cmunic8r99: Right. Because there's no way you can get DNA from saliva.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16620753/
basemetal: So, what was the "survey" studying?
Pichu0102: So basically, a research org is paying random people on the road to measure various levels of things in their blood to compile statistics and do research. Cue outrage.
lesliessexxy: CSB:About 10 years ago, I was on a treatment for Hep C (Interferon injections combined with Ribavirin pills) that made me anemic to the point that I fainted while driving one night and veered off the road and flipped my car. When the police showed up, they made me do the FST, after which the cop said, "Now, I'm not going to arrest you for driving while intoxicated, but I'd like you to blow in this thing here". I laughed, looked at my mom and friend who showed up to make sure I was OK and said, "HA! You hear this guy?!" and he turned to them and said, "I'm not going to arrest her for driving while intoxicated".I still didn't blow in his thingy./CSBThis whole story reeks of something foul. Or maybe I've just been watching "Fringe" on repeat too much lately.
my alt's alt's alt: Pichu0102: So basically, a research org is paying random people on the road to measure various levels of things in their blood to compile statistics and do research. Cue outrage.Yeah, by BLOCKING the road so you can't opt out of being involved in a checkpoint, for SCIENCE.
bunner: Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation
IRQ12: I like how they used police for this completely voluntary study, what a joke. I've said it a million times: police should not ever be able to moonlight as a police officer. It's a serious conflict of interest.
IRQ12: bunner: Pacific Institute for Research and EvaluationFrom one of their senior researchers: "Sobriety checkpoints have been used by police in the United States for at least the past two decades to enforce impaired driving laws. Research has indicated that sobriety checkpoints are effective in reducing drinking and driving and alcohol-related fatal crashes. "Hmm, I'd LOVE to see the research behind that. Did they count the number of people who were drunk and wrecked after a checkpoint.
IRQ12: Research has indicated that sobriety checkpoints are effective in reducing drinking and driving and alcohol-related fatal crashes. "
special20: Wow, can you imagine the increase in "research check points" if being gay was illegal?
feanorn: And thanks to SCOTUS, this will probably soon become de rigueuracross the land, without the "voluntary" bits.
AndreMA: The alleged story is fishy. If it was as stated, it would be easier and cheaper (the deputy had to be paid) to set up in a rest stop and erect a sign or two down the road a way soliciting volunteers.
Gyrfalcon: Someone in authority
AndreMA: Pichu0102: So basically, a research org is paying random people on the road to measure various levels of things in their blood to compile statistics and do research. Cue outrage.The outrage is at the involvement of law enforcement with the inherent coercive effect.
BarkingUnicorn: Bingo. "Traffic safety" doesn't need uniformed deputies and cop cars. Hell, road work crews in orange vests and hardhats know how to stop traffic safely.
jmr61: So basically it was voluntary and nothing at all like what the NSA is doing.Nice job dumbmitter.
Gyrfalcon: What's scarier: that the cop did this in conjunction with a governmental agency...or that people went along with it completely voluntarily?It's nothing to do with fear of cops, or desire for a measly amount of money; this is just a retread of Milgrams experiment. Someone in authority asks people to do something fairly obnoxious that they don't have to do, get no benefit from, and could refuse (because this wasn't a regular DUI checkpoint), and people STILL said "Sure!"Because someone said they needed to.
HA HA! TOL'JA SO!
Rumplebluntskin: Its a study to see how much BS the people will let the government get away with.
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