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2013-06-12 10:37:37 PM  
I don't really care if it gets people to read the Classics. The stories of ancient Greece and Rome should be told in this way so future generations can at least have a tenuous grasp on what they did to found modern civilization.

We can't make them read Plato's Republic or Livy or Herodotus... But these movies at least give them a fantastical glimpse of what occurred thousands of years ago. Let us just hope they learn from it and not use it as a model.
 
2013-06-13 12:05:24 AM  
I'm glad, disapointed and surprised they didn't call it 600 =P
 
2013-06-13 12:17:38 AM  
Looks like it's about the battle of Marathon (which was decades prior to the Battle of Thermopylae)...except instead of Xeres father, they have Xeres doing it.
 
2013-06-13 12:33:56 AM  
First Trailer for 300: Rise of an Empire Delivers Hot, Sweaty Action

Mmmmm... I'd like to see some hot, sweaty action between Lena Heady and Ava Green.
 
2013-06-13 12:39:50 AM  
Direct link to the trailer on YouTube, just in case any of you hate io9 as much as I do.
 
2013-06-13 12:53:20 AM  
Hey, will everything speed up and stop and speed up again and go in slo-motion? And will the Wachowskis sue this time?

I keed, I keed, I liked 300.

The frame rate will rise. The frame rate will fall. Motion will stop. And then frame rate will rise. And then Eva Green will arise. And my pants will rise.
 
2013-06-13 01:24:10 AM  

ferretman: Looks like it's about the battle of Marathon (which was decades prior to the Battle of Thermopylae)...except instead of Xeres father, they have Xeres doing it.


It covers a time period from Marathon to Salamis.

Needs more loincloth.
 
2013-06-13 01:33:13 AM  
So Damien Scott gets to bed Vesper Lynd.

Lucky bastard.

/not quite "Shut up and take my money" material yet, but I'm intrigued.
 
2013-06-13 01:35:04 AM  

mamoru: Direct link to the trailer on YouTube, just in case any of you hate io9 as much as I do.


301+ views
Like 3,262 Dislike 68

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301+ views
Like 3,295 Dislike 69 Mindsblown 1
::BLAM:: The council of 299 is adjourned.
 
2013-06-13 01:35:41 AM  
Noam Murrow. Gee
 
2013-06-13 01:36:00 AM  

NewportBarGuy: We can't make them read Plato's Republic or Livy or Herodotus...


The hell we can't.
 
2013-06-13 01:37:32 AM  
Looks like they ripped off the "Battle of Blackwater" scene from Game of Thrones.

And is Eva Green supposed to be hot?  She looks like she could double for Kristen Stewart, with that same expressionless I'm-dead-inside face.
 
2013-06-13 01:38:34 AM  
Well, SOME CGI people and combat trainers need work after 300: The Series...or, I mean, Spartacus: Boobs and Penii...
 
2013-06-13 01:39:12 AM  

NewportBarGuy: I don't really care if it gets people to read the Classics. The stories of ancient Greece and Rome should be told in this way so future generations can at least have a tenuous grasp on what they did to found modern civilization.

We can't make them read Plato's Republic or Livy or Herodotus... But these movies at least give them a fantastical glimpse of what occurred thousands of years ago. Let us just hope they learn from it and not use it as a model.


Great thought, great post. Would have liked a little less obvious graphic novel style special effects in the original, but I suspect that;s generational.
 
2013-06-13 01:44:18 AM  
Meh.

Already saw it when it was called 300.
 
2013-06-13 01:55:12 AM  

Spaced Lion: NewportBarGuy: We can't make them read Plato's Republic or Livy or Herodotus...

The hell we can't.


You got some kind of Clockwork Orange or Vulcan mind meld type plan in mind to do that?

/You can make them read it, but you can't make them understand or care
 
2013-06-13 01:55:35 AM  
300 2: 300er
 
2013-06-13 01:56:35 AM  

The Banana Thug: And is Eva Green supposed to be hot?  She looks like she could double for Kristen Stewart, with that same expressionless I'm-dead-inside face


Granted they both keep their same expressions but Kristin's is "Who has the bong?" Whereas Eva is "I'm going to rip your cock off with my pussy".

screencrave.com

so there's a subtle difference
 
2013-06-13 02:03:26 AM  
Looks like crap.
 
2013-06-13 02:14:23 AM  

ferretman: Looks like it's about the battle of Marathon (which was decades prior to the Battle of Thermopylae)...except instead of Xeres father, they have Xeres doing it.


More likely it's the Battle of Salamis.

If they want to keep going and do the Peloponnesian War next, that's alright with me.
 
2013-06-13 02:16:39 AM  
The work PC doesn't do video well, or sound for that matter.  (checks the IMDB app on my iPhone)  Ah!  There it is.  Be right back, getting my earbuds out..
 
2013-06-13 02:18:08 AM  

NewportBarGuy: I don't really care if it gets people to read the Classics. The stories of ancient Greece and Rome should be told in this way so future generations can at least have a tenuous grasp on what they did to found modern civilization.

We can't make them read Plato's Republic or Livy or Herodotus... But these movies at least give them a fantastical glimpse of what occurred thousands of years ago. Let us just hope they learn from it and not use it as a model.


No no no NO
This is as dumb as the history ride in the movie  idiocracy.  the Battle of marathon being used as a sequel the Battle of Thermopylae really?  would be As anachronistic and ridiculous as George Washington and General Cornwallis staging a re-match as Gettysburg.

giving more screen time to this nonsense just sucks the air put of Amy chance for a good movie that tells the real story..just as the 300 pretty much killed a movie adaptation of "Gates of Fire" that was in the works at the same,e time-wjich is a real tragedy
 
2013-06-13 02:21:18 AM  
Hmm.. large scale, medevial naval warfare.  That's a little different.
 
2013-06-13 02:24:00 AM  
The only movie I've actually seen Eva Green in was the Dark Shadows movie.  And as she was the villian, and dressed in 1972 fashion, the blonde wig and heavy lipstick were a little off-putting.
 
