence would melt pretty quickly.

Just fire paintballs.  In most places, that's not illegal.  It'll be more than enough to down the drone.

Keep in mind guys, most of these drones are operating within a hair of their maximum lifting weight.  It doesn't take a whole lot to knock them down.

A string with a fishing weight on it is more than enough in most cases.  Anything that hits even just one rotor will stop it cold, and the drone will crash shortly.

Also, these things are not cheap, the ones used for photography are 600$ and up PLUS the cost of a good camera.  I'm thinking ransom it back to the owner/operator.

[snl.jt.org image 200x150]
It's on my property, it's mine now.


I was thinking the same thing. Have to look up the law on Finder v Loser
 
2013-06-13 03:59:56 PM  

skantea: I'm sure I'm not the first to point this out, but all you have to do is jam the radio signals around your house.  A cell phone jammer might work
[www.infostream.biz image 328x323]
http://www.infostream.biz/e-commerce-solutions-catalog1.0.2.html


Didn't someone come out with wall paint that blocked phone signals?  I remember that people suggest usingit in cinemas.
 
2013-06-13 04:06:07 PM  

Mock26: To all those who keep saying, "Close your curtains," why should we have to do so?  Why do we have to alter our behavior because some douchenozzle is doing something that is quite possibly illegal?  Some of us like natural light and therefore keep the blinds or curtains open.  We should not have to alter our lives because of some social deviant.


You don't.  Feel free to leave your curtains open.   You don't need a drone to see in people's windows, so there's really nothing new here that any kid with a telephoto lens couldn't check out from the right vantage point.  The RC vehicle just makes it easier and more obvious.
 
2013-06-13 04:06:59 PM  

meanmutton: akula:

I agree that legislation will likely have to catch up with this, but for now it doesn't really appear that it has.

How hasn't it?  Every state has a law prohibiting the use of audio or video equipment to peep on people on their own property.

For instance, in South Carolina:

South Carolina Code > Title 16 > Chapter 17 > § 16-17-470 - Eavesdropping, peeping, voyeurism
(B) A person commits the crime of voyeurism if, for the purpose of arousing or gratifying sexual desire of any person, he or she knowingly views, photographs, audio records, video records, produces, or creates a digital electronic file, or films another person, without that person's knowledge and consent, while the person is in a place where he or she would have a reasonable expectation of privacy. A person who violates the provisions of this subsection:

(1) for a first offense, is guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, must be fined not more than five hundred dollars or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; or

(2) for a second or subsequent offense, is guilty of a felony and, upon conviction, must be fined not less than five hundred dollars or more than five thousand dollars or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.


I was thinking more in terms of the actual flight paths taken than the actual recording. Is it trespassing to remotely fly a vehicle (camera equipped or not) near to people, etc. Maybe it's folded in under other laws. I'm no friggin' lawyer.

So if you want, feel free to claim this one as a win and go screw your wife like a stallion tonight with the testosterone building up in your veins right now. I don't give a fark.
 
2013-06-13 04:15:50 PM  

Kahabut: lewismarktwo: gja: dahmers love zombie: http://www.instructables.com/id/make-a-microwave-gun-HERF-gun/?ALLSTE P S

Also, someone up thread asked for a directional EMP.  HERE
Get copper core wire (solid core, not threaded) and wrap it around an M80.  Connect both ends to a 9v battery connected to a camera flash module.  Charge the flash.  When you trigger the flash, it pulses, you also have the fuse of the M80 wired to a squib (rocket motor igniter) and so when you trigger the flash, the fuse triggers and the M80 goes off while the copper you wrapped it in is energized.  This will create an EMP burst moving in the direction of the explosion.  (generally from fuse to butt).  If you put a parabolic shield behind the explosion, the emp goes the opposite way.  It's not as directional as it could be, but then it only costs about 2$.  You can greatly improve this system by making your own M80's with directional burn tubes.  (make a small funnel shape to the tube you pack with explosives)  And using a really good EM reflector.


Yeah, OK - that was gibberish.

Here's how they really work, and you can see how you'd make one if you wanted to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosively_pumped_flux_compression_gen er ator
 
2013-06-13 04:31:08 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: lewismarktwo: DROxINxTHExWIND: I came in here to be the first person to mention curtains. I see its been covered, so I'll ask a relevant question.

What is it with white people living in DC who have no curtains on their windows? I'm not talking about having the curtains pulled back or having the blinds open. I'm talking about the complete lack of anything resembling a window cover. It's CRAZY to me. I would be totally uncomfortable there.

It's all the mayonnaise.

