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(IGN)   OUYA developers don't want booth at E3, buy space outside for their booth. ESA responds by buying space in front of booth and parking trailers in front. OUYA responds by buying space in front of trailers. ESA responds by calling the cops   (ign.com) divider line 93
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2013-06-12 02:55:46 PM  
In terms of both capability and determination, the OUYA reminds me of Lil Brudder.
 
2013-06-12 03:07:02 PM  
When did LA cops start riding Segways?
 
2013-06-12 03:07:35 PM  
The cops contained potassium benzoate.
 
2013-06-12 03:14:05 PM  
This is silly. E3 is run by the ESA. Setting up your booth across the way, obviously trying to get the benefit of E3 publicity without providing any of the input and yes money required to attend  just makes you a leech, and you shouldn't be surprised if ESA tries to shut you down. If you want to be indie and promote your console without buying into the establishment that is E3, DON'T GO!
 
2013-06-12 03:14:24 PM  
What the Ouya team did was name their product a retarded ass name.

Oh, and they also engaged in Guerilla marketing. Common enough. Be at E3 without "being" there.
Is ESA the E3 organizers? If so, I can understand their frustration. Ouya gets publicity without having to pay for it.

Makes Ouya seem sneaky and underhanded and wanting to get out there without having to pay for it.
 
2013-06-12 03:17:12 PM  
I guarantee you I would not have heard about Ouya being at E3 if the ESA didn't make a big enough stink and call the cops so it got on the news.

That's not to say I care any more about the Ouya, since the only takeaway from this article is that the cops there are too lazy to get off of their segway tricycles to actually walk up to the booth.
 
2013-06-12 03:17:53 PM  
Ouya gonna Ouya.
 
2013-06-12 03:18:49 PM  
Nice move, i say wander around and give away shirts and stand in line the whole time.
 
2013-06-12 03:20:39 PM  
Ahh the Streisand effect. Is it still called that if it happens IRL?
 
2013-06-12 03:22:13 PM  
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2013-06-12 03:23:55 PM  
If they were going for free publicity, it appears they got it.
 
2013-06-12 03:26:54 PM  

Wolf_Blitzer: Setting up your booth across the way, obviously trying to get the benefit of E3 publicity without providing any of the input and yes money required to attend  just makes you a leech.


No you're a capitalist. Should E3 shut down the hotdog stand outside because he's getting all this free publicity and interest in his product?
 
2013-06-12 03:26:55 PM  
Urhman feels that Ouya is being unfairly targeted due to its decision to go around the ESA and attend E3 on its own terms.

I'd say that is fair targeting, since they're trying to poach the effort and labor that goes in to getting people to attend E3.

Calling the cops wasn't entirely necessary though.
 
2013-06-12 03:31:20 PM  
Isn't this what Kentia Hall is for?
 
2013-06-12 03:31:35 PM  
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CONSULATE GUY: ...why won't they let him in?
HANK: You can't be an El Presidente Member unless you buy a time share
CONSULATE GUY: So you want me to get your father into El Presidente for free?
HANK: Yeah, that would be great.
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(Hank leans forward, intrigued.)
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2013-06-12 03:31:47 PM  
Many degrees of stupid going on in this whole exchange.

First, Ouya is acting low-class and slimy by trying to hawk its merchandise on the front steps of a party it didn't help create and pay for.  Conference fees are there to make the conference happen, and these guys are just trying to bring a mug from home and get in line for the kegger (as a potential consumer that would throw up some red flags for me)

Second, the LA Convention Center totally screwed its paying client (ESA) by granting an outside permit to an entity that competes with the convention's purpose.  As a site host they should have known better; as a conference organizer ESA should be livid at the Convention Center for granting this permit.

Third, once 1&2 have already happened, ESA should know how to act - just ignore it or scream like hell at the Convention Center to either get the permit revoked or get some feebies or get some $ knocked off the bill.  Trying to engage in one-upsmanship with a douchebag never ends well for either party, and now they just Streisand'd themselves.  How many people JUST found out that the OUYA exists because of this and other stories like it?
 