2013-06-13 02:26:53 AM  

Alphax: The only movie I've actually seen Eva Green in was the Dark Shadows movie.  And as she was the villian, and dressed in 1972 fashion, the blonde wig and heavy lipstick were a little off-putting.


You didn't see Casino Royale?
 
2013-06-13 02:30:19 AM  
Sinced they show the head of Leonidas being cut off his corpse, I think it's fair to say that it directly follows 300 and has nothing to do with Marathon. This will cover Salamis, where it was the turn of the Athenian fleet to kick Persian ass. Of course it's comic-book stuff, but it looks like fun and some people will actually look up what really happened.
 
2013-06-13 02:31:29 AM  

Mugato: Alphax: The only movie I've actually seen Eva Green in was the Dark Shadows movie.  And as she was the villian, and dressed in 1972 fashion, the blonde wig and heavy lipstick were a little off-putting.

You didn't see Casino Royale?


Or The Dreamers?
 
2013-06-13 02:32:22 AM  

Mugato: Alphax: The only movie I've actually seen Eva Green in was the Dark Shadows movie.  And as she was the villian, and dressed in 1972 fashion, the blonde wig and heavy lipstick were a little off-putting.

You didn't see Casino Royale?


Or The Dreamers?
 
2013-06-13 02:33:02 AM  

VTGremlin: Mugato: Alphax: The only movie I've actually seen Eva Green in was the Dark Shadows movie.  And as she was the villian, and dressed in 1972 fashion, the blonde wig and heavy lipstick were a little off-putting.

You didn't see Casino Royale?

Or The Dreamers?


Damn you.
 
2013-06-13 02:34:15 AM  

Mugato: Alphax: The only movie I've actually seen Eva Green in was the Dark Shadows movie.  And as she was the villian, and dressed in 1972 fashion, the blonde wig and heavy lipstick were a little off-putting.

You didn't see Casino Royale?


Nah, I should check out some of the recent Bond movies sometime, but the newest one I saw was Golden Eye.  Which was also the only Bond movie I ever saw in a theater.
 
2013-06-13 02:36:37 AM  

Alphax: Hmm.. large scale, medevial naval warfare.  That's a little different.


Correcting myself, I guess I should say large scale, bronze age naval warfare.
 
2013-06-13 02:39:11 AM  

Alphax: Alphax: Hmm.. large scale, medevial naval warfare.  That's a little different.

Correcting myself, I guess I should say large scale, bronze age naval warfare.


Iron Age.
 
2013-06-13 02:43:15 AM  
Another new trailer: The To Do List.  Aubrey Plaza plays a nerdy high school valedictorian, with zero experience with sex.  So she's studying up, and trying hard to get sexual experience before she starts college.

/giggity
 
2013-06-13 03:07:47 AM  
Crap. I thought the movie would be about a rare breed of Chrysler sports coupe that saw its best years from 1955-1961.
 
2013-06-13 03:14:38 AM  
Eva Green is creepy. Her mouth or her eyes, I just don't know. I'm not saying she has sharp knees, I'm saying I'm afraid of her. Very afraid.
 
2013-06-13 03:28:43 AM  
Synopsis: "Yaaaargh!!!!"
 
2013-06-13 03:37:19 AM  
Hm. Less homoeroticism and more spectacle.  Sad to see the leather man-bikinis replaced with kilts (battle skirts?).

I'll still go see it.
 
2013-06-13 03:58:57 AM  
Obligatory...
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2013-06-13 04:02:54 AM  

Dahnkster: Obligatory...
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Heh, that one's new to me.
 
2013-06-13 04:06:48 AM  
Will it be as gay as the first film? NTTAWWT
 
2013-06-13 04:08:40 AM  
Funny how they use pale British guys to portray the Greeks and tan Mexicans to portray the Persians.
 
2013-06-13 04:12:21 AM  
Is this Sparta? No?
i283.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-13 04:18:43 AM  
Did you hear about the Spartan who left home because he didn't like the way he was reared?

He went back because he couldn't leave his brothers behind....

Thanks. I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip your spears.
 
2013-06-13 04:52:42 AM  

VTGremlin: Mugato: Alphax: The only movie I've actually seen Eva Green in was the Dark Shadows movie.  And as she was the villian, and dressed in 1972 fashion, the blonde wig and heavy lipstick were a little off-putting.

You didn't see Casino Royale?

Or The Dreamers?


Also, the recent serialized Arthur rehash, Shotime was it?  I can't remember anything but her glorious (and bare) tracts of land.
/only watched the first couple episodes, trashy drama retelling was trashy
//she was hot though
 
2013-06-13 05:24:10 AM  

Hetfield: Looks like crap.


Straight to coaster
 
2013-06-13 07:06:13 AM  

VTGremlin: Mugato: Alphax: The only movie I've actually seen Eva Green in was the Dark Shadows movie.  And as she was the villian, and dressed in 1972 fashion, the blonde wig and heavy lipstick were a little off-putting.

You didn't see Casino Royale?

Or The Dreamers?


or Kingdom of Heaven
 
2013-06-13 07:21:51 AM  

NewportBarGuy: I don't really care if it gets people to read the Classics. The stories of ancient Greece and Rome should be told in this way so future generations can at least have a tenuous grasp on what they did to found modern civilization..


All irrelevant because they owned slaves or did something else bad.  Just ask progressives about the nation's founding fathers.
 
2013-06-13 07:22:26 AM  
Nice! Can't wait, loved 300 and this looks possibly even better.
 
2013-06-13 07:36:12 AM  

Spaced Lion: NewportBarGuy: We can't make them read Plato's Republic or Livy or Herodotus...

The hell we can't.


Seconded. The Republic is already probably mandatory first-year university Political Theory reading; I would imagine universities with a set core curriculum probably would get you to read it. Livy, Herodotus, and also Thucydides are all pretty standard as well.

