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2013-06-12 02:07:55 PM  
Just like allergies to peanuts and gluten, this is another entirely fabricated, psychosomatic allergy.
 
2013-06-12 02:13:09 PM  
"Signs" did it!
 
2013-06-12 02:14:47 PM  

Walker: "Signs" did it!


Wat a twist!
 
2013-06-12 02:26:40 PM  
Now all we need is a lens and we can fly like in Discworld.
 
2013-06-12 02:32:27 PM  
i76.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-12 02:34:16 PM  
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com

what someone who has developed a water allergy may look like.
 
2013-06-12 02:38:23 PM  
It's not the water, it's what the fish do in it

/water is for bathing, bourbon is for drinking
 
2013-06-12 02:53:39 PM  
ichef.bbci.co.uk
 
2013-06-12 02:55:35 PM  
www.samruby.com
 
2013-06-12 02:59:30 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Walker: "Signs" did it!

Wat a twist!


I always found that movie dreadfully stupid.

Alien Commander 1: "We found a great planet full of a primitive people, ripe for the taking."
Alien Commander 2: "Please don't listen to this guy. 70% of that planet is covered in water. You know, the stuff that kills us? My friend here is f*cking retarded."
Alien Commander 1: "Nonsense. We have invisible ships."
Alien Commander2: "They have water. Lots of it. We could be exterminated by an army of children with Super Soakers. That's why we've lost hundreds of ships, what they call crop circles. Every time we go into a corn field the irrigation system kicks in and the ship melts and kills everyone."
Alien Commander 1: "Number 2 is being completely ridiculous. Ripe for the taking."
Alien Leader: "I like the way #1 thinks. We'll take our invisible ships down. I can't imagine this water will cause us any real problems. Just make sure our networking engineers don't allow a Macintosh computer virus to destroy our mother ship. That would be totally embarrassing."
 
2013-06-12 03:00:21 PM  
But I'm an ugly giant bag of mostly water!
 
2013-06-12 03:17:57 PM  

justtray: Just like allergies to peanuts and gluten, this is another entirely fabricated, psychosomatic allergy.


GTFO
 
2013-06-12 03:18:24 PM  
I guess it is theoretically possible to have an immune response isolated only to your outer skin layers such that you wouldn't be killed by the water inside your body. Highly unlikely, but possible. My guess is that 99% of these cases are self-diagnosed after reading articles lie these, however.
 
2013-06-12 03:55:53 PM  

bdub77: scottydoesntknow: Walker: "Signs" did it!

Wat a twist!

I always found that movie dreadfully stupid.

Alien Commander 1: "We found a great planet full of a primitive people, ripe for the taking."
Alien Commander 2: "Please don't listen to this guy. 70% of that planet is covered in water. You know, the stuff that kills us? My friend here is f*cking retarded."
Alien Commander 1: "Nonsense. We have invisible ships."
Alien Commander2: "They have water. Lots of it. We could be exterminated by an army of children with Super Soakers. That's why we've lost hundreds of ships, what they call crop circles. Every time we go into a corn field the irrigation system kicks in and the ship melts and kills everyone."
Alien Commander 1: "Number 2 is being completely ridiculous. Ripe for the taking."
Alien Leader: "I like the way #1 thinks. We'll take our invisible ships down. I can't imagine this water will cause us any real problems. Just make sure our networking engineers don't allow a Macintosh computer virus to destroy our mother ship. That would be totally embarrassing."


Yeah because if humans found a planet of 40% easy to reach gold, oil and diamonds but 60% toxic atmosphere we wouldn't put on spacesuits and go mine it. If the atmosphere was perfectly breathable but huge oceans of molten lead, and occasional poison rain storms we could easily track from our orbiting superstation we totally would still go down there and make patterns in the natives fields of crops, and scare them by playfully running into out of focus areas.
 
2013-06-12 03:59:34 PM  
No. No water. No liquids! I'm terribly allergic to them.
 
