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(AutoWeek)   Think you can drive an F1 car? The steering wheel has more than 35 buttons, switches, levers and lights   (autoweek.com) divider line 45
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2013-06-11 04:46:46 PM
Wow, that's insane.  Good find, subby.
 
2013-06-11 04:58:21 PM
I think I could drive an F-1 car straight into the nearest retaining wall.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-06-11 05:05:28 PM
I'd stall it and be disqualified before I could drive into a wall.
 
2013-06-11 05:12:08 PM
What's the big deal? My laptop has more buttons than that and
 
2013-06-11 05:18:43 PM
www.blogcdn.com
 
2013-06-11 05:48:23 PM
Where's the cupholder? Cigarette lighter?
 
2013-06-11 06:58:45 PM
There are literally hundreds and thousands of blinking, beeping, and flashing lights, blinking and beeping and flashing - they're flashing and they're beeping. I can't stand it anymore! They're blinking and beeping and flashing!
 
2013-06-11 07:00:42 PM
That's why formula one is the best racing to watch. That takes skill
 
2013-06-11 07:14:20 PM
Which one sends the spinning saw blades out in front? That's the only one I really need.
 
2013-06-11 07:30:29 PM

brap: I think I could drive an F-1 car straight into the nearest retaining wall.


It would qualify you as a NASCAR legend as well.
 
2013-06-11 07:54:41 PM
I would have thought the usual in race heart rate of 150-220 bpm for 1-2 hours would eliminate 100% of Fark from ever becoming Grand Prix drivers.
 
2013-06-11 08:19:14 PM
For the record, I never thought I could drive an F1 car.  Hell, I've never even believed I could fit into an F1 car.
 
2013-06-11 08:20:25 PM
I hate that.You want to change radio stations and now the wipers are on and you can't figure out how to stop them.
 
2013-06-11 09:12:16 PM
You pay me the kind of money those drivers get and I'll learn how to work that wheel.
 
2013-06-11 09:19:13 PM

brap: I think I could drive an F-1 car straight into the nearest retaining wall.


We've already got a Grosjean.
 
2013-06-11 09:27:15 PM
animespin.com

All the buttons any race driver needs
 
2013-06-11 09:51:11 PM
No easy button?
 
2013-06-11 09:53:15 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Where's the cupholder? Cigarette lighter?


Thats NASCAR
 
2013-06-11 10:22:41 PM
Richard Hammond did a nice segment on Top Gear where he got to drive an F1 car.

He couldn't do it   He literally couldn't- he wasn't able to drive it fast enough to keep the brakes and tires hot and ended up spinning it out in less than a lap.

I won't even pretend I could do it
 
2013-06-11 10:25:39 PM
As much as I love F1, it is becoming overkill with the tech at this point I think. I think it's even diluting the racing down to commoner-type class racing, where everything has to be "even".

Fark that. What happened to the days in all forms of racing where if you wanted to win, not only did you need a great driver; but the team had to innovate to stay ahead of the competition, not be sucked down to the plebs by asinine "competition" rules.

Give me 70's-early 90's LeMans, F1, IMSA/Camel GT, Group B rally, Can-Am competition. Hell, even NASCAR had some sack back in those days. Don't even get me started about the NHRA running only 1,000ft out of 1,320.

Good racing has gone the way of floppy disks, good rock music, and Bob Barker.

Fark this world.
 
2013-06-11 10:38:33 PM
The asinine competition rules are there because otherwise, the sport would be so expensive that we'd have three, maybe four teams. And having six cars on the grid is definitely a winning philosophy.
 
2013-06-11 11:14:08 PM

UNC_Samurai: The asinine competition rules are there because otherwise, the sport would be so expensive that we'd have three, maybe four teams. And having six cars on the grid is definitely a winning philosophy.


As opposed to the fact that 2/3rds of the field in F1 are mobile chicanes?
 
2013-06-11 11:48:24 PM
From a Photoshop contest ages ago:
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2013-06-11 11:52:19 PM

Tellingthem: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Where's the cupholder? Cigarette lighter?