I don't see why 11th and 12th graders can't start on this stuff. The historical texts in particular are definitely easier to read independently than, say, Shakespeare.

/love/hate relationship with 300
//call me, Lena.
 
2013-06-13 07:38:28 AM  
We need a Battle of Salamis movie.
 
2013-06-13 07:41:02 AM  

The Muthaship: We need a Battle of Salamis movie.


Actually, that just sounds like gay porn....
 
2013-06-13 07:42:33 AM  

The Muthaship: The Muthaship: We need a Battle of Salamis movie.

Actually, that just sounds like gay porn....


Actually, I thought it was the name of an old Genesis song..
 
2013-06-13 07:48:45 AM  
pushed back 8 months is never a good sign...
 
2013-06-13 07:53:44 AM  

Magorn: NewportBarGuy: I don't really care if it gets people to read the Classics. The stories of ancient Greece and Rome should be told in this way so future generations can at least have a tenuous grasp on what they did to found modern civilization.

We can't make them read Plato's Republic or Livy or Herodotus... But these movies at least give them a fantastical glimpse of what occurred thousands of years ago. Let us just hope they learn from it and not use it as a model.

No no no NO
This is as dumb as the history ride in the movie  idiocracy.  the Battle of marathon being used as a sequel the Battle of Thermopylae really?  would be As anachronistic and ridiculous as George Washington and General Cornwallis staging a re-match as Gettysburg.

giving more screen time to this nonsense just sucks the air put of Amy chance for a good movie that tells the real story..just as the 300 pretty much killed a movie adaptation of "Gates of Fire" that was in the works at the same,e time-wjich is a real tragedy


What about if George Washington could astral project and rip souls of bodies and General Cornwallis had nuclear lazers he fired from his eyes?  I'd watch that movie.
 
2013-06-13 08:06:54 AM  
You know what they never address in these sword & sandals movies?  The fatigue these guys must get in their arms from swinging those swords all day long!

I know it would be a pretty dull scene in a movie, but all these movies where guys are slicing through enemies like butter (300, Lord of the Rings, et. al.) they never touch on the fact that you may be the greatest swordsman in the world with, obviously, the sharpest sword ever, but damn, your arm would eventually give out!!

/wet blanket
 
2013-06-13 08:11:57 AM  

LDM90: Eva Green is creepy. Her mouth or her eyes, I just don't know. I'm not saying she has sharp knees, I'm saying I'm afraid of her. Very afraid.


You're right, she is hot.
 
2013-06-13 08:26:27 AM  
OPENING:

The troops, having just heard one-eyed guy's story of the final battle, digest what they've heard in silence, when...

UNNAMED CHARACTER:

Wait, didn't you say you left before the battle began? No, no, I distinctly remember you saying you left before the battle ensued. Even if you just hid back and watched, you have one eye, and you've probably got a lot of sand in that eye, what with you being in a desert. So, how would any of what you just spent, what, 90 minutes, telling us not be an entire load of bullshiat?! You're just sending us out there to die for some hard-on you have for killing people!

ONE-EYED GUY

But...but...they hate us for our freedom! Xerxes tried to kill my daddy!
 
2013-06-13 08:27:15 AM  
Nice to see Ru Paul working.
 
2013-06-13 08:28:32 AM  

buntz: You know what they never address in these sword & sandals movies?  The fatigue these guys must get in their arms from swinging those swords all day long!

I know it would be a pretty dull scene in a movie, but all these movies where guys are slicing through enemies like butter (300, Lord of the Rings, et. al.) they never touch on the fact that you may be the greatest swordsman in the world with, obviously, the sharpest sword ever, but damn, your arm would eventually give out!!

/wet blanket


Really? REALLY?????
 
2013-06-13 08:39:36 AM  

vudukungfu: Nice to see Ru Paul working.


Got a crush on the fella?
 
2013-06-13 08:50:34 AM  
Meh.  I'll wait for the Nick Cave-scripted Gladiator 2.  Not that it will happen, but I'd rather see it than "300:  Three Hundred-er."
 
2013-06-13 09:01:05 AM  
No David Wenham?  Sadface
 
2013-06-13 09:13:10 AM  

LDM90: Eva Green is creepy. Her mouth or her eyes, I just don't know. I'm not saying she has sharp knees, I'm saying I'm afraid of her. Very afraid.


When you are scared she might pull a knife on you at the last minute it makes that orgasm so much sweeter
 
2013-06-13 09:13:23 AM  

Magorn: This is as dumb as the history ride in the movie idiocracy. the Battle of marathon being used as a sequel the Battle of Thermopylae really? would be As anachronistic and ridiculous as George Washington and General Cornwallis staging a re-match as Gettysburg.


i read a review that didn't mention that.  Bummer.
 
2013-06-13 09:15:30 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: LDM90: Eva Green is creepy. Her mouth or her eyes, I just don't know. I'm not saying she has sharp knees, I'm saying I'm afraid of her. Very afraid.

When you are scared she might pull a knife on you at the last minute it makes that orgasm so much sweeter


Preaching to the choir.
 
2013-06-13 09:31:45 AM  
brunette fivehead alert
 
2013-06-13 09:34:45 AM  

buntz: You know what they never address in these sword & sandals movies?  The fatigue these guys must get in their arms from swinging those swords all day long!

I know it would be a pretty dull scene in a movie, but all these movies where guys are slicing through enemies like butter (300, Lord of the Rings, et. al.) they never touch on the fact that you may be the greatest swordsman in the world with, obviously, the sharpest sword ever, but damn, your arm would eventually give out!!

/wet blanket


I agree. Have you ever read "Gates of Fire"? It's a retelling of the battle of Thermopylae told through the eyes of a slave (only survivor pulled out of the bodies, Xerxes ordered his saving so he could learn as much as he could about the Spartans). It goes into detail about their training and the severe fatigue they suffered.

You feel like they missed a chance to humanize them a little bit.
 