LOL. Naw, seriously though. Its mostly the houses in upper North West. I think it might be more of a "new resident of the city" thing than a race thing but gentrification being what it is, most of the new residents are white...and many of them don't have curtains. But, I thought DC reputation was enough to discourage this kind of thing. I'm one of the folks who is always saying crime isn't as bad as folks claim, but I'll be damned if I'll stay in a house with a giant picture window  and nothing to cover it.


You are correct sir. Not only is it not as bad as people think, crime for most people isn't a factor of minority or even "poor" - it's teenagers. Whatever the race/ethnicity/socioeconomic demographic of teenagers are near you, that's who will be committing most of the crimes.

I also agree with you on window coverings. Criminals [generally speaking] aren't scoping your place out, they saw an opportunity and took it on the spur of the moment.
 
2013-06-13 04:57:55 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: ronaprhys: DROxINxTHExWIND: I came in here to be the first person to mention curtains. I see its been covered, so I'll ask a relevant question.

What is it with white people living in DC who have no curtains on their windows? I'm not talking about having the curtains pulled back or having the blinds open. I'm talking about the complete lack of anything resembling a window cover. It's CRAZY to me. I would be totally uncomfortable there.

Racist.


I thought observations weren't...ahh, nevermind. You got it.


It was just too easy...
 
2013-06-13 04:58:45 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: lewismarktwo: DROxINxTHExWIND: I came in here to be the first person to mention curtains. I see its been covered, so I'll ask a relevant question.

What is it with white people living in DC who have no curtains on their windows? I'm not talking about having the curtains pulled back or having the blinds open. I'm talking about the complete lack of anything resembling a window cover. It's CRAZY to me. I would be totally uncomfortable there.

It's all the mayonnaise.

LOL. Naw, seriously though. Its mostly the houses in upper North West. I think it might be more of a "new resident of the city" thing than a race thing but gentrification being what it is, most of the new residents are white...and many of them don't have curtains. But, I thought DC reputation was enough to discourage this kind of thing. I'm one of the folks who is always saying crime isn't as bad as folks claim, but I'll be damned if I'll stay in a house with a giant picture window  and nothing to cover it.


There are showing all the black people they have nothing to steal....

:P
/jk
 
2013-06-13 04:59:20 PM  

akula: meanmutton: akula:

I agree that legislation will likely have to catch up with this, but for now it doesn't really appear that it has.

How hasn't it?  Every state has a law prohibiting the use of audio or video equipment to peep on people on their own property.

For instance, in South Carolina:

South Carolina Code > Title 16 > Chapter 17 > § 16-17-470 - Eavesdropping, peeping, voyeurism
(B) A person commits the crime of voyeurism if, for the purpose of arousing or gratifying sexual desire of any person, he or she knowingly views, photographs, audio records, video records, produces, or creates a digital electronic file, or films another person, without that person's knowledge and consent, while the person is in a place where he or she would have a reasonable expectation of privacy. A person who violates the provisions of this subsection:

(1) for a first offense, is guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, must be fined not more than five hundred dollars or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; or

(2) for a second or subsequent offense, is guilty of a felony and, upon conviction, must be fined not less than five hundred dollars or more than five thousand dollars or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

I was thinking more in terms of the actual flight paths taken than the actual recording. Is it trespassing to remotely fly a vehicle (camera equipped or not) near to people, etc. Maybe it's folded in under other laws. I'm no friggin' lawyer.

So if you want, feel free to claim this one as a win and go screw your wife like a stallion tonight with the testosterone building up in your veins right now. I don't give a fark.


Wow, someone's grumpy.
 
2013-06-13 05:37:19 PM  

Gabrielmot: akula: noitsnot: You can get rubber shot that should be just the ticket.  Just break the props and bye bye.

Or - Anything that can throw a loop of string or wire across it would foul the props.

Heck, even a snakeshot load out of something like a .38spl would be sufficient. But again, if the trajectory would have pellets leaving your own yard I'd recommend against it. Wire or some kind of net, though, that would be quite effective. I have a travel laundry sack that is plastic mesh; it would jam those props solid. Then I can introduce it to Mr. Sledgehammer.

I was thinking, what about a paintball gun that fired ice? Not sure how possible that would be, but the evidence would melt pretty quickly.


Close. You freeze your paintballs.
 
2013-06-13 05:43:49 PM  

MorePeasPlease: I would love to engage any encroaching drones with my own dedicated air superiority hunter drone ... the dogfights would be glorious!


