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(ESPN)   Because it worked out so well with Tebow, New York Jets are considering a read-option role for rookie quarterback Geno Smith   (espn.go.com) divider line 29
    More: Obvious, Geno Smith, Tim Tebow, Jets, rookie quarterback, athleticism  
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2013-06-12 01:52:59 PM  
Wow, subby.  Y-you do realize Geno can throw more accurately than Tebow right?
 
2013-06-12 03:09:30 PM  
Geno is a decent QB.
 
2013-06-12 03:39:57 PM  
Marty is a decent OC, so maybe he can do something.
 
2013-06-12 03:41:32 PM  

basemetal: Geno is a decent QB.


Maybe. But the Jets will see to it that he winds up ruined.
 
2013-06-12 03:47:51 PM  
I doubt they want to risk their Week 5 starting QB in the read option.
 
2013-06-12 03:47:54 PM  

basemetal: Geno is was (possibly) a decent QB.


Then ... the Jets ... and the darkness took him.
 
2013-06-12 03:55:56 PM  
And so it was that Geno read from the Necreadopticon, and he immediately had visions of the Old Ones and their terrible designs that normal man and even abnormal man cannot comprehend, for whom the mind blocks images of all but a glimpse because they subconsciously do not want to believe any of it, and Geno was driven incurably mad. The world became naught but butt fractals, anuses forming and unforming without end or reason, and all crying for the ball that Geno no longer possessed for it was already in the hands of the defense.
 
2013-06-12 04:01:04 PM  
They are probably hoping he can do a RGIII with the Jets.  Problem is that Geno was always more of a drop-back passer than a runner (he can, but it's not what he does most of the time).  I don't think the Jets know how to do it and I don't think he'll want to do it either.
 
2013-06-12 04:03:32 PM  
As bad as Tebow was, nothing will ever surpass buttfumble.
 
2013-06-12 04:03:37 PM  
Headline makes no sense, considering the Jets didn't use Tebow in a read-option offense last year.  Maybe they should have, but they didn't.

You know who did use a read-option?  The 2011 Broncos.  And while their offense wasn't particularly good, they did run the ball quite well and the unit was at least good enough to ride a strong defense into the playoffs, with you-know-who at QB.
 
2013-06-12 04:09:04 PM  

Super Chronic: Headline makes no sense, considering the Jets didn't use Tebow in a read-option offense last year.  Maybe they should have, but they didn't.

You know who did use a read-option?  The 2011 Broncos.  And while their offense wasn't particularly good, they did run the ball quite well and the unit was at least good enough to ride a strong defense into the playoffs, with you-know-who at QB.


Subby just cobbled together stuff from the article.

Lazy.
 
2013-06-12 04:12:28 PM  
The more I read of Geno Smith, the more I think he's watched Any Given Sunday one too many times.
 
2013-06-12 04:16:00 PM  
Is he gonna fly home on the first day of training camp if he's not named starter?
 
2013-06-12 04:28:42 PM  
Another opportunity for ESPN to talk about Tebow.  Excellent!
 
2013-06-12 04:35:13 PM  
He will either wind up here or with the Patriots.

www.genospizzabytheslice.com
 
2013-06-12 04:37:40 PM  

basemetal: Geno is a decent QB.


So was Tebow.  In college.
 
2013-06-12 04:47:55 PM  
Isn't Geno known in college to be a better passer and probably a better/faster runner?
If the Jets had any sort of offensive talent (and they don't).. I could see Geno being fine in a read-option scheme. I don't want to believe that (I'm a Pats fan).. but it sure seems that way.

/sensible guy
 
2013-06-12 05:17:55 PM  

Ted Kennedy's Brain Tumor: basemetal: Geno is was (possibly) a decent QB.

Then ... the Jets ... and the darkness took him.


The Jets only have one losing system with Mark Sanchez as QB.

9-7
9-7
11-5
8-8
6-10

Imagine what they could do with a real QB.  Also there are a number of other teams with worse 5 year records.  Let's take, oh, the Arizona Cardinals over the same time period:

9-7
10-6
5-11
8-8
5-11

Considering that 9-7 was generally good enough for first in the NFC West until the last few years, and the Cardinals have had one of the best Wide Receivers in football, I'm not sure if there is much reason to criticize the Jets for this.
 
2013-06-12 06:06:51 PM  

degenerate-afro: Ted Kennedy's Brain Tumor: basemetal: Geno is was (possibly) a decent QB.

Then ... the Jets ... and the darkness took him.

The Jets only have one losing system with Mark Sanchez as QB.

9-7
9-7
11-5
8-8
6-10

Imagine what they could do with a real QB.  Also there are a number of other teams with worse 5 year records.  Let's take, oh, the Arizona Cardinals over the same time period:

9-7
10-6
5-11
8-8
5-11

Considering that 9-7 was generally good enough for first in the NFC West until the last few years, and the Cardinals have had one of the best Wide Receivers in football, I'm not sure if there is much reason to criticize the Jets for this.


