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(Hot Air)   A year after huge commie fail in Wisconsin Governor recall race, Democrats can't find anyone to run against Scott Walker in 2014   (hotair.com) divider line 75
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2013-06-12 01:44:08 PM

magusdevil: coeyagi: zedster: machoprogrammer: Do you live in Wisconsin? Doyle was just as bad, if not worse than, Walker.

citation needed

Citation:

A governor who inspires patriots like this can't be at all bad.

is that Dusty Rhodes?


It's Andy Warhol's sh*t-stained canvas.

i.qkme.me
 
2013-06-12 01:50:29 PM

RanDomino: From what I can tell, everyone who should be staying in Wisconsin to fight is fleeing there.


I did.  I left that mess behind, and I'm perfectly fine laughing at my former fellow Cheeseheads when they whine about losing their jobs and benefits and can't find work anywhere.  I have friends who voted for Walker, and even though I (and everyone else with more than two functioning brain cells in their head) told them exactly how this all would play out, they still think that electing a screechingly-incompetent, white moron is a far, far better thing to do than elect someone from a party that has the temerity to put a black man in the White House.

They want Wisconsin to turn into this racist, Republican paradise.  Who is anyone to stop them?  If nothing else, in a few short years, Wisconsin will be the perfect, and inevitable, illustration for the colossal failure of Republican policies.  They do not work in the 21st Century, and those policies never will.  Maybe this time it will be bad enough to sink into the thick, incurious and ignorant skulls of Republicans and their supporters.

The best thing for people to do is just leave the state and let them continue to grind it into an absolute failure.  They've done a great job of it so far, after all.
 
2013-06-12 01:55:48 PM

machoprogrammer: EyeballKid: qorkfiend: I'm not particularly surprised. The next governor's term in office will look pretty similar to Obama's: being blamed for the consequences of your predecessor's policies, being blamed for not cleaning up your predecessor's mess fast enough, dealing with a (probably) opposition state legislature, dealing with the inevitable recall election...

The Democratic Party: Cleaning Up After Voters' Shiatty Decisions Since 1945

Do you live in Wisconsin? Doyle was just as bad, if not worse than, Walker.


Doyle was a jacka$$. He won because the previous guy, Scott McCallum, looked at the books after Tommy Thompson left and went "Oh SH*T!" Then, being someone who was more responsible (especially than most "conservatives" today), he went and raised taxes a little and cut spending a little. This made everyone angry at him, because they were used to Tommy "put it on the credit card" Thompson. Hence why Doyle was elected, because Scott McCallum was as close to an honest / conscientious politician as you get today.

On the other hand, Doyle may have been a class 1 jacka$$, but he wasn't remotely bad as Scotty Walker. Doyle understood a thing or two (more likely, he actually hired competent people) about structuring debt. He was more than happy to spend, but he also made sure he got matching funds for this and that before he let someone run free with a pet project. Scotty Walker is Doyle, with a lack of understanding about debt structuring (we're going to be paying even more due to his inept restructuring), and lets the people he agrees with run free with tax credits and spending. He also kills programs that have matching funds, and starts up new programs that cost an arm and a leg. Worse yet, he gives fark all about infrastructure.

We may as well label him: Scotty "the Spendaholic" Walker. He'll spend your tax money on useless sh*t with no short (or long) term return.
 
2013-06-12 02:02:44 PM

Vodka Zombie: The best thing for people to do is just leave the state and let them continue to grind it into an absolute failure


Hi.  Seattle here.  We dog sit for two (completely unrelated) clients.  Both are from Wisconsin.  Both are doctors, recently out of residency.
 
2013-06-12 02:02:47 PM

inglixthemad: machoprogrammer: EyeballKid: qorkfiend: I'm not particularly surprised. The next governor's term in office will look pretty similar to Obama's: being blamed for the consequences of your predecessor's policies, being blamed for not cleaning up your predecessor's mess fast enough, dealing with a (probably) opposition state legislature, dealing with the inevitable recall election...

The Democratic Party: Cleaning Up After Voters' Shiatty Decisions Since 1945

Do you live in Wisconsin? Doyle was just as bad, if not worse than, Walker.

