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2013-06-11 12:01:24 PM
So Superman doesn't die in this movie? Thanks for the spoiler, asshole.
 
2013-06-11 12:46:59 PM
And I hear movie execs/DC still want the JLA film to be "edgy and dark".
Because when you can't write a good script, go edgy and dark, that way you can scream it's art and not pandering, you know, because Avengers was all edgy...and....dark....or something.
I don't know, I can't see from behind the giant pile of money they made.
 
2013-06-11 12:47:24 PM
DC/WB is desperate to enjoy the same franchise success Marvel/Disney has been having with their films.

Unless Man of Steel flops hard, as in Superman IV bad, they will shovel out sequels, and spinoffs, and new Batman films that aren't as dark, and another Green Lantern film, and a film with The Flash, and with Woder Woman. . .
 
2013-06-11 12:47:26 PM

Mugato: So Superman doesn't die in this movie? Thanks for the spoiler, asshole.


Actually, Joseph Gordon-Levitt's character takes over the role as Superman in the next one.
 
2013-06-11 12:49:33 PM
Justice League, where every story has to start with somehow eliminating Super Man from the picture in order to be interesting.
 
2013-06-11 12:55:56 PM
I've said this in other Superman threads, but "Injustice: Gods Among Us" would be the PERFECT JLA movie, introducing lots of characters who don't have to have a LOT to do, but they all do something specific.  And then they could branch out into their own films after.

They WON'T make that movie because they're not going to have Superman be the villain and they're certainly not going to have Superman KILLING anyone!

But damn it's a great story
 
2013-06-11 12:57:31 PM
I am still waiting on the Auqaman movie!!
 
2013-06-11 12:58:00 PM

Zombie DJ: And I hear movie execs/DC still want the JLA film to be "edgy and dark".


I think they should stick with Superman and forget JLA for a while. I know monkey see monkey do but they just don't have the setup that the Avengers spent so much time on. And the characters are lame. Wonder Woman? Aquaman? Green Lantern already flopped.
 
2013-06-11 12:59:16 PM

Zombie DJ: And I hear movie execs/DC still want the JLA film to be "edgy and dark".
Because when you can't write a good script, go edgy and dark, that way you can scream it's art and not pandering, you know, because Avengers was all edgy...and....dark....or something.
I don't know, I can't see from behind the giant pile of money they made.


What the hell are you babbling on about?

Goyer had said that Superman is still goinging to be an optimistic character. They are just trying to place him in a "realistic" world.
 
2013-06-11 12:59:58 PM

buntz: They WON'T make that movie because they're not going to have Superman be the villain and they're certainly not going to have Superman KILLING anyone!


And it may work in a videogame but are they really going to have Superman duel with the Joker or some other human (besides Batman)?

They could make it a STV animated film.
 
2013-06-11 01:03:43 PM

Mugato: And it may work in a videogame but are they really going to have Superman duel with the Joker or some other human (besides Batman)?


I don't mean the fighting aspect, I mean the story.  If you remove the individual fights that make up the game, the storyline is fantastic.  The fighting is just so they could make it a game.

I don't want to give away any spoilers but it's a fantastic story.
 
2013-06-11 01:04:17 PM

Mugato: Zombie DJ: And I hear movie execs/DC still want the JLA film to be "edgy and dark".

I think they should stick with Superman and forget JLA for a while. I know monkey see monkey do but they just don't have the setup that the Avengers spent so much time on. And the characters are lame. Wonder Woman? Aquaman? Green Lantern already flopped.


Green lantern flopped cause it was a bad movie...not a bad concept.
Wonder Woman has a lot of female fans- they just have to find the right tone.

And Auquaman is actually pretty cool- especially the Brave and the Bold version!
 
2013-06-11 01:04:39 PM

Silverstaff: DC/WB is desperate to enjoy the same franchise success Marvel/Disney has been having with their films.

