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2013-06-13 02:18:08 AM
4 votes:

NewportBarGuy: I don't really care if it gets people to read the Classics. The stories of ancient Greece and Rome should be told in this way so future generations can at least have a tenuous grasp on what they did to found modern civilization.

We can't make them read Plato's Republic or Livy or Herodotus... But these movies at least give them a fantastical glimpse of what occurred thousands of years ago. Let us just hope they learn from it and not use it as a model.


No no no NO
This is as dumb as the history ride in the movie  idiocracy.  the Battle of marathon being used as a sequel the Battle of Thermopylae really?  would be As anachronistic and ridiculous as George Washington and General Cornwallis staging a re-match as Gettysburg.

giving more screen time to this nonsense just sucks the air put of Amy chance for a good movie that tells the real story..just as the 300 pretty much killed a movie adaptation of "Gates of Fire" that was in the works at the same,e time-wjich is a real tragedy
2013-06-12 10:37:37 PM
4 votes:
I don't really care if it gets people to read the Classics. The stories of ancient Greece and Rome should be told in this way so future generations can at least have a tenuous grasp on what they did to found modern civilization.

We can't make them read Plato's Republic or Livy or Herodotus... But these movies at least give them a fantastical glimpse of what occurred thousands of years ago. Let us just hope they learn from it and not use it as a model.
2013-06-13 01:56:35 AM
3 votes:

The Banana Thug: And is Eva Green supposed to be hot?  She looks like she could double for Kristen Stewart, with that same expressionless I'm-dead-inside face


Granted they both keep their same expressions but Kristin's is "Who has the bong?" Whereas Eva is "I'm going to rip your cock off with my pussy".

screencrave.com

so there's a subtle difference
2013-06-13 11:29:23 AM
2 votes:

Son of Thunder: Did you seriously just equate a movie that (at some level) is supposed to be about historical stuff that actually happened with a comic book adaptation?


300 was also a comic book adaptation.  And that comic was also intended to be told as if was an oral history full of embellishments and mystical elements.  And this movie is about the Battles of Artemisium and Salamis which did happen right after Thermopylae so stop freaking out and thinking we're all in Idiocracy.  That's idiocy.
2013-06-13 12:39:50 AM
2 votes:
Direct link to the trailer on YouTube, just in case any of you hate io9 as much as I do.
2013-06-13 12:33:56 AM
2 votes:
First Trailer for 300: Rise of an Empire Delivers Hot, Sweaty Action

Mmmmm... I'd like to see some hot, sweaty action between Lena Heady and Ava Green.
2013-06-13 04:25:13 PM
1 votes:

TheJoe03: FLMountainMan: Making it the first movie ever to use artifical means to distinguish the good guys from the bad guys.  Oh, and Greeks were paler then.

I know, Hollywood had been racist for a long time. Brown to them is bad and white is good. I also know Greeks are lighter than Persians, but they never looked like pale northern Europeans.


They didn't speak english either!!

How shiatty of them to not make it accurate!

It's necessary to take some liberties like that when appealing to an english speaking populace as a whole.

It's not even that Hollywood is racist, it that it believes a large chunk of the viewership would rather watch/believe/understand/empathize with the the european archetype.  They are not wrong.

You're like a person complaining there aren't enough whites on BET programming.

No, they're appealing to specific parts of real world culture and how they identify with characters on the screen.  It's not even racism of the populace at large, but typical human psychology.

Also, it's about uniformity of the cast within that given group, and what you have to work with as far as actors.  If you use an established actor for star power(pure marketing here), such as Butler, the rest of his people need to more or less resemble him or it breaks the illusion.  Accents, skin tone, etc.

It's not like you could put Jaime Foxx, Snoop Dog, Richard Prior, Tyler Perry, etc in these roles, same as you couldn't use Eminem, Jaime Kennedy, Mark Whalberg, Ben Afflec, Kevin Costner etc.

Using people with the european english(UK/Scot/Irish - to include australian) is simply standard, because most other accents are just too jarring to the viewer, and to most viewers, that accent inspires feelings of how people sounded back then even if they didn't).  Look how much flack Kevin Costner caught with his relatively light accent in Robin Hood.

But you can't use actual grecian or persian actors, there aren't enough that speak comprehensible(to the public at large) english to flesh out racial bodies of the times back then(that also fit the roles well). And even if you could, you lose the draw of star power that is a real thing with a purpose.  A lot of people don't like to watch "no-name" actors, at the very least, it's a risky thing.  Using stars that are known and have some following allows the viewer to not feel like it's a gamble.

It's not about racism at all.  It's about delivering the content that appeals to as many people as possible.

Give your race card a break man. Society has got enough problems without you attempting to create more.
2013-06-13 02:41:44 PM
1 votes:
This movie is a blast from start to end. Eva Green is hot as can be, and the sound is incredible. Well, I am a bit biased as myself and the crew I work with are doing the sound job.
2013-06-13 01:13:34 PM
1 votes:

scottydoesntknow: buntz: You know what they never address in these sword & sandals movies?  The fatigue these guys must get in their arms from swinging those swords all day long!

