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(CBS Sports)   Tim Tebow to serve as backup for God   (cbssports.com) divider line 50
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2013-06-10 06:43:43 PM  
4 votes:
And over in Stanford,
ESPN staffers say,
Skip Bayless's boner
Grew 3 sizes that day!
2013-06-11 10:16:10 AM  
2 votes:

garron: Tebow haters really have no idea how irrational and bigoted they sound.  There is no sound reasoning in their arguments and no facts to back up their accusations of his incompetence
.
Here are the completion percentages and win/loss records for the first year of several "top" quarterbacks compared to Tebow:

Player                         Completion               W/L Record
John Elway                    47.5%                         4-6
Payton Manning             56.7%                         3-13
Troy Aikman                   52.9%                         0-11
Terry Bradshaw              38.1%                         3-5
Joe Namath                    48.2%                         3-5-1
Tim Tebow                      46.5%                         7-4

Tebow earned the right and has demonstrated the ability to excel at the NFL level as much as any of these guys did in their first year.  The attacks on this kid are irrational and based simply on hatred and bigotry.


So you're using Tebow's second year stats and comparing them to "top" (sic) quarterbacks' rookie years?

Seems legit.
2013-06-10 08:46:10 PM  
2 votes:
I am interested in seeing what they signed him for.
Is he going to compete for the backup spot? Either actual competition, or just to give Mallett something to work against.
Are the pats looking to downgrade their backup and try to deal Mallett somewhere?
Does Belichek intend to try and change his position?

It isn't like they are really risking anything here. And unlike the Jets, they have a real quarterback to keep things from getting out of hand with him sitting on the bench. And they are certainly used to being at the centre of the media spotlight. So as much as it is an annoying move, I don't see any real downside for the Pats.
2013-06-10 07:00:42 PM  
2 votes:
Do you get the feeling the only reason Hoodie did this, is so he can get Tebow a TD when the Pats play the Jets, and Rex will have to answer questions from the NY media about it for a week?
2013-06-10 06:51:52 PM  
2 votes:
Belicheck moves him to defense for a season as a way to make him really understand defenses and how to read them.
2013-06-10 06:41:19 PM  
2 votes:

Captain Steroid: Dinobot: That said, it would be loltastic if somehow Brady gets injured in the playoffs and Tim Tebow, as a backup, defeats the Denver Ponies.

[i1182.photobucket.com image 500x281]


As much as I love my Denver Ponies, I'd not mind John Elway eating some humble pie courtesy of a Tim Tebow-led Patriots, just for shiats and giggles.
2013-06-10 06:36:47 PM  
2 votes:
Belichick Bledsoe'd Brady.
i.imgur.com

/didn't think I'd get to use this one again so soon.
2013-06-10 06:34:55 PM  
2 votes:

CavalierEternal: If Tom Brady is God, then what does that make Eli Manning?


Christopher Hitchens?
2013-06-10 06:33:39 PM  
2 votes:

CavalierEternal: If Tom Brady is God, then what does that make Eli Manning?


satan
2013-06-10 06:33:04 PM  
2 votes:
If anyone starts a Tebow chant at Gillette, I hope they get cock slapped by the people next to them.
2013-06-10 06:22:35 PM  
2 votes:
really? this one?
2013-06-11 10:57:29 AM  
1 votes:
Dinobot:

One of my big gripes against the Tebow criticism is that people were calling him a bust in 2011, where even though he played several games as a starter, he ended up starting less games than Christian Ponder... in fact. Christian Ponder, in just that season alone, started more games than Tebow has in 3 years in the NFL.

I always said that had the Jets allowed him to start once it was obvious the season was not salvageable and Mark Sanchez was not gonna get any better, it would have made it easier to judge Tebow fairly... If he would win games for the Jets, then good, if he would lose them, then good as well. At least you would have a better sampling size to judge him properly, otherwise it will be hard to shake the image there was something special going on for Tebow in 2011, specially with that playoff win against the Steelers.

At this point, Tebow has as many playoff wins as Romo, and is the last Broncos QB with a playoff win since Jake Plummer.

Just saying...


1.  Why is it hard to shake the image from the win over the Steelers but easy to shake the image from the atrocious playing against the Patriots the week after or the three games before the Steelers for that matter?

2. What about judging Greg McElroy fairly?
2013-06-11 10:43:57 AM  
1 votes:

Wadded Beef: So you're using Tebow's second year stats and comparing them to "top" (sic) quarterbacks' rookie years?

Seems legit.


Also, cherry picking one individual stat and W-L hardly seems fair.  Football isn't suited to limited sabermetric analysis.  Completion percentage, while important, doesn't correlate well enough with W-L to mean anything.  Especially since a completion can be a 15 yard laser beam splitting two defenders or it could be hitting a WR running a 3 yard hook.

