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2013-06-11 09:13:10 AM  
I wonder what the governor of Constantinople thinks of that.
 
2013-06-11 09:48:26 AM  

dittybopper: I wonder what the governor of Constantinople thinks of that.


That's nobodys business but the Turks.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-06-11 09:48:27 AM  
I wonder what the governor of Constantinople thinks of that.

That's none of your business.
 
2013-06-11 09:49:03 AM  

ZAZ: I wonder what the governor of Constantinople thinks of that.

That's none of your business.


NIIIIIIIICE.
 
2013-06-11 09:50:57 AM  
Those protesters are gonna get the works.

/and I see I'm not the first one in here with a TMBG reference
 
2013-06-11 09:52:50 AM  
Hmm. I guess the news blackout on this story has been lifted. I'll bet our news channels won't actually cover the protesters as having valid concerns tho. They'll paint them as whiny petulant children or something to that effect.
 
2013-06-11 09:57:21 AM  

xanadian: Those protesters are gonna get the works.

/and I see I'm not the first one in here with a TMBG reference


Yeah, there were like Four Lads here ahead of you
 
2013-06-11 10:04:04 AM  

Farce-Side: dittybopper: I wonder what the governor of Constantinople thinks of that.

That's nobodys business but the Turks.


BYZANTIUM!
 
2013-06-11 10:07:51 AM  

Weaver95: Hmm. I guess the news blackout on this story has been lifted. I'll bet our news channels won't actually cover the protesters as having valid concerns tho. They'll paint them as whiny petulant children or something to that effect.


They can't decide if these are grubby hippy rich trust fund ows agitators or brave heroes of democracy fighting against encroaching islamification.

They will ultimately side with the government however.
 
2013-06-11 10:15:55 AM  

ZAZ: I wonder what the governor of Constantinople thinks of that.

That's none of your business.


Triangle wins.
 
2013-06-11 10:17:41 AM  

Donnchadha: xanadian: Those protesters are gonna get the works.

/and I see I'm not the first one in here with a TMBG reference

Yeah, there were like Four Lads here ahead of you


Let's settle this debate in New Amsterdam
 
2013-06-11 10:19:58 AM  
I know some girl who just left for Turkey on a vacation.
 
2013-06-11 10:21:06 AM  
Don't be daffy
Just be laughey
Not get out of my park
You dirty fark
Or I'll spit you out like Mango Turkish Taffy.
 
2013-06-11 10:21:50 AM  

Tigger: Weaver95: Hmm. I guess the news blackout on this story has been lifted. I'll bet our news channels won't actually cover the protesters as having valid concerns tho. They'll paint them as whiny petulant children or something to that effect.

They can't decide if these are grubby hippy rich trust fund ows agitators or brave heroes of democracy fighting against encroaching islamification.

They will ultimately side with the government however.


Of that I have no doubt. The last thing we will hear is that the protesters might have a valid point.
 
2013-06-11 10:22:08 AM  
I know there's a few Turkish Farkers on occasion.  Anyone see a good explanation on why the PM is being so...  Well, douchey?  I mean his rhetoric, calling the environmental protesters scum, terrorists, criminal cabal, etc etc.
 
2013-06-11 10:24:38 AM  
i1151.photobucket.com
♫ ♫ ♫ ♫ ♫ ♫
Istanbul was Constantinople
Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works?
That's nobody's business but the Turks
♫ ♫ ♫ ♫ ♫ ♫
 
2013-06-11 10:26:12 AM  
Why do they need nature at all? Can't they just make a birdhouse in their soul?
 
2013-06-11 10:30:34 AM  
You know, we talk about how the US is a 1984 dystopic totalitarian state but it's still pretty decent compared to the stuff compared what's going on in places like Turkey.
 
2013-06-11 10:30:48 AM  

dittybopper: I wonder what the governor of Constantinople thinks of that.


I'm just glad you didn't end your post with a question mark.
 
2013-06-11 10:31:01 AM  
fubegra.net

Joey, have you ever been in a Turkish prison?
 
2013-06-11 10:32:47 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: I know there's a few Turkish Farkers on occasion.  Anyone see a good explanation on why the PM is being so...  Well, douchey?  I mean his rhetoric, calling the environmental protesters scum, terrorists, criminal cabal, etc etc.