2013-06-12 03:32:22 PM  

mcreadyblue: When did LA cops start riding Segways?


Ever since it became faster to ride a Segway through downtown LA than drive.

/I kid, I kid.
//Probably since you have to be able to move more quickly than walking speed through a crowded convention, and being on your feet (and effectively walking a marathon every day) for however long E3 is open is tiring, and having tired cops is BAD.
 
2013-06-12 03:34:50 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Wolf_Blitzer: Setting up your booth across the way, obviously trying to get the benefit of E3 publicity without providing any of the input and yes money required to attend  just makes you a leech.

No you're a capitalist. Should E3 shut down the hotdog stand outside because he's getting all this free publicity and interest in his product?


That depends. Is E3 showcasing all the great advancements made in hotdog technology?

Hint: You can be a capitalist and a leech. Quite a few people/companies are
 
2013-06-12 03:36:53 PM  

cefm: Many degrees of stupid going on in this whole exchange.

Second, the LA Convention Center totally screwed its paying client (ESA) by granting an outside permit to an entity that competes with the convention's purpose.  As a site host they should have known better; as a conference organizer ESA should be livid at the Convention Center for granting this permit.


I'm thinking the space that the OUYA team rented out is not owned by the Convention Center (they said the lot is across the street), otherwise it probably wouldn't have happened.
 
2013-06-12 03:41:02 PM  
Was over at the Ouya lot yesterday as from 4 to 7 last night they started giving away free beer to anyone who walked through the gates and I wanted to see the hobo rampage of pulling that shiat in the middle of downtown LA. Unfortunately, it didn't come of anything but I also noticed that the OUYA people were pretty much ignoring anyone with a camera. So.... they created a press event but then completely ignored the press. What they did do was give tons of free crap to anyone wearing a developers badge that walked in the door. They weren't there for the press, they are there to lure indie developers to their platform.
 
2013-06-12 03:41:05 PM  

Wolf_Blitzer: Setting up your booth across the way, obviously trying to get the benefit of E3 publicity without providing any of the input and yes money required to attend just makes you


Smart enough to get some publicity without having to pay anything significant?

There were spots available across the street. If the ESA didn't want people "leeching" from them they should have bought the space themselves. I'm sure there are lots of businesses that benefit indirectly from their proximity to E3 without paying anything to the ESA, why shouldn't OUYA take advantage as well?

Not really sure what you're driving at there.
 
2013-06-12 03:41:40 PM  

GreenAdder: In terms of both capability and determination, the OUYA reminds me of Lil Brudder.


Don't be silly, it's going to be as popular and change the world like those OpenMoko phones.
 
2013-06-12 03:43:45 PM  
cefm:How many people JUST found out that the OUYA exists because of this and other stories like it?

/raises hand
//had to google it
///also didn't know ESA
 
2013-06-12 03:44:14 PM  
The ESA is just a bunch of people MSoNtendo pay to set up their trade show. Just farking pay them.
 
2013-06-12 03:53:00 PM  
To pretend that leeching is anything but capitalism at its truest form is being intellectually dishonest.

And, to act that calling the government down in an attempt to quash competition is capitalism is equally dishonest.
 
2013-06-12 03:55:04 PM  
Just thinking out loud, maybe Outs called the police to create a story?
 
2013-06-12 03:55:52 PM  

cefm: Many degrees of stupid going on in this whole exchange.

First, Ouya is acting low-class and slimy by trying to hawk its merchandise on the front steps of a party it didn't help create and pay for.  Conference fees are there to make the conference happen, and these guys are just trying to bring a mug from home and get in line for the kegger (as a potential consumer that would throw up some red flags for me)

Second, the LA Convention Center totally screwed its paying client (ESA) by granting an outside permit to an entity that competes with the convention's purpose.  As a site host they should have known better; as a conference organizer ESA should be livid at the Convention Center for granting this permit.

