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(CNN)   With a turnover rate of 98% a year, trucking companies are doing EVERYTHING possible to recruit new truck drivers. Except paying them more. That would be stupid, right?   (money.cnn.com) divider line 178
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2013-06-13 11:36:21 AM  
38,000 a year for driving 10 hours a day, six days a week, eating nothing but fast food, and getting the herp from truckstop hookers? Wow, where do I sign up?
 
2013-06-13 11:43:26 AM  
New rules, set to go into effect July 1

14 Consective hour duty rule changes
Mandatory on duty break provision
60/70 HOS rule change
and the new and improved 34 hour restart rule where the actual 34 doesn't matter you have to be home between 2-5am two days in a row.


FYI for the bastards that came up with this, WE CAN PAY THEM MORE THAN YOU CAN FINE THEM!!

So now they limit the miles they can drive and the work they can do and you want to blame the trucking companies for the lack of pay? I've been trying to live under these new rules for 6 months and there is no way I can do what I have been doing with the people and trucks I have!! So that means more trucks and more drivers but the same amount of output. What do you think that's going to do to cost?! By my math for every 5 trucks in the fleet we are going to need to add at least one maybe 2 units!
What does mean for you? Everything you have, use or see was brought here on a truck. Costs are going to skyrocket. And do you think you're buying safer road with this?! Don't make me laugh. Every day more and more trucks are being filled by drivers from Russia and the Baltic states. Why you ask? They can come over here get a CDL in under a week and drive till they get them taken away. These guys dont speck the language and have no interest in safety.


enjoy the ride
 
2013-06-13 11:59:57 AM  
Don't forget the diabetes! And to think setting in a seat all day while shoveling fast food and cokes into your cake hole could be unhealthy.
/who knew?
//knows a few truckers
 
2013-06-13 12:00:03 PM  
The Stealth Hippopotamus:

 day more and more trucks are being filled by drivers from Russia and the Baltic states. Why you ask? They can come over here get a CDL in under a week and drive till they get them taken away. These guys dont speck the language and have no interest in safety.

How do Russians and others get work Visas to enter the US and become truck drivers?  Is there like a huge pool of trucker Visas waiting to be taken?
 
2013-06-13 12:03:01 PM  
As a former OTR driver for one of the most turn overiest companies out there (Swift) I can say the driving is the least pain in the ass part of it. The pay for driving was fine, it was all the other bullshiat in between drop/hook/drop that wasn't worth it.
 
2013-06-13 12:04:06 PM  

Jubeebee: 38,000 a year for driving 10 hours a day, six days a week, eating nothing but fast food, and getting the herp from truckstop hookers? Wow, where do I sign up?


They're called lot lizards.

/ex girlfriend's dad was a truck driver
 
2013-06-13 12:07:30 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Every day more and more trucks are being filled by drivers from Russia and the Baltic states. Why you ask?


Depressing trucker wages?
 
2013-06-13 12:08:09 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: What does mean for you? Everything you have, use or see was brought here on a truck. Costs are going to skyrocket. And do you think you're buying safer road with this?!


Why do we rely on trunks for so much OTR anyway?  I understand the need for "last mile" delivery, but why trucks over rail?  Does the rail system just suck that much?
 
2013-06-13 12:09:41 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Mandatory on duty break provision



If that keeps all y'all filthy pigs from throwing bottles of your own piss out the window, I'm all for that.
 
2013-06-13 12:10:30 PM  
streetganglife.com
 
2013-06-13 12:10:54 PM  

GilRuiz1: How do Russians and others get work Visas to enter the US and become truck drivers? Is there like a huge pool of trucker Visas waiting to be taken?


H1-B

And when they come over here they have large trucking companies just dying to "sell" them a truck. Basically what happens is the driver signs on, gets some training, gets his CDL and signs a loan to buy the truck. This way the driver is an owner operator of the vehicle and any DOT or FMCSA fines, infractions or write ups are on the driver/owner of the vehicle and doesn't effect the company. So if Ivan has a bad run of luck he just walks away with the paycheck from his last trip and the company gets to repo the truck and sell it to the next guy.