2013-06-12 04:03:39 PM  
My aunt's niece is allergic to water, a diagnosis she received way back in the 1980's.  You should have seen the girl's skin right after a bath.  It was just awful.
 
2013-06-12 04:05:07 PM  
penny-arcade.smugmug.com
 
2013-06-12 04:08:37 PM  

Slaxl: bdub77: scottydoesntknow: Walker: "Signs" did it!

Wat a twist!

I always found that movie dreadfully stupid.

Alien Commander 1: "We found a great planet full of a primitive people, ripe for the taking."
Alien Commander 2: "Please don't listen to this guy. 70% of that planet is covered in water. You know, the stuff that kills us? My friend here is f*cking retarded."
Alien Commander 1: "Nonsense. We have invisible ships."
Alien Commander2: "They have water. Lots of it. We could be exterminated by an army of children with Super Soakers. That's why we've lost hundreds of ships, what they call crop circles. Every time we go into a corn field the irrigation system kicks in and the ship melts and kills everyone."
Alien Commander 1: "Number 2 is being completely ridiculous. Ripe for the taking."
Alien Leader: "I like the way #1 thinks. We'll take our invisible ships down. I can't imagine this water will cause us any real problems. Just make sure our networking engineers don't allow a Macintosh computer virus to destroy our mother ship. That would be totally embarrassing."

Yeah because if humans found a planet of 40% easy to reach gold, oil and diamonds but 60% toxic atmosphere we wouldn't put on spacesuits and go mine it. If the atmosphere was perfectly breathable but huge oceans of molten lead, and occasional poison rain storms we could easily track from our orbiting superstation we totally would still go down there and make patterns in the natives fields of crops, and scare them by playfully running into out of focus areas.


The aliens in Signs didn't even wear anything to protect them from water. You'd think any civilization advanced enough to develop light-speed space travel could invent a damn hazmat suit. The minute it starts raining, they are all f*cked.
 
2013-06-12 04:10:39 PM  

FuryOfFirestorm: Slaxl: bdub77: scottydoesntknow: Walker: "Signs" did it!

Wat a twist!

I always found that movie dreadfully stupid.

Alien Commander 1: "We found a great planet full of a primitive people, ripe for the taking."
Alien Commander 2: "Please don't listen to this guy. 70% of that planet is covered in water. You know, the stuff that kills us? My friend here is f*cking retarded."
Alien Commander 1: "Nonsense. We have invisible ships."
Alien Commander2: "They have water. Lots of it. We could be exterminated by an army of children with Super Soakers. That's why we've lost hundreds of ships, what they call crop circles. Every time we go into a corn field the irrigation system kicks in and the ship melts and kills everyone."
Alien Commander 1: "Number 2 is being completely ridiculous. Ripe for the taking."
Alien Leader: "I like the way #1 thinks. We'll take our invisible ships down. I can't imagine this water will cause us any real problems. Just make sure our networking engineers don't allow a Macintosh computer virus to destroy our mother ship. That would be totally embarrassing."

Yeah because if humans found a planet of 40% easy to reach gold, oil and diamonds but 60% toxic atmosphere we wouldn't put on spacesuits and go mine it. If the atmosphere was perfectly breathable but huge oceans of molten lead, and occasional poison rain storms we could easily track from our orbiting superstation we totally would still go down there and make patterns in the natives fields of crops, and scare them by playfully running into out of focus areas.

The aliens in Signs didn't even wear anything to protect them from water. You'd think any civilization advanced enough to develop light-speed space travel could invent a damn hazmat suit. The minute it starts raining, they are all f*cked.


Hell they couldn't even stop in Houston. We consider a day with only 90% humidity to be a good day.
 
2013-06-12 04:10:51 PM  

FizixJunkee: My aunt's niece is allergic to water, a diagnosis she received way back in the 1980's.  You should have seen the girl's skin right after a bath.  It was just awful.


