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2013-06-10 06:22:35 PM  
really? this one?
 
2013-06-10 06:24:09 PM  
Pic from inside ESPN's offices

i1016.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-10 06:24:10 PM  

bongmiester: really? this one?

 
2013-06-10 06:24:39 PM  

the biggest redneck here: bongmiester: really? this one?

 
2013-06-10 06:25:27 PM  

Di Atribe: the biggest redneck here: bongmiester: really? this one?

 
2013-06-10 06:26:04 PM  

CavalierEternal: Di Atribe: the biggest redneck here: bongmiester: really? this one?

 
2013-06-10 06:27:17 PM  

Captain Steroid: CavalierEternal: Di Atribe: the biggest redneck here: bongmiester: really? this one?

 
2013-06-10 06:27:42 PM  

ariseatex: Captain Steroid: CavalierEternal: Di Atribe: the biggest redneck here: bongmiester: really? this one?

 
2013-06-10 06:28:13 PM  

ariseatex: Captain Steroid: CavalierEternal: Di Atribe: the biggest redneck here: bongmiester: really? this one?


[bow]
Thank you, thank you!

/what, you thought "Tebow Tebow Tebow Tebow Tebow" was better?
 
2013-06-10 06:29:00 PM  

The Bestest: ariseatex: Captain Steroid: CavalierEternal: Di Atribe: the biggest redneck here: bongmiester: really? this one?

 
2013-06-10 06:29:22 PM  

Klippoklondike: The Bestest: ariseatex: Captain Steroid: CavalierEternal: Di Atribe: the biggest redneck here: bongmiester: really? this one?

 
2013-06-10 06:29:45 PM  

Dinobot: Klippoklondike: The Bestest: ariseatex: Captain Steroid: CavalierEternal: Di Atribe: the biggest redneck here: bongmiester: really? this one?

 
2013-06-10 06:30:11 PM  
Well done Subby.

/I hate this decision, I hate this move
//Are the Pats turning into the Jest?
 
2013-06-10 06:30:44 PM  

Treygreen13: Dinobot: Klippoklondike: The Bestest: ariseatex: Captain Steroid: CavalierEternal: Di Atribe: the biggest redneck here: bongmiester: really? this one?

 
2013-06-10 06:30:45 PM  

Theaetetus: ariseatex: Captain Steroid: CavalierEternal: Di Atribe: the biggest redneck here: bongmiester: really? this one?

[bow]
Thank you, thank you!

/what, you thought "Tebow Tebow Tebow Tebow Tebow" was better?


I guess no one got my Provincetown joke. :/
 
2013-06-10 06:30:58 PM  

Treygreen13: Dinobot: Klippoklondike: The Bestest: ariseatex: Captain Steroid: CavalierEternal: Di Atribe: the biggest redneck here: bongmiester: really? this one?

 
2013-06-10 06:31:01 PM  

Treygreen13: Dinobot: Klippoklondike: The Bestest: ariseatex: Captain Steroid: CavalierEternal: Di Atribe: the biggest redneck here: bongmiester: really? this one?


And furthermore
 
2013-06-10 06:31:17 PM  

Theaetetus: ariseatex: Captain Steroid: CavalierEternal: Di Atribe: the biggest redneck here: bongmiester: really? this one?

[bow]
Thank you, thank you!

/what, you thought "Tebow Tebow Tebow Tebow Tebow" was better?


There were dozens of them.  This one isn't terrible, but it's the low hanging fruit.

Anyway, to the point.  Putting Tebow in Boston was the only way for him to get MORE press coverage.  It's just not gonna stop.  It's like the terminator of news/not news.  No matter what you do, it will keep coming.
 
2013-06-10 06:31:49 PM  

fatalvenom: I hate this decision, I hate this move

 
2013-06-10 06:32:00 PM  
As a Patriots fan that submitted a different headline, I approve of this headline.
 
