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(Politico)   "Leaks Fallout: How bad could it be?" If we're leaking fallout, I'd say we've just gone from bad to worse   (politico.com) divider line 28
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2013-06-11 10:12:40 AM  
Leaks Fallout?

Bad?

You on crack, subby?  All of the Fallout expansions Bethesda has put out have been excellent.    I'm sure Leaks will be good too.
 
2013-06-11 10:20:17 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: Leaks Fallout?

Bad?

You on crack, subby?  All of the Fallout expansions Bethesda has put out have been excellent.    I'm sure Leaks will be good too.


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2013-06-11 10:20:25 AM  
"Leaks Fallout"

There an old people joke in there somewhere.
 
2013-06-11 10:24:57 AM  

magores: "Leaks Fallout"

There an old people joke in there somewhere.


Sounds like a bug report for Depends.
 
2013-06-11 10:25:57 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: Leaks Fallout?

Bad?

You on crack, subby?  All of the Fallout expansions Bethesda has put out have been excellent.    I'm sure Leaks will be good too.


I do like the iterations of Fallout from Bethesda, but i'm looking forward to Wasteland 2 in a few months.
 
2013-06-11 10:36:09 AM  
Yeah. Man on the Street interviews by the local NBC/FOX team are no longer done in gun shops or at least not always done in gun shops.

No one asked the "reporter" why the media didn't bring up government snooping in the last 12 years, or why Valerie Plame was just a character in a made-for-tv movie?.  Or maybe it was just too hard to hear over the "media" whining about leak investigations of the media with real search warrants.
 
2013-06-11 10:41:53 AM  
Just so we're all clear on what the FOUNDING DOCUMENT of the COUNTRY that we live in STATES:  Essentially, a contract between the people and the government.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

The current program sweeps up ALL information communicated.

This is in completeopposition to the basic 4th amendment.

Let's call a spade a spade. This is a clear 4th amendment violation.
Seems like freedom / liberty were only values we held when we were safe from 'terror'.


/If they hate us for our freedoms... does this mean they no longer hate us, since we have no more freedoms?
 
2013-06-11 10:45:34 AM  
Somewhere in between those two takes lies the truth.

Really?  Please educate us on how finding out what everyone already assumed hurts national security.
 
2013-06-11 10:51:04 AM  

tedthebellhopp: Satanic_Hamster: Leaks Fallout?

Bad?

You on crack, subby?  All of the Fallout expansions Bethesda has put out have been excellent.    I'm sure Leaks will be good too.

I do like the iterations of Fallout from Bethesda, but i'm looking forward to Wasteland 2 in a few months.


Hell yes, I am too. And Fallout 4, if it ever shows up. Even if it IS supposedly set in Baaahston.
 
2013-06-11 11:02:37 AM  
the CIA/NSA/FBI/etc are all owned by big business and the wealthy.  they don't like their cover blown.  and they use 'national security' and 'terrorism' as a blanket to cover up their crimes against Democracy and our fading republic.  they aren't protecting me against some underwear bomber.  they are protecting themselves and their Wealth/Property.


you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
-bob dylan
 
2013-06-11 11:05:56 AM  
I'm tired of your mind games, Bethesda.  Just release the goddamn thing already, and I'll give you my money.
 
2013-06-11 11:16:45 AM  
Is it coincidence that the more outraged a person is, the fewer specifics they seem to know?
 
2013-06-11 11:18:57 AM  

tedthebellhopp: Satanic_Hamster: Leaks Fallout?

Bad?

You on crack, subby?  All of the Fallout expansions Bethesda has put out have been excellent.    I'm sure Leaks will be good too.

I do like the iterations of Fallout from Bethesda, but i'm looking forward to Wasteland 2 in a few months.


This. A million times this. I played the original on my apple 2+ and still have fond memories of yanking the power cord out of the wall to keep the game from wiping my characters after some ill-advised antics with RPGs. I wonder if they're going to have a hardcore mode this time around?
 
2013-06-11 11:25:03 AM  

deadsanta: tedthebellhopp: Satanic_Hamster: Leaks Fallout?

Bad?

You on crack, subby?  All of the Fallout expansions Bethesda has put out have been excellent.    I'm sure Leaks will be good too.

I do like the iterations of Fallout from Bethesda, but i'm looking forward to Wasteland 2 in a few months.

This. A million times this. I played the original on my apple 2+ and still have fond memories of yanking the power cord out of the wall to keep the game from wiping my characters after some ill-advised antics with RPGs. I wonder if they're going to have a hardcore mode this time around?


The "hardcore" mode on New Vegas was way too frustrating.
 
2013-06-11 11:28:07 AM  
Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper said "information collected under this program is among the most important and valuable foreign intelligence information we collect, and is used to protect our nation from a wide variety of threats. The unauthorized disclosure of information about this important and entirely legal program is reprehensible and risks important protections for the security of Americans."
 
2013-06-11 11:35:44 AM  

UNC_Samurai: deadsanta: tedthebellhopp: Satanic_Hamster: Leaks Fallout?

Bad?

You on crack, subby?  All of the Fallout expansions Bethesda has put out have been excellent.    I'm sure Leaks will be good too.

I do like the iterations of Fallout from Bethesda, but i'm looking forward to Wasteland 2 in a few months.

This. A million times this. I played the original on my apple 2+ and still have fond memories of yanking the power cord out of the wall to keep the game from wiping my characters after some ill-advised antics with RPGs. I wonder if they're going to have a hardcore mode this time around?