2013-06-13 09:36:33 AM  

The Muthaship: We need a Battle of Salamis movie.


Why do i want to watch a bunch of people hitting each other with cured meats?
 
2013-06-13 09:39:23 AM  

NewportBarGuy: I don't really care if it gets people to read the Classics. The stories of ancient Greece and Rome should be told in this way so future generations can at least have a tenuous grasp on what they did to found modern civilization.

We can't make them read Plato's Republic or Livy or Herodotus... But these movies at least give them a fantastical glimpse of what occurred thousands of years ago. Let us just hope they learn from it and not use it as a model.


Those poor Thespians will now be forgotten.
 
2013-06-13 09:44:08 AM  
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2013-06-13 09:48:39 AM  
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A new 300 movie? HELL YA!!!
 
2013-06-13 09:53:52 AM  

Clutch2013: Mugato: Alphax: The only movie I've actually seen Eva Green in was the Dark Shadows movie.  And as she was the villian, and dressed in 1972 fashion, the blonde wig and heavy lipstick were a little off-putting.

You didn't see Casino Royale?

Or The Dreamers?


Or that really shiatty Camalot tv series?
 
2013-06-13 10:01:32 AM  

Magorn: NewportBarGuy: I don't really care if it gets people to read the Classics. The stories of ancient Greece and Rome should be told in this way so future generations can at least have a tenuous grasp on what they did to found modern civilization.

We can't make them read Plato's Republic or Livy or Herodotus... But these movies at least give them a fantastical glimpse of what occurred thousands of years ago. Let us just hope they learn from it and not use it as a model.

No no no NO
This is as dumb as the history ride in the movie  idiocracy.  the Battle of marathon being used as a sequel the Battle of Thermopylae really?  would be As anachronistic and ridiculous as George Washington and General Cornwallis staging a re-match as Gettysburg.

giving more screen time to this nonsense just sucks the air put of Amy chance for a good movie that tells the real story..just as the 300 pretty much killed a movie adaptation of "Gates of Fire" that was in the works at the same,e time-wjich is a real tragedy


I know how you feel man.  For instance, I heard about this movie called "Man of Steel", wherein the protagonist is a super-strong everyman who flies and shoots lasers out of his eye!  WTF is that?  It is just nonsense to try and stylize something like this for cinema when I know is not true and could never happen.  Why can't they make a realistic movie about an non-alien orphan and the struggles he faces, instead of this super powers crap, which just confuses kids and makes idiots think that a guy in spandex can save them from danger.
 
2013-06-13 10:07:13 AM  

BilltheThrill: Magorn: NewportBarGuy: I don't really care if it gets people to read the Classics. The stories of ancient Greece and Rome should be told in this way so future generations can at least have a tenuous grasp on what they did to found modern civilization.

We can't make them read Plato's Republic or Livy or Herodotus... But these movies at least give them a fantastical glimpse of what occurred thousands of years ago. Let us just hope they learn from it and not use it as a model.

No no no NO
This is as dumb as the history ride in the movie  idiocracy.  the Battle of marathon being used as a sequel the Battle of Thermopylae really?  would be As anachronistic and ridiculous as George Washington and General Cornwallis staging a re-match as Gettysburg.

giving more screen time to this nonsense just sucks the air put of Amy chance for a good movie that tells the real story..just as the 300 pretty much killed a movie adaptation of "Gates of Fire" that was in the works at the same,e time-wjich is a real tragedy

I know how you feel man.  For instance, I heard about this movie called "Man of Steel", wherein the protagonist is a super-strong everyman who flies and shoots lasers out of his eye!  WTF is that?  It is just nonsense to try and stylize something like this for cinema when I know is not true and could never happen.  Why can't they make a realistic movie about an non-alien orphan and the struggles he faces, instead of this super powers crap, which just confuses kids and makes idiots think that a guy in spandex can save them from danger.


Did you seriously just equate a movie that (at some level) is supposed to be about historical stuff that actually happened with a comic book adaptation?
 
2013-06-13 10:08:42 AM  
Clutch2013:

/not quite "Shut up and take my money" material yet, but I'm intrigued.

It's advertising a  March release date, so the studio apparently doesn't have a lot of faith in it.

March is the dumping ground.
 
2013-06-13 10:11:59 AM  

Tax Boy: It's advertising a March release date, so the studio apparently doesn't have a lot of faith in it.

March is the dumping ground.


There has been a push in the last 4 years to try and reverse that

...I don't see it happening but that's the trend is to try and avoid the forced summer block buster and christmas treadmill
 
2013-06-13 10:12:33 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: LDM90: Eva Green is creepy. Her mouth or her eyes, I just don't know. I'm not saying she has sharp knees, I'm saying I'm afraid of her. Very afraid.

When you are scared she might pull a knife on you at the last minute it makes that orgasm so much sweeter


Particularly when you contemplate from where she might pull that knife. At the last minute, I mean.
 
2013-06-13 10:15:44 AM  
The movie '300' was based off a Graphic Novel, not history books.
 
2013-06-13 10:25:16 AM  

The Banana Thug: Looks like they ripped off the "Battle of Blackwater" scene from Game of Thrones.

And is Eva Green supposed to be hot?



if you're a heterosexual male, then yes.
 
2013-06-13 10:28:28 AM  

Son of Thunder: BilltheThrill: Magorn: NewportBarGuy: I don't really care if it gets people to read the Classics. The stories of ancient Greece and Rome should be told in this way so future generations can at least have a tenuous grasp on what they did to found modern civilization.

We can't make them read Plato's Republic or Livy or Herodotus... But these movies at least give them a fantastical glimpse of what occurred thousands of years ago. Let us just hope they learn from it and not use it as a model.