The Colbert Report had someone on from the Brookings Institute who basically said Turkey's PM is a control freak who is trying to shape Turkey into his own image (ie: an Islamic State).

That doesn't play well in places like Istanbul.
 
2013-06-11 10:33:38 AM  
These comments deliver.  The 90s.
 
2013-06-11 10:35:45 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Satanic_Hamster: I know there's a few Turkish Farkers on occasion.  Anyone see a good explanation on why the PM is being so...  Well, douchey?  I mean his rhetoric, calling the environmental protesters scum, terrorists, criminal cabal, etc etc.

The Colbert Report had someone on from the Brookings Institute who basically said Turkey's PM is a control freak who is trying to shape Turkey into his own image (ie: an Islamic State).

That doesn't play well in places like Istanbul.


It's the standard pattern of fascism - increase political control by mobilising uneducated rural people while decrying the centrist urban areas as elitist unpatriotic and out of touch.
 
2013-06-11 10:38:28 AM  

Bad_ad85: Why do they need nature at all? Can't they just make a birdhouse in their soul?


No need. The blue canary lives in the outlet.
 
2013-06-11 10:40:21 AM  
This describes how I'm feeling all the time.
 
2013-06-11 10:45:13 AM  

buckler: Bad_ad85: Why do they need nature at all? Can't they just make a birdhouse in their soul?

No need. The blue canary lives in the outlet.


John has a long mustache.
 
2013-06-11 10:45:13 AM  

Donnchadha: xanadian: Those protesters are gonna get the works.

/and I see I'm not the first one in here with a TMBG reference

Yeah, there were like Four Lads here ahead of you


I'd like to dig you up and shake your hand.
 
2013-06-11 10:47:27 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Satanic_Hamster: I know there's a few Turkish Farkers on occasion.  Anyone see a good explanation on why the PM is being so...  Well, douchey?  I mean his rhetoric, calling the environmental protesters scum, terrorists, criminal cabal, etc etc.

The Colbert Report had someone on from the Brookings Institute who basically said Turkey's PM is a control freak who is trying to shape Turkey into his own image (ie: an Islamic State).

That doesn't play well in places like Istanbul.


Of course the traditional method to resolve these problems is a military coup by the Turkish Army.  Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
 
2013-06-11 10:47:37 AM  
Reading, in TFA, that "a large force of riot police entered Taksim Square early on Tuesday, firing tear gas grenades and using water cannons to disperse demonstrators who have occupied the square for more than a week as part of a protest to save a nearby park that the government wants to develop" makes me think of People's Park in Berkeley.

Y'all farkers can be flippant and "ironic" all you want.
 
2013-06-11 10:47:53 AM  

dittybopper: I wonder what the governor of Constantinople thinks of that.


I see my work was done long in advance of me coming here.
 
2013-06-11 10:52:20 AM  
True Fact: I've been following this story for 10 days now, through posts by a regular in my travel community. The guy is not just another schmoe... he's a well-connected, well-educated and articulate lifelong Istanbul resident who (unfortunately) has had family and friends caught up in this thing since day 1.

He's the OP of this thread:
http://www.fodors.com/community/europe/brutal-crack-down-on-peaceful -e nvironmental-protest.cfm
 
2013-06-11 10:54:12 AM  
Even if it is intended to be comforting, there is no way for that not to sound creepy.

Hang in there, Turkish Farkers.
 
2013-06-11 10:54:53 AM  

Mrtraveler01: You know, we talk about how the US is a 1984 dystopic totalitarian state but it's still pretty decent compared to the stuff compared what's going on in places like Turkey.


Ya because the powers that be didn't crack skulls in the US when folks decided to practice the right of people to assemble. Do you not remember all the BS the police did in Oakland, NYC etc ?

This is always how the status quo reacts when the people wake up and call them on their BS.

In the US OWS etc failed because the propaganda painting them as useless pot smoking hippy wannabes allowed the police and their political masters to use any and all tactics and most people in this country said GOOD.

The lie is just stronger here but there is NO difference with how power will react when confronted by the masses.
 