2013-06-10 06:32:04 PM  

Primitive Screwhead: Pic from inside ESPN's offices

[i1016.photobucket.com image 420x321]


Is ESPN still on the air after finding out the Patriots signed Tebow? I'm surprised Bristol isn't a giant crater from the collective ESPN orgasm over Touchdown Jesus Tim getting signed to the Pats.
 
2013-06-10 06:32:14 PM  

Klippoklondike: This one isn't terrible, but it's the low hanging fruit.


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-06-10 06:32:15 PM  
So, the money they used to spend on video equipment goes to trolling the rest of the NFL now.
 
2013-06-10 06:32:17 PM  
So

Brady = Jesus?
Belichick = The Father
Tebow = The Holy Ghost?
 
2013-06-10 06:32:30 PM  

fatalvenom: Well done Subby.

/I hate this decision, I hate this move
//Are the Pats turning into the Jest?


This feels like a move that the Pats could make work...which will make the Jest look even worse.
 
2013-06-10 06:32:42 PM  
constitutionclub.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-06-10 06:33:02 PM  
I liked the one about person 1 and person 2.
 
2013-06-10 06:33:04 PM  
If anyone starts a Tebow chant at Gillette, I hope they get cock slapped by the people next to them.
 
2013-06-10 06:33:16 PM  
If Tom Brady is God, then what does that make Eli Manning?
 
2013-06-10 06:33:26 PM  

Dougie AXP: So

Brady = Jesus?
Belichick = The Father
Tebow = The Holy Ghost?


If that means he's not going to be seen on the field, then I'm for it.
 
2013-06-10 06:33:39 PM  

CavalierEternal: If Tom Brady is God, then what does that make Eli Manning?


satan
 
2013-06-10 06:33:54 PM  
well, it's not the first time the patriots picked up somebody the jets dropped
 
2013-06-10 06:34:01 PM  
Well, that was close

/I was afraid we'd have to go an entire season without hearing about that pious waste of money
 
2013-06-10 06:34:40 PM  

CavalierEternal: If Tom Brady is God, then what does that make Eli Manning?


Overrated.
 
2013-06-10 06:34:43 PM  
I guess the only advantage the Pats have with this move is that this is one of the few situations Tebow could go to where there's no real chance of a QB controversy. If the distractions aren't an issue, no reason Tebow can't contribute in spot roles on special teams.
 
2013-06-10 06:34:55 PM  

CavalierEternal: If Tom Brady is God, then what does that make Eli Manning?


Christopher Hitchens?
 
2013-06-10 06:35:02 PM  

Theaetetus: Dougie AXP: So

Brady = Jesus?
Belichick = The Father
Tebow = The Holy Ghost?

If that means he's not going to be seen on the field, then I'm for it.


Well I mean, Belichick is defnitely the Father.
Tebow sure as shiat ain't Hay-zeus in this scenario. That only leaves him as the Holy Ghost with Brady definitely being Hay-zeus
 
2013-06-10 06:35:02 PM  
That said, it would be loltastic if somehow Brady gets injured in the playoffs and Tim Tebow, as a backup, defeats the Denver Ponies.
 
2013-06-10 06:35:17 PM  

Klippoklondike: Anyway, to the point.  Putting Tebow in Boston was the only way for him to get MORE press coverage.  It's just not gonna stop.  It's like the terminator of news/not news.  No matter what you do, it will keep coming.


I'm afraid that's what he and his agent were thinking.  Of course the press is a fickle mistress.

Best case scenario for him, of course, is that spending time with Brady will teach him how to be a better QB, both on the field and on the sideline.  No matter what I think of the Patriots, I can't deny Brady's skill as a team leader.  Hopefully Tebow learns leading means more than "just do what I say and let me run the ball!"
 
2013-06-10 06:35:27 PM  
Also:

♫ Our Tom is an awesome Tom  ♫
 
2013-06-10 06:35:38 PM  
Will they make it to the playoffs?

Will they be gunning for Tebow and injure him?

It's going to be a great season!!!
 
2013-06-10 06:35:51 PM  
I'm picturing Belichick telling Brady about the move.

