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(Talking Points Memo)   NSA director: PRISM disrupted "dozens of attacks", they can't tell you which ones, but you can trust them on this. Totes   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 8
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2013-06-13 08:45:37 AM
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But they're in Canada, you wouldn't know them
2013-06-13 08:48:54 AM
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You're being snarky, subby. Ha, ha, I get snarky. But to be serious for a moment, seriously, what you have to remember is that if there's a successful terrorist attack, that attack becomes an inspiration for other terrorists. Who then plan other attacks, and if they're successful those in turn become inspirations. So there's a ripple effect that ripples out like ripples from even a single event, see? So, realistically, once you factor in those and other extrapolatables, stopping even 1 attack is actually the equivalent to stopping ten, thirty, a hundred potential attacks. Hell, it could even be a thousand attacks if you really factor it out. Try to not be so cynical and maybe show some gratitude here; imagine if there had been 1000 terrorist attacks last year.
2013-06-13 10:45:32 AM
1 votes:
Yep we have to monitor everyone in the country (world) in order to stop attacks by people so dangerous we can't possibly put them on trial.
2013-06-13 10:39:59 AM
1 votes:
In the track White Lines Grandmaster Melle Mel raps, "Ounce for once its costs more than gold!"

Is he talking about:

a) Cocaine
b) Diamonds
c) Inkjet Printer Ink
2013-06-13 10:06:46 AM
1 votes:

skozlaw: LasersHurt: If your complaint is that it's non-zero and you want zero

My complaint is that it's non-zero and we have no way of knowing what non-zero number it is, when it happens, what the impact is, or why it happens.

It's the complete blackout on it. I will never accept that anything the government does is necessary or justifiable when it is completely blacked out from the public.


Well gosh if only it had recently come to light and is now the subject of huge scrutiny.
2013-06-13 09:30:22 AM
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Pocket Ninja: You're being snarky, subby. Ha, ha, I get snarky. But to be serious for a moment, seriously, what you have to remember is that if there's a successful terrorist attack, that attack becomes an inspiration for other terrorists. Who then plan other attacks, and if they're successful those in turn become inspirations. So there's a ripple effect that ripples out like ripples from even a single event, see? So, realistically, once you factor in those and other extrapolatables, stopping even 1 attack is actually the equivalent to stopping ten, thirty, a hundred potential attacks. Hell, it could even be a thousand attacks if you really factor it out. Try to not be so cynical and maybe show some gratitude here; imagine if there had been 1000 terrorist attacks last year.


So by saying "dozens of attacks,"  he's really saying negative 500 attacks?
2013-06-13 09:10:09 AM
1 votes:

LasersHurt: Fail in Human Form: How so?

I honestly don't understand how this needs clarification. He said "The potential for abuse far outweighs any benefit in using this method to prevent terrorists attacks. " This asserts that there is NO AMOUNT of good that could ever outweigh some theoretical abuse in the future.

My objection to this in NO WAY implies that abuse is IMPOSSIBLE, or that gov't employees who abused it would be "above reproach." I really don't know where you're getting this connection.


I said it because I believe there IS no amount of good that could justify a program such as this.  I'm willing to accept the risk.  I'm not willing to hand over my entire life to the government simply because they tell me, "it's for my own good."
2013-06-13 09:02:15 AM
1 votes:
Sure. I know this to be true, I asked my wife, Morgan Fairchild, whom I've seen naked.
 
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