The "hardcore" mode on New Vegas was way too frustrating.


Those....  farking...  cazadores...

I've never hated playing a game that I loved so much.
 
2013-06-11 11:38:03 AM  

Linux_Yes: the CIA/NSA/FBI/etc are all owned by big business and the wealthy.  they don't like their cover blown.  and they use 'national security' and 'terrorism' as a blanket to cover up their crimes against Democracy and our fading republic.  they aren't protecting me against some underwear bomber.  they are protecting themselves and their Wealth/Property.


you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
-bob dylan


Both the CIA and the FBI used to be mixed up with the mob too; I don't know if that's still the case, because the mob isn't what it used to be.  But when your agency has a history of working with the Mafia to murder enemies, it establishes a precedent that's pretty hard to stop, because that kind of "cooperation" always corrupts.

One thing I have no doubt about, when you have access to inside information, you use it, especially if you're convinced that you can't get caught.
 
2013-06-11 11:44:03 AM  

NostroZ: Just so we're all clear on what the FOUNDING DOCUMENT of the COUNTRY that we live in STATES:  Essentially, a contract between the people and the government.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

The current program sweeps up ALL information communicated.

This is in completeopposition to the basic 4th amendment.

Let's call a spade a spade. This is a clear 4th amendment violation.
Seems like freedom / liberty were only values we held when we were safe from 'terror'.

/If they hate us for our freedoms... does this mean they no longer hate us, since we have no more freedoms?


The founding document also says habeas corpus can be suspended. And it has. And it will be again probably.
3 branches of government try to check each other. And when we are at war--and we certainly are  now--we have to have compromises.

It's amazing to me. People won't even pay higher taxes to fund two wars. They won't allow a draft so volunteers who signed up to kill OBL in Afghanistan won't end up serving multiple 15 month combat tours in Iraq. Now they don't want their public communication--that's what emails and everything else on the internet is--mined by their government to discover enemy threats against the country they live in.
 
2013-06-11 11:51:38 AM  

LasersHurt: Is it coincidence that the more outraged a person is, the fewer specifics they seem to know?


I'm sure if you ask them, they'll come up with lots of specifics.
 
2013-06-11 11:55:33 AM  

vygramul: LasersHurt: Is it coincidence that the more outraged a person is, the fewer specifics they seem to know?

I'm sure if you ask them, they'll come up with lots of specifics.


I've asked some. I surely cannot ask everyone, of course, so generalize with a grain of salt.
 
2013-06-11 11:56:15 AM  
the federal government is a dick.
 
2013-06-11 12:08:22 PM  

NostroZ: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

The current program sweeps up ALL information communicated.

This is in completeopposition to the basic 4th amendment.

Let's call a spade a spade. This is a clear 4th amendment violation.


If the Founding Fathers had understood that people have nothing to fear unless they've done something wrong then they wouldn't have included the 4th amendment.
 
2013-06-11 12:12:26 PM  

LasersHurt: vygramul: LasersHurt: Is it coincidence that the more outraged a person is, the fewer specifics they seem to know?

I'm sure if you ask them, they'll come up with lots of specifics.

I've asked some. I surely cannot ask everyone, of course, so generalize with a grain of salt.


I didn't say their specifics would be worth a grain of salt. :)
 
2013-06-11 12:31:16 PM  

UNC_Samurai: deadsanta: tedthebellhopp: Satanic_Hamster: Leaks Fallout?

Bad?

You on crack, subby?  All of the Fallout expansions Bethesda has put out have been excellent.    I'm sure Leaks will be good too.

I do like the iterations of Fallout from Bethesda, but i'm looking forward to Wasteland 2 in a few months.

This. A million times this. I played the original on my apple 2+ and still have fond memories of yanking the power cord out of the wall to keep the game from wiping my characters after some ill-advised antics with RPGs. I wonder if they're going to have a hardcore mode this time around?

The "hardcore" mode on New Vegas was way too frustrating.


It wasn't too bad except winning a big fight only to find out that Ed-E or Boone had bitten the dust.
 
2013-06-11 04:23:22 PM  

Towermonkey: tedthebellhopp: Satanic_Hamster: Leaks Fallout?

Bad?

You on crack, subby?  All of the Fallout expansions Bethesda has put out have been excellent.    I'm sure Leaks will be good too.

I do like the iterations of Fallout from Bethesda, but i'm looking forward to Wasteland 2 in a few months.

Hell yes, I am too. And Fallout 4, if it ever shows up. Even if it IS supposedly set in Baaahston.


Hmm I could go for that, wonder how far north they will go? I live in the middle of NH.
 
2013-06-11 04:37:51 PM  

tedthebellhopp: Hmm I could go for that, wonder how far north they will go? I live in the middle of NH.


I want Fallout 4:  Detroit.  Would be easy to produce, they could just use a recent map and background art of the current city.
 
2013-06-11 04:42:59 PM  
Dunno. Fallout 3 covered a huge part of the DC Metroplex, and New Vegas squeezed a huge part of Vegas proper, Henderson, the Hoover Dam... so who knows? I put in well over 500 hours between multiple characters and all 4 DLC for New Vegas, just trying different things.
 
2013-06-12 08:15:48 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: tedthebellhopp: Hmm I could go for that, wonder how far north they will go? I live in the middle of NH.

I want Fallout 4:  Detroit.  Would be easy to produce, they could just use a recent map and background art of the current city.


that area was sorta covered in Fallout: Tactics, but yea it wouldn't take much to update that for Fallout.
 
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