Since the human body is like 70% water, how is her body not going full-on bonkers against itself?
 
2013-06-12 04:11:51 PM  

FuryOfFirestorm: FizixJunkee: My aunt's niece is allergic to water, a diagnosis she received way back in the 1980's.  You should have seen the girl's skin right after a bath.  It was just awful.

Since the human body is like 70% water, how is her body not going full-on bonkers against itself?


It's only her skin that seems to be allergic to water.  She can drink water, for example, but bathing and swimming are nightmares.
 
2013-06-12 04:14:23 PM  
I like Signs.
 
2013-06-12 04:14:30 PM  

FuryOfFirestorm: FizixJunkee: My aunt's niece is allergic to water, a diagnosis she received way back in the 1980's.  You should have seen the girl's skin right after a bath.  It was just awful.

Since the human body is like 70% water, how is her body not going full-on bonkers against itself?



Have you ever seen a bad case of psoriasis?  Now imagine psoriasis over the entire body.   That's her response to a single bath.

She can drink water without incident, though.  It's weird.

She's in her late 20's now.  Yes, she's bred.   I haven't seen her since she was about 16 years old, so I don't know if her kid has inherited her allergy or not.
 
2013-06-12 04:16:21 PM  

FizixJunkee: Have you ever seen a bad case of psoriasis? Now imagine psoriasis over the entire body. That's her response to a single bath.


Some company recently invented waterless shower gel to clean yourself with.

FizixJunkee: She can drink water without incident, though. It's weird.


Just don't make her laugh while swallowing, her nose will swell up to Bozo proportions.
 
2013-06-12 04:18:43 PM  

Gunny Highway: I like Signs.


I liked it the first time, but it's kinda dumb on subsequent viewings.
 
2013-06-12 04:22:09 PM  

FuryOfFirestorm: Slaxl: bdub77: scottydoesntknow: Walker: "Signs" did it!

Wat a twist!

I always found that movie dreadfully stupid.

Alien Commander 1: "We found a great planet full of a primitive people, ripe for the taking."
Alien Commander 2: "Please don't listen to this guy. 70% of that planet is covered in water. You know, the stuff that kills us? My friend here is f*cking retarded."
Alien Commander 1: "Nonsense. We have invisible ships."
Alien Commander2: "They have water. Lots of it. We could be exterminated by an army of children with Super Soakers. That's why we've lost hundreds of ships, what they call crop circles. Every time we go into a corn field the irrigation system kicks in and the ship melts and kills everyone."
Alien Commander 1: "Number 2 is being completely ridiculous. Ripe for the taking."
Alien Leader: "I like the way #1 thinks. We'll take our invisible ships down. I can't imagine this water will cause us any real problems. Just make sure our networking engineers don't allow a Macintosh computer virus to destroy our mother ship. That would be totally embarrassing."

Yeah because if humans found a planet of 40% easy to reach gold, oil and diamonds but 60% toxic atmosphere we wouldn't put on spacesuits and go mine it. If the atmosphere was perfectly breathable but huge oceans of molten lead, and occasional poison rain storms we could easily track from our orbiting superstation we totally would still go down there and make patterns in the natives fields of crops, and scare them by playfully running into out of focus areas.

The aliens in Signs didn't even wear anything to protect them from water. You'd think any civilization advanced enough to develop light-speed space travel could invent a damn hazmat suit. The minute it starts raining, they are all f*cked.


No but that's what I said. If the atmopshere was fine, and they had an orbiting station that could monitor weather, then they could afford to walk around naked, gassing alien children. It is what we would do.
 
2013-06-12 04:25:29 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-06-12 04:29:31 PM  

This Looks Fun: Gunny Highway: I like Signs.

I liked it the first time, but it's kinda dumb on subsequent viewings.


I've found people don't like Signs because they don't realize the movie isn't about aliens. It's about the preacher's lost faith.
 