Doyle was a jacka$$. He won because the previous guy, Scott McCallum, looked at the books after Tommy Thompson left and went "Oh SH*T!" Then, being someone who was more responsible (especially than most "conservatives" today), he went and raised taxes a little and cut spending a little. This made everyone angry at him, because they were used to Tommy "put it on the credit card" Thompson. Hence why Doyle was elected, because Scott McCallum was as close to an honest / conscientious politician as you get today.

On the other hand, Doyle may have been a class 1 jacka$$, but he wasn't remotely bad as Scotty Walker. Doyle understood a thing or two (more likely, he actually hired competent people) about structuring debt. He was more than happy to spend, but he also made sure he got matching funds for this and that before he let someone run free with a pet project. Scotty Walker is Doyle, with a lack of understanding about debt structuring (we're going to be paying even more due to his inept restructuring), and lets the people he agrees with run free with tax credits and spending. He also kills programs that have matching funds, and starts up new programs that cost an arm and a leg. Worse yet, he gives fark all about infrastructure.

We may as well label him: Scotty "the Spendaholic" Walker. He'll spend your tax money on useless sh*t with no short (or long) term return.


Hey now, he's not just spending, he's also selling off recurring-revenue-generating properties at a long-term loss to the state!
 
2013-06-12 02:09:10 PM

Jackson Herring: [www.motherjones.com image 557x396]

ah hahah this is amazing


Yeah, who wants to run against hundreds of millions of dollars put up by a couple of crazy billionaires?
 
2013-06-12 02:14:36 PM
As long as they don't put up a Milwaukee democrat, they can win. But they will put up a Milwaukee democrat.
 
2013-06-12 02:22:39 PM

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: inglixthemad: machoprogrammer: EyeballKid: qorkfiend: I'm not particularly surprised. The next governor's term in office will look pretty similar to Obama's: being blamed for the consequences of your predecessor's policies, being blamed for not cleaning up your predecessor's mess fast enough, dealing with a (probably) opposition state legislature, dealing with the inevitable recall election...

The Democratic Party: Cleaning Up After Voters' Shiatty Decisions Since 1945

Do you live in Wisconsin? Doyle was just as bad, if not worse than, Walker.

Doyle was a jacka$$. He won because the previous guy, Scott McCallum, looked at the books after Tommy Thompson left and went "Oh SH*T!" Then, being someone who was more responsible (especially than most "conservatives" today), he went and raised taxes a little and cut spending a little. This made everyone angry at him, because they were used to Tommy "put it on the credit card" Thompson. Hence why Doyle was elected, because Scott McCallum was as close to an honest / conscientious politician as you get today.

On the other hand, Doyle may have been a class 1 jacka$$, but he wasn't remotely bad as Scotty Walker. Doyle understood a thing or two (more likely, he actually hired competent people) about structuring debt. He was more than happy to spend, but he also made sure he got matching funds for this and that before he let someone run free with a pet project. Scotty Walker is Doyle, with a lack of understanding about debt structuring (we're going to be paying even more due to his inept restructuring), and lets the people he agrees with run free with tax credits and spending. He also kills programs that have matching funds, and starts up new programs that cost an arm and a leg. Worse yet, he gives fark all about infrastructure.

We may as well label him: Scotty "the Spendaholic" Walker. He'll spend your tax money on useless sh*t with no short (or long) term return.

Hey now, he's not just spending, he's also selling off recurr ...


I've been in and out of the state this year on contract. What's he sold off now?
 
2013-06-12 02:30:21 PM

EyeballKid: qorkfiend: I'm not particularly surprised. The next governor's term in office will look pretty similar to Obama's: being blamed for the consequences of your predecessor's policies, being blamed for not cleaning up your predecessor's mess fast enough, dealing with a (probably) opposition state legislature, dealing with the inevitable recall election...

The Democratic Party: Cleaning Up After Voters' Shiatty Decisions Since 1945 1933


FTFY
 
2013-06-12 02:51:32 PM
Kind, Feingold...help a brother out.
 
2013-06-12 03:21:46 PM
un4gvn666
If there would have been a strike, you would have lost. People are misinformed enough about unions and their members that a statewide union strike would've driven them further into the arms of Walker and his googly eyes, just to stick it to those "lazy, good-for-nothing union thugs".