Unless Man of Steel flops hard, as in Superman IV bad, they will shovel out sequels, and spinoffs, and new Batman films that aren't as dark, and another Green Lantern film, and a film with The Flash, and with Woder Woman. . .


Didnt Superman 4 make more money than Superman Returns?

// tried to find proof....but intertubes are not cooperating.
 
2013-06-11 01:14:45 PM

Mugato: I think they should stick with Superman and forget JLA for a while. I know monkey see monkey do but they just don't have the setup that the Avengers spent so much time on. And the characters are lame. Wonder Woman? Aquaman? Green Lantern already flopped.


Yeah, because Thor and Captain America are the epitome of coolness...
 
2013-06-11 01:14:54 PM

Silverstaff: DC/WB is desperate to enjoy the same franchise success Marvel/Disney has been having with their films.

Unless Man of Steel flops hard, as in Superman IV bad, they will shovel out sequels, and spinoffs, and new Batman films that aren't as dark, and another Green Lantern film, and a film with The Flash, and with Woder Woman. . .


From what I've read, MoS won't flop ...but DC was aiming for "Batman Begins" level of "OMG I HAVE TO SEE THIS MOVIE 3 MORE TIMES!"

That's not good.
 
2013-06-11 01:15:27 PM

Chiquidin: Didnt Superman 4 make more money than Superman Returns?


God no. S4 made like $15mill.
 
2013-06-11 01:16:43 PM
Who would be big enough and bad enough to convince Superman that he needs to team up with others to fight? Only one I can think of is Darkseid

Then who would you get to play
Wonder Woman: Should she be modernized? Pants or no pants?
Green Lantern: Which one? If Hal, bring back Ryan Reynolds or get someone else?
Flash: Which one? Barry, Jay, Wally or even Bart?
Martian Manhunter?
Green Arrow?
Batman: Restart from scratch and if so, would Joseph Gordon Levitt want to play him?

Would supporting characters be seen such as Lois Lane?
 
2013-06-11 01:16:49 PM

rocky_howard: Yeah, because Thor and Captain America are the epitome of coolness...


Well at least their movies did well before the Avengers came out and didn't bomb like GL or get their show canceled after 5 episodes like WW.
 
2013-06-11 01:26:19 PM

texdent: Who would be big enough and bad enough to convince Superman that he needs to team up with others to fight? Only one I can think of is Darkseid

Then who would you get to play
Wonder Woman: Should she be modernized? Pants or no pants?
Green Lantern: Which one? If Hal, bring back Ryan Reynolds or get someone else?
Flash: Which one? Barry, Jay, Wally or even Bart?
Martian Manhunter?
Green Arrow?
Batman: Restart from scratch and if so, would Joseph Gordon Levitt want to play him?

Would supporting characters be seen such as Lois Lane?


This. JL is a tricky franchise. They really need to plan ahead if they want the success of The Avengers. Maybe follow the steps of this new Superman. Rewrite their origin stories, as long as they keep the elements that make those characters...
 
2013-06-11 01:27:55 PM
True fact, whenever Hans Zimmer scores a movie with Russel Crowe in it the movie is awesome.

//listening to it now, track 17 is incredible (could use a little more brass and electric guitar for a few chords to punctuate, but otherwise just show of the original theme's grandeur
 
2013-06-11 01:28:32 PM

Mugato: rocky_howard: Yeah, because Thor and Captain America are the epitome of coolness...

Well at least their movies did well before the Avengers came out and didn't bomb like GL or get their show canceled after 5 episodes not have the show picked up after their bomb of a pilot like WW.


FTFY.
 
2013-06-11 01:33:36 PM
If you took the core of the story ofThe New Frontier and updated it to take place in present day instead of the Silver Age, I think it would work pretty well as a starting point for an origin story for the Justice League.
 