Jubeebee: 38,000 a year for driving 10 hours a day, six days a week, eating nothing but fast food, and getting the herp from truckstop hookers? Wow, where do I sign up?


My top driver made 74k last year. But he is a single guy without a family or even an apartment. He lives in his truck and gets to see the country.
Average driver is somewhere in the 55-60 range. Which isn't bad for a job you can get with a high school diploma.

Also my drivers average 5 days out and 2 days of home time. Which for this industry is unheard of.
 
2013-06-13 12:15:02 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: New rules, set to go into effect July 1

14 Consective hour duty rule changes
Mandatory on duty break provision
60/70 HOS rule change
and the new and improved 34 hour restart rule where the actual 34 doesn't matter you have to be home between 2-5am two days in a row.


FYI for the bastards that came up with this, WE CAN PAY THEM MORE THAN YOU CAN FINE THEM!!

So now they limit the miles they can drive and the work they can do and you want to blame the trucking companies for the lack of pay? I've been trying to live under these new rules for 6 months and there is no way I can do what I have been doing with the people and trucks I have!! So that means more trucks and more drivers but the same amount of output. What do you think that's going to do to cost?! By my math for every 5 trucks in the fleet we are going to need to add at least one maybe 2 units!
What does mean for you? Everything you have, use or see was brought here on a truck. Costs are going to skyrocket. And do you think you're buying safer road with this?! Don't make me laugh. Every day more and more trucks are being filled by drivers from Russia and the Baltic states. Why you ask? They can come over here get a CDL in under a week and drive till they get them taken away. These guys dont speck the language and have no interest in safety.


enjoy the ride


I can't wait until NAFTA allows in drivers from Mexico. Shipping rates will drop quicker than Lyndsey Lohan after 2 night bender.
 
2013-06-13 12:15:19 PM  

wingnut396: The Stealth Hippopotamus: What does mean for you? Everything you have, use or see was brought here on a truck. Costs are going to skyrocket. And do you think you're buying safer road with this?!

Why do we rely on trunks for so much OTR anyway?  I understand the need for "last mile" delivery, but why trucks over rail?  Does the rail system just suck that much?


Rail cannot ever work with our economic model the way trucks do. While it is a very viable long distance transportation method and has a definite place for moss load delivery, our economics are presently based on an "item on demand" market. This means most industires, retailers, and services do not want to pay expensive inventory costs to keep large quantities of needed goods on site, but instead have to have regular deliveries of items at a specific time and only the specific quantity needed.

Trains work excellently if you are keeping an inventory of goods. You can deliver massive amounts of materials for extremely cheap. However, if you are needing to get 3 tons of parts from the port of Miami to a Chicago plant, and you need it by 3 a.m. Tuesday morning for when you start production, you can't easily use rely on our limited rail system to get it to you on time and, even if you could, the cost for delivering such a small load would be very, very expensive.

Whereas you can have a Husband and Wife trucker team get the same load to you for a fraction of the cost at the exact time you need and, should they not succeed, you can swap with another private contractor. Or, if you value paying slightly more for reliability, you can have a large trucking company be your delivery system for still cheaper than the trains could offer for the amount you want to use.

It's all about inventory versus on-demand.
 
2013-06-13 12:16:30 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: My top driver made 74k last year. But he is a single guy without a family or even an apartment. He lives in his truck and gets to see the country.


That actually sounds like a dream job to me. But from what I've heard, trucking is one of those may things Corporate America has ruined in the past few generations.
 
2013-06-13 12:17:11 PM  

wingnut396: Why do we rely on trunks for so much OTR anyway? I understand the need for "last mile" delivery, but why trucks over rail? Does the rail system just suck that much?


Rail is great and dirt cheap. And it's great if you dont need your product in a month. You can blame Just in Time Inventory for killing that. Rail is just like ocean, if you can keep a large amount of inventory on hand you can weather out the fluctuation in delivery time if not you're humped

phaseolus: If that keeps all y'all filthy pigs from throwing bottles of your own piss out the window, I'm all for that.


If you think a 30 minute break every 8 hours is going to stop piss bomb you are nuts.
 