2013-06-12 04:30:06 PM  

Lost Thought 00: I guess it is theoretically possible to have an immune response isolated only to your outer skin layers such that you wouldn't be killed by the water inside your body. Highly unlikely, but possible. My guess is that 99% of these cases are self-diagnosed after reading articles lie these, however.


I don't think this adds up. Isn't an allergy caused by your immune system response? I don't think I have T-cells on my skin surface - they're all inside my blood stream, swimming in (mostly) water.

 (no, I'm not a doctor).
 
2013-06-12 04:33:53 PM  

justtray: Just like allergies to peanuts and gluten, this is another entirely fabricated, psychosomatic allergy.


The medico-industrial complex just doesn't want to admit it, because it is a reaction to Morgellon's syndrome.

But suuuure, they accept "post-polio syndrome" as *finger quotes* legitimate *finger quotes*.

Bullcrap.  Ever known anyone with polio?  Exactly, me neither.  That's why I don't have my children immunized.
 
2013-06-12 04:39:58 PM  

draypresct: Lost Thought 00: I guess it is theoretically possible to have an immune response isolated only to your outer skin layers such that you wouldn't be killed by the water inside your body. Highly unlikely, but possible. My guess is that 99% of these cases are self-diagnosed after reading articles lie these, however.

I don't think this adds up. Isn't an allergy caused by your immune system response? I don't think I have T-cells on my skin surface - they're all inside my blood stream, swimming in (mostly) water.

 (no, I'm not a doctor).


Depends on how severe the reaction is. I knew a guy in college who would swell up if he even touched peanut butter. His enemies would use that to essential lock him out of his room by smearing peanut butter on the door handle. He had to call the RA a few times to wipe it off completely. I knew him in high school and how bad his reaction actually was so I wouldn't ever do that, it was a pretty dick move.
 
2013-06-12 04:41:04 PM  

PIP_the_TROLL: This Looks Fun: Gunny Highway: I like Signs.

I liked it the first time, but it's kinda dumb on subsequent viewings.

I've found people don't like Signs because they don't realize the movie isn't about aliens. It's about the preacher's lost faith.


I suppose I see your point, but for me, finding out that a boring movie has an interesting concept hidden in it doesn't really make it exciting. It makes it slightly interesting. Finding out an exciting movie has an interesting concept hidden in it makes it deep. Aliens is entertaining, but hearing about the hidden motherhood theme makes it worth another look. Citizen Kane is painfully boring and hearing that it's a secret biopic of W.R. Hearst makes it a boring movie about a famous person.

/That's just like, my opinion, man.
 
2013-06-12 04:41:54 PM  

FuryOfFirestorm: Slaxl: bdub77: scottydoesntknow: Walker: "Signs" did it!

Wat a twist!

I always found that movie dreadfully stupid.

Alien Commander 1: "We found a great planet full of a primitive people, ripe for the taking."
Alien Commander 2: "Please don't listen to this guy. 70% of that planet is covered in water. You know, the stuff that kills us? My friend here is f*cking retarded."
Alien Commander 1: "Nonsense. We have invisible ships."
Alien Commander2: "They have water. Lots of it. We could be exterminated by an army of children with Super Soakers. That's why we've lost hundreds of ships, what they call crop circles. Every time we go into a corn field the irrigation system kicks in and the ship melts and kills everyone."
Alien Commander 1: "Number 2 is being completely ridiculous. Ripe for the taking."
Alien Leader: "I like the way #1 thinks. We'll take our invisible ships down. I can't imagine this water will cause us any real problems. Just make sure our networking engineers don't allow a Macintosh computer virus to destroy our mother ship. That would be totally embarrassing."

Yeah because if humans found a planet of 40% easy to reach gold, oil and diamonds but 60% toxic atmosphere we wouldn't put on spacesuits and go mine it. If the atmosphere was perfectly breathable but huge oceans of molten lead, and occasional poison rain storms we could easily track from our orbiting superstation we totally would still go down there and make patterns in the natives fields of crops, and scare them by playfully running into out of focus areas.