2013-06-11 01:35:41 PM

Mad_Radhu: If you took the core of the story ofThe New Frontier and updated it to take place in present day instead of the Silver Age, I think it would work pretty well as a starting point for an origin story for the Justice League.


That's the irony of it:  DC Animation is just killing it with the stories they've put out.  Meanwhile, the live action?  To quote Delroy Lindo: "I've seen better film on teeth."
 
2013-06-11 01:49:13 PM
The Marvel movies succeed because they are made by people who are fans of comic books.

DC movies fail because they are made by people who are trying to turn comic books into movies.
 
2013-06-11 01:54:22 PM
They can probably wait for a JL movie to introduce WW, and then handle it like the 'Secret Origins' story of the JLAS.  She should, IMNSHO, have her classic costume, with minor variations at most.
 
2013-06-11 01:55:53 PM
The only reason I'd want to see a JLA movie is to see how they'd get Batman to keep up with those man-gods.

Flash and Aquaman would be incredibly tricky characters to pull of convincingly. I'd suggest leaving Aquaman out altogether.
 
2013-06-11 02:00:27 PM

Charlie Chingas: texdent: Who would be big enough and bad enough to convince Superman that he needs to team up with others to fight? Only one I can think of is Darkseid

Then who would you get to play
Wonder Woman: Should she be modernized? Pants or no pants?
Green Lantern: Which one? If Hal, bring back Ryan Reynolds or get someone else?
Flash: Which one? Barry, Jay, Wally or even Bart?
Martian Manhunter?
Green Arrow?
Batman: Restart from scratch and if so, would Joseph Gordon Levitt want to play him?

Would supporting characters be seen such as Lois Lane?

This. JL is a tricky franchise. They really need to plan ahead if they want the success of The Avengers. Maybe follow the steps of this new Superman. Rewrite their origin stories, as long as they keep the elements that make those characters...


A significant obstacle for a Justice League move is the absence of any clear unifying agency. The Avengers were united by S.H.I.E.L.D.: the organization contacted and worked with Iron Man in his movies, they took in and rehabilitated the thawed Captain America and team conveniently brought in Thor by sharing a common villain. This left only Bruce Banner to recruit within the Avengers movie itself, as the two secondary characters of the team were already members of S.H.I.E.L.D..

The Justice League, by contrast, is a direct alliance of the superheroes. No outside agency worked to bring them together; the heroes voluntarily chose to work together against common, great threats. As a consequence, they lack a convenient method that a writer may use to unify them in a single cinematic production. Also problematic is the number of heroes in the Justice League; even a reasonably small assortment of members includes the Green Lantern, the Flash, Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, the Martian Manhunter and possibly Aquaman. DC faces the decision of whether they wish to explore origin stories for all of those characters, whether they wish to introduce those characters in the combined Justice League film and risk confusing audience members with little outside knowledge of them (which is further complicated by the fact that studio executives tend to assume viewers to be morons who need everything explained in detail), or whether they believe that they can incorporate one of the characters as a secondary hero in another character's movie as was done with Hawkeye and Black Widow for Marvel's movies.

tl;dr: Warner Brothers/DC seems to think that they can copy the success of Marvel's cinematic work, but lacks the understanding that their hero leagues are fundamentally different and thus cannot be approached in the same way.
 
2013-06-11 02:00:33 PM
What about The Wonder Twins!

I need me some Zan and Jana!
/and Gleek!
 
2013-06-11 02:02:29 PM

Kangaroo_Ralph: The only reason I'd want to see a JLA movie is to see how they'd get Batman to keep up with those man-gods.

Flash and Aquaman would be incredibly tricky characters to pull of convincingly. I'd suggest leaving Aquaman out altogether.


I am confident that Mr. James Cameron can produce a quality adaptation.
 
2013-06-11 02:05:08 PM

DjangoStonereaver: The Marvel movies succeed because they are made by people who are fans of comic books.

DC movies fail because they are made by people who are trying to turn comic books into movies.