"Tom, you're going to be competing for your job again, as usual. We're bringing in Tebow."

*evil grin*
 
2013-06-10 06:35:52 PM  
Aw.  Oh well, I've had some greens.   This was probably as good as any of the others.
 
2013-06-10 06:36:15 PM  

Supes: I guess the only advantage the Pats have with this move is that this is one of the few situations Tebow could go to where there's no real chance of a QB controversy. If the distractions aren't an issue, no reason Tebow can't contribute in spot roles on special teams.


You could also see him as an option-threat TE, standing in until Gronkenstein has all his parts replaced.
 
2013-06-10 06:36:47 PM  
Belichick Bledsoe'd Brady.
i.imgur.com

/didn't think I'd get to use this one again so soon.
 
2013-06-10 06:37:04 PM  
www.acbeddoe.com
 
2013-06-10 06:37:17 PM  
How soon 'til I can buy a jersey for my Pats fan friend?
 
2013-06-10 06:37:32 PM  

CavalierEternal: If Tom Brady is God, then what does that make Eli Manning?


i27.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-10 06:37:35 PM  

Bunny Deville: I liked the one about person 1 and person 2.


Me too.  Just a little clunky for a headline is all.
 
2013-06-10 06:37:46 PM  

Triumph: How soon 'til I can buy a jersey for my Pats fan friend?


Probably plastered all over NFLShop.com right now.
 
2013-06-10 06:37:59 PM  

Dinobot: That said, it would be loltastic if somehow Brady gets injured in the playoffs and Tim Tebow, as a backup, defeats the Denver Ponies.


i1182.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-10 06:38:53 PM  
I still can't figure out why the Jacksonville didn't take a run at Tebow. Just sign him and they could fill every single last seat in EverBank Field. We're talking World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party type attendance for every Jaguars game.
 
2013-06-10 06:39:33 PM  
t1.gstatic.com
 
2013-06-10 06:39:51 PM  

Dougie AXP: Triumph: How soon 'til I can buy a jersey for my Pats fan friend?

Probably plastered all over NFLShop.com right now.


lp.imageg.net
 
2013-06-10 06:39:52 PM  
More cameras on the field for some last-minute pregame adjustments
 
2013-06-10 06:39:57 PM  

Di Atribe: CavalierEternal: If Tom Brady is God, then what does that make Eli Manning?

[i27.photobucket.com image 518x800]


Obviously... The Great Gazoo


encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2013-06-10 06:40:02 PM  
Taking bets now, Tebow finishes the season as a TE, after Gronk has his 47th surgery on his forearm.
 
2013-06-10 06:40:09 PM  

mjohnson71: I still can't figure out why the Jacksonville didn't take a run at Tebow. Just sign him and they could fill every single last seat in EverBank Field. We're talking World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party type attendance for every Jaguars game.


Because that new owner with the wicked stash is letting his coaches and GM makes the calls. He apparently has no interest in being Jerry Jones
 
2013-06-10 06:40:32 PM  

CavalierEternal: If Tom Brady is God, then what does that make Eli Manning?


Reason. It always beats that god guys book at least
 
2013-06-10 06:40:33 PM  

Triumph: How soon 'til I can buy a jersey for my Pats fan friend?


I don't know, but apparently FatHead is already sending out Tebow fatheads to Patriots fans.
 
2013-06-10 06:40:34 PM  
Gronk 2 - Biblical Boogaloo
 
2013-06-10 06:40:44 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-10 06:41:19 PM  

Captain Steroid: Dinobot: That said, it would be loltastic if somehow Brady gets injured in the playoffs and Tim Tebow, as a backup, defeats the Denver Ponies.

[i1182.photobucket.com image 500x281]


As much as I love my Denver Ponies, I'd not mind John Elway eating some humble pie courtesy of a Tim Tebow-led Patriots, just for shiats and giggles.
 
2013-06-10 06:41:28 PM  

Dougie AXP: Triumph: How soon 'til I can buy a jersey for my Pats fan friend?

Probably plastered all over NFLShop.com right now.