The aliens in Signs didn't even wear anything to protect them from water. You'd think any civilization advanced enough to develop light-speed space travel could invent a damn hazmat suit. The minute it starts raining, they are all f*cked.


I read an analysis of the movie once here on Fark, and my opinion has been forever swayed. Bottom line:  I don't think they're aliens in the first place. And the water in the house is harmful to them because it's, ahem, a certain kind of water.

There, piece it together.
 
2013-06-12 04:44:06 PM  

justtray: Just like allergies to peanuts and gluten, this is another entirely fabricated, psychosomatic allergy.


Are you trying to be funny, or a complete moron?
 
2013-06-12 04:48:24 PM  

FuryOfFirestorm: FizixJunkee: My aunt's niece is allergic to water, a diagnosis she received way back in the 1980's.  You should have seen the girl's skin right after a bath.  It was just awful.

Since the human body is like 70% water, how is her body not going full-on bonkers against itself?


Because it's not a true allergy, in the sense that there's an immune response to an otherwise harmless antigen.  It's just an itching sensation that feels similar to other allergies.
 
2013-06-12 04:50:13 PM  

draypresct: Lost Thought 00: I guess it is theoretically possible to have an immune response isolated only to your outer skin layers such that you wouldn't be killed by the water inside your body. Highly unlikely, but possible. My guess is that 99% of these cases are self-diagnosed after reading articles lie these, however.

I don't think this adds up. Isn't an allergy caused by your immune system response? I don't think I have T-cells on my skin surface - they're all inside my blood stream, swimming in (mostly) water.

 (no, I'm not a doctor).


This paper suggests that water acts as a carrier to expose an allergenic factor present in the epidermis to the underlying dermis, which elicits an allergic reaction:  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2429997

This investigator found no increase in plasma histamine levels in a patient, before and after inducement of an aquagenic urticarial response:  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9647271

Most papers in PubMed are case reports of one or two patients, and usually state "who the hell knows what causes this, more research is needed"

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=aquagenic+urticaria;
 
2013-06-12 04:52:22 PM  

justtray: Just like allergies to peanuts and gluten, this is another entirely fabricated, psychosomatic allergy.


Um, you are aware that there are *blood tests* for things like, say, Celiac's, right? And that they can see the intestinal lesions it causes via probes (and will biopsy a section of your intestine just to be certain), right?

/Really, REALLY hope I don't develop it like my mom did.
//But autoimmune fun-stuff seems to run in the family...
 
2013-06-12 04:52:27 PM  

Mr_Fabulous: FuryOfFirestorm: Slaxl: bdub77: scottydoesntknow: Walker: "Signs" did it!


I read an analysis of the movie once here on Fark, and my opinion has been forever swayed. Bottom line:  I don't think they're aliens in the first place. And the water in the house is harmful to them because it's, ahem, a certain kind of water.

There, piece it together.


New info, never heard that before.....
Little help here... Certain kind of water? Holy water? Demons? Citation please!!!
 
2013-06-12 04:53:32 PM  
I imagine that being allergic to water is worse... but I have http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_urticaria
Allergic to Cold.
I Had a break out today because the ac in the car was blowing on my arm.
Side note I had a co worker in Vegas from Mexico that was allergic to the sun.

/CSB
 
2013-06-12 04:56:22 PM  

hardinparamedic: justtray: Just like allergies to peanuts and gluten, this is another entirely fabricated, psychosomatic allergy.

Are you trying to be funny, or a complete moron?


I will gleefully await your research proving otherwise.

Anyone who has taken even psychology 101 knows that physical manifestation can occur from basic punishment and/or reinforcement.

Example - if you study while drunk, you should take your test while drunk, but it doesn't mean you're smarter when you're drunk.
Example 2 - I eat a bunch of peanuts while I'm already sick. I throw up. I associate the throwing up with peanuts and thus peanut 'allergy' when in reality it was just me being sick before. This behavior continues upon further interaction with peanuts because of the mental state.