That's the gist of it; that's why Timm needs to be the head honcho @ DC.
 
2013-06-11 02:08:25 PM

Dimensio: Charlie Chingas: texdent: Who would be big enough and bad enough to convince Superman that he needs to team up with others to fight? Only one I can think of is Darkseid

Then who would you get to play
Wonder Woman: Should she be modernized? Pants or no pants?
Green Lantern: Which one? If Hal, bring back Ryan Reynolds or get someone else?
Flash: Which one? Barry, Jay, Wally or even Bart?
Martian Manhunter?
Green Arrow?
Batman: Restart from scratch and if so, would Joseph Gordon Levitt want to play him?

Would supporting characters be seen such as Lois Lane?

This. JL is a tricky franchise. They really need to plan ahead if they want the success of The Avengers. Maybe follow the steps of this new Superman. Rewrite their origin stories, as long as they keep the elements that make those characters...



tl;dr: Warner Brothers/DC seems to think that they can copy the success of Marvel's cinematic work, but lacks the understanding that their hero leagues are fundamentally different and thus cannot be approached in the same way.

Pretty much this. The only way I can see them unifying the heroes is a common enemy that is too big for any of them to handle individually. The one problem I see with Superman is the amount of action taking place. Meaning, the whole world is seeing what's going on. Where are the other heroes. In regards to The Avengers, each one had their "fight" that was pretty low-key; the whole world wasn't involved. I just hope they don't screw the pooch to try to be the next Marvel. Man, JL is turning out to be one tough cookie to figure out how to bake properly.
 
2013-06-11 02:14:12 PM

Charlie Chingas: The one problem I see with Superman is the amount of action taking place. Meaning, the whole world is seeing what's going on. Where are the other heroes.


Well...

... Wonder Woman was dealing with internal politics of her people
... Aquaman was doing the Atlantis thing
... Green Lantern was off-planet
... Martian Manhunter hadn't arrived yet.

Which just leaves the Flash. Who gets stoned nightly to slow himself down. Or something.

/Wonder Twins!
 
2013-06-11 02:31:34 PM
Skip Justice League and go straight to Kingdom Come.

images.wikia.com
 
2013-06-11 02:34:13 PM

Rwa2play: DjangoStonereaver: The Marvel movies succeed because they are made by people who are fans of comic books.

DC movies fail because they are made by people who are trying to turn comic books into movies.

That's the gist of it; that's why Timm needs to be the head honcho @ DC.


That will never happen because there is no "DC Studios" except in name:  there is the 'Superman' group,
the 'Batman' group, and the 'every other DC comicbook character' group.  They do not talk to each other,
and all answer to a nested series of Time/Warner bean counters who manage to stifle anything resembling
creativity or fidelity to the source material.  These warring fiefdoms exist because of the way that Time/
Warner has handled licensing of the various characters over the years (sort of like how the pre-Disney
buy-out Marvel parcelled out the X-Men, Spider Man, Daredevil and The Fantastic Four in seperate
bundles that they have spent years trying to bring back into their umbrella), and are so entrenched in
the Time/Warner corporate structure that there is no way they will ever work together in the ways that
they must to be able to compete with what Marvel is doing.

This ensures that we will never, ever have a BRAVE & THE BOLD Superman/Batman movie:  neither of
the wholly seperate bureaucracies will go for it because each one will do their best to make sure their
character is the one who comes out looking best, and to my mind there really should be a B&tB movie
before there's a JLA movie, if only because that is a great way to test the waters for a DC Cinematic
Universe, but it also would allow them the flexibility to do a story that spans 2 movies, which would get
the heavy-hitters in the universe to the fore and allow them to introduce the other JLA members, and then
they could do a 2nd, actual JLA movie which would only have Supes & Bats in minor roles.

Of course, I've put more thought into this than DC has in 10 years.......
 