Ryan Mallet already has number 15, what is Tebow going to do?
 
2013-06-10 06:41:58 PM  
thesuiteworld.com
 
2013-06-10 06:42:11 PM  

Supes: Dougie AXP: Triumph: How soon 'til I can buy a jersey for my Pats fan friend?

Probably plastered all over NFLShop.com right now.

[lp.imageg.net image 500x500]


Mallett is already 15 on the Pats.  Tebow will have to get a new number.
 
2013-06-10 06:42:24 PM  

soopey: Dougie AXP: Triumph: How soon 'til I can buy a jersey for my Pats fan friend?

Probably plastered all over NFLShop.com right now.

Ryan Mallet already has number 15, what is Tebow going to do?


Pray that Ryan Mallet gets crushed by God's finger.
 
2013-06-10 06:42:26 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: CavalierEternal: If Tom Brady is God, then what does that make Eli Manning?

Overrated.


Well played
 
2013-06-10 06:42:47 PM  

Supes: I guess the only advantage the Pats have with this move is that this is one of the few situations Tebow could go to where there's no real chance of a QB controversy. If the distractions aren't an issue, no reason Tebow can't contribute in spot roles on special teams.


I was thinking the same thing. It's about the only place he won't cause a controversy.
 
2013-06-10 06:43:20 PM  

soopey: Dougie AXP: Triumph: How soon 'til I can buy a jersey for my Pats fan friend?

Probably plastered all over NFLShop.com right now.

Ryan Mallet already has number 15, what is Tebow going to do?


Pay him/compensate him in some manner for the number. Fairly common etiquette. This, of course, assumes that Mallet has any interest in giving up his number.
 
2013-06-10 06:43:43 PM  
And over in Stanford,
ESPN staffers say,
Skip Bayless's boner
Grew 3 sizes that day!
 
2013-06-10 06:45:14 PM  

mjohnson71: I still can't figure out why the Jacksonville didn't take a run at Tebow. Just sign him and they could fill every single last seat in EverBank Field. We're talking World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party type attendance for every Jaguars game.


"Not even if he is released"
 
2013-06-10 06:45:33 PM  

Dougie AXP: soopey: Dougie AXP: Triumph: How soon 'til I can buy a jersey for my Pats fan friend?

Probably plastered all over NFLShop.com right now.

Ryan Mallet already has number 15, what is Tebow going to do?

Pay him/compensate him in some manner for the number. Fairly common etiquette. This, of course, assumes that Mallet has any interest in giving up his number.


They need to make a decision QUICK!
 
2013-06-10 06:45:42 PM  

Dougie AXP: soopey: Dougie AXP: Triumph: How soon 'til I can buy a jersey for my Pats fan friend?

Probably plastered all over NFLShop.com right now.

Ryan Mallet already has number 15, what is Tebow going to do?

Pay him/compensate him in some manner for the number. Fairly common etiquette. This, of course, assumes that Mallet has any interest in giving up his number.


Or they might release Mallet.

/Might.  Probably not.
 
2013-06-10 06:47:20 PM  
"Darth Hoodie let Welker go, but bought in Tebow?!?!?"

imageshack.us
 
2013-06-10 06:47:36 PM  
The move does make some sense.  The Patriots only have 2 QBs on the roster (Brady and Mallet) and regardless of your feelings about him as a player, he has starting experience and playoff experience.  If something horrible happens, he could hold down the fort and help the team tread water.  Add to it if the lack of interest has made him open to adjusting his primary position a bit, he could serve in a RB/FB capacity.  We know the Patriots spread the ball around and haven't had a primary RB in forever so that could get him some touches.  I don't see this as being bad and if things don't work out in training canp they can always cut him.
 
2013-06-10 06:47:47 PM  

Third Day Mark: Dougie AXP: soopey: Dougie AXP: Triumph: How soon 'til I can buy a jersey for my Pats fan friend?

Probably plastered all over NFLShop.com right now.

Ryan Mallet already has number 15, what is Tebow going to do?

