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(Mother Nature Network)   Now that it no longer works, the International Space Station's first treadmill is going to be: A) enshrined in the Smithsonian B) put on display in Moscow's Red Square C) jettisoned into space   (mnn.com) divider line 110
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2013-06-13 10:24:24 AM

Monkey: Can't they just use it to pile up their dirty laundry? Or at least let it float around near it?


Ours is a display for part of our dust collection.
 
2013-06-13 10:26:14 AM
Who cares? They dropped Mir into the atmosphere to let it burn up, and Mir was the first space station. Ever.
 
2013-06-13 10:27:31 AM
SPACE JUNK YAY!!!

Should've just sent it downward to burn up in the atmosphere.
 
2013-06-13 10:27:34 AM
zedster:wrong, it will start it when they think we are telling them they should lose some weight

Only if they're female aliens.
 
2013-06-13 10:28:58 AM
Send it back to the Sun. Get your money back
 
2013-06-13 10:30:46 AM

meanmutton: oldfarthenry: It will probably plummet back to earth and nail some Russian broad right in the babushka.
That country seems to have the luck with getting hit by space debris.

It's kind of a big country.


Will it result in fields of fire?
 
2013-06-13 10:31:48 AM
The Creator must join with T'Mil.
 
2013-06-13 10:35:15 AM

Loren: mamoru: So, uh, does anyone even make any non-crew-rated resupply vehicles that survive reentry? Because, if not, I'm not sure what else anyone would expect them to do. Space is kind of at a premium on the ISS and you don't want to add clutter by tossing it into orbit.

Exactly.  What else is there to do?

There's no reason to put a shield and parachutes on a resupply vehicle.  That's a lot of weight that can't be used for supplies.

FrancoFile: SpaceX Dragon

The Dragon is intended to be manned.  It's just not rated *YET*.



The Dragon comes in two versions - cargo and manned.  The cargo is operational, the manned is still in development.

The Dragon supply runs to the ISS have included substantial biological sample returns.  They've also returned failed equipment so it can be analyzed and redesigned.

Just go to the SpaceX website and you can read all about it....
 
2013-06-13 10:37:27 AM
Pffft, just hire a maid to clean that shiat up...

img828.imageshack.us
 
2013-06-13 10:39:46 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: Lt. Cheese Weasel: I always kinda liked Tommy Lee Jones' spot on the moon. Just sitting there, chillin out, for all eternity.

Cheesiest ending to a movie in recent history


Hey! I love every moment of that movie! And the ending is... apropos.
 
2013-06-13 10:41:02 AM
Jeeze you think the ISS would have tools and an engineer or two laying around that could fix it.
 
2013-06-13 10:44:41 AM

darch: IdBeCrazyIf: Lt. Cheese Weasel: I always kinda liked Tommy Lee Jones' spot on the moon. Just sitting there, chillin out, for all eternity.

Cheesiest ending to a movie in recent history

Hey! I love every moment of that movie! And the ending is... apropos.


I will give them this, they never did take the entire thing seriously so it wasn't THAT bad
 
2013-06-13 10:47:15 AM

Egoy3k: I think the Smithsonian will survive without adding a space treadmill to their collection submitter. It's not exactly Neil Armstrong's Helmet in terms of importance now is it?


I dunno, sometimes very important treadmills end up in museums.

blog.newsarama.com
 
2013-06-13 10:50:10 AM

OtherLittleGuy: CGI is expensive, even back then.


CGI was expensive.
 
2013-06-13 10:50:51 AM
And it will take a few laps around the sun and return to earth as a destructive meteor, destroying a KFC in suburban Chicago.
 
2013-06-13 10:52:48 AM
cdn.static.ovimg.com
 
2013-06-13 10:53:53 AM
I want to say the TVIS was a pos, but it wasn't its fault. Dumbasses called it crit 3 and built it crit 3. Should have been 1R or 2S. If we weren't replacing wire isolaters every couple of weeks, the bungees would break or the computer would be all jacked up. Replacing the fly wheel was a royal pain in the ass. R&R of the slats was quite a chore too.