2013-06-11 02:40:45 PM

Rwa2play: That's the gist of it; that's why Timm needs to be the head honcho @ DC.


Said before, say it again: Give him all possible control and a wide berth.  Don't question him.  He knows this what to do, much better than any suit at DC or WB.
 
2013-06-11 02:45:27 PM

texdent: Who would be big enough and bad enough to convince Superman that he needs to team up with others to fight? Only one I can think of is Darkseid

Then who would you get to play
Wonder Woman: Should she be modernized? Pants or no pants? Gina Carano, after a few months of acting coaching. No, no goddamn pants.
Green Lantern: Which one? If Hal, bring back Ryan Reynolds or get someone else?  John Stewart. Taye Diggs or Shemar Moore
Flash: Which one? Barry, Jay, Wally or even Bart?  Nobody cares. Actually, Ryan Reynolds would've been way better as Flash than in that turd of a GL movie.
Martian Manhunter?  Of course. No idea who to play him, though.
Green Arrow?  Yes, get Stephen Amell from the Arrow series (but only for a small part, to be expanded in the sequel)
Batman: Restart from scratch and if so, would Joseph Gordon Levitt want to play him?  Nolan's universe is off-limits (closed story). Restart from scratch, again, no idea who could play him (though I might get flamed for this, I think Channing Tatum could pull it off with enough direction.

Would supporting characters be seen such as Lois Lane?  Any excuse to have Amy Adams is sufficient for me.


Anyone else have some ideas?
 
2013-06-11 02:47:19 PM

Garko: Skip Justice League and go straight to Kingdom Come.


Just had a nice conversation with a friend about this. Our conclusion was this:
Can't be done. Just can't. There's no way to get all of "that" into a movie for the masses. Even if it was possible. No one would understand except for people like us. That's who it was created for.

SHAZAM!
 
2013-06-11 02:52:09 PM

Mugato: rocky_howard: Yeah, because Thor and Captain America are the epitome of coolness...

Well at least their movies did well before the Avengers came out and didn't bomb like GL or get their show canceled after 5 episodes like WW.


Meh, yes WW looked to be a piece of shiat, but I can't actually think of a single succesful Marvel TV production.

However, Smallville & Arrow, to date DC's the clear winner on the TV front.
 
2013-06-11 02:54:33 PM

C. Hines: Garko: Skip Justice League and go straight to Kingdom Come.

Just had a nice conversation with a friend about this. Our conclusion was this:
Can't be done. Just can't. There's no way to get all of "that" into a movie for the masses. Even if it was possible. No one would understand except for people like us. That's who it was created for.

SHAZAM!


If you had the bankroll to throw at it, it would make for a very good cable miniseries.  Only way to tell the story properly.
 
2013-06-11 02:55:03 PM

You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: Arrow


I only saw the first half of the season, but was the second half even one quarter as awesome?
 
2013-06-11 02:55:09 PM

un4gvn666: texdent: Who would be big enough and bad enough to convince Superman that he needs to team up with others to fight? Only one I can think of is Darkseid

Then who would you get to play
Wonder Woman: Should she be modernized? Pants or no pants? Gina Carano, after a few months of acting coaching. No, no goddamn pants.
Green Lantern: Which one? If Hal, bring back Ryan Reynolds or get someone else?  John Stewart. Taye Diggs or Shemar Moore
Flash: Which one? Barry, Jay, Wally or even Bart?  Nobody cares. Actually, Ryan Reynolds would've been way better as Flash than in that turd of a GL movie.
Martian Manhunter?  Of course. No idea who to play him, though.
Green Arrow?  Yes, get Stephen Amell from the Arrow series (but only for a small part, to be expanded in the sequel)
Batman: Restart from scratch and if so, would Joseph Gordon Levitt want to play him?  Nolan's universe is off-limits (closed story). Restart from scratch, again, no idea who could play him (though I might get flamed for this, I think Channing Tatum could pull it off with enough direction.