Pay him/compensate him in some manner for the number. Fairly common etiquette. This, of course, assumes that Mallet has any interest in giving up his number.

Or they might release Mallet.

/Might.  Probably not.


they'll trade him to some idiotic chumpstain franchise for a fortune of draft picks, just like they always do.
 
2013-06-10 06:47:57 PM  
i309.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-10 06:48:01 PM  

Bunny Deville: mjohnson71: I still can't figure out why the Jacksonville didn't take a run at Tebow. Just sign him and they could fill every single last seat in EverBank Field. We're talking World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party type attendance for every Jaguars game.

"Not even if he is released"


Smart on his part.  If he was in Jacksonville, it wouldn't matter how bad he was, fans would blame the owner and everyone else but Teebus.  New England would at least give him the tough love he needs to be made a better player.
 
2013-06-10 06:48:08 PM  

Theaetetus: ariseatex: Captain Steroid: CavalierEternal: Di Atribe: the biggest redneck here: bongmiester: really? this one?

[bow]
Thank you, thank you!

/what, you thought "Tebow Tebow Tebow Tebow Tebow" was better?


To be fair, I wrote that one watching ESPN and that was all I was hearing that the time.
 
2013-06-10 06:48:40 PM  
Concussion city if he manages to catch a ball.
 
2013-06-10 06:50:55 PM  
"BREAKING: Patriots sign new Long Snapper."

/Better than mine
//Tebow Skywalker
 
2013-06-10 06:51:39 PM  
Sorry, that's from The Onion.
 
2013-06-10 06:51:46 PM  

ariseatex: Bunny Deville: mjohnson71: I still can't figure out why the Jacksonville didn't take a run at Tebow. Just sign him and they could fill every single last seat in EverBank Field. We're talking World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party type attendance for every Jaguars game.

"Not even if he is released"

Smart on his part.  If he was in Jacksonville, it wouldn't matter how bad he was, fans would blame the owner and everyone else but Teebus.  New England would at least give him the tough love he needs to be made a better player.


The head coach and GM don't want to deal with the circus that would happen if he came to town. For every homer that filled a seat because of him, two would stay away.
 
2013-06-10 06:51:52 PM  
Belicheck moves him to defense for a season as a way to make him really understand defenses and how to read them.
 
2013-06-10 06:52:01 PM  

fatalvenom: Well done Subby.

/I hate this decision, I hate this move
//Are the Pats turning into the Jest?


As a Bills fan, my response is: I hope so.

/we'll still suck in the basement, somehow
 
2013-06-10 06:52:36 PM  

ariseatex: Klippoklondike: Anyway, to the point.  Putting Tebow in Boston was the only way for him to get MORE press coverage.  It's just not gonna stop.  It's like the terminator of news/not news.  No matter what you do, it will keep coming.

I'm afraid that's what he and his agent were thinking.  Of course the press is a fickle mistress.

Best case scenario for him, of course, is that spending time with Brady will teach him how to be a better QB, both on the field and on the sideline.  No matter what I think of the Patriots, I can't deny Brady's skill as a team leader.  Hopefully Tebow learns leading means more than "just do what I say and let me run the ball!"


sure, the patriots as a franchise have never been afraid of players - either when using them or letting them go, either you play as a team member or go home

sometimes that gets them in trouble (like letting go of wes welker) but other times they did it perfectly (like starting Brady or letting go of Moss)

i'm not sure how much the media control helps keep players focused, it's probably just a cog in the system, but if Ochocinco could be reigned in then so could Tebow
 
2013-06-10 06:53:01 PM  
In other news, jizz moppers from all over the country are being dispatched to Bristol, CT in much the same fashion as firefighters that are called in during a disaster.
 
2013-06-10 06:53:20 PM  

Bunny Deville: Treygreen13: Dinobot: Klippoklondike: The Bestest: ariseatex: Captain Steroid: CavalierEternal: Di Atribe: the biggest redneck here: bongmiester: really? this one?


PS:  Too soon. Too similar. Too bad.
 