If we have this to look forward to I might welcome the future. Try and get your kills over your own yard for the salvage, that you auction off, turn into trophies or upgrade your own fleet...
 
2013-06-13 05:59:25 PM  

Rhomboid Goatcabin: Just toss a bola at it.


Or spray it with ebola, so when droneboy collects his toy...

/Garden hose with a high-pressure nozzle could be entertaining
//prefers the 12 gauge solution
 
2013-06-13 06:13:14 PM  

skantea: I'm sure I'm not the first to point this out, but all you have to do is jam the radio signals around your house.  A cell phone jammer might work
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Wrong frequency.  And most RC vehicles (which everyone now calls drones, incorrectly) use frequency hopping radios.  They are not super easy to jam.  It's also illegal under current FCC rules.  (so is that cell phone jammer).

That being said, it can be done, just not with a cell jammer.

/an over spec WIFI will often be enough for cheaper radios
//a WAY over spec WIFI will do the job, but it'll melt after a while.
 
2013-06-13 06:50:45 PM  

Kahabut: http://www.infostream.biz/e-commerce-solutions-catalog1.0.2.html


So one of these then?
WIFI, Video & Bluetooth Multi-functional Jammer ( Portable)
www.infostream.biz

/I don't think a cop would even know what it was...
 
2013-06-13 08:27:30 PM  
I hope this leads to anti-drone drones. Seems like it would be pretty simple to take one out by dropping a net or even rope onto the rotors.
 
2013-06-13 09:45:26 PM  
Screw the shotgun nonsense.  That's a free RC for the taking, shooting it up is just a waste.

Good point, I do have a large dip net.
 
2013-06-13 09:51:34 PM  

QueenMamaBee: So is every un-manned flying object a "drone" now, or is that simply a toy helicopter with a camera on it?


What do you mean "now"?  When was there a definition of "drone" that specified that some unmanned flying objects were drones and some weren't?
 
2013-06-13 09:53:07 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: Just get a Daisy... pump it 20 or 30 times... and pour a bunch of BB's down the barrel.

This is also how you make pigeons go away.


I've heard a different method is common.
 
2013-06-14 01:52:44 AM  

Sybarite: By the time I knocked on their door to ask permission to retrieve it they'd discovered the drone and were holding it captive under a pot in the kitchen.

That's funny.


The neighbor who held the drone captive is a pal of mine. He posted the discovery of it on his Facebutt account so we could all contemplate why it wound up in his yard. He backed the indiegogo fundraiser for Droneshield and gave the dude his drone back after he explained himself.
 
2013-06-14 02:48:24 AM  

elguerodiablo: Why stalk people when the internet lets you view the cams nubile womens gladly put in their own bedrooms and then do awesome naked things in front of?


I think it has something to do with a feeling of power or control, or possibly the thrill of doing something "naughty", or the risk of getting caught.  Or maybe it has to do with spying on your next-door neighbor while she's taking a bath, and then seeing her walking around the neighborhood fully clothed later--- that knowledge that she doesn't know you've seen her naked --- having a secret.  I don't know.  I don't really get voyeurism, frankly, but it seems to be a very powerful force for a lot of people.

There has to be SOME reason why horny guys don't just look at free porn on the Internet.
 
2013-06-14 02:51:26 AM  

toraque: What's with all this ITG talk in here?  There are simpler solutions to this mess.

If anyone peeps in my windows with a spy drone, they're going to see a pasty white nerd doing such horrifying things with oatmeal, lube, animal crackers and a life sized cardboard cutout of George C. Scott that they'll never want to look in anyone's windows again.


We just call that "Thursday" in these parts.
 
2013-06-14 04:03:25 AM  
I like the idea of spraying the drone thing with a water hose, but why not find the operator and spray them? I think it would be hilarious watching them try to shield their remote control device from the water while they try to figure out how to fly their drone without crashing it despite the distraction of my spraying water in their face.
Of course, if you're the intimidating type, just tell them to either crash their drone into the ground immediately or face an ass kicking. If they don't crash it on purpose, it'll crash when they can't fly it because they're being pummeled.

/is assault with water a charge?
//violence is not the answer
 
2013-06-14 09:09:19 AM  

soozbot: Sybarite: By the time I knocked on their door to ask permission to retrieve it they'd discovered the drone and were holding it captive under a pot in the kitchen.

That's funny.

The neighbor who held the drone captive is a pal of mine. He posted the discovery of it on his Facebutt account so we could all contemplate why it wound up in his yard. He backed the indiegogo fundraiser for Droneshield and gave the dude his drone back after he explained himself.



That actually is a CSB.
 
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