Would supporting characters be seen such as Lois Lane?  Any excuse to have Amy Adams is sufficient for me.

Anyone else have some ideas?


Carano - there is not enough time to teach her how to be a good actress to pull this off.  Find someone else.  I would even be up for giving Dushku a chance at the role.
For John Stewart  - how about Idris Elba instead of two male models that act now?
Yep, totally agree - Reynolds would have made a much better Flash than Green Latern
Martian Manhunter - how about Carl Lumbly.  The whole point is the voice, why not keep the guy who is the Martian to the fans since most of his appearances will be in CGI...
Arrow - again, agree, keep Amell. Or if you wanted to go with Arrow as being the older, wiser guy who has been doing this a while, you could go with a veteran actor.
Batman - I thought the point of the ending of DKR was that they could use JGL as Batman moving forward?  Or at least as Nightwing.

I would suspect you will see Lois Lane in a JL movie about as much as Pepper Potts showed up in The Avengers.
 
2013-06-11 02:56:25 PM

You Are All Sheep: Only way to tell the story properly.


The DCAU folks response:

CHALLANGE ACCEPTED!
 
2013-06-11 02:57:55 PM

buntz: I've said this in other Superman threads, but "Injustice: Gods Among Us" would be the PERFECT JLA movie, introducing lots of characters who don't have to have a LOT to do, but they all do something specific.  And then they could branch out into their own films after.

They WON'T make that movie because they're not going to have Superman be the villain and they're certainly not going to have Superman KILLING anyone!

But damn it's a great story


They won't make that movie because the very idea of Batman battling Superman ending in any other way than Batman being dead in less than a second insults the intellect of everyone in the room and only serves to jerk off the slashfic vigilante fantasies of armchair anarchist tough guys.
 
2013-06-11 03:00:58 PM

You Are All Sheep: If you had the bankroll to throw at it, it would make for a very good cable miniseries. Only way to tell the story properly.


Almost all of the DC universe is made for TV, it would allow them to keep the center of focus on whatever aspect you are showcasing at the time, still have concurrent story lines, and allow the occasional cross over.

Then once people are more integrated into the familiar DC verse, then you hit them with a JLA movie using folks from the TV shows. The characters are just too BIG to try and mash into a single cookie without at least giving people morsels along the way.

That's the difference between Marvel and DC, DC has characters that can stand on their own fairly easily where as Marvel's universe almost requires them to be interconnected. X-Men is the best example of this, any single one of the characters is really honestly only paper deep where as the group as a whole when placed in the context of a mutant vs human is more easily digested.
 
2013-06-11 03:01:19 PM

imgod2u: They won't make that movie because the very idea of Batman battling Superman ending in any other way than Batman being dead in less than a second insults the intellect of everyone in the room and only serves to jerk off the slashfic vigilante fantasies of armchair anarchist tough guys.


whatculture.com
 
2013-06-11 03:02:23 PM

PizzaJedi81: You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: Arrow

I only saw the first half of the season, but was the second half even one quarter as awesome?


I think the show actually got better in the second half once they were comfortable with what they were doing.  The people involved with Arrow def learned from the mistakes that Smallville made and have set the stage for a lot of the mythology without hammering you over the head with it.  If you did not read the comics of know any of Arrow's history, you did not get lost in the mythology.  If you are a fan, there were many shout outs and set ups that will bode well for the future seasons.
 
2013-06-11 03:03:05 PM

Mugato: rocky_howard: Yeah, because Thor and Captain America are the epitome of coolness...

Well at least their movies did well before the Avengers came out and didn't bomb like GL or get their show canceled after 5 episodes like WW.


Bad products = The characters suck.

So X-Men and Daredevil suck? Got it.
 
