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(Politico)   "Treason is a tough sell in Snowden case" How about sedition? Minor sedition? Jaywalking?   (politico.com) divider line 206
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2013-06-13 10:37:50 PM
If "leaking secrets" were considered treason, just about every president we've had as well as most of congress would have wound up in jail.
 
2013-06-14 12:43:20 AM
George Washington had a price of his head for Treason against the ruling government of his day ...
 
2013-06-14 01:14:55 AM

This text is now purple: Snowden, Constitutionally, had an explicit duty to reveal this program. A federal employee is obligated to reveal unconstitutional actions.


You can't be for the Constitution and against the government!  That's impossible!
 
2013-06-14 02:02:56 AM
Snowden deserves more respect than any of the clowns in our govt and media. Oh and Jeffery Toobin and his fellow media elite are a bunch of coonts.
 
2013-06-14 04:57:09 AM

dittybopper: mrshowrules: badhatharry: He was defending the Constitution and American people. He needs to come back explain it to a jury of his peers.

Good point.  I would never convict him of anything if I was on a jury.

I have to say, I'd have a hard time wrestling with it.

I used to work indirectly for the NSA, and yes, I've got some Top Secret stuff in my noggin (even if it's all over 20 years out of date).  In fact, my job was to actually intercept foreign communications.  That's what a 'ditty bopper' is, someone who is a Morse code interceptor.

I get a serious case of the creeps when SIGINT stuff is revealed, but on the other hand, back when I was in, FISA was taken *VERY* seriously, apparently much more seriously than it is now.  We were told in no uncertain terms that intercepting the communications of "United States Persons" was verboten except under some very narrow circumstances.

So I'm not really sure how I would vote on a jury deciding this case.  On the one hand, I don't want to encourage the leaking of classified information, but on the other hand, this particular program he leaked should be considered intolerable by anyone who is concerned about their privacy.


Well, it's obvious you wouldn't get picked for a jury.  You have too much intelligence for the government and worked SIGINT which would get you a preemptive strike from either side.
 
2013-06-14 06:57:34 PM

just_intonation: Well, it's obvious you wouldn't get picked for a jury.  You have too much intelligence for the government and worked SIGINT which would get you a preemptive strike from either side.


Well, DUH.

Of course, I could just act dumb.  Answer truthfully, but not volunteer anything.  Act like my mouth-breathin' huntin' buddies, that sort of thing.  I could even I was a Morse code radio operator in the Army if they ask about my military service*.   I wouldn't have to mention anything about me being a big fan of SIGINT unless they pointedly ask.  Certainly, I wouldn't have to mention that I'm familiar with how FISA worked back when it actually protected the citizens of the United States from being monitored.  Again, unless asked.


*It's even technically true, the best kind of true.
 
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