2013-06-11 10:55:06 AM  

Mrtraveler01: You know, we talk about how the US is a 1984 dystopic totalitarian state but it's still pretty decent compared to the stuff compared what's going on in places like Turkey.


America - not as bad as Turkey!

/what ever happened to America being #1?
//if the best that can be said about this country is "We're not quite a third world hellhole!", then America is a great big #2
 
2013-06-11 10:58:12 AM  

buckler: Bad_ad85: Why do they need nature at all? Can't they just make a birdhouse in their soul?

No need. The blue canary lives in the outlet.


The One True TheDavid: Reading, in TFA, that "a large force of riot police entered Taksim Square early on Tuesday, firing tear gas grenades and using water cannons to disperse demonstrators who have occupied the square for more than a week as part of a protest to save a nearby park that the government wants to develop" makes me think of People's Park in Berkeley.

Y'all farkers can be flippant and "ironic" all you want.


Who watches over you?

// the Turks
// because it's their business, apparently
// and also Dr Worm's
// um...YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME, TURKISH COPS!
 
2013-06-11 10:58:16 AM  
a nearby park that the government wants to develop.

They don't want to "develop" it. They want to destroy it.
 
2013-06-11 10:59:03 AM  
Maybe the protesters can catch "The Midnight Express" out of Istanbul...
 
2013-06-11 11:00:45 AM  

King Something: //if the best that can be said about this country is "We're not quite a third world hellhole!", then America is a great big #2


Turkey is nowhere close to being a third world hellhole.  It gets a LOT worse than Ankara.
 
2013-06-11 11:00:47 AM  
What a bunch of Turkeys.
 
2013-06-11 11:03:41 AM  

Donnchadha: xanadian: Those protesters are gonna get the works.

/and I see I'm not the first one in here with a TMBG reference

Yeah, there were like Four Lads here ahead of you


Well played!
 
2013-06-11 11:03:45 AM  

prodigyking: Maybe the protesters can catch "The Midnight Express" out of Istanbul...


Telephone Call From Istanbul
 
2013-06-11 11:07:41 AM  
Governor of Istanbul tweets vs. Rulers of Flatulent Tuesdays or Master of Tumescent Aqua?

There must be mayors and governors all over the world licking their lips to watch Occupy Gezi [Insert local place name here] do the police against the students dance.  Especially in a world class metropolis that virtually has no parks or green belts at all (a spectacular waterfront though).

Imagine Central Park in good old being bulldozed to make way for a Walmart, Sam's, Best Buiy and Dominos, NYPD car repair facility, and parking lot. Imagine the protest.
 
2013-06-11 11:10:21 AM  

Weaver95: Hmm. I guess the news blackout on this story has been lifted. I'll bet our news channels won't actually cover the protesters as having valid concerns tho. They'll paint them as whiny petulant children or something to that effect.


The Turkish news media, that was NOWHERE to be seen during the protests, is now all over this story because it's largely led by the government. My friends on the ground told me that there are very few protestors who stay overnight in the park. All of a sudden, a group of "protesters" that no one recognizes descends on the park this morning and starts throwing rocks and cocktails at the police. They then in turn turn on water cannons but it's like on the weakest strength possible. Then the tear gas and so forth starts up. Very bizarre.
 
2013-06-11 11:11:10 AM  
Let me go look for links, but the SLD on the violent protestors is that they are either undercover cops or hired actors.

In addition, the istanbul police arrested 73 lawyers without charges.

Some of the signs they tore down from Taksim square has images protected under the Turkish constitution.
 
2013-06-11 11:11:49 AM  

BitwiseShift: Governor of Istanbul tweets vs. Rulers of Flatulent Tuesdays or Master of Tumescent Aqua?

There must be mayors and governors all over the world licking their lips to watch Occupy Gezi [Insert local place name here] do the police against the students dance.  Especially in a world class metropolis that virtually has no parks or green belts at all (a spectacular waterfront though).

Imagine Central Park in good old being bulldozed to make way for a Walmart, Sam's, Best Buiy and Dominos, NYPD car repair facility, and parking lot. Imagine the protest.


You know, Erdogan still refuses to just keep the park as is. His level of petulance and arrogance is just astounding.
 