2013-06-10 06:55:56 PM  
The really? this one? crowd: How's that $5 a month working out?

As for Teebus, I'm pretty sure he'll be playing WR. Lord knows he's gonna spend all season catching Brady's balls.
 
2013-06-10 06:56:48 PM  

Jodeo: PS:  Too soon. Too similar. Too bad.


Wait, both Peyton AND Brady are God?  Now I'm REALLY confused.
 
2013-06-10 07:00:04 PM  

Paka Ono: Taking bets now, Tebow finishes the season as a TE, after Gronk has his 47th surgery on his forearm.


They could also rotate him in as one of their many running backs.  Also Tebow does play special teams
 
2013-06-10 07:00:10 PM  
Some times he looks...

a.espncdn.com

cloudchief.tv

cdn.bleacherreport.net

...almost human!
 
2013-06-10 07:00:42 PM  
Do you get the feeling the only reason Hoodie did this, is so he can get Tebow a TD when the Pats play the Jets, and Rex will have to answer questions from the NY media about it for a week?
 
2013-06-10 07:01:53 PM  
So now Rob Gronkowski is going to have to put up or shut up. Link Or is that put out or shut up? Maybe put out or get out?
 
2013-06-10 07:02:04 PM  

jayhawk88: Do you get the feeling the only reason Hoodie did this, is so he can get Tebow a TD when the Pats play the Jets, and Rex will have to answer questions from the NY media about it for a week?


That would be worth it.
 
2013-06-10 07:03:25 PM  

jayhawk88: Do you get the feeling the only reason Hoodie did this, is so he can get Tebow a TD when the Pats play the Jets, and Rex will have to answer questions from the NY media about it for a week?


That would be Maximum Trolling, and I'm OK with that.
 
2013-06-10 07:03:39 PM  

buckeyebrain: In other news, jizz moppers from all over the country are being dispatched to Bristol, CT in much the same fashion as firefighters that are called in during a disaster.


http://www.servpro.com/

Has ESPN announced which single 30 minute segment of the day will be left Tebow-free? Or will it just be Tebow 24/7 for the next few months?
 
2013-06-10 07:04:12 PM  

varmitydog: So now Rob Gronkowski is going to have to put up or shut up. Link Or is that put out or shut up? Maybe put out or get out?


Trust me, getting two bottoms together doesn't work.
 
2013-06-10 07:05:58 PM  
cdn.alltheragefaces.com
 
2013-06-10 07:06:22 PM  

mjohnson71: buckeyebrain: In other news, jizz moppers from all over the country are being dispatched to Bristol, CT in much the same fashion as firefighters that are called in during a disaster.

http://www.servpro.com/

Has ESPN announced which single 30 minute segment of the day will be left Tebow-free? Or will it just be Tebow 24/7 for the next few months?


TSPN. All Tebow, All The Time.
 
2013-06-10 07:07:07 PM  

ariseatex: varmitydog: So now Rob Gronkowski is going to have to put up or shut up. Link Or is that put out or shut up? Maybe put out or get out?

Trust me, getting two bottoms together doesn't work.


Snert
 
2013-06-10 07:08:09 PM  

Dinobot: Captain Steroid: Dinobot: That said, it would be loltastic if somehow Brady gets injured in the playoffs and Tim Tebow, as a backup, defeats the Denver Ponies.

[i1182.photobucket.com image 500x281]

As much as I love my Denver Ponies, I'd not mind John Elway eating some humble pie courtesy of a Tim Tebow-led Patriots, just for shiats and giggles.


I'd be selling pitchforks to the angry mob demanding Elway's head. :P
 
2013-06-10 07:10:29 PM  

EyeballKid: And over in Stanford,
ESPN staffers say,
Skip Bayless's boner
Grew 3 sizes that day!


Full of win!
 
2013-06-10 07:13:20 PM  
Now we get to see if he can catch.
 
2013-06-10 07:15:09 PM  
Tebow just might get that Super Bowl ring after all . . . and what a glorious day it will be on Fark if he does.
 