IE Psychosomatic.
 
2013-06-12 04:57:24 PM  
I'm allergic to pussy! It makes my dick swell up.
 
2013-06-12 04:59:39 PM  
I'm allergic to the cold, and lived in Fargo my entire life.  I break out in hives
 
2013-06-12 05:07:17 PM  

scottydoesntknow: draypresct: Lost Thought 00: I guess it is theoretically possible to have an immune response isolated only to your outer skin layers such that you wouldn't be killed by the water inside your body. Highly unlikely, but possible. My guess is that 99% of these cases are self-diagnosed after reading articles lie these, however.

I don't think this adds up. Isn't an allergy caused by your immune system response? I don't think I have T-cells on my skin surface - they're all inside my blood stream, swimming in (mostly) water.

 (no, I'm not a doctor).

Depends on how severe the reaction is. I knew a guy in college who would swell up if he even touched peanut butter. His enemies would use that to essential lock him out of his room by smearing peanut butter on the door handle. He had to call the RA a few times to wipe it off completely. I knew him in high school and how bad his reaction actually was so I wouldn't ever do that, it was a pretty dick move.


I would have called the police, such reaction can be fatal, I'd like to see their faces when charged with attempted murder.

And for the Independence Day alien-computer-infected-with-Mac-virus thing;the movie makes it clear that much of our current technology is reverse engineered from the crashed scout ship...
 
2013-06-12 05:07:51 PM  
Here's some fun data on peanut allergies

The Asthma and Allergy Foundation of America estimates that peanut allergy is one of the most common causes of food-related death.[14] However, there is an increasing body of medical opinion that, while there definitely are food sensitivities, the dramatic rise in frequency of nut allergies and more particularly the measures taken in response to the threat show elements of mass psychogenic illness, hysterical reactions grossly out of proportion to the level of danger:[15] "About 3.3 million Americans are allergic to nuts, and even more-6.9 million-are allergic to seafood. However, all told, serious allergic reactions to foods cause just 2,000 hospitalisations a year (out of more than 30 million hospitalisations nationwide). And only 150 people (children and adults) die each year from all food allergies combined." Media sensationalism has also been blamed.

What is mass psychogenic illness? - "loss or alteration of function, whereby physical complaints that are exhibited unconsciously have no corresponding organic aetiology"
 
2013-06-12 05:08:25 PM  

justtray: I will gleefully await your research proving otherwise.

Anyone who has taken even psychology 101 knows that physical manifestation can occur from basic punishment and/or reinforcement.

Example - if you study while drunk, you should take your test while drunk, but it doesn't mean you're smarter when you're drunk.
Example 2 - I eat a bunch of peanuts while I'm already sick. I throw up. I associate the throwing up with peanuts and thus peanut 'allergy' when in reality it was just me being sick before. This behavior continues upon further interaction with peanuts because of the mental state.

IE Psychosomatic.


Okay, so I'm going with moron. You're actually going to set here and argue with the established fact that peanut allergies do occur in humans? You're not describing a "peanut allergy'. You're describing a self-diagnosis based on limited information. A real peanut allergy is violent and life-threatening. You don't "throw up", you look like this:

2.bp.blogspot.com

Hint: It's not psychosomatic when you have an anaphylactic reaction.

There's a difference between being diagnosed by a board-certified physician and self-diagnosis. One is a good idea. The other makes you out to be a crackpot.
 
2013-06-12 05:10:09 PM  

justtray: Here's some fun data on peanut allergies

The Asthma and Allergy Foundation of America estimates that peanut allergy is one of the most common causes of food-related death.[14] However, there is an increasing body of medical opinion that, while there definitely are food sensitivities, the dramatic rise in frequency of nut allergies and more particularly the measures taken in response to the threat show elements of mass psychogenic illness, hysterical reactions grossly out of proportion to the level of danger:[15] "About 3.3 million Americans are allergic to nuts, and even more-6.9 million-are allergic to seafood. However, all told, serious allergic reactions to foods cause just 2,000 hospitalisations a year (out of more than 30 million hospitalisations nationwide). And only 150 people (children and adults) die each year from all food allergies combined." Media sensationalism has also been blamed.