I know it would be a pretty dull scene in a movie, but all these movies where guys are slicing through enemies like butter (300, Lord of the Rings, et. al.) they never touch on the fact that you may be the greatest swordsman in the world with, obviously, the sharpest sword ever, but damn, your arm would eventually give out!!

/wet blanket

I agree. Have you ever read "Gates of Fire"? It's a retelling of the battle of Thermopylae told through the eyes of a slave (only survivor pulled out of the bodies, Xerxes ordered his saving so he could learn as much as he could about the Spartans). It goes into detail about their training and the severe fatigue they suffered.

You feel like they missed a chance to humanize them a little bit.


That would be completely missing the point. Humanizing them is the complete opposite of what they were going for.
2013-06-13 12:23:08 PM
1 votes:

Alphax: The work PC doesn't do video well, or sound for that matter.  (checks the IMDB app on my iPhone)  Ah!  There it is.  Be right back, getting my earbuds out..


Why did you bother typing that?
2013-06-13 11:23:52 AM
1 votes:

Modified Cornstarch: brunette fivehead alert


Are guys unaware of how much they sound like biatchy queens when they write stuff like this?
2013-06-13 11:14:24 AM
1 votes:

BilltheThrill: Son of Thunder:

Did you seriously just equate a movie that (at some level) is supposed to be about historical stuff that actually happened with a comic book adaptation?

The movie is "supposed to be about historical stuff"?  Are you farking high?


In the sense that the Battle of Thermopylae happened, yes. What Son of Thunder is saying is a lot of people's only exposure to that battle is the movie "300", so they walk out with this idea that they're all super-soldiers with adamantium swords and basically gods among men, when it really isn't the truth at all.

It would be like finding out someone's only exposure to World War II was after watching Inglorious Basterds. Fun movie, but completely distorts the facts in every way.
2013-06-13 10:48:10 AM
1 votes:

NewportBarGuy: I don't really care if it gets people to read the Classics. The stories of ancient Greece and Rome should be told in this way so future generations can at least have a tenuous grasp on what they did to found modern civilization.

We can't make them read Plato's Republic or Livy or Herodotus... But these movies at least give them a fantastical glimpse of what occurred thousands of years ago. Let us just hope they learn from it and not use it as a model.


I'm going to make a movie about the ancient far east where Sun Tzu's opening of the first Zoo eventually causes the Zhou dynasty to collapse hundreds of years later. It's going to be a family friendly movie, a lighthearted comedy starring Jackie Chan. That will teach the kids about that period in antiquity.
2013-06-13 09:34:45 AM
1 votes:

buntz: You know what they never address in these sword & sandals movies?  The fatigue these guys must get in their arms from swinging those swords all day long!

I know it would be a pretty dull scene in a movie, but all these movies where guys are slicing through enemies like butter (300, Lord of the Rings, et. al.) they never touch on the fact that you may be the greatest swordsman in the world with, obviously, the sharpest sword ever, but damn, your arm would eventually give out!!

/wet blanket


I agree. Have you ever read "Gates of Fire"? It's a retelling of the battle of Thermopylae told through the eyes of a slave (only survivor pulled out of the bodies, Xerxes ordered his saving so he could learn as much as he could about the Spartans). It goes into detail about their training and the severe fatigue they suffered.

You feel like they missed a chance to humanize them a little bit.
2013-06-13 09:01:05 AM
1 votes:
No David Wenham?  Sadface
2013-06-13 04:08:40 AM
1 votes:
Funny how they use pale British guys to portray the Greeks and tan Mexicans to portray the Persians.
2013-06-13 04:06:48 AM
1 votes:
Will it be as gay as the first film? NTTAWWT
2013-06-13 03:07:47 AM
1 votes:
Crap. I thought the movie would be about a rare breed of Chrysler sports coupe that saw its best years from 1955-1961.
2013-06-13 01:44:18 AM
1 votes:
Meh.

Already saw it when it was called 300.
2013-06-13 01:38:34 AM
1 votes:
Well, SOME CGI people and combat trainers need work after 300: The Series...or, I mean, Spartacus: Boobs and Penii...
2013-06-13 01:37:32 AM
1 votes:
Looks like they ripped off the "Battle of Blackwater" scene from Game of Thrones.

And is Eva Green supposed to be hot?  She looks like she could double for Kristen Stewart, with that same expressionless I'm-dead-inside face.
2013-06-13 01:36:00 AM
1 votes:

NewportBarGuy: We can't make them read Plato's Republic or Livy or Herodotus...


The hell we can't.
2013-06-13 01:24:10 AM
1 votes:

ferretman: Looks like it's about the battle of Marathon (which was decades prior to the Battle of Thermopylae)...except instead of Xeres father, they have Xeres doing it.


It covers a time period from Marathon to Salamis.

Needs more loincloth.
 
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