Third, once 1&2 have already happened, ESA should know how to act - just ignore it or scream like hell at the Convention Center to either get the permit revoked or get some feebies or get some $ knocked off the bill.  Trying to engage in one-upsmanship with a douchebag never ends well for either party, and now they just Streisand'd themselves.  How many people JUST found out that the OUYA exists because of this and other stories like it?



Sounds like Collusion and anti-trust activity for LA convention center to be denying permits in order to protect the interest of other companies.
 
2013-06-12 04:01:13 PM  

Warlordtrooper: Sounds like Collusion and anti-trust activity for LA convention center to be denying permits in order to protect the interest of other companies.


It sounds like good policy if they want the convention organizers to ever call them again.
 
2013-06-12 04:03:25 PM  

Warlordtrooper: cefm: Many degrees of stupid going on in this whole exchange.

First, Ouya is acting low-class and slimy by trying to hawk its merchandise on the front steps of a party it didn't help create and pay for.  Conference fees are there to make the conference happen, and these guys are just trying to bring a mug from home and get in line for the kegger (as a potential consumer that would throw up some red flags for me)

Second, the LA Convention Center totally screwed its paying client (ESA) by granting an outside permit to an entity that competes with the convention's purpose.  As a site host they should have known better; as a conference organizer ESA should be livid at the Convention Center for granting this permit.

Third, once 1&2 have already happened, ESA should know how to act - just ignore it or scream like hell at the Convention Center to either get the permit revoked or get some feebies or get some $ knocked off the bill.  Trying to engage in one-upsmanship with a douchebag never ends well for either party, and now they just Streisand'd themselves.  How many people JUST found out that the OUYA exists because of this and other stories like it?


Sounds like Collusion and anti-trust activity for LA convention center to be denying permits in order to protect the interest of other companies.


You have no idea what those things mean.
 
2013-06-12 04:07:12 PM  
Legal is legal.  Ouya outplayed the ESA this time.  I see scalpers with the double-sided signs outside arenas constantly. (Need Tickets / Selling Tickets)  Supposedly, that IS illegal and they aren't run off.  I say good for Ouya.  Well played.  Don't expect the ESA to allow it to happen next time, though.
 
2013-06-12 04:12:31 PM  

Wolf_Blitzer: This is silly. E3 is run by the ESA. Setting up your booth across the way, obviously trying to get the benefit of E3 publicity without providing any of the input and yes money required to attend  just makes you a leech, and you shouldn't be surprised if ESA tries to shut you down. If you want to be indie and promote your console without buying into the establishment that is E3, DON'T GO!


You deal with this at pretty much all big conventions, little startups that can't afford the money it costs to get in frequently buy/lease space across the street. If E3 wanted to have rights across the street, they should have bought them before other people did. As is though I see no reason to use police to solve the "problem" of small businesses that can't afford unreasonably high entry fees to big events. All else being equal ESA could have seen this as an opportunity to get good PR and show that they support some small businesses by selecting a few of the high-buzz businesses and finding them some corner space or downstairs space or something.
 
2013-06-12 04:13:45 PM  

Wolf_Blitzer: This is silly. E3 is run by the ESA. Setting up your booth across the way, obviously trying to get the benefit of E3 publicity without providing any of the input and yes money required to attend  just makes you a leech, and you shouldn't be surprised if ESA tries to shut you down. If you want to be indie and promote your console without buying into the establishment that is E3, DON'T GO!


They're not on their property, and they lose the benefit of having the foot traffic prime spots.  It's not leeching, it's a business calculation.
 
2013-06-12 04:19:56 PM  

Mytch: cefm:How many people JUST found out that the OUYA exists because of this and other stories like it?

/raises hand
//had to google it
///also didn't know ESA


Ditto.
 
2013-06-12 04:20:03 PM  
Looks like they were here:

34.040644, -118.267063 (Can't figure out how to give a great link).


It's across the street from the convention center, in what looks to be a privately owned parking lot.  (Behind the Icon Ultra Lounge).