2013-06-11 11:13:45 AM  
about the lawyers (Article in English):    http://rt.com/news/turkish-police-lawyers-courthouse-534/
 
2013-06-11 11:16:56 AM  
BTW... Istanbul is an awesome city to visit. It's not some third-world hell hole; it's a sophisticated, modern metropolis with (arguably) the most fascinating history of any city on earth.
 
2013-06-11 11:19:10 AM  
Why any of this is important to people living in the rick and isolated United States:
http://m.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jun/10/turkish-protests-w es t
 
2013-06-11 11:20:21 AM  
Al-Jazeera has had a live blog of the events since the very beginning. For those interested: Link
 
2013-06-11 11:24:40 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: I know there's a few Turkish Farkers on occasion.  Anyone see a good explanation on why the PM is being so...  Well, douchey?  I mean his rhetoric, calling the environmental protesters scum, terrorists, criminal cabal, etc etc.


http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/turning-away-from-erdoga n- turkey-protests-seek-to-throw-off-repression-8647901.html

It's all about Erdogan trying to rid himself of Kemalism, and finally the people have said enough! No more! This far and no further!
 
2013-06-11 11:25:16 AM  

King Something: Mrtraveler01: You know, we talk about how the US is a 1984 dystopic totalitarian state but it's still pretty decent compared to the stuff compared what's going on in places like Turkey.

America - not as bad as Turkey!

/what ever happened to America being #1?


Obama kept his campaign promise to end American arrogance, by ending American exceptionalism.

/how did you think we would "rejoin the international community" of tyrannical hellholes?
 
2013-06-11 11:26:25 AM  
This apparently shows some opinions about Erdogan from his supporters and members of his party.
Their plan of Islamicisation is no longer covert.
(Coco:  let me know if there are problems with any of the translations).
Quite scary stuff. Isn't some of this blasphemous?

Fake poet Fatma Durmus: `Making Tayyip sad is making Allah sad`
AKP Aydin city leader Ismail Eser: `Recep Tayyip Erdogan is like a second prophet for us`
AKP Bursa MP Huseyin Sahin: `Believe me, I think, even touching our prime minister is divine service`
EU Mayer and chief negotiator Egemen Bagis: `The place where our prime minister was born is such a holy place too`
AKP Cayeli municipality Riza Cakir: `The televizion that our Prime Minister will appear on cannot be put on the floor`
Sycophant journalist Yigit Bulut: `The prime minister is my atamdir (founding father)`
Fickle politician Suleyman Soylu: Erdogan is the eternal head of Turkey`
Health deputy minister Agah Kafkas: `Doing the same thing that prime minister does is like a prayer`
i1220.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-11 11:28:40 AM  

Slaxl: Satanic_Hamster: I know there's a few Turkish Farkers on occasion.  Anyone see a good explanation on why the PM is being so...  Well, douchey?  I mean his rhetoric, calling the environmental protesters scum, terrorists, criminal cabal, etc etc.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/turning-away-from-erdoga n- turkey-protests-seek-to-throw-off-repression-8647901.html

It's all about Erdogan trying to rid himself of Kemalism, and finally the people have said enough! No more! This far and no further!


Here is an explanation from an ex-supporter of the AKP:

http://www.todayszaman.com/columnist-317820-back-to-the-old-turkey.h tm l
 
2013-06-11 11:30:37 AM  

Agarista: This apparently shows some opinions about Erdogan from his supporters and members of his party.
Their plan of Islamicisation is no longer covert.
(Coco:  let me know if there are problems with any of the translations).
Quite scary stuff. Isn't some of this blasphemous?

Fake poet Fatma Durmus: `Making Tayyip sad is making Allah sad`
AKP Aydin city leader Ismail Eser: `Recep Tayyip Erdogan is like a second prophet for us`
AKP Bursa MP Huseyin Sahin: `Believe me, I think, even touching our prime minister is divine service`
EU Mayer and chief negotiator Egemen Bagis: `The place where our prime minister was born is such a holy place too`
AKP Cayeli municipality Riza Cakir: `The televizion that our Prime Minister will appear on cannot be put on the floor`
Sycophant journalist Yigit Bulut: `The prime minister is my atamdir (founding father)`
Fickle politician Suleyman Soylu: Erdogan is the eternal head of Turkey`
Health deputy minister Agah Kafkas: `Doing the same thing that prime minister does is like a prayer`
[i1220.photobucket.com image 591x585]


Lol, not a bad translation! What a bunch of sycophants.
 