2013-06-13 12:19:22 PM  

wingnut396: The Stealth Hippopotamus: What does mean for you? Everything you have, use or see was brought here on a truck. Costs are going to skyrocket. And do you think you're buying safer road with this?!

Why do we rely on trunks for so much OTR anyway?  I understand the need for "last mile" delivery, but why trucks over rail?  Does the rail system just suck that much?


Short answer: Yes

Longer answer: It depends.

Longest answer:  For bulk commodity stuff (oil, rolled sheet steel, grain, cement), and for semi-commodity things that can be scheduled with long lead-times (cars, cattle) it's good.  But it's lousy for people doing JIT inventory that isn't 100% predictable a week in advance, or doesn't have the same number of boxcars being moved from the same Point A to the same Point B, every single day.
 
2013-06-13 12:20:27 PM  
God forbid you should pay people more...

/Job creators above all
 
2013-06-13 12:23:57 PM  

JollyMagistrate: It's all about inventory versus on-demand.


You sure do talk pur-dy . And I really take too long to respond. F5 how does it work?!


ThatGuyFromTheInternet: That actually sounds like a dream job to me. But from what I've heard, trucking is one of those may things Corporate America has ruined in the past few generations.


What's really cool is all the hot-shot companies hiring retired Grandmas and Grandpa driving teams. For the most part you dont need a CDL and only need a class B. They buy really really sweet rides and are basically RV-ing with someone else picking up the gas!

Corporate America isn't ruining anything when it comes to trucking
 
2013-06-13 12:24:25 PM  
They're thirsty down in Georgia...
 
2013-06-13 12:26:09 PM  

rudemix: As a former OTR driver for one of the most turn overiest companies out there (Swift) I can say the driving is the least pain in the ass part of it. The pay for driving was fine, it was all the other bullshiat in between drop/hook/drop that wasn't worth it.


Yep.  My dad was a truck driver for a while and I went on quite a few runs with him.  He did night runs of about 400 miles round trip that took 12 hours or more because nothing was ever ready.  He'd get to the yard to find a flat tire on his truck or one of his trailers was blocked in.  Get to the first warehouse to drop half the load and there's nobody to unload it and/or the half he's supposed to drop was loaded in the front of the trailer.  If he's supposed to swap trailers, the one he's supposed to take isn't loaded yet.  The pay was pretty darn good for that era but you really had to be able to just roll with it to keep from going postal.
 
2013-06-13 12:26:48 PM  
(Correct if wrong, this is my understanding)

Aren't the rules for how many hours a day a trucker can do based only on the driver, not the truck? So if a two man team does it, one can drive for 8 hours, the other can relax or sleep and then take over for 8 hours and they just keep swapping seats as it were?
 
2013-06-13 12:29:14 PM  

bennett311: They're thirsty down in Georgia...


and there is beer in texarkana


trivia question: without looking can you tell me what beer it was?
 
2013-06-13 12:29:18 PM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: The Stealth Hippopotamus: My top driver made 74k last year. But he is a single guy without a family or even an apartment. He lives in his truck and gets to see the country.

That actually sounds like a dream job to me. But from what I've heard, trucking is one of those may things Corporate America has ruined in the past few generations.


I've read horror stories about some of the big outfits that advertise their own training, etc. Lots of guys end up with very little money at the end of the week, or worse yet owing the company money. Just Google CR England and the word scam to hear what corporate trucking is all about.
 
2013-06-13 12:29:30 PM  
All this focus on the truckers, when all I want to know is how I get a job as the Bandit.

image.highperformancepontiac.com
 
2013-06-13 12:29:49 PM  
Way of the road.  The way of the farkin road.
 
2013-06-13 12:32:38 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: bennett311: They're thirsty down in Georgia...

and there is beer in texarkana


trivia question: without looking can you tell me what beer it was?


They was bootlegging Coors. It IS the banquet beer.
 
2013-06-13 12:32:47 PM  

buzzcut73: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: The Stealth Hippopotamus: My top driver made 74k last year. But he is a single guy without a family or even an apartment. He lives in his truck and gets to see the country.