No no no NO
This is as dumb as the history ride in the movie  idiocracy.  the Battle of marathon being used as a sequel the Battle of Thermopylae really?  would be As anachronistic and ridiculous as George Washington and General Cornwallis staging a re-match as Gettysburg.

giving more screen time to this nonsense just sucks the air put of Amy chance for a good movie that tells the real story..just as the 300 pretty much killed a movie adaptation of "Gates of Fire" that was in the works at the same,e time-wjich is a real tragedy

I know how you feel man.  For instance, I heard about this movie called "Man of Steel", wherein the protagonist is a super-strong everyman who flies and shoots lasers out of his eye!  WTF is that?  It is just nonsense to try and stylize something like this for cinema when I know is not true and could never happen.  Why can't they make a realistic movie about an non-alien orphan and the struggles he faces, instead of this super powers crap, which just confuses kids and makes idiots think that a guy in spandex can save them from danger.

Did you seriously just equate a movie that (at some level) is supposed to be about historical stuff that actually happened with a comic book adaptation?


You realize that both films are comic book adaptations (one comic was invented whole cloth while the other was at least inspired by historical events).
 
2013-06-13 10:39:17 AM  
Go home Cersei you are drunk!

/haha
 
2013-06-13 10:44:46 AM  
Son of Thunder:

Did you seriously just equate a movie that (at some level) is supposed to be about historical stuff that actually happened with a comic book adaptation?

The movie is "supposed to be about historical stuff"?  Are you farking high?
 
2013-06-13 10:48:10 AM  

NewportBarGuy: I don't really care if it gets people to read the Classics. The stories of ancient Greece and Rome should be told in this way so future generations can at least have a tenuous grasp on what they did to found modern civilization.

We can't make them read Plato's Republic or Livy or Herodotus... But these movies at least give them a fantastical glimpse of what occurred thousands of years ago. Let us just hope they learn from it and not use it as a model.


I'm going to make a movie about the ancient far east where Sun Tzu's opening of the first Zoo eventually causes the Zhou dynasty to collapse hundreds of years later. It's going to be a family friendly movie, a lighthearted comedy starring Jackie Chan. That will teach the kids about that period in antiquity.
 
2013-06-13 10:56:32 AM  

TheJoe03: Funny how they use pale British guys to portray the Greeks and tan Mexicans to portray the Persians.


Making it the first movie ever to use artifical means to distinguish the good guys from the bad guys.  Oh, and Greeks were paler then.
 
2013-06-13 11:04:27 AM  
Look for the Redbox/ SyFy version 600!
 
2013-06-13 11:14:24 AM  

BilltheThrill: Son of Thunder:

Did you seriously just equate a movie that (at some level) is supposed to be about historical stuff that actually happened with a comic book adaptation?

The movie is "supposed to be about historical stuff"?  Are you farking high?


In the sense that the Battle of Thermopylae happened, yes. What Son of Thunder is saying is a lot of people's only exposure to that battle is the movie "300", so they walk out with this idea that they're all super-soldiers with adamantium swords and basically gods among men, when it really isn't the truth at all.

It would be like finding out someone's only exposure to World War II was after watching Inglorious Basterds. Fun movie, but completely distorts the facts in every way.
 
2013-06-13 11:23:52 AM  

Modified Cornstarch: brunette fivehead alert


Are guys unaware of how much they sound like biatchy queens when they write stuff like this?
 
2013-06-13 11:24:14 AM  
Noam Murro: "Hey Zack, we need another line of dialog for this character here."
Zack Snyder: "Hmmm... how about 'YAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!'?"
Noam Murro: "Hey - that fits!"
 
2013-06-13 11:29:23 AM  

Son of Thunder: Did you seriously just equate a movie that (at some level) is supposed to be about historical stuff that actually happened with a comic book adaptation?


300 was also a comic book adaptation.  And that comic was also intended to be told as if was an oral history full of embellishments and mystical elements.  And this movie is about the Battles of Artemisium and Salamis which did happen right after Thermopylae so stop freaking out and thinking we're all in Idiocracy.  That's idiocy.
 
2013-06-13 11:40:27 AM  

browntimmy: Modified Cornstarch: brunette fivehead alert

Are guys unaware of how much they sound like biatchy queens when they write stuff like this?


i was going for the tinny-voiced wannabe, but that'll suffice.
 
2013-06-13 11:52:29 AM  
Liked 300, fun movie, cool fights, over-stylish photography, cool soundtrack.

It's not I, Claudius, but it wasn't the intent either. It was intended as a dumb action movie based on a dumb action comic. And in THAT intent, I think it succeed...

I may catch this one on theaters.

Hey, if we are lucky, the climatic battle will be between Eva Green and Lena Headey on mud...
 
2013-06-13 12:12:30 PM  

buntz: You know what they never address in these sword & sandals movies?  The fatigue these guys must get in their arms from swinging those swords all day long!

I know it would be a pretty dull scene in a movie, but all these movies where guys are slicing through enemies like butter (300, Lord of the Rings, et. al.) they never touch on the fact that you may be the greatest swordsman in the world with, obviously, the sharpest sword ever, but damn, your arm would eventually give out!!

/wet blanket



That's not how it works in real life fighting in that manner outside a movie. At least not in the Phalanx or Roman style.
 
2013-06-13 12:23:08 PM  

Alphax: The work PC doesn't do video well, or sound for that matter.  (checks the IMDB app on my iPhone)  Ah!  There it is.  Be right back, getting my earbuds out..


Why did you bother typing that?
 
2013-06-13 01:13:34 PM  

scottydoesntknow: buntz: You know what they never address in these sword & sandals movies?  The fatigue these guys must get in their arms from swinging those swords all day long!

I know it would be a pretty dull scene in a movie, but all these movies where guys are slicing through enemies like butter (300, Lord of the Rings, et. al.) they never touch on the fact that you may be the greatest swordsman in the world with, obviously, the sharpest sword ever, but damn, your arm would eventually give out!!

/wet blanket

I agree. Have you ever read "Gates of Fire"? It's a retelling of the battle of Thermopylae told through the eyes of a slave (only survivor pulled out of the bodies, Xerxes ordered his saving so he could learn as much as he could about the Spartans). It goes into detail about their training and the severe fatigue they suffered.