So yeah, they were leeching.  Just like the privately owned parking lot leeches.  And the Icon Lounge, by virtue of it's proximity to the LACC.

People who don't want to pay exorbitant fees inside the convention center paying a parking lot for some space.  No, they don't get a booth number.  They don't appear in the program.  They don't have air conditioning.  They don't have the convenience of being right next to every other exhibit.

These guys were trying to make do on a budget.  ESA didn't like that they got benefits from proximity without paying cash.  ESA tried to shut them out.  Ouya boys stepped up the game, and ESA tried to strongarm them.  In the end, ESA looks like the douche.  Ouya looks the underdog.
 
2013-06-12 04:26:42 PM  

skozlaw: Wolf_Blitzer: Setting up your booth across the way, obviously trying to get the benefit of E3 publicity without providing any of the input and yes money required to attend just makes you

Smart enough to get some publicity without having to pay anything significant?

There were spots available across the street. If the ESA didn't want people "leeching" from them they should have bought the space themselves. I'm sure there are lots of businesses that benefit indirectly from their proximity to E3 without paying anything to the ESA, why shouldn't OUYA take advantage as well?

Not really sure what you're driving at there.


If they are willing to be a free rider to E3, what do you think they would be willing to do to independent developers and customers?

When your free publicity shouts "I'm not trustworthy" you failed.
 
2013-06-12 04:29:06 PM  

Wolf_Blitzer: This is silly. E3 is run by the ESA. Setting up your booth across the way, obviously trying to get the benefit of E3 publicity without providing any of the input and yes money required to attend  just makes you a leech, and you shouldn't be surprised if ESA tries to shut you down. If you want to be indie and promote your console without buying into the establishment that is E3, DON'T GO!


they didn't go. esa doesn't own the farking world surroundvtheir circlejerk.
 
2013-06-12 04:31:40 PM  
Fark yeah! I'm so sick of these little crappy outfits trying to do an end-around the ESA and E3 by doing a low-budget promotion on space they rented!!

::rolls eyes::

Seriously, Farkers, why all the corporate love for ESA all of a sudden?
 
2013-06-12 04:34:32 PM  

Komplex: If they are willing to be a free rider to E3, what do you think they would be willing to do to independent developers and customers?

When your free publicity shouts "I'm not trustworthy" you failed.


Maybe you think that, but someone else might think, "they're not wasting money needlessly on advertising, and I may have the savings passed on to me"
 
2013-06-12 04:34:34 PM  
I wonder what the overlap is among people calling OUYA leeches and people who pirate a bunch of sh*t for their personal use in this thread.
 
2013-06-12 04:37:46 PM  

LesserEvil: Fark yeah! I'm so sick of these little crappy outfits trying to do an end-around the ESA and E3 by doing a low-budget promotion on space they rented!!

::rolls eyes::

Seriously, Farkers, why all the corporate love for ESA all of a sudden?


this is fark. people love picking a side to bandwagon on. it makes farkers feel better to belittle others.
 
2013-06-12 04:41:15 PM  
They should've just held a kickstarter to get a booth at E3.
 
2013-06-12 04:43:11 PM  

cefm: Second, the LA Convention Center totally screwed its paying client (ESA) by granting an outside permit to an entity that competes with the convention's purpose.  As a site host they should have known better; as a conference organizer ESA should be livid at the Convention Center for granting this permit.


What makes you think the LA Convention Center has control over the lot OUYA rented space in?
 
2013-06-12 04:47:20 PM  

Komplex: skozlaw: Wolf_Blitzer: Setting up your booth across the way, obviously trying to get the benefit of E3 publicity without providing any of the input and yes money required to attend just makes you

Smart enough to get some publicity without having to pay anything significant?

There were spots available across the street. If the ESA didn't want people "leeching" from them they should have bought the space themselves. I'm sure there are lots of businesses that benefit indirectly from their proximity to E3 without paying anything to the ESA, why shouldn't OUYA take advantage as well?

