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(Mother Nature Network)   Now that it no longer works, the International Space Station's first treadmill is going to be: A) enshrined in the Smithsonian B) put on display in Moscow's Red Square C) jettisoned into space   ( divider line
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2013-06-13 07:58:51 AM  
3 votes:




For a moment, I thought the C.O.L.B.E.R.T. was the first treadmill on the ISS, and was expecting there to be hell to pay. Nevermind. Crisis averted.

So, uh, does anyone even make any non-crew-rated resupply vehicles that survive reentry? Because, if not, I'm not sure what else anyone would expect them to do. Space is kind of at a premium on the ISS and you don't want to add clutter by tossing it into orbit.

It knew what it was getting into when it launched up there. I say let it burn. ;)
2013-06-13 09:24:57 AM  
2 votes:
TIL that human beings can have emotional attachments to treadmills they didn't even know existed until said treadmill gets thrown away....
2013-06-13 08:26:57 PM  
1 vote:

DewJunkie: Woudn't it make more sense to drop them on the moon, that way if we ever decide to do something there, there will be some raw materials to scavange?

Do you realize how much Δv that takes?!?!

It's about 4km/sec if you want to hard-land it (which isn't going to make for much to salvage) or 6.4 to soft-land.  That's 2/3 of what it took to get it to orbit at all and given the tyranny of the rocket equation that actually means it's far harder than lifting it from Earth was in the first place.

digitalrain: I get that space is a premium on the ISS but I also have a problem with just jettisoning crap that
they don't want anymore into space. Yes, space seems infinite to us right now so we might think
"what's a little space debris here or there? there's still plenty of room". Folks thought that way
about Earth for the longest time and just look at all the crap and waste humans leave lying about
on it.

I'm not a tree hugging uber environmentalist or anything (nttiawwt) but it just
use space as a farking trashcan. And yes, I know there's been man made space debris for just
about as long as we've had men up in space. Doesn't make it any more palatable.

Debris in low orbits is already a serious problem.  That's why the Chinese ASAT test was so upsetting--it threw a bunch of debris around.  (We were much more careful, our ASAT demonstration in response was carried out in a fashion that the debris burned.)

Firethorn: If it wasn't for the orbit being one that needs frequent adjustment, I'd be for storing all the waste up there and eventually building/sending up industrial equipment, possibly starting with a 'solar forge' that would allow astronauts to melt and reshape metals into shielding, if nothing else. Metals aren't ideal for shielding(it gets complicated), but the idea is that eventually all you really need to launch is the astronauts themselves, you have hydroponics to keep them fed, full recycling, etc...

Yup, the idea of dumping the shuttle tanks into the atmosphere has always struck me as a horrible idea.

What we need to do is put a little ion-drive powered tug in orbit.  It would have a pusher plate to shove things and it would have a laser capable of firing high power pulses.  (Yes, this could be called an ASAT weapon as the laser would have destructive potential.  That treaty is effectively dead anyway.)  It could nudge things up or down and if something was tumbling and not safe to approach it could use the laser.  Get in front and start firing pulses, vaporizing tiny bits of the offending satellite.  Newton would slowly bring it down.
2013-06-13 12:01:09 PM  
1 vote:

Jacob_Roberson: Who cares? They dropped Mir into the atmosphere to let it burn up, and Mir was the first space station. Ever.

apod.nasa.govView Full Size

Launched 13 years before Mir.
2013-06-13 10:31:48 AM  
1 vote:
The Creator must join with T'Mil.
2013-06-13 10:03:04 AM  
1 vote:
And one more time the assinine tag applies more to the subby than the content.   There is no justifiable way to bring that back down so that it could go in a museum.    Now, if you want it back on earth, that's not a big problem.  Just put it in a decaying orbit that will land in Australia somewhere (because fark australia)
2013-06-13 09:32:24 AM  
1 vote:
Woudn't it make more sense to drop them on the moon, that way if we ever decide to do something there, there will be some raw materials to scavange?
2013-06-13 09:31:26 AM  
1 vote:
But what will the astronauts drape their dirty laundry on now?
2013-06-13 09:30:56 AM  
1 vote:
Hey, maybe they'll get lucky and it will land on a museum?
2013-06-13 08:04:02 AM  
1 vote:
Bit I did walk 5 trillion miles
And I would walk 5 trillion more
2013-06-13 07:49:02 AM  
1 vote:
Yes, but it will be done majestically while The Blue Danube is played.
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