The difference between Tebow and "top" quarterbacks is that when you watch them play, you can see the skill set of a quarterback in action.  When you watch Tebow play you ask yourself why you're watching a fullback try to pass when he clearly isn't familiar with the concept of even throwing a spiral.
2013-06-11 09:15:26 AM  
1 votes:

garron: Tebow haters really have no idea how irrational and bigoted they sound.  There is no sound reasoning in their arguments and no facts to back up their accusations of his incompetence
.
Here are the completion percentages and win/loss records for the first year of several "top" quarterbacks compared to Tebow:

Player                         Completion               W/L Record
John Elway                    47.5%                         4-6
Payton Manning             56.7%                         3-13
Troy Aikman                   52.9%                         0-11
Terry Bradshaw              38.1%                         3-5
Joe Namath                    48.2%                         3-5-1
Tim Tebow                      46.5%                         7-4

Tebow earned the right and has demonstrated the ability to excel at the NFL level as much as any of these guys did in their first year.  The attacks on this kid are irrational and based simply on hatred and bigotry.


Tebow Hater/Lover aside...I am pretty sure the coaches/GM's in the NFL value winning above everything else, and if a guy can get it done on the field they will give them every chance.

Tebow has obviously not given his coaches/GM's any signs that he is capable of running a routinely successful NFL offense.  I don't know if it is his throwing technique which he catches so much flak for (being way too slow for quick NFL DB's), his prediliction for dancing outside the pocket, or what, but something is causing his coaches some real heartburn when it comes time to put him in the game.

To me, he seems like a good leader and is willing to learn/adapt (even if not very successful at it to-date), and when given a shot with a tailer-made offense, he kept winning in Denver...so it seems like someone should take a shot on him...and yet, he is like the friggin plague to coaches/GM's.

I didn't appreciate his prostheletizing commercial during the super bowl when he was still just another college QB (and I'm not pissy about it, he had every right, just personally I find TV commercials a horrible/shallow place to start an argument on religion/morality) ...but everything I have seen in the media since then just seems like what 99% of NFL players say...Thanks God and Jesus and wants to win and cares about teammates and all that.  I think it is fairly well known that most NFL fans really don't care one way or another about the guy at this point, and that most people are MUCH more annoyed with how sports media in general blows everything about him out of proportion.  I mean...who was the last 3rd string QB signed this off season before Tebow, why wasn't that breaking news?

And yet here I am furthering the conversation...I should learn my lesson
2013-06-11 08:39:33 AM  
1 votes:

eudemonist: Add into that his usefulness on the practice squad preparing the starters for read-options, and it starts to look like a pretty smart move


I think this very possibly was Belicheck's primary motivation for teh signing.  Realistically he is a 3rd string "better than putting Gronk at QB" type of QB, unlikely to see any meaningful playing time.

BUT, there were multiple teams making waves in the NFL last year with read-option schemes, and Belicheck has a reputation for being prepared.  Tebow probably has approximately the right size/speed to be a "practice Kaepernick".

I'd say having a trick play or two using Tebow to unsettle the defense is a secondary consideration, and his value as a long-term contributer is expected to be basically zero.

Just my 2 cents.
2013-06-11 07:16:39 AM  
1 votes:
What's going to be great is now ever single time the Patriots win and the Jets lose, ESPN will ask "Why couldn't the Jets win with Tebow as a back-up, while the Pats can?". I give it to mid-season before Skip Bayless is calling for Rex Ryan to be canned for letting Tebow 'slip through his fingers'.
2013-06-11 02:51:12 AM  
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
2013-06-11 02:32:09 AM  
1 votes:

poughdrew: Adolf Oliver Nipples: ... Random Steelers' fan word salad...

The two possible outcomes you are looking for:

1) Tebow barely plays or doesn't play at all, and they trade him to some team for a 6th round pick, at which point the Pats continue to win the AFC East year after year.

2) Tebow is put in a useful role and the Pats continue to win the AFC East year after year.


Then the Ravens kick their ass in the playoffs. Again.
2013-06-11 01:48:56 AM  
1 votes:

What_Would_Jimi_Do: tebow will slot in as TE in place of gronk. also possibly FB. which no teams tried him at


He's repeatedly said he won't play anything but QB.  Maybe it finally got through that he's not going to be an NFL QB.
2013-06-11 12:35:28 AM  
1 votes:

chewielouie: No. I doubt Belichick is bringing him in to ride the bench. I'd wager he wants to see if he can effectively use Tebow, when the Jets couldn't. This could be fun to watch.