Still good to see it get its due. IRED or the cycle ergometer won't get the same press.
 
2013-06-13 10:56:25 AM

oldfarthenry: [www.yourtownnews.ca image 466x441]
I wonder if this guitar will ever make it back to earth?
(or get El Kabonged over someone's head during an international argument over `not flushing' correctly?)


That guitar is probably now worth more than its weight in moon rocks.  Destined for a museum, hopefully.
 
2013-06-13 10:56:55 AM
Will they do the same with the Bieber when her little jaunt into space is over?
 
2013-06-13 11:00:28 AM
If you've ever worked on an used club treadmill you'll know that "flaming debris" is the preferable option.
 
2013-06-13 11:06:10 AM

DewJunkie: Woudn't it make more sense to drop them on the moon, that way if we ever decide to do something there, there will be some raw materials to scavange?


And how exactly we we get them there?  The moon's orbit is between 362,500 km and 405,400 km, while the ISS orbits between 407 and 422 km; or in other words, the ISS is about 1% of the way to the moon.
 To get the unmanned Russian capsule with its contents to the moon from the ISS it would need to bring up a lot of extra fuel. If you want its decent/landing area on the moon to be somewhat controlled then it would also need fuel for a landing system, since parachutes are out. Or if we just crash it into the moon then you have a bunch of scattered metal and plastic in some random location.
   The amount of resource it would take to get that junk to the moon would far exceed any benefit the scrap material would give.
 
2013-06-13 11:07:59 AM
I get that space is a premium on the ISS but I also have a problem with just jettisoning crap that
they don't want anymore into space. Yes, space seems infinite to us right now so we might think
"what's a little space debris here or there? there's still plenty of room". Folks thought that way
about Earth for the longest time and just look at all the crap and waste humans leave lying about
on it.

I'm not a tree hugging uber environmentalist or anything (nttiawwt) but it just seems...wrong...to
use space as a farking trashcan. And yes, I know there's been man made space debris for just
about as long as we've had men up in space. Doesn't make it any more palatable.
 
2013-06-13 11:13:54 AM
I use mine as a clothes hanger.  Until Christmas, at which it transforms into a Christmas tree
(and clothes hanger)
 
2013-06-13 11:13:59 AM

mamoru: So, uh, does anyone even make any non-crew-rated resupply vehicles that survive reentry? Because, if not, I'm not sure what else anyone would expect them to do. Space is kind of at a premium on the ISS and you don't want to add clutter by tossing it into orbit.


Maybe they could put it in the next Dragon... not yet man rated, but designed to be.
 
2013-06-13 11:15:13 AM

digitalrain: I'm not a tree hugging uber environmentalist or anything (nttiawwt) but it just seems...wrong...to
use space as a farking trashcan. And yes, I know there's been man made space debris for just
about as long as we've had men up in space. Doesn't make it any more palatable.


It burns up in the atmosphere, by design.
 
2013-06-13 11:18:45 AM

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: DewJunkie: Woudn't it make more sense to drop them on the moon, that way if we ever decide to do something there, there will be some raw materials to scavange?

And how exactly we we get them there?  The moon's orbit is between 362,500 km and 405,400 km, while the ISS orbits between 407 and 422 km; or in other words, the ISS is about 1% of the way to the moon.
 To get the unmanned Russian capsule with its contents to the moon from the ISS it would need to bring up a lot of extra fuel. If you want its decent/landing area on the moon to be somewhat controlled then it would also need fuel for a landing system, since parachutes are out. Or if we just crash it into the moon then you have a bunch of scattered metal and plastic in some random location.
   The amount of resource it would take to get that junk to the moon would far exceed any benefit the scrap material would give.


Good points.  Also, the same cost/benefit analysis could be applied to retrieving all the frozen human remains from Mount Everest.  They ain't worth it, neither.
 
