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(New Europe)   Microsoft, Google, Facebook and Twitter join forces in PRISM case   (neurope.eu) divider line 22
    More: Followup, prisms, Google, Microsoft, Facebook, Twitter, NSA, Twitter join forces, PRISM case  
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2013-06-12 08:19:05 AM  
Form Voltron too?
 
2013-06-12 08:22:20 AM  
One must wonder just what would happen if those four companies decided to dump their FISA requests over a few years old.
 
2013-06-12 08:25:08 AM  
So why is Apple pictured in the stock photo instead of Twitter when they aren't mentioned in the article?
 
2013-06-12 08:27:23 AM  

JasonOfOrillia: So why is Apple pictured in the stock photo instead of Twitter when they aren't mentioned in the article?


To make Apple fanboys and fangirls feel like they are still relevant.
 
2013-06-12 08:33:38 AM  
It's interesting that there is such a discrepancy between what the leaked documents say (full access to servers) vs what the companies say (limited information based on specific requests). Considering the companies are so intent on wanting to release that info, I tend to think whoever wrote that NSA memo was mistaken or used the wrong term. Mind you, I'm still not a fan of collecting aggregate cell phone data. But hopefully this means the information collection doesn't include all emails or something like that.
 
2013-06-12 08:41:52 AM  
Meh, if any of them gave a shiat about your privacy they would leaked this themselves log ago.  They're just P.O.-ed that people are pissed at them now for both their privacy invasions and the ones they allow the government.
 
2013-06-12 09:00:24 AM  
All thats missing is Apple to form the Tech Company Megazord.
 
2013-06-12 09:08:28 AM  

Feepit: JasonOfOrillia: So why is Apple pictured in the stock photo instead of Twitter when they aren't mentioned in the article?

To make Apple fanboys and fangirls feel like they are still relevant.


Heh, so bitter.
 
2013-06-12 09:09:59 AM  
Xbox one's always on Eye of Sauron:  Home Edition.
Google Glass, 'nuff said.
Facebook is just a gigantic aggregate that people willingly feed information into all on their own.
Twitter's content is already by design open to anyone who wants it.

Good times.
 
2013-06-12 09:15:12 AM  

BumpInTheNight: Xbox one's always on Eye of Sauron:  Home Edition.
Google Glass, 'nuff said.
Facebook is just a gigantic aggregate that people willingly feed information into all on their own.
Twitter's content is already by design open to anyone who wants it.

Good times.


But if I have adblock up, I don't get any companies trying to sell me anything, so how are they going to make a dollar off me?
 
2013-06-12 09:25:06 AM  
Companies are a tad late. Hard to believe thid isn't for PR reasons. Which means sharing will start back up within the year.
 
2013-06-12 09:36:25 AM  

Third Day Mark: BumpInTheNight: Xbox one's always on Eye of Sauron:  Home Edition.
Google Glass, 'nuff said.
Facebook is just a gigantic aggregate that people willingly feed information into all on their own.
Twitter's content is already by design open to anyone who wants it.

Good times.

But if I have adblock up, I don't get any companies trying to sell me anything, so how are they going to make a dollar off me?


...not sure if serious...

(If you are:  Facebook sells more then just adspace, in fact adspace is only a tiny portion of their business model)
 
2013-06-12 10:10:54 AM  
Still no word from Verizon and AT&T.
 
2013-06-12 11:25:25 AM  
You forgot PalTalk!
 
2013-06-12 12:07:51 PM  
"Despite Microsoft, Google and twiiterpublish every year 'transparency reports' "

What language was this google translated from? Article is barely legible.
 
2013-06-12 02:35:55 PM  

Prince George: Meh, if any of them gave a shiat about your privacy they would leaked this themselves log ago.  They're just P.O.-ed that people are pissed at them now for both their privacy invasions and the ones they allow the government.


That they weren't willing to go to prison and/or have the company that they work for destroyed by the Federal Government in what their legal department told them was required by law doesn't surprise or concern me.
 