Exactly.  This is really the only NFL team that makes any sense to sign him.  Nobody will fark with Hoody on this, and if they do, Hoody don't give a fark.  He's got Brady, and there's no farking reason to play Tebow if Hoody doesn't want to play Tebow.

From Brady's point of view, eventually he might become good enough to be #2, but he'll never take over for Brady unless Brady is retired or injured.  If he can contribute in a way that Brady stops losing Super Bowls I doubt he'll mind giving up a few snaps.  He seems more of a "do what we need to win" rather than "stroke my own ego" type QB.  (His wife is a different story, but maybe she can make Tebow a man if Gronk can't.)

No matter what, Hoody's bringing the lulz, and I love it.  It also makes the Chargers decision to media blackout for Te'o untili mini/training camp seem even smarter since Tebow will now be ESPN's jizzrag #1.
2013-06-10 11:28:03 PM  
1 votes:
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2013-06-10 10:23:51 PM  
1 votes:

Tumunga: AdamK: ariseatex: Klippoklondike: Anyway, to the point.  Putting Tebow in Boston was the only way for him to get MORE press coverage.  It's just not gonna stop.  It's like the terminator of news/not news.  No matter what you do, it will keep coming.

I'm afraid that's what he and his agent were thinking.  Of course the press is a fickle mistress.

Best case scenario for him, of course, is that spending time with Brady will teach him how to be a better QB, both on the field and on the sideline.  No matter what I think of the Patriots, I can't deny Brady's skill as a team leader.  Hopefully Tebow learns leading means more than "just do what I say and let me run the ball!"

sure, the patriots as a franchise have never been afraid of players - either when using them or letting them go, either you play as a team member or go home

sometimes that gets them in trouble (like letting go of wes welker) but other times they did it perfectly (like starting Brady or letting go of Moss)

i'm not sure how much the media control helps keep players focused, it's probably just a cog in the system, but if Ochocinco could be reigned in then so could Tebow

Ok, I get the hate on Fark, but wtf did Tebow do that was so bad he needs to be reigned in?


nothing personal, Tebow and the media just need to go on a sabbatical for a year while the dude develops into a more productive player
2013-06-10 10:07:14 PM  
1 votes:
Is everyone overlooking the fact that Tebow - Hernandez only scored a gajillion TD's in Florida?   Hoodie isn't stupid.   Hell, if he's actually half as smart as everyone claims he is/isn't, he'll keep him at QB.   Why *totally* fark with his development and stick him in a new position?

Sure, he might be able to pull off TE or FB, I *might* be able to kick a 25 yard FG too.  Doubt it'll happen in the game situation.
2013-06-10 08:52:49 PM  
1 votes:

CavalierEternal: If Tom Brady is God, then what does that make Eli Manning?


Peyton's little brother
2013-06-10 08:51:01 PM  
1 votes:
Tebow to New England? That's hilarious. You know what I want to see? I want to see Tom Brady get absolutely nuked, because then there are two possible outcomes:

1) Tebow has an epic season and in doing so completely destroys the legend of Tom Brady. Of course, that comes with a price since it enhances the legend of the Hoodie-Wearing Cheater (and how many titles has he won since that went down, anyway?), and who wants that?

2) Tebow is everything that people say he is and drags the Patsies down, down, down.

Either way we win, and since I kinda like Tebow against my better judgment I'll hope for the first outcome, but let's be honest, isn't the second one more likely?

But for any of this to happen it requires some serious Roughing-The-Brady, a call that comes when anyone gets within 5 yards of him and results in fines and suspensions, so we need someone to take one for the rest of us. Who will The Father send on behalf of his only begotten Son?
2013-06-10 08:36:54 PM  
1 votes:
This is brutal.  Things were finally calming down, it looked like the worst was behind us.  Now we have at least another 10 months of every other story in sports news being Tebow related.
2013-06-10 08:26:30 PM  
1 votes:

jayhawk88: Do you get the feeling the only reason Hoodie did this, is so he can get Tebow a TD when the Pats play the Jets, and Rex will have to answer questions from the NY media about it for a week?


Sept. 12 (NFL Network) and Oct. 20. Too bad the games don't come later in the season.
2013-06-10 07:53:50 PM  
1 votes:

traxan: My old man is an ex-football player, not pro or anything, but he thinks Tebow would be better off as a fullback than QB. What do some of you think?


He'd be a splendid FB, he's built like a bull, strong, and has NO problem sticking his nose into a pile and initiating contact. Even more as a goof-play, FB/handoff/pass option kind of thing, really freeze the LBs.