2013-06-10 07:16:17 PM  

Tom_Slick: jayhawk88: Do you get the feeling the only reason Hoodie did this, is so he can get Tebow a TD when the Pats play the Jets, and Rex will have to answer questions from the NY media about it for a week?

That would be Maximum Trolling, and I'm OK with that.


I, too, support this notion.
i624.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-10 07:17:49 PM  
Tim Tebow = the next Matt Cassel?

/you gotta aim high, right?
 
2013-06-10 07:17:51 PM  

chewielouie: Tebow just might get that Super Bowl ring after all . . . and what a glorious day it will be on Fark if he does.


Meh, Rob Johnson has a superbowl ring.  I think we're all used to undeserving individuals happening to be sitting on the right bench on the right year.
 
2013-06-10 07:19:15 PM  

CavalierEternal: If Tom Brady is God, then what does that make Eli Manning?


Pontius Pilate?
 
2013-06-10 07:22:53 PM  
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha !
 
2013-06-10 07:23:41 PM  
the Tom Trebow from The National Champion Crocodiles of The University of the Peninsular State Just Below Georgia?
 
2013-06-10 07:25:41 PM  
As an Eagles fan, I'm ok with this.
Hey Bill, you want Vick too? He's yours. We'll even throw in a seventh... Make that sixth round pick if you'll take him off our hands.
 
2013-06-10 07:29:19 PM  

buckeyebrain: Treygreen13: Dinobot: Klippoklondike: The Bestest: ariseatex: Captain Steroid: CavalierEternal: Di Atribe: the biggest redneck here: bongmiester: really? this one?


.
 
2013-06-10 07:30:00 PM  
Gronk gets to fark Tebow now.
 
2013-06-10 07:33:21 PM  

xaks: Tom_Slick: jayhawk88: Do you get the feeling the only reason Hoodie did this, is so he can get Tebow a TD when the Pats play the Jets, and Rex will have to answer questions from the NY media about it for a week?

That would be Maximum Trolling, and I'm OK with that.

I, too, support this notion.
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Same!
 
2013-06-10 07:35:18 PM  

His unbelievably smarmy/shiatty personality aside, I'm okay with this, and I'm a Pats fan. We already know he'll do a great job kneeling down to hold the ball on extra points.

You have to feel bad for the guy he's replacing, though. Poor Mike Kafka. If only there were a word for situations where people, already marginalized by a cruel and capricious system, are powerless to prevent bad things from happening to them.

upload.wikimedia.org
R.I.P. MIKE KAFKA
 
2013-06-10 07:40:55 PM  
New England:  The land just perfect for any kind of religious outcast
 
2013-06-10 07:41:04 PM  

Betep: Gronk gets to fark Tebow now.


That's a clause in the contract. Every time Gronk farks him, he gets to do one press conference. Otherwise, media blackout.
 
2013-06-10 07:41:43 PM  

semiotix: His unbelievably smarmy/shiatty personality aside, I'm okay with this, and I'm a Pats fan. We already know he'll do a great job kneeling down to hold the ball on extra points.

You have to feel bad for the guy he's replacing, though. Poor Mike Kafka. If only there were a word for situations where people, already marginalized by a cruel and capricious system, are powerless to prevent bad things from happening to them.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 200x267]
R.I.P. MIKE KAFKA


So THAT'S where Kafka went after the Eagles. I was wondering where he disappeared to.
 
2013-06-10 07:47:22 PM  
By the gods.

Really, think about it.

Talk about the immovable object (Darth Hoodie's No Nonsense locker room) and the irresistable force...TimmaySprinkles and the BronieJesusBoys.

...

This could be...epic.
 
2013-06-10 07:50:19 PM  
My old man is an ex-football player, not pro or anything, but he thinks Tebow would be better off as a fullback than QB. What do some of you think?
 
2013-06-10 07:50:36 PM  

Paka Ono: Taking bets now, Tebow finishes the season as a TE, after Gronk has his 47th surgery on his forearm.