That's Dick Trickle's car


FTFY
 
2013-06-12 12:08:13 AM
would rather race with Kimi's steering wheel
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2013-06-12 12:14:28 AM

fatalvenom: UNC_Samurai: The asinine competition rules are there because otherwise, the sport would be so expensive that we'd have three, maybe four teams. And having six cars on the grid is definitely a winning philosophy.

As opposed to the fact that 2/3rds of the field in F1 are mobile chicanes?


This is a weird year.  Although I have still found it entertaining, it seems that either the lower end constructors have given up waiting for next year's engine change, or there are only four teams that have figured out these tyres.  I mean, you don't even need to watch Q3, you know the front row cars are going to be Merc and/or RedBull, and the entire podium on race day is going to be RedBull, Merc, Ferrari, and/or Lotus.
 
2013-06-12 12:30:37 AM
Do they still go over 200 mph? Then no, I can't. Don't even need to look at the steering wheel to tell you that.
 
kab
2013-06-12 01:18:00 AM
I keep wanting to like this sport, as I certainly do enjoy all the tech that goes into these cars.  But the racing itself is just not particularly fun to watch.

As for the article.. yeah, that's a lot of buttons, but you're not managing all of them every minute of a race.
 
2013-06-12 01:40:41 AM
Not to mention, they're all blinking out of sequence...
 
2013-06-12 01:50:23 AM

jimpoz: There are literally hundreds and thousands of blinking, beeping, and flashing lights, blinking and beeping and flashing - they're flashing and they're beeping. I can't stand it anymore! They're blinking and beeping and flashing!


ZeroTheHero: Not to mention, they're all blinking out of sequence...


then make them blink in sequence... Do I have to think of everything around here?
 
2013-06-12 04:13:18 AM

brap: I think I could drive an F-1 car straight into the nearest retaining wall.


Even other professional drivers have trouble with Formula 1 cars: Middle East Rally champion failing to drive an F1 car in a straight line.
 
2013-06-12 05:19:11 AM

fatalvenom: As much as I love F1, it is becoming overkill with the tech at this point I think. I think it's even diluting the racing down to commoner-type class racing, where everything has to be "even".

Fark that. What happened to the days in all forms of racing where if you wanted to win, not only did you need a great driver; but the team had to innovate to stay ahead of the competition, not be sucked down to the plebs by asinine "competition" rules.

Give me 70's-early 90's LeMans, F1, IMSA/Camel GT, Group B rally, Can-Am competition. Hell, even NASCAR had some sack back in those days. Don't even get me started about the NHRA running only 1,000ft out of 1,320.

Good racing has gone the way of floppy disks, good rock music, and Bob Barker.

Fark this world.


my university professor sayed once (in german)
"to design a F1 car is easy, realy.
All the dimenssions are specified in the reglement."
 
2013-06-12 07:33:17 AM
If I had a wide open tarmac to practice on for about a few hours before getting onto a real track with large gravel pits and very little of hitting outside walls like maybe Fuji I'd be willing to give it a shot.  Not saying I'd be good at it, but I'd be happy to try if anyone is willing to let me.
 
2013-06-12 07:41:12 AM

UNC_Samurai: brap: I think I could drive an F-1 car straight into the nearest retaining wall.

We've already got a Grosjean.


That one got a literal LOL from me.  Then there's Crashtor Maldonado...
 
2013-06-12 08:15:48 AM

not2bright: You pay me the kind of money those drivers get and I'll learn how to work that wheel.


It's actually more or less what I expected.  A lot of cars these days have more controls than that; and they're on the steering wheel for easy access and a lack of other places to put them.  Some minivans have >100 controls & lights and there are soccer moms driving these things.  Of course, the consequence of hitting the wrong button in YOUR car is that you hear Coldplay on the radio instead of turning on the A/C, but that's still marginally preferable to flying into a wall.

The complexity of the interface does not reflect the complexity of the device.  Hell, some of the nastiest interfaces I've dealt with was because the engineers programmed like 50 functions in two buttons, so getting anything done felt like cracking a safe.  Press and hold button A for three seconds, then while holding down A tap button B, then press button B three times. . . I'd gladly take that wheel over that shiat.

Glockenspiel Hero: Richard Hammond did a nice segment on Top Gear where he got to drive an F1 car.  He couldn't do it   He literally couldn't- he wasn't able to drive it fast enough to keep the brakes and tires hot and ended up spinning it out in less than a lap.