... or maybe even TE. Not sure how well he can catch, but if he allies himself to blocking, he'd be swell on the end of a line.
2013-06-10 07:52:17 PM  
1 votes:
Where's Bernard Pollard when you need him?
2013-06-10 07:50:19 PM  
1 votes:
My old man is an ex-football player, not pro or anything, but he thinks Tebow would be better off as a fullback than QB. What do some of you think?
2013-06-10 07:40:55 PM  
1 votes:
New England:  The land just perfect for any kind of religious outcast
2013-06-10 07:22:53 PM  
1 votes:
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha !
2013-06-10 07:17:49 PM  
1 votes:
Tim Tebow = the next Matt Cassel?

/you gotta aim high, right?
2013-06-10 06:48:01 PM  
1 votes:

Bunny Deville: mjohnson71: I still can't figure out why the Jacksonville didn't take a run at Tebow. Just sign him and they could fill every single last seat in EverBank Field. We're talking World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party type attendance for every Jaguars game.

"Not even if he is released"


Smart on his part.  If he was in Jacksonville, it wouldn't matter how bad he was, fans would blame the owner and everyone else but Teebus.  New England would at least give him the tough love he needs to be made a better player.
2013-06-10 06:47:20 PM  
1 votes:
"Darth Hoodie let Welker go, but bought in Tebow?!?!?"

imageshack.us
2013-06-10 06:41:28 PM  
1 votes:

Dougie AXP: Triumph: How soon 'til I can buy a jersey for my Pats fan friend?

Probably plastered all over NFLShop.com right now.


Ryan Mallet already has number 15, what is Tebow going to do?
2013-06-10 06:40:09 PM  
1 votes:

mjohnson71: I still can't figure out why the Jacksonville didn't take a run at Tebow. Just sign him and they could fill every single last seat in EverBank Field. We're talking World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party type attendance for every Jaguars game.


Because that new owner with the wicked stash is letting his coaches and GM makes the calls. He apparently has no interest in being Jerry Jones
2013-06-10 06:39:52 PM  
1 votes:
More cameras on the field for some last-minute pregame adjustments
2013-06-10 06:35:27 PM  
1 votes:
Also:

♫ Our Tom is an awesome Tom  ♫
2013-06-10 06:35:17 PM  
1 votes:

Klippoklondike: Anyway, to the point.  Putting Tebow in Boston was the only way for him to get MORE press coverage.  It's just not gonna stop.  It's like the terminator of news/not news.  No matter what you do, it will keep coming.


I'm afraid that's what he and his agent were thinking.  Of course the press is a fickle mistress.

Best case scenario for him, of course, is that spending time with Brady will teach him how to be a better QB, both on the field and on the sideline.  No matter what I think of the Patriots, I can't deny Brady's skill as a team leader.  Hopefully Tebow learns leading means more than "just do what I say and let me run the ball!"
2013-06-10 06:35:02 PM  
1 votes:
That said, it would be loltastic if somehow Brady gets injured in the playoffs and Tim Tebow, as a backup, defeats the Denver Ponies.
2013-06-10 06:34:43 PM  
1 votes:
I guess the only advantage the Pats have with this move is that this is one of the few situations Tebow could go to where there's no real chance of a QB controversy. If the distractions aren't an issue, no reason Tebow can't contribute in spot roles on special teams.
2013-06-10 06:34:40 PM  
1 votes:

CavalierEternal: If Tom Brady is God, then what does that make Eli Manning?


Overrated.
2013-06-10 06:34:01 PM  
1 votes:
Well, that was close

/I was afraid we'd have to go an entire season without hearing about that pious waste of money
2013-06-10 06:33:26 PM  
1 votes:

Dougie AXP: So

Brady = Jesus?
Belichick = The Father
Tebow = The Holy Ghost?


If that means he's not going to be seen on the field, then I'm for it.
2013-06-10 06:32:42 PM  
1 votes:
constitutionclub.files.wordpress.com
2013-06-10 06:32:15 PM  
1 votes:
So, the money they used to spend on video equipment goes to trolling the rest of the NFL now.
2013-06-10 06:31:17 PM  
1 votes:

Theaetetus: ariseatex: Captain Steroid: CavalierEternal: Di Atribe: the biggest redneck here: bongmiester: really? this one?

[bow]
Thank you, thank you!

/what, you thought "Tebow Tebow Tebow Tebow Tebow" was better?


There were dozens of them.  This one isn't terrible, but it's the low hanging fruit.

Anyway, to the point.  Putting Tebow in Boston was the only way for him to get MORE press coverage.  It's just not gonna stop.  It's like the terminator of news/not news.  No matter what you do, it will keep coming.
2013-06-10 06:30:11 PM  
1 votes:
Well done Subby.

/I hate this decision, I hate this move
//Are the Pats turning into the Jest?
2013-06-10 06:27:17 PM  
1 votes:

Captain Steroid: CavalierEternal: Di Atribe: the biggest redneck here: bongmiester: really? this one?

 
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