2013-06-11 03:03:11 PM

bluenote13: un4gvn666: texdent: Who would be big enough and bad enough to convince Superman that he needs to team up with others to fight? Only one I can think of is Darkseid

Then who would you get to play
Wonder Woman: Should she be modernized? Pants or no pants? Gina Carano, after a few months of acting coaching. No, no goddamn pants.
Green Lantern: Which one? If Hal, bring back Ryan Reynolds or get someone else?  John Stewart. Taye Diggs or Shemar Moore
Flash: Which one? Barry, Jay, Wally or even Bart?  Nobody cares. Actually, Ryan Reynolds would've been way better as Flash than in that turd of a GL movie.
Martian Manhunter?  Of course. No idea who to play him, though.
Green Arrow?  Yes, get Stephen Amell from the Arrow series (but only for a small part, to be expanded in the sequel)
Batman: Restart from scratch and if so, would Joseph Gordon Levitt want to play him?  Nolan's universe is off-limits (closed story). Restart from scratch, again, no idea who could play him (though I might get flamed for this, I think Channing Tatum could pull it off with enough direction.

Would supporting characters be seen such as Lois Lane?  Any excuse to have Amy Adams is sufficient for me.

Anyone else have some ideas?

Carano - there is not enough time to teach her how to be a good actress to pull this off.  Find someone else.  I would even be up for giving Dushku a chance at the role.
For John Stewart  - how about Idris Elba instead of two male models that act now?
Yep, totally agree - Reynolds would have made a much better Flash than Green Latern
Martian Manhunter - how about Carl Lumbly.  The whole point is the voice, why not keep the guy who is the Martian to the fans since most of his appearances will be in CGI...
Arrow - again, agree, keep Amell. Or if you wanted to go with Arrow as being the older, wiser guy who has been doing this a while, you could go with a veteran actor.
Batman - I thought the point of the ending of DKR was that they could use JGL as Batman moving forward?  Or ...


Dushku is tiny. How can anyone even suspend disbelief long enough to think she could beat anyone in a fight?
Idris Elba is too old.
I agree on Manhunter.

No, the point of the end of TDKR was to wrap around to the overarching theme of the trilogy, which is that anyone can make a difference if they're dedicated enough. "Anyone can be Batman", Bruce says to Blake in the cop car. Blake becoming Batman was his way of keeping the legacy going after Bruce was retired, and taking an opportunity to make a real difference in the city, like he originally wanted when he became a cop.

In no way will they use JGL as the next Batman, though (at least, if they want it to make money). Nolan's Batman films can be considered ElseWorld or one-shot graphic novel movies, in that they can't and shouldn't tie into any other continuity. Batman in a JL movie will be Bruce Wayne, period, and he won't be grounded to the sense of realism created by Nolan.
 
2013-06-11 03:03:58 PM

bluenote13: If you are a fan, there were many shout outs and set ups that will bode well for the future seasons.


GA is one of my top three favorites (GL being one of the others.).

I loved how, in the first five seconds, you saw Deathstroke's mask n a pole.
 
2013-06-11 03:04:18 PM
Dimensio:

A significant obstacle for a Justice League move is the absence of any clear unifying agency. The Avengers were united by S.H.I.E.L.D.: the organization contacted and worked with Iron Man in his movies, they took in and rehabilitated the thawed Captain America and team conveniently brought in Thor by sharing a common villain. This left only Bruce Banner to recruit within the Avengers movie itself, as the two secondary characters of the team were already members of S.H.I.E.L.D..

The Justice League, by contrast, is a direct alliance of the superheroes. No outside agency worked to bring them together; the heroes voluntarily chose to work together against common, great threats...


But that's also all the Avengers were in the comics.  S.H.I.E.L.D. bringing them together is purely an invention of the movies, so it doesn't really make sense to talk about what did or didn't happen in the Justice League comic books as if they have to do the movies the same way.  They could do the exact same thing in the JL movie with Checkmate (and/or Amanda Waller), but then they really would just be copying Marvel's formula, so they should try to find another way.
 
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