2013-06-11 11:33:06 AM  
It's ok everyone, I have gotten the opinions of the Turkish people over there.  Here is a highlight of what everyone has said.  (Translated for your approval.)

Everything is catching
Yes, everything is catching on fire
(everythings catching on fire)
Everything is catching on fire (everythings catching on fire)

Fingertips
Fingertips
Fingertips

I hear the wind blow
I hear the wind blow
It seems to say, hello, hello,
Im the one who loves you so.

Hey now everybody now
Hey now everybody
Hey now everybody now

Whos that standing out the window?

I found a new friend underneath my pillow.

C'mon (C'mon) and wreck my car
C'mon (C'mon) and wreck my car
C'mon (C'mon) and wreck my car

Aren't you the guy who hit me in the eye?
Aren't you the guy who hit me in the eye?

Please pass the milk, please
Please pass the milk, please
Please pass the milk, please

Leave me alone, leave me alone

Whos knocking on the wall? 

All alone all alone
All by myself

What's that blue thing doing here? 

Something grabbed ahold of my hand
I didn't know what had my hand
But that's when all my troubles began

I don't understand you (I don't understand you)
I just don't understand you (I don't understand you)
I don't understand the things you say
I can't understand a single word
I don't understand you (I don't understand you)
I just don't understand you (I don't understand you)
I cannot understand you (I don't understand you)
I don't understand you (I don't understand you)

I heard a sound, I turned around
I turned around to find the thing
That made the sound

Mysterious whisper
Mysterious whisper
Mysterious whisper
Mysterious whisper

The day that love came to play

I'm having a heart attack
I'm having a heart attack
I'm having a heart attack
I'm having a heart attack

Fingertips
Fingertips

I walk along darkened corridors
And I walk along darkened corridors
I walk along darkened corridors
And I walk along darkened corridors
 
2013-06-11 11:41:40 AM  

WienerButt: I know some girl who just left for Turkey on a vacation.


I'm supposed to go there myself in about two and a half weeks. Keeping my fingers crossed that I don't have to cancel.

/so I'm really getting a kick out of most of these replies
/oblig
 
2013-06-11 11:46:23 AM  
Most of the touristy places are south of the golden horn. you should be ok. :)
 
2013-06-11 12:01:50 PM  
Is this where I point out that "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)" is actually not a TMBG song, but a cover?

=Smidge=
/The TMBG version is still the best version, though...
 
2013-06-11 12:04:26 PM  

coco ebert: All of a sudden, a group of "protesters" that no one recognizes descends on the park this morning and starts throwing rocks and cocktails at the police.


AND I keep throwing them back.  I like my Scotch "neat" thank you very much!
 
2013-06-11 01:05:59 PM  
Like a good neighbor.  Torture and death is there
 
2013-06-11 01:28:01 PM  
 
2013-06-11 02:26:25 PM  
I made some QnD maps for anyone travelling to Istanbul for fun.  If you're there for more than 2 or 3 days, let me know and I can give more directed advice.

http://s1220.photobucket.com/user/agarista/slideshow/Istanbul
 
2013-06-11 02:36:11 PM  
Agarista, thanks for that. Some of my friends have been getting a little nervous about the trip, and they're only meeting us down in Marmaris for a gulet trip. I'll be there a week before them and I'm hoping to see at least some of Istanbul itself.
 
2013-06-11 02:47:19 PM  
Most of it should be just fine.  If you start to feel funky, take an overnight bus (like Ulusoy) to Izmir, but ask to get off at Selchuk.  Stay in Selcuk for a day or so (it's a cute town) and rent a vespa to go to Ephesus, the Artemis temple, and up the hill to the Greek town of Sirince (say shear-een-jay) which is famous for making fruit wine.
 
2013-06-11 03:32:34 PM  
They closing all the ports.
 
2013-06-11 03:38:31 PM  

BalugaJoe: They closing all the ports.


link?
 
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