2013-06-13 11:19:15 AM
Dude, check it, a thirteen billion light-year deep....umm, well, not trash can exactly, but y'all know what I mean.

Yeah, gosh, we'll just fill that sucker right up in a trice.

/ashes are ashes and they'll add to the land
//even slagged metal...
 
2013-06-13 11:30:40 AM

digitalrain: I get that space is a premium on the ISS but I also have a problem with just jettisoning crap that
they don't want anymore into space. Yes, space seems infinite to us right now so we might think
"what's a little space debris here or there? there's still plenty of room". Folks thought that way
about Earth for the longest time and just look at all the crap and waste humans leave lying about
on it.

I'm not a tree hugging uber environmentalist or anything (nttiawwt) but it just seems...wrong...to
use space as a farking trashcan. And yes, I know there's been man made space debris for just
about as long as we've had men up in space. Doesn't make it any more palatable.


They generally jettison it in decaying orbit so it will burn up into the atmosphere.  They don't want to use space as a trash can; that just increases of the odds of losing satellites and spacecraft to collisions.
 
2013-06-13 11:31:35 AM
pool.theinfosphere.org


"Ah, the pity. Fated to drift forever through the void as gravity's plaything. Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee. "

http://www.tv.com/shows/futurama/godfellas-125571/
 
2013-06-13 11:38:58 AM
Asinine?  Like those other two lame ideas were better?
 
2013-06-13 11:39:49 AM
Came for Dark Star surfing reference

/haz a dissapoint
 
2013-06-13 11:49:07 AM

mamoru: So, uh, does anyone even make any non-crew-rated resupply vehicles that survive reentry? Because, if not, I'm not sure what else anyone would expect them to do. Space is kind of at a premium on the ISS and you don't want to add clutter by tossing it into orbit.


If it wasn't for the orbit being one that needs frequent adjustment, I'd be for storing all the waste up there and eventually building/sending up industrial equipment, possibly starting with a 'solar forge' that would allow astronauts to melt and reshape metals into shielding, if nothing else.  Metals aren't ideal for shielding(it gets complicated), but the idea is that eventually all you really need to launch is the astronauts themselves, you have hydroponics to keep them fed, full recycling, etc...
 
2013-06-13 11:56:21 AM
It will bounce out of orbit float in to deep space  be intercepted by interspace aerobics instructors and sent back to earth to tell us to go be fat somewhere else.

Star Trek III
/JJ YOU"RE WELCOME
 
2013-06-13 12:00:06 PM

oldfarthenry: [www.yourtownnews.ca image 466x441]
I wonder if this guitar will ever make it back to earth?
(or get El Kabonged over someone's head during an international argument over `not flushing' correctly?)


4.bp.blogspot.com

/Shamelessly hotlinked for your enjoyment
 
2013-06-13 12:00:29 PM

Jacob_Roberson: Who cares? They dropped Mir into the atmosphere to let it burn up, and Mir was the first space station. Ever.


Salyut
 
2013-06-13 12:01:09 PM

Jacob_Roberson: Who cares? They dropped Mir into the atmosphere to let it burn up, and Mir was the first space station. Ever.


apod.nasa.gov

Launched 13 years before Mir.
 
2013-06-13 12:02:57 PM

Egoy3k: Nobody should have a look of awe on their face when they get into a stable orbit but burned all of their fuel to get there and have no way to get home.


"I get to stay here forever? Sick."
 
2013-06-13 12:08:49 PM
They should just have a yard sale. Get rid of some other stuff that's just Laying floating around....
 
2013-06-13 12:17:13 PM
Jettison != trashed in Progress.

I had pictured them taking it outside and throwing it overboard, which would be awesome. Stuffing it in a Progress is significantly more boring.
 
2013-06-13 12:19:38 PM

Satanic_Hamster: digitalrain: I get that space is a premium on the ISS but I also have a problem with just jettisoning crap that
they don't want anymore into space. Yes, space seems infinite to us right now so we might think
"what's a little space debris here or there? there's still plenty of room". Folks thought that way
about Earth for the longest time and just look at all the crap and waste humans leave lying about
on it.