That actually sounds like a dream job to me. But from what I've heard, trucking is one of those may things Corporate America has ruined in the past few generations.

I've read horror stories about some of the big outfits that advertise their own training, etc. Lots of guys end up with very little money at the end of the week, or worse yet owing the company money. Just Google CR England and the word scam to hear what corporate trucking is all about.


That's exactly what I've heard. And the "freedom" from the 70's and before is long gone. Of course, that's true about everything.
 
2013-06-13 12:33:32 PM  

Jubeebee: 38,000 a year for driving 10 hours a day, six days a week, eating nothing but fast food, and getting the herp from truckstop hookers? Wow, where do I sign up?


And knowing that at any moment Buffy McBoobjob will cut you off in her Prius on the interstate going 80 mph because she doesn't understand that law of conservation of momentum?
 
2013-06-13 12:33:41 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: bennett311: They're thirsty down in Georgia...

and there is beer in texarkana


trivia question: without looking can you tell me what beer it was?


Coors.

Also the line is "The boys are thirsty in Atlanta and there's beer in Texarkana"
 
2013-06-13 12:36:52 PM  
And just how do you expect me to pay my drivers more when I have Taxbama reaching down into my wallet?!

/Signed, a Small Business Owner
 
2013-06-13 12:37:31 PM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: buzzcut73: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: The Stealth Hippopotamus: My top driver made 74k last year. But he is a single guy without a family or even an apartment. He lives in his truck and gets to see the country.

That actually sounds like a dream job to me. But from what I've heard, trucking is one of those may things Corporate America has ruined in the past few generations.

I've read horror stories about some of the big outfits that advertise their own training, etc. Lots of guys end up with very little money at the end of the week, or worse yet owing the company money. Just Google CR England and the word scam to hear what corporate trucking is all about.

That's exactly what I've heard. And the "freedom" from the 70's and before is long gone. Of course, that's true about everything.


You can't even ride with a chimpanzee.
 
2013-06-13 12:39:36 PM  

FrancoFile: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: buzzcut73: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: The Stealth Hippopotamus: My top driver made 74k last year. But he is a single guy without a family or even an apartment. He lives in his truck and gets to see the country.

That actually sounds like a dream job to me. But from what I've heard, trucking is one of those may things Corporate America has ruined in the past few generations.

I've read horror stories about some of the big outfits that advertise their own training, etc. Lots of guys end up with very little money at the end of the week, or worse yet owing the company money. Just Google CR England and the word scam to hear what corporate trucking is all about.

That's exactly what I've heard. And the "freedom" from the 70's and before is long gone. Of course, that's true about everything.

You can't even ride with a chimpanzee.


Keep your stinkin' laws off me, and my damn dirty ape!
 
2013-06-13 12:41:28 PM  

KellyX: Aren't the rules for how many hours a day a trucker can do based only on the driver, not the truck? So if a two man team does it, one can drive for 8 hours, the other can relax or sleep and then take over for 8 hours and they just keep swapping seats as it were?


yes. but you drive for 10. This mandatory break is also going to screw that up. You can have the other driver move over and drive for the break time but then he as to do what is called a split sleeper berth on his driver's log. I've meet DOT enforcement officers that don't fully understand how to log that.

Here is the explanation: Link

Now remember that this is being done by people who don't speck the language and/or have very little schooling. I have instructed my driver to not use it.
 
2013-06-13 12:46:59 PM  
Dear Companies,

There's this little thing called inflation, it means the costs of EVERYTHING (including labor) slowly rise over time.

$40,000/year in 1993 is $62,599.56/year in 2013. Please adjust your salaries accordingly.
 
2013-06-13 12:48:07 PM  

Mentat: Jubeebee: 38,000 a year for driving 10 hours a day, six days a week, eating nothing but fast food, and getting the herp from truckstop hookers? Wow, where do I sign up?

And knowing that at any moment Buffy McBoobjob will cut you off in her Prius on the interstate going 80 mph because she doesn't understand that law of conservation of momentum?


The plus side is that if there is a collision, you're going to be the one walking away.
 
2013-06-13 12:54:47 PM  

Ponzholio: The plus side is that if there is a collision, you're going to be the one walking away.