You feel like they missed a chance to humanize them a little bit.


That would be completely missing the point. Humanizing them is the complete opposite of what they were going for.
 
2013-06-13 01:14:45 PM  

Tax Boy: March is the dumping ground.


The Matrix was released in March.
 
2013-06-13 01:16:59 PM  

El Morro: Alphax: The work PC doesn't do video well, or sound for that matter.  (checks the IMDB app on my iPhone)  Ah!  There it is.  Be right back, getting my earbuds out..

Why did you bother typing that?


Well, I found an alternate source of the video.
 
2013-06-13 01:45:25 PM  

Modified Cornstarch: brunette fivehead alert


Brunettes with fiverhaeds are farking disgusting.

i535.photobucket.com

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2013-06-13 01:47:40 PM  

Tax Boy: Clutch2013:

/not quite "Shut up and take my money" material yet, but I'm intrigued.

It's advertising a  March release date, so the studio apparently doesn't have a lot of faith in it.

March is the dumping ground.


Honestly, I've seen some movies in the traditional dumping grounds that haven't been that bad.  Of course, they wouldn't have fared as well if they got summer release dates and had their asses handed to them by the usual blockbusters.  This year alone, Dead Man Down and G.I. Joe: Retaliation were two nice surprises to come out of March.  Then there was Evil Dead in April.
 
2013-06-13 01:47:48 PM  

Mugato: Modified Cornstarch: brunette fivehead alert

Brunettes with fiverhaeds are farking disgusting.

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Alexis Bledel and Lauren Graham where the only reason why I watched Gilmore Girls...

/Not really...
 
2013-06-13 02:41:44 PM  
This movie is a blast from start to end. Eva Green is hot as can be, and the sound is incredible. Well, I am a bit biased as myself and the crew I work with are doing the sound job.
 
2013-06-13 03:36:04 PM  

FLMountainMan: Making it the first movie ever to use artifical means to distinguish the good guys from the bad guys.  Oh, and Greeks were paler then.


I know, Hollywood had been racist for a long time. Brown to them is bad and white is good. I also know Greeks are lighter than Persians, but they never looked like pale northern Europeans.
 
2013-06-13 03:53:08 PM  
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2013-06-13 04:16:43 PM  

TheJoe03: I know, Hollywood had been racist for a long time. Brown to them is bad and white is good. I also know Greeks are lighter than Persians, but they never looked like pale northern Europeans.


Depends which Greeks you're talking about. The Achaeans (Myceneae) and Persians were essentially the same race -- both came from the same Indo-European stock. The Achaeans first came to Greece from the east, via Crete (cf. Minoans), about a thousand years before everybody else did.

The Ionians (Athens) and Aeolians (Thebes) came after, probably over the Hellspont (Byzantium), a bit removed but still largely Indo-European and indistinguishable from Persian/Median. The Dorians (Sparta, Corinth) came last. They came from the direct north, probably Danubian culture, settled in Epirus for awhile, then moved south again, conquered the Peloponnese and wiped out/assimilated/enslaved the Achaeans. They were very likely fairer skinned and haired than the Indo-European stock everybody else came from, but they were hardly nordic looking. I'm guessing they looked like modern Romanians/slavic.

The movie 300 is not really that far off in depicting this. Except for a couple goofy exceptions (Michael Fassbender, David Wenham).

The Persians, on the other hand, were so ridiculously miscast as a race that it has to be parody
 
2013-06-13 04:25:13 PM  

TheJoe03: FLMountainMan: Making it the first movie ever to use artifical means to distinguish the good guys from the bad guys.  Oh, and Greeks were paler then.

I know, Hollywood had been racist for a long time. Brown to them is bad and white is good. I also know Greeks are lighter than Persians, but they never looked like pale northern Europeans.


They didn't speak english either!!

How shiatty of them to not make it accurate!

It's necessary to take some liberties like that when appealing to an english speaking populace as a whole.

It's not even that Hollywood is racist, it that it believes a large chunk of the viewership would rather watch/believe/understand/empathize with the the european archetype.  They are not wrong.

You're like a person complaining there aren't enough whites on BET programming.

No, they're appealing to specific parts of real world culture and how they identify with characters on the screen.  It's not even racism of the populace at large, but typical human psychology.

Also, it's about uniformity of the cast within that given group, and what you have to work with as far as actors.  If you use an established actor for star power(pure marketing here), such as Butler, the rest of his people need to more or less resemble him or it breaks the illusion.  Accents, skin tone, etc.

It's not like you could put Jaime Foxx, Snoop Dog, Richard Prior, Tyler Perry, etc in these roles, same as you couldn't use Eminem, Jaime Kennedy, Mark Whalberg, Ben Afflec, Kevin Costner etc.

Using people with the european english(UK/Scot/Irish - to include australian) is simply standard, because most other accents are just too jarring to the viewer, and to most viewers, that accent inspires feelings of how people sounded back then even if they didn't).  Look how much flack Kevin Costner caught with his relatively light accent in Robin Hood.

But you can't use actual grecian or persian actors, there aren't enough that speak comprehensible(to the public at large) english to flesh out racial bodies of the times back then(that also fit the roles well). And even if you could, you lose the draw of star power that is a real thing with a purpose.  A lot of people don't like to watch "no-name" actors, at the very least, it's a risky thing.  Using stars that are known and have some following allows the viewer to not feel like it's a gamble.

It's not about racism at all.  It's about delivering the content that appeals to as many people as possible.

Give your race card a break man. Society has got enough problems without you attempting to create more.
 
2013-06-13 06:15:18 PM  

scottydoesntknow: BilltheThrill: Son of Thunder:

Did you seriously just equate a movie that (at some level) is supposed to be about historical stuff that actually happened with a comic book adaptation?

The movie is "supposed to be about historical stuff"?  Are you farking high?