2013-06-12 02:36:27 PM  
As long as these companies are going to pressure the government into action, how about pressuring them into NOT SPYING ON US!?
 
2013-06-12 04:28:29 PM  

MrEricSir: As long as these companies are going to pressure the government into action, how about pressuring them into NOT SPYING ON US!?


...when will people on the internet read articles instead of just talking about them?
 
2013-06-12 07:42:32 PM  
Too late, Google and Facebook.  I was on the fence regarding their business practices anyway.  Prism just made the decision to delete my accounts "permanently" (I know what their interpretation of the word is, and it isn't the one I think of when I use it) very easy. Verizon and Apple are going to be harder for me to extricate myself from, if I even can. Even if the data collection isn't as direct as Snowden's slides indicate, I don't remember anyone declaring martial law, therefore the 4th Amendment still holds. And oh, yes, the President and my Congresstrolls are getting letters from me. So I'll have this cleared up in no time, fellow FARKers. (If only that could be true...[wistful gaze])

/I can't believe I'm on the same side as Scalia on this.  Strange bedfellows indeed...
 
2013-06-12 08:34:05 PM  

dilettantegrrl: Too late, Google and Facebook.  I was on the fence regarding their business practices anyway.  Prism just made the decision to delete my accounts "permanently" (I know what their interpretation of the word is, and it isn't the one I think of when I use it) very easy. Verizon and Apple are going to be harder for me to extricate myself from, if I even can. Even if the data collection isn't as direct as Snowden's slides indicate, I don't remember anyone declaring martial law, therefore the 4th Amendment still holds. And oh, yes, the President and my Congresstrolls are getting letters from me. So I'll have this cleared up in no time, fellow FARKers. (If only that could be true...[wistful gaze])

/I can't believe I'm on the same side as Scalia on this.  Strange bedfellows indeed...


Read this, take a breath, and go about your existence.  The 4th Amendment is fine.
 
2013-06-12 09:42:33 PM  

ZipSplat: dilettantegrrl: Too late, Google and Facebook.  I was on the fence regarding their business practices anyway.  Prism just made the decision to delete my accounts "permanently" (I know what their interpretation of the word is, and it isn't the one I think of when I use it) very easy. Verizon and Apple are going to be harder for me to extricate myself from, if I even can. Even if the data collection isn't as direct as Snowden's slides indicate, I don't remember anyone declaring martial law, therefore the 4th Amendment still holds. And oh, yes, the President and my Congresstrolls are getting letters from me. So I'll have this cleared up in no time, fellow FARKers. (If only that could be true...[wistful gaze])

/I can't believe I'm on the same side as Scalia on this.  Strange bedfellows indeed...

Read this, take a breath, and go about your existence.  The 4th Amendment is fine.


Thank you for the link, Z. That may be the most sensible reporting I've seen in ages. It does address some of the "fishy" details (my 15-year old's PowerPoints look more professional) regarding Prism. I really do try to withhold judgement on things in early days. I may very well have been over enthusiastic in my acceptance of The Guardian's reporting (I never read the Post). Thank you also for the serious and charitable response to my post, rather than the "calm yo tits" condescension more often found in threads.
 
2013-06-13 01:48:56 AM  
dilettantegrrl:
Thank you for the link, Z. That may be the most sensible reporting I've seen in ages. It does address some of the "fishy" details (my 15-year old's PowerPoints look more professional) regarding Prism. I really do try to withhold judgement on things in early days. I may very well have been over enthusiastic in my acceptance of The Guardian's reporting (I never read the Post). Thank you also for the serious and charitable response to my post, rather than the "calm yo tits" condescension more often found in threads.

NPR's leading two pieces on Morning Edition this morning were also about how weak this whole thing is.  The evidence just does not support the purveyed conclusion.  This whole fiasco is embarassing all the way around.  From the primary sources (especially WaPo) down through the credulous echo chamber.  These are the times when real journalists get separated from the mere commentators.
 
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