OK, it has a steep learning curve.  So?  I remember what it was like to first learn driving manual shift.  Several hours into my first day I was still stalling the car about one in ten shifts.  I "literally couldn't" drive a manual shift on my first try (almost no one can), but every single driver on the road mastered this skill two generations ago.  The results you get by throwing someone into a metaphorical frying pan are more or less what you'd expect.  Here's where I'm sure someone would say, "Well, let's see you do better," but that's exactly the rhetoric I'm debunking.  Put me behind the wheel of an F1 car and not only do I fully expect to fail miserably, I'd better fail or WTF are those drivers being paid to do?  If it's easy to do, you don't pay a professional to do it in the first place.  At my current job, new hires undergo three full months of full-time training (~2400 hours) just to learn the proprietary system well enough for basic troubleshooting.  You literally aren't trusted with any responsibility until you at least get that far.  If Richard Hammond tried my job for a day he'd look just as inept but that wouldn't be proof that I'm awesome so much as exactly what you'd expect when someone tries to do a professional's job without adequate training & preparation.  Heck, if you don't know anything that can't be learned in a day, I'd have a hard time calling you a grown-up.

I'm not going to pretend driving an F1 car is easy.  It's NOT the point I'm making.  I'm saying there's a difference between something that's really hard (like driving an F1 car), and something that just has a complex interface or steep learning curve.  It's one thing to acknowledge something is hard, but to get all awestruck over some of the most obvious aspects of it strikes me as rather silly.  That wheel actually looks really easy to use with a few days' practice; it has to be because you can't be fumbling around with the controls at 200mph.  That's not the way to engineer a winning car and I'd imagine an article talking about how difficult it is to use would only insult the people who designed it.
 
2013-06-12 08:22:33 AM

dragonchild: three full months of full-time training (~2400 hours)


3x20x8 = 480. Double-counted the work week in my maths.  Derp.

Still, point stands.  If it takes 480 hours of training just to do something basic, someone who tries it with no training has no chance.  This is just an expectation of the professional world.
 
2013-06-12 08:35:11 AM
get some damn perspective

farm3.static.flickr.com
 
2013-06-12 09:21:29 AM
oooooo....35 buttons and switches? How cute...

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2013-06-12 09:34:46 AM
And if this thing went 200mph, it'd fall out of the sky like a brick.
www.wired.com
 
2013-06-12 11:31:58 AM

On-Off: get some damn perspective

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gretzkyscores: oooooo....35 buttons and switches? How cute...

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dragonchild: And if this thing went 200mph, it'd fall out of the sky like a brick.
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Yes, but aircraft don't typically spend two hours trying to get around other aircraft 6-18 inches apart while avoiding static obstacles.
 
2013-06-12 11:41:45 AM

UNC_Samurai: Yes, but aircraft don't typically spend two hours trying to get around other aircraft 6-18 inches apart while avoiding static obstacles


The Reno Air Races say "Hi!"

/not trying to start a pissing match
//respect F1
 
2013-06-12 11:49:32 AM

UNC_Samurai: Yes, but aircraft don't typically spend two hours trying to get around other aircraft 6-18 inches apart while avoiding static obstacles.


That console was for the space shuttle.
 
2013-06-12 12:07:27 PM

gretzkyscores: UNC_Samurai: Yes, but aircraft don't typically spend two hours trying to get around other aircraft 6-18 inches apart while avoiding static obstacles

The Reno Air Races say "Hi!"

/not trying to start a pissing match
//respect F1


You're right, although they fly at an altitude higher than the course pylons, correct?

dragonchild: UNC_Samurai: Yes, but aircraft don't typically spend two hours trying to get around other aircraft 6-18 inches apart while avoiding static obstacles.

That console was for the space shuttle.


Yeah, they're more concerned about bits of their own vehicle.  In other words, don't let Alonso land the Shuttle.
 
2013-06-12 01:18:10 PM
now landing the shuttle manualy would be the most terrifying task ever...

 "a glider"

I still can't believe it always went well.
 
2013-06-12 08:57:13 PM
My motorcycle has 31 controls, indicators and annunciators on the handlebars and instrument cluster.
 
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