I'm not a tree hugging uber environmentalist or anything (nttiawwt) but it just seems...wrong...to
use space as a farking trashcan. And yes, I know there's been man made space debris for just
about as long as we've had men up in space. Doesn't make it any more palatable.

They generally jettison it in decaying orbit so it will burn up into the atmosphere.  They don't want to use space as a trash can; that just increases of the odds of losing satellites and spacecraft to collisions.


Ah ok - did not know it was launched into decaying orbit. I had this vision of a man-made asteroid-like belt of crap floating around up there.
 
2013-06-13 12:22:41 PM

Sybarite: Yes, but it will be done majestically while The Blue Danube is played.


Wrong choice of music. If it doesn't use music from "2001 - A Space Odyssey", then it's a total fail.
 
2013-06-13 12:49:29 PM

digitalrain: Ah ok - did not know it was launched into decaying orbit. I had this vision of a man-made asteroid-like belt of crap floating around up there.


This is some.  Some in the past due to dumbassery/ignorance/not thinking of head, some due to miscalculations, etc.

You have to remember, the area where you can maintain a stable orbit is only so large.  And satellites / space craft are VERY expensive.  Even a small screw can take out something due to the speeds involved.   They do NOT want to hit ANYTHING.
 
2013-06-13 12:50:10 PM
Subby would rather spend a million dollars (at a rate of $16,000/lb) to drag home a broken piece of exercise equipment? That's pretty asinine. How about we spend that million dollars on something more worthwhile
 
2013-06-13 01:04:41 PM

Albert911emt: Sybarite: Yes, but it will be done majestically while The Blue Danube is played.

Wrong choice of music. If it doesn't use music from "2001 - A Space Odyssey", then it's a total fail.


Not sure if stupid or trolling...
 
2013-06-13 01:06:42 PM

Albert911emt: Sybarite: Yes, but it will be done majestically while The Blue Danube is played.

Wrong choice of music. If it doesn't use music from "2001 - A Space Odyssey", then it's a total fail.


Awesome

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2013-06-13 01:10:33 PM

Langdon Alger: Salyut


orbister: Skylab


Hmm ok, according to Wikipedia I'm misremembering because Mir was the first modular space station, and the first to be assembled in orbit, and much larger/heavier than any earlier stations. But wasn't actually the first space station.
 
2013-06-13 01:26:40 PM

barefoot in the head: The Creator must join with T'Mil.


a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com
sees what you did there carbon unit.
/hot like a bald kimbata
 
2013-06-13 01:34:57 PM

Albert911emt: Sybarite: Yes, but it will be done majestically while The Blue Danube is played.

Wrong choice of music. If it doesn't use music from "2001 - A Space Odyssey", then it's a total fail.


Someone doesn't remember the inflight meal.
 
2013-06-13 01:43:37 PM

Firethorn: mamoru: So, uh, does anyone even make any non-crew-rated resupply vehicles that survive reentry? Because, if not, I'm not sure what else anyone would expect them to do. Space is kind of at a premium on the ISS and you don't want to add clutter by tossing it into orbit.

If it wasn't for the orbit being one that needs frequent adjustment, I'd be for storing all the waste up there and eventually building/sending up industrial equipment, possibly starting with a 'solar forge' that would allow astronauts to melt and reshape metals into shielding, if nothing else.  Metals aren't ideal for shielding(it gets complicated), but the idea is that eventually all you really need to launch is the astronauts themselves, you have hydroponics to keep them fed, full recycling, etc...


The more stuff you have on the space station the more fuel it takes to keep it up there. Friction is a big problem at such a low orbit.
 
2013-06-13 01:50:29 PM

puddleonfire: SPACE JUNK YAY!!!

Should've just sent it downward to burn up in the atmosphere.


Want to know how I know you didn't RTFA? :D
 
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