Not really sure what you're driving at there.

If they are willing to be a free rider to E3, what do you think they would be willing to do to independent developers and customers?

When your free publicity shouts "I'm not trustworthy" you failed.


I don't know.  The way things are going, a developer willing to take on the establishment might attract some people.  Just look at all the goodwill Sony is pulling in, simply by not being yanked around by producers.  Making the ESA look like some kind of  video game syndicate shaking down the small guy (which was the tone I got when I read the article) might get them some attention too.  I doubt it will grab many developers, but it might make them seem better to consumers.
 
2013-06-12 04:53:54 PM  

Mytch: Komplex: skozlaw: Wolf_Blitzer: Setting up your booth across the way, obviously trying to get the benefit of E3 publicity without providing any of the input and yes money required to attend just makes you

Smart enough to get some publicity without having to pay anything significant?

There were spots available across the street. If the ESA didn't want people "leeching" from them they should have bought the space themselves. I'm sure there are lots of businesses that benefit indirectly from their proximity to E3 without paying anything to the ESA, why shouldn't OUYA take advantage as well?

Not really sure what you're driving at there.

If they are willing to be a free rider to E3, what do you think they would be willing to do to independent developers and customers?

When your free publicity shouts "I'm not trustworthy" you failed.

I don't know.  The way things are going, a developer willing to take on the establishment might attract some people.  Just look at all the goodwill Sony is pulling in, simply by not being yanked around by producers.  Making the ESA look like some kind of  video game syndicate shaking down the small guy (which was the tone I got when I read the article) might get them some attention too.  I doubt it will grab many developers, but it might make them seem better to consumers.


If only the product wasn't crap. From reports it's got a shiatty controller with shiatty connections and about on par with the graphics you get from smart-phones. So instead of playing Angry Birds on your iPhone, you'll be able to play Angry Birds on your TV (which I think you can do now anyway).
 
2013-06-12 04:58:06 PM  

The Muthaship: I wonder what the overlap is among people calling OUYA leeches and people who pirate a bunch of sh*t for their personal use in this thread.


I've drawn up a Venn Diagram:  O
 
2013-06-12 05:01:46 PM  
Gathering of Developers used to do that years ago (when they existed).  I wonder if it's the same lot.

www.3drealms.com
 
2013-06-12 05:02:48 PM  

BraFish: Gathering of Developers used to do that years ago (when they existed).  I wonder if it's the same lot.

[www.3drealms.com image 800x600]


I wish I had the sunscreen concession at that event.
 
2013-06-12 05:04:15 PM  

xalres: The Muthaship: I wonder what the overlap is among people calling OUYA leeches and people who pirate a bunch of sh*t for their personal use in this thread.

I've drawn up a Venn Diagram:  O


I question your logic.
 
2013-06-12 05:07:00 PM  

Komplex: skozlaw: Wolf_Blitzer: Setting up your booth across the way, obviously trying to get the benefit of E3 publicity without providing any of the input and yes money required to attend just makes you

Smart enough to get some publicity without having to pay anything significant?

There were spots available across the street. If the ESA didn't want people "leeching" from them they should have bought the space themselves. I'm sure there are lots of businesses that benefit indirectly from their proximity to E3 without paying anything to the ESA, why shouldn't OUYA take advantage as well?

Not really sure what you're driving at there.

If they are willing to be a free rider to E3, what do you think they would be willing to do to independent developers and customers?

When your free publicity shouts "I'm not trustworthy" you failed.


Every time I go to a major concert, I always run into people handing out flyers for smaller shows, selling EPs, etc. in the parking lot.    It never struck me to think that they were somehow less trustworthy for going outside the system.
 
2013-06-12 05:09:02 PM  

BraFish: Gathering of Developers used to do that years ago (when they existed).  I wonder if it's the same lot.

[www.3drealms.com image 800x600]


Holy shiat...is that for Duke Nukem Forever? Kinda sad that all the building ads are for PS2 and DNF came out 2 years ago.
 
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