Let's not pretend like Miami and the Buffalo Bills were quality opponentsany more so than the Rams (and Cardinals) have or had been in recent years. The Skelton-Lindley-Kolb hydra was by no means enjoyable to behold--though it certainly gave for some first hand experience on how not to draft and develop quarterbacks, offensive linemen or running backs. Let's just round up to anything offensive related, actually.
 
2013-06-12 06:44:35 PM  

Lee's_Austin: Super Chronic: Headline makes no sense, considering the Jets didn't use Tebow in a read-option offense last year.  Maybe they should have, but they didn't.

You know who did use a read-option?  The 2011 Broncos.  And while their offense wasn't particularly good, they did run the ball quite well and the unit was at least good enough to ride a strong defense into the playoffs, with you-know-who at QB.

Subby just cobbled together stuff from the article.

Lazy.


On the other hand, including Tebow in the headline increases the chances of a greenlight by something like 1000%.  One of these days I'm going to submit "Latvian arm wrestler wins national professional championship, unlike Tim Tebow."
 
2013-06-12 06:50:19 PM  
geno smith sucks, fark him
 
2013-06-12 07:25:07 PM  
You can run a read option with some amount of success in the NFL.  It requires your QB to ACTUALLY THROW THE BALL once in a while.

Last year, Tebow threw 8 times and ran 32.  No.  That doesn't work.

Tebow's arm is suspect at best.  But as evidenced in Denver, he can be solidly bad (but not super-horrendous).  Plenty of QBs are solidly bad.
 
2013-06-12 07:27:17 PM  
New York has always had the Giants, but is probably a big enough town to support two professional football franchises. I wonder if they will ever get a second one?
 
2013-06-12 08:36:19 PM  
When Brady (the current God like figure/QB for the Pats) was in college he was only good enough to split time with a guy who today can't keep a fourth string job with the Lions.  Perhaps the coaches do make a difference.  The one time in my life I agree with the Pats coach, let's wait and see.
 
2013-06-12 09:44:22 PM  

rjakobi: The more I read of Geno Smith, the more I think he's watched Any Given Sunday one too many times.


Al Pacino's character from 'Cruisin' would be a better head coach than Rex.
 
2013-06-12 09:54:21 PM  
I think this whole thing shows Bill to be desperate... he's not what he once was.
 
2013-06-13 07:46:32 AM  

docrhody: When Brady (the current God like figure/QB for the Pats) was in college he was only good enough to split time with a guy who today can't keep a fourth string job with the Lions.  Perhaps the coaches do make a difference.


Yeah, not so much.

Tom Brady splitting time with Drew Henson had little to do with Tom Brady himself; Drew Henson was a dick from day one and kept everyone around him on his toes.  Maybe I'll leave early for the draft.  Maybe I won't.  Maybe I'll play baseball for the Yankees.  Maybe I'll play football.  From HS to pro he seemed to enjoy the attention he got from waffling instead of committing his talent to be great at something.  Lloyd Carr basically put him on the field because the guy was a freak athlete and could leave at any time.  Which was a stupid mistake by Carr, because we were just fine with Tom Brady.  I guess some reporters tried to re-write history on that '98 season to build up the "unappreciated" story but no one had any issues with Tom Brady; our O-line and defense sucked -- something Brady Hoke regrets to this day.  If anything, the only thing that was working back in '98 was our passing game and it was kinda cool having two really good QBs.  The ONLY time there was any eyebrow-raising over Tom Brady was when he was first named the starter but no one blamed him for the losses.  As for Henson, he could've been a HoF QB but decided to go the Ryan Leaf route and piss away greatness to be a man-child.

I saw Tom Brady play in college and knew he was very, very, very good.  The dude was hitting NFL windows as a senior.  Scouts criticized his quickness and arm strength, which is stupid because you can improve those and he did.  What you can't do is get a guy like Tebow to ever do what Brady was doing in college, which was threading needles with the football.  The only other QB I saw in the last twenty years of B1G play nearly as good was some guy named Drew Brees, who did the same damn thing to us.
 
2013-06-13 08:39:57 AM  
Geno CAN run, but most of the time he chose not too.  One of our criticisms last year, and pretty much throughout his career here, was that he would hold the ball far too long looking for the home run when the pocket was breaking down.  (Then again, with targets like Austin and Bailey maybe waiting like hell to find them made some kind of sense.)  He's clearly not a Cam Newton threat on every play and the Jets would be foolish to consider that, but he's got a good enough set of wheels that they could be used every so often as a change of pace to keep the defense honest.
 
2013-06-13 08:48:56 AM  
Well, looks like Jets fans can resign themselves to another season of Sanchez, with occasional appearance by a non-running QB in a running role. Genius.
 
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