That's not the point. A strike is not (necessarily, although sometimes) about winning public support. It's about making business physically impossible to continue. It's not debate. It's coercion.


Vodka Zombie
Who is anyone to stop them?

Could have been you. Instead you fled.


LarryDan43
As long as they don't put up a Milwaukee democrat, they can win. But they will put up a Milwaukee democrat.

Don't be so generous to suggest that they could with with a Madison democrat.


WhiskeySticks
Kind, Feingold...help a brother out.

Kind is the exact kind of spineless moderate-conservative that makes people, no matter what their political persuasion, hate Democrats. Feingold has already said over and over again that he's done with politics.
 
2013-06-12 04:17:40 PM
shiat, I'll do it.
If that moron can run a State I figure anyone can.
 
2013-06-12 04:36:00 PM

RanDomino: un4gvn666
If there would have been a strike, you would have lost. People are misinformed enough about unions and their members that a statewide union strike would've driven them further into the arms of Walker and his googly eyes, just to stick it to those "lazy, good-for-nothing union thugs".

That's not the point. A strike is not (necessarily, although sometimes) about winning public support. It's about making business physically impossible to continue. It's not debate. It's coercion.


Vodka Zombie
Who is anyone to stop them?

Could have been you. Instead you fled.


LarryDan43
As long as they don't put up a Milwaukee democrat, they can win. But they will put up a Milwaukee democrat.

Don't be so generous to suggest that they could with with a Madison democrat.


WhiskeySticks
Kind, Feingold...help a brother out.

Kind is the exact kind of spineless moderate-conservative that makes people, no matter what their political persuasion, hate Democrats. Feingold has already said over and over again that he's done with politics.


Which is too bad, because he was one of maybe a dozen politicians over the past dozen years that had a spine and was a man of the people (rather than a corporate whore).

I don't care what your political leanings, but stop voting for corporate whores...thanks!!

Feingold will always have a special place in my heart for voting against the Patriot Act (aka the unpatriotic act...how is taking away freedoms patriotic?)
 
2013-06-12 04:49:07 PM
One of the most important factors in Walker's recall win was that many people who would have voted against Walker in a regularly scheduled election did not feel like a recall was an appropriate tool to get rid of an elected official who didn't do anything illegal, even if he was a dick.   Unless the tides seriously turn against Democrats in the next year or so, I don't expect  any amount of outside money to save Scott Walker this time around.
 
2013-06-12 04:54:43 PM

elffster: Well, its a 4 way race to the bottom, Arizona, Floriduh, and Texass are some stiff competition...but dont like that stop you, Wisconsin...


You have missed North Carolina for the past 6 months, we are accelerating faster than anyone else to get there.
 
2013-06-12 06:03:28 PM
I would hope that Wisconsin knows better this time around.  I hope Nuuu is correct.  I have family I care about up there.
 
2013-06-12 06:07:44 PM
Nuuu
One of the most important factors in Walker's recall win was that many people who would have voted against Walker in a regularly scheduled election did not feel like a recall was an appropriate tool to get rid of an elected official who didn't do anything illegal, even if he was a dick. Unless the tides seriously turn against Democrats in the next year or so, I don't expect any amount of outside money to save Scott Walker this time around.

It was a bullshiat argument that the Democrats could have easily reversed by appealing to the high-minded Progressive principles that are under attack in Wisconsin, such as citizen control of government, which were the main subtextual motivations behind the 2011 uprising. But the Democrats failed to go there, whether because they fail to understand those principles or because they are also against them; not that it matters since either way the Democrats are either losers or traitors and will never be able to succeed (or rather they will never give us the successes we want; they may get themselves elected, which is the upper limit of "success" to them).
 
2013-06-12 06:27:43 PM
TFA's "unpronounceable" city, Oconomowoc:

Newscaster Diction, likely almost lip-readable: "oh-CONN-oh-mow-Walk"

Everyday Local Parlance (syllables squeezed together, lips barely moving): "(uh)-CON-uh-m'wok"
 
2013-06-12 06:30:22 PM

Nuuu: One of the most important factors in Walker's recall win was that many people who would have voted against Walker in a regularly scheduled election did not feel like a recall was an appropriate tool to get rid of an elected official who didn't do anything illegal, even if he was a dick.   Unless the tides seriously turn against Democrats in the next year or so, I don't expect  any amount of outside money to save Scott Walker this time around.