What is mass psychogenic illness? - "loss or alteration of function, whereby physical complaints that are exhibited unconsciously have no corresponding organic aetiology"


Wow. Putting in fake URLs?

Bravo, sir. That's exceptional derptrolling.
 
2013-06-12 05:13:22 PM  
i broke out in hives for days after swimming in a salt-water neighborhood swimming pool once

/got nothing
 
2013-06-12 05:15:47 PM  

Felgraf: justtray: Just like allergies to peanuts and gluten, this is another entirely fabricated, psychosomatic allergy.

Um, you are aware that there are *blood tests* for things like, say, Celiac's, right? And that they can see the intestinal lesions it causes via probes (and will biopsy a section of your intestine just to be certain), right?

/Really, REALLY hope I don't develop it like my mom did.
//But autoimmune fun-stuff seems to run in the family...


Celiac's disease isn't an allergy, it's a bowel dysfunction, but even so, it too is very likely strongly related to mass psychogenic illness.

From THIS NYT article;

But the rapidly increasing prevalence of celiac disease, which has quadrupled in the United States in just 50 years, is still mystifying.

Yet the more scientists study celiac disease, the more some crucial component appears in need of identification. Roughly 30 percent of people with European ancestry carry predisposing genes, for example. Yet more than 95 percent of the carriers tolerate gluten just fine. So while these genes (plus gluten) are necessary to produce the disease, they're evidently insufficient to cause it.


Animal studies have reinforced that impression. In mice engineered to express those H.L.A.'s, tolerance to gluten must be deliberately "broken." Without an immunological trigger of some kind, the rodents happily tolerate the protein.

A recent study, which analyzed blood serum from more than 3,500 Americans who were followed since 1974, suggested that such a trigger could strike adults at any time. By 1989, the prevalence of celiac disease in this cohort had doubled.


My aunt, (60) just got diagnosed with this about a year ago. Needless to say I think it's nonsense, considering she ate gluten for years and we're talking about a genetic disorder that should be around someone's entire life.
 
2013-06-12 05:18:36 PM  

hardinparamedic: justtray: Here's some fun data on peanut allergies

The Asthma and Allergy Foundation of America estimates that peanut allergy is one of the most common causes of food-related death.[14] However, there is an increasing body of medical opinion that, while there definitely are food sensitivities, the dramatic rise in frequency of nut allergies and more particularly the measures taken in response to the threat show elements of mass psychogenic illness, hysterical reactions grossly out of proportion to the level of danger:[15] "About 3.3 million Americans are allergic to nuts, and even more-6.9 million-are allergic to seafood. However, all told, serious allergic reactions to foods cause just 2,000 hospitalisations a year (out of more than 30 million hospitalisations nationwide). And only 150 people (children and adults) die each year from all food allergies combined." Media sensationalism has also been blamed.

What is mass psychogenic illness? - "loss or alteration of function, whereby physical complaints that are exhibited unconsciously have no corresponding organic aetiology"

Wow. Putting in fake URLs?

Bravo, sir. That's exceptional derptrolling.


Wikipedia is a fake URL?

Maybe you should educate yourself before you speak again.
 
2013-06-12 05:22:04 PM  

Kaenneth: And for the Independence Day alien-computer-infected-with-Mac-virus thing;the movie makes it clear that much of our current technology is reverse engineered from the crashed scout ship...


The deleted scenes also show an earlier scene where Jurassic Park's Ian Malcolm works with Commander Data inside the ship, specifically mating his computer with the system the scientists had already worked out.
 
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