Some of those "damn 4 wheelers" and their friends have guns.
Keep that in mind before you smash the next family into oblivion.
 
2013-06-13 12:55:30 PM  
I doubt if pay is really the over-riding issue. It seems like those guys get paid pretty decent money for what is, essentially, unskilled labor. My guess, and I could be completely full of shiat, is that it is the lifestyle. It's just not for everyone. Being away from home for long stretches of time, living out of the tiny sleeper cab of a semi, eating out all the time, etc. The long-haul trucker is a different breed. The guys that I know who drive truck locally and can go to work all day and be home with momma at night seem to really enjoy it. Most of the guys that I know who have gone into long-haul trucking burn out in a year or two. I think you could pay these guys $100k/yr. and still have pretty high turnover. Not as bad as it is now, but a lot of people still wouldn't be able to hack it.
 
2013-06-13 12:58:51 PM  

Mentat: Jubeebee: 38,000 a year for driving 10 hours a day, six days a week, eating nothing but fast food, and getting the herp from truckstop hookers? Wow, where do I sign up?

And knowing that at any moment Buffy McBoobjob will cut you off in her Prius on the interstate going 80 mph because she doesn't understand that law of conservation of momentum?


Wait, 60 hours a week for 38k and you probably supply your own fuel and eat shiat?
 
2013-06-13 12:59:31 PM  
The Stealth Hippopotamus:

My top driver made 74k last year. But he is a single guy without a family or even an apartment. He lives in his truck and gets to see the country.

This sounds pretty romantic until you realize that Kansas looks like Ohio looks like most of Wyoming.  That and the places you see are corporate truck stops and the backs of loading docks.

I've seen the country too.  From Sheratons on Long Island to server farms way outside of LA, I've been all across this great land.  After a while, it's waking up and trying to remember whether you're in Northern Virginia or suburban Atlanta.  Looking out the window provides no visual clues.
 
2013-06-13 12:59:35 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: New rules, set to go into effect July 1

14 Consective hour duty rule changes
Mandatory on duty break provision
60/70 HOS rule change
and the new and improved 34 hour restart rule where the actual 34 doesn't matter you have to be home between 2-5am two days in a row.


FYI for the bastards that came up with this, WE CAN PAY THEM MORE THAN YOU CAN FINE THEM!!

So now they limit the miles they can drive and the work they can do and you want to blame the trucking companies for the lack of pay? I've been trying to live under these new rules for 6 months and there is no way I can do what I have been doing with the people and trucks I have!! So that means more trucks and more drivers but the same amount of output. What do you think that's going to do to cost?! By my math for every 5 trucks in the fleet we are going to need to add at least one maybe 2 units!
What does mean for you? Everything you have, use or see was brought here on a truck. Costs are going to skyrocket. And do you think you're buying safer road with this?! Don't make me laugh. Every day more and more trucks are being filled by drivers from Russia and the Baltic states. Why you ask? They can come over here get a CDL in under a week and drive till they get them taken away. These guys dont speck the language and have no interest in safety.


enjoy the ride


HOLY FARK those are some stupid rules.
 
2013-06-13 01:01:46 PM  

mod3072: I doubt if pay is really the over-riding issue. It seems like those guys get paid pretty decent money for what is, essentially, unskilled labor. My guess, and I could be completely full of shiat, is that it is the lifestyle. It's just not for everyone. Being away from home for long stretches of time, living out of the tiny sleeper cab of a semi, eating out all the time, etc. The long-haul trucker is a different breed. The guys that I know who drive truck locally and can go to work all day and be home with momma at night seem to really enjoy it. Most of the guys that I know who have gone into long-haul trucking burn out in a year or two. I think you could pay these guys $100k/yr. and still have pretty high turnover. Not as bad as it is now, but a lot of people still wouldn't be able to hack it.


That was my figure too, a friend of mine does this, he's gone nearly a month at a time before he comes home for a week or something like that... Must really suck if you got family, and he has a wife (that's a lot of trust there I suspect).
 