Meh.  That is a hopeful rationalization.  People didn't like the recall election, but more importantly, voters agreed with Walker on the main issues.

Walker's handling of the collective bargaining issue: 52 percent approved, and 47 percent disapproved.
State law that limited the collective bargaining rights of government workers: 52 percent approved, and 47 percent disapproved.

That is how you win elections.
 
2013-06-12 06:33:26 PM

MindStalker: In a race that is a good 8 months away from needing to announce your intentions, no one has announced their intentions.  Shocking.


Not when they've been courting people to do it for at least 6 months and nobody in the Good Ol' Boy network of Wis Dems will do it.  Of course they usually had the same problem against Tommy but at least they could get the Senate or the Assembly out of the deal.  Now they're happy to stay within 1 seat on the Senate.
 
2013-06-12 06:49:22 PM

coeyagi: gameshowhost: coeyagi: Cletus C.: The city's name is only unpronounceable to someone whose only interest in the state is to see its evil governor ousted because unions.

Wow, you need a degree in archaeology to unearth that talking point.  Here, take a look at this tool that ensure it gets reburied for posterity:

[www.motherjones.com image 557x396]

It ended up being closer to a 3:1 advantage, when all was said and done. Not that 3:1 isn't an absurdity. Just noting.

/but yeah, walker got to jump in early with that 10:1 cash advantage and spend like a mofo, virtually monopolizing the airwaves

I was more interested in the out-of-state money than the total amount of cash.  The talking point from the GOP was the out-of-state money, a beautiful legendary masterstroke of projection.


No doubt about that.
 
2013-06-12 06:57:11 PM

Nuuu: One of the most important factors in Walker's recall win was that many people who would have voted against Walker in a regularly scheduled election did not feel like a recall was an appropriate tool to get rid of an elected official who didn't do anything illegal, even if he was a dick.   Unless the tides seriously turn against Democrats in the next year or so, I don't expect  any amount of outside money to save Scott Walker this time around.


Have you seen some of the names they're trying to get to run?  They either need to bribe Feingold into not doing him and RoJo Part II or totally go out of character and run Vinehout.  And given what tards they've proven to be over the past four years on the state level I doubt either one happens. They'll probably end up not having a clue and it ends up being a runoff between Falk and Ron Kind, and neither one of them can pull it off.
 
2013-06-12 07:19:33 PM

Ken VeryBigLiar: Nuuu: One of the most important factors in Walker's recall win was that many people who would have voted against Walker in a regularly scheduled election did not feel like a recall was an appropriate tool to get rid of an elected official who didn't do anything illegal, even if he was a dick.   Unless the tides seriously turn against Democrats in the next year or so, I don't expect  any amount of outside money to save Scott Walker this time around.

Have you seen some of the names they're trying to get to run?  They either need to bribe Feingold into not doing him and RoJo Part II or totally go out of character and run Vinehout.  And given what tards they've proven to be over the past four years on the state level I doubt either one happens. They'll probably end up not having a clue and it ends up being a runoff between Falk and Ron Kind, and neither one of them can pull it off.


Falk running would all but hand Walker a victory. So I really hope she does not run (but she will since she is an egomaniac)
 
2013-06-12 08:20:13 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Nuuu: One of the most important factors in Walker's recall win was that many people who would have voted against Walker in a regularly scheduled election did not feel like a recall was an appropriate tool to get rid of an elected official who didn't do anything illegal, even if he was a dick.   Unless the tides seriously turn against Democrats in the next year or so, I don't expect  any amount of outside money to save Scott Walker this time around.

Meh.  That is a hopeful rationalization.  People didn't like the recall election, but more importantly, voters agreed with Walker on the main issues.

Walker's handling of the collective bargaining issue: 52 percent approved, and 47 percent disapproved.
State law that limited the collective bargaining rights of government workers: 52 percent approved, and 47 percent disapproved.

That is how you win elections.


Still does nothing to counteract Walker being a degenerate shiatstain on our democracy.
 
2013-06-12 10:44:37 PM
machoprogrammer
Falk running would all but hand Walker a victory. So I really hope she does not run (but she will since she is an egomaniac)

this, in the parlor, with the candlestick
 
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