In the sense that the Battle of Thermopylae happened, yes. What Son of Thunder is saying is a lot of people's only exposure to that battle is the movie "300", so they walk out with this idea that they're all super-soldiers with adamantium swords and basically gods among men, when it really isn't the truth at all.

It would be like finding out someone's only exposure to World War II was after watching Inglorious Basterds. Fun movie, but completely distorts the facts in every way.


I know exactly what he was trying to say, which makes it even more farking stupid.

Of course, it's not like the Greeks ever embellished historical stories about war to make it more entertaining to audiences.  What Snyder did was an insult to their culture.

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2013-06-13 06:50:51 PM  

BilltheThrill: What Snyder did was an insult to their culture.


I don't think what Snyder/Miller did was very insulting at all. Ancient Sparta by far was one of the more extreme cultural experiments ever undertaken by man. The city never numbered more than a few thousand people, and it was incredibly insular with its racial purity and bloodlines. Deformed infants were often inspected and tossed off a cliff if found to be defective in some way. With infant mortality already high enough as it was, it kept the population in check, but damned if you couldn't call that an anachronistic eugenics program. Sparta was obsessed with genetic purity and was literally trying to produce the perfect race, something mimical of the Greek gods they worshipped.

Other stuff that wasn't in the movie/comic:
- Children taken from their mothers at an early age and sent to an Academy/school/barracks/camp where they learn and train in the ways of Spartan martial society. At age 12, they must submit sexually to their superior officers as a right of passage.
- Women encouraged to dress up like boys on their wedding night so that the husband finds sex with her to be a familiar experience.
- Enslavement of all other populations on the Peloponnesus. More slaves than actual citizens in the city.

The Athenians were so repulsed and disgusted by Spartan society that during the Peloponnesian wars they sent a letter that threatened: "If we win we will annihilate every one of you, burn your town to the ground, salt your crops, destroy your works and strike your name from all records and inscriptions so that no one will know you have ever existed."

The Spartan reply, in that usual Laconic manner of theirs: "If."
 
2013-06-13 08:11:04 PM  

Magorn: giving more screen time to this nonsense just sucks the air put of Amy chance for a good movie that tells the real story..just as the 300 pretty much killed a movie adaptation of "Gates of Fire" that was in the works at the same,e time-wjich is a real tragedy


Look, I would totally watch a Merchant-Ivory type movie about this subject. An epic that is intellectually sound AND with good effects and AMAZING actors. But, no one is going to bankroll that.
 
2013-06-13 08:55:55 PM  

Ishkur: BilltheThrill: What Snyder did was an insult to their culture.

I don't think what Snyder/Miller did was very insulting at all. Ancient Sparta by far was one of the more extreme cultural experiments ever undertaken by man. The city never numbered more than a few thousand people, and it was incredibly insular with its racial purity and bloodlines. Deformed infants were often inspected and tossed off a cliff if found to be defective in some way. With infant mortality already high enough as it was, it kept the population in check, but damned if you couldn't call that an anachronistic eugenics program. Sparta was obsessed with genetic purity and was literally trying to produce the perfect race, something mimical of the Greek gods they worshipped.

Other stuff that wasn't in the movie/comic:
- Children taken from their mothers at an early age and sent to an Academy/school/barracks/camp where they learn and train in the ways of Spartan martial society. At age 12, they must submit sexually to their superior officers as a right of passage.
- Women encouraged to dress up like boys on their wedding night so that the husband finds sex with her to be a familiar experience.
- Enslavement of all other populations on the Peloponnesus. More slaves than actual citizens in the city.

The Athenians were so repulsed and disgusted by Spartan society that during the Peloponnesian wars they sent a letter that threatened: "If we win we will annihilate every one of you, burn your town to the ground, salt your crops, destroy your works and strike your name from all records and inscriptions so that no one will know you have ever existed."

The Spartan reply, in that usual Laconic manner of theirs: "If."


Good lord.  I remember a time when Fark mocked retards like this.  Now Fark IS retards like this.
 
2013-06-13 09:30:56 PM  

dehehn: Son of Thunder: Did you seriously just equate a movie that (at some level) is supposed to be about historical stuff that actually happened with a comic book adaptation?

300 was also a comic book adaptation.  And that comic was also intended to be told as if was an oral history full of embellishments and mystical elements.  And this movie is about the Battles of Artemisium and Salamis which did happen right after Thermopylae so stop freaking out and thinking we're all in Idiocracy.  That's idiocy.


came to say this

/the end of 300 which showed that it was told as a story to rile up some troops pretty much spells this out, which is why in the movie many characters were so larger than life, literally and figuratively. It was exaggerated on purpose.
 
2013-06-13 09:32:00 PM  

Lego_Addict: I'm going to make a movie about the ancient far east where Sun Tzu's opening of the first Zoo eventually causes the Zhou dynasty to collapse hundreds of years later. It's going to be a family friendly movie, a lighthearted comedy starring Jackie Chan. That will teach the kids about that period in antiquity.


I lovethe cut of your jib, Sir!
 
2013-06-14 12:25:28 AM  

BilltheThrill: Of course, it's not like the Greeks ever embellished historical stories about war to make it more entertaining to audiences. What Snyder did was an insult to their culture.


Hell, Herodotus embellished the Thermopylae story.  There weren't a million Persians there, he just made that number up to make it look like even more of an underdog story than it already was.
 
2013-06-14 01:55:04 AM  

omeganuepsilon: TheJoe03: FLMountainMan: Making it the first movie ever to use artifical means to distinguish the good guys from the bad guys.  Oh, and Greeks were paler then.

I know, Hollywood had been racist for a long time. Brown to them is bad and white is good. I also know Greeks are lighter than Persians, but they never looked like pale northern Europeans.

They didn't speak english either!!

How shiatty of them to not make it accurate!

It's necessary to take some liberties like that when appealing to an english speaking populace as a whole.