2013-06-13 01:04:09 PM  
Ok, I am confused. They have hired 40k this year, a ~15% reduction in number of hours they can work will require 100k more truckers being needed, there are about 30k vacancies, and they have a 98% turnover rate. How does that work? That makes it seem like there are roughly 600k truckers currently, so a 98% turnover should be more like 600k hires per year surely?
 
2013-06-13 01:06:11 PM  
If you give me weed, whites and wine....
 
2013-06-13 01:06:23 PM  

mod3072: I doubt if pay is really the over-riding issue. It seems like those guys get paid pretty decent money for what is, essentially, unskilled labor. My guess, and I could be completely full of shiat, is that it is the lifestyle. It's just not for everyone. Being away from home for long stretches of time, living out of the tiny sleeper cab of a semi, eating out all the time, etc. The long-haul trucker is a different breed. The guys that I know who drive truck locally and can go to work all day and be home with momma at night seem to really enjoy it. Most of the guys that I know who have gone into long-haul trucking burn out in a year or two. I think you could pay these guys $100k/yr. and still have pretty high turnover. Not as bad as it is now, but a lot of people still wouldn't be able to hack it.


Heh, unskilled labor huh? 
Ever try to even park a truck carrying 20 tons of equipment between two other 53' trailers? How about managing weight distribution and knowing how to adjust airbrake pressure controls? 
What about being able to deftly maneuver through a bunch of maniac in cars during rush hour, while remaining as calm as a Pope because you simply don't feel like filling out paperwork that would be involved for wiping out that jackass in his SUV who just cut you off?

Unskilled?
 Your mom is unskilled.
/yes that was a bit of a troll. but seriously, just because they arent stock brokers doesnt make them unskilled.
 
2013-06-13 01:07:35 PM  

Ponzholio: Mentat: Jubeebee: 38,000 a year for driving 10 hours a day, six days a week, eating nothing but fast food, and getting the herp from truckstop hookers? Wow, where do I sign up?

And knowing that at any moment Buffy McBoobjob will cut you off in her Prius on the interstate going 80 mph because she doesn't understand that law of conservation of momentum?

The plus side is that if there is a collision, you're going to be the one walking away.


Tell that to my cousin.
 
2013-06-13 01:12:10 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: GilRuiz1: How do Russians and others get work Visas to enter the US and become truck drivers? Is there like a huge pool of trucker Visas waiting to be taken?

H1-B


LOLWUT???

H1-B is for jobs that typically require AT LEAST a Bachelor's degree, and MUST be sponsored by the organization doing the hiring.

I am highly doubtful that ICE would accept that "Truck Driver" REQUIRES a Bachelor's degree.

Also an H1-B3 could be used for a Fashion Model........so there may be a loop hole here as I've seen truckers modeling flannel and ripped T-shirts quite consistently.

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243 c6 a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=73566811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD&vgnextc hannel=73566811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD
 
2013-06-13 01:13:16 PM  
Followup, you're thinking of H-2B
 
2013-06-13 01:20:44 PM  

wingnut396: The Stealth Hippopotamus: What does mean for you? Everything you have, use or see was brought here on a truck. Costs are going to skyrocket. And do you think you're buying safer road with this?!

Why do we rely on trunks for so much OTR anyway?  I understand the need for "last mile" delivery, but why trucks over rail?  Does the rail system just suck that much?


no rail I'd in fact better but truckers are entitled scumbags that vandalize cargo on rail.
 
2013-06-13 01:26:19 PM  

gfid: If you give me weed, whites and wine....


You know, Tuscon to Tumcumari isn't really that far. Just under 600 miles, and all Interstate.

Tehacapi to Tonopah isn't that big a deal, either.

Now, if the song was about hauling hazards over Loveland Pass on a snowy February night, maybe we've got something...
 
2013-06-13 01:31:07 PM  

Uzzah: gfid: If you give me weed, whites and wine....

You know, Tuscon to Tumcumari isn't really that far. Just under 600 miles, and all Interstate.

Tehacapi to Tonopah isn't that big a deal, either.

Now, if the song was about hauling hazards over Loveland Pass on a snowy February night, maybe we've got something...


What about busting the gates at 98?
 
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