It's not even that Hollywood is racist, it that it believes a large chunk of the viewership would rather watch/believe/understand/empathize with the the european archetype.  They are not wrong.

You're like a person complaining there aren't enough whites on BET programming.

No, they're appealing to specific parts of real world culture and how they identify with characters on the screen.  It's not even racism of the populace at large, but typical human psychology.

Also, it's about uniformity of the cast within that given group, and what you have to work with as far as actors.  If you use an established actor for star power(pure marketing here), such as Butler, the rest of his people need to more or less resemble him or it breaks the illusion.  Accents, skin tone, etc.

It's not like you could put Jaime Foxx, Snoop Dog, Richard Prior, Tyler Perry, etc in these roles, same as you couldn't use Eminem, Jaime Kennedy, Mark Whalberg, Ben Afflec, Kevin Costner etc.

Using people with the european english(UK/Scot/Irish - to include australian) is simply standard, because most other accents are just too jarring to the viewer, and to most viewers, that accent inspires feelings of how people sounded back then even if they didn't).  Look how much flack Kevin Costner caught with his relatively light accent in Robin Hood.

But you can't use actual grecian or persian actors, there aren't enough that speak comprehensible(to the public at large) english to flesh out racial bodies of the times back then(that also fit the roles well). And even if you could, you lose the draw of star power that is a real thing with a purpose.  A lot of people don't like to watch "no-name" actors, at the very least, it's a risky thing.  Using stars that are known and have some following allows the viewer to not feel like it's a gamble.

It's not about racism at all.  It's about delivering the content that appeals to as many people as possible.

Give your race card a break man. Society has got enough problems without you attempting to create more.


Just making an observation, calm down. You typed a whole lot
 
2013-06-14 02:40:28 AM  

TheJoe03: Just making an observation, calm down. You typed a whole lot


You think that was a whole lot?

You think a "whole lot" of words represents anger or something?  Does someone have to be on edge to type more than a few monosyllabic words?

And here, I thought you might be smart because you were talking about history, not one to be daunted by a "whole lot" of words.

Some things just take a "whole lot" of words to explain, some of them are even big words.  Sorry if I overshot my audience.
 
2013-06-14 02:43:57 AM  

omeganuepsilon: TheJoe03: Just making an observation, calm down. You typed a whole lot

You think that was a whole lot?

You think a "whole lot" of words represents anger or something?  Does someone have to be on edge to type more than a few monosyllabic words?

And here, I thought you might be smart because you were talking about history, not one to be daunted by a "whole lot" of words.

Some things just take a "whole lot" of words to explain, some of them are even big words.  Sorry if I overshot my audience.


I just don't care enough to respond to your wall of text. You did little to dispel the notion of Hollywood racism and made a big deal about a little observation. Be more succinct next time.
 
xcv
2013-06-14 04:21:36 AM  

piney: dehehn: Son of Thunder: Did you seriously just equate a movie that (at some level) is supposed to be about historical stuff that actually happened with a comic book adaptation?

300 was also a comic book adaptation.  And that comic was also intended to be told as if was an oral history full of embellishments and mystical elements.  And this movie is about the Battles of Artemisium and Salamis which did happen right after Thermopylae so stop freaking out and thinking we're all in Idiocracy.  That's idiocy.

came to say this

/the end of 300 which showed that it was told as a story to rile up some troops pretty much spells this out, which is why in the movie many characters were so larger than life, literally and figuratively. It was exaggerated on purpose.


Exactly, the Spartans weren't going to boast how they simply slaughtered thousands of conscripted slaves and peasants, they were telling tales of how they took on the horrifying monsters that their mythological heroes fought.
 
2013-06-14 04:56:26 AM  

Ishkur: BilltheThrill: What Snyder did was an insult to their culture.

I don't think what Snyder/Miller did was very insulting at all. Ancient Sparta by far was one of the more extreme cultural experiments ever undertaken by man. The city never numbered more than a few thousand people, and it was incredibly insular with its racial purity and bloodlines. Deformed infants were often inspected and tossed off a cliff if found to be defective in some way. With infant mortality already high enough as it was, it kept the population in check, but damned if you couldn't call that an anachronistic eugenics program. Sparta was obsessed with genetic purity and was literally trying to produce the perfect race, something mimical of the Greek gods they worshipped.

Other stuff that wasn't in the movie/comic:
- Children taken from their mothers at an early age and sent to an Academy/school/barracks/camp where they learn and train in the ways of Spartan martial society. At age 12, they must submit sexually to their superior officers as a right of passage.
- Women encouraged to dress up like boys on their wedding night so that the husband finds sex with her to be a familiar experience.
- Enslavement of all other populations on the Peloponnesus. More slaves than actual citizens in the city.

The Athenians were so repulsed and disgusted by Spartan society that during the Peloponnesian wars they sent a letter that threatened: "If we win we will annihilate every one of you, burn your town to the ground, salt your crops, destroy your works and strike your name from all records and inscriptions so that no one will know you have ever existed."

The Spartan reply, in that usual Laconic manner of theirs: "If."


citiationneeded.jpg
 
2013-06-14 07:29:16 AM  

browntimmy: Modified Cornstarch: brunette fivehead alert

Are guys unaware of how much they sound like biatchy queens when they write stuff like this?


HA!
 
2013-06-14 10:56:39 AM  

NewportBarGuy: I don't really care if it gets people to read the Classics. The stories of ancient Greece and Rome should be told in this way so future generations can at least have a tenuous grasp on what they did to found modern civilization.

We can't make them read Plato's Republic or Livy or Herodotus... But these movies at least give them a fantastical glimpse of what occurred thousands of years ago. Let us just hope they learn from it and not use it as a model.


I actually learned more about the Roman Empire in Fallout: New Vegas than anyone ever taught me in school. I used Google and Wikipedia to confirm things like decimatio and frumentarii, and it inspired me to look into The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.

Anyway, 300 was still a boring film. Lots of goofy spectacle with little content.
 
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