I can see this happening yeah....
 
2013-06-10 07:52:03 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: buckeyebrain: Treygreen13: Dinobot: Klippoklondike: The Bestest: ariseatex: Captain Steroid: CavalierEternal: Di Atribe: the biggest redneck here: bongmiester: really? this one?

.


This

...?
 
2013-06-10 07:52:17 PM  
Where's Bernard Pollard when you need him?
 
2013-06-10 07:53:50 PM  

traxan: My old man is an ex-football player, not pro or anything, but he thinks Tebow would be better off as a fullback than QB. What do some of you think?


He'd be a splendid FB, he's built like a bull, strong, and has NO problem sticking his nose into a pile and initiating contact. Even more as a goof-play, FB/handoff/pass option kind of thing, really freeze the LBs.

... or maybe even TE. Not sure how well he can catch, but if he allies himself to blocking, he'd be swell on the end of a line.
 
2013-06-10 07:57:37 PM  
fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net
 
2013-06-10 07:58:19 PM  

xaks: Tom_Slick: jayhawk88: Do you get the feeling the only reason Hoodie did this, is so he can get Tebow a TD when the Pats play the Jets, and Rex will have to answer questions from the NY media about it for a week?

That would be Maximum Trolling, and I'm OK with that.

I, too, support this notion.
[i624.photobucket.com image 389x205]


That'd be great...except that the NY coverage of it would bleed into ESPN/Boston sports media.  Hell, that could be my entire justification for disliking just about everything about Tebow.
 
2013-06-10 08:04:33 PM  
I'm positive the Hoodie has some plan that does not involve Tebow under center.

FB / TE are the obvious ones; depends on whether Tebow's hands are as worthless as his arm, I suppose
 
2013-06-10 08:07:16 PM  
The Dolphins should've picked him up.  If for no other reason than to make up for the awful new uniforms and logo.  At least he'd put butts in seats.  Not like they're going to win anything anyway.
 
2013-06-10 08:08:24 PM  
What's the over/under on how long it takes Teblow being under Darth Hoodie to get busted doing lines off a hooker's ass in the back of a tattoo parlor while an illegal poker game is being played and hotel room keys are being bet?

How long before he goes to the Dark Side?
 
2013-06-10 08:10:20 PM  

cetacei: The Dolphins should've picked him up.  If for no other reason than to make up for the awful new uniforms and logo.  At least he'd put butts in seats.  Not like they're going to win anything anyway.


I wouldn't count them out completely just yet. The only real challenge in the division is the Pats, otherwise its only the Bills and the J E S T. Don't forget, while Tannehill is no Aaron Rodgers, Joe Philbin was Green Bays OC and QC for a while and that offense lit up the scoreboard week in and week out.
 
2013-06-10 08:11:50 PM  

Mercutio74: chewielouie: Tebow just might get that Super Bowl ring after all . . . and what a glorious day it will be on Fark if he does.

Meh, Rob Johnson has a superbowl ring.  I think we're all used to undeserving individuals happening to be sitting on the right bench on the right year.


No. I doubt Belichick is bringing him in to ride the bench. I'd wager he wants to see if he can effectively use Tebow, when the Jets couldn't. This could be fun to watch.
 
2013-06-10 08:12:50 PM  
Here's the relevant quote:

Green Bay Packers
In 2003, Philbin joined the Green Bay Packers coaching staff. He spent nine years in Green Bay. During his tenure as offensive coordinator (2007-2011), the Packers offense ranked in the top 10 in the NFL for points scored and total yards every year, including their Super Bowl season.
 
2013-06-10 08:12:51 PM  

chewielouie: No. I doubt Belichick is bringing him in to ride the bench. I'd wager he wants to see if he can effectively use Tebow, when the Jets couldn't. This could be fun to watch.


It kinda feels like cheating if you convert him to a position more suited to his talents.
 
2013-06-10 08:17:00 PM  
cdn.jockular.com
 
2013-06-10 08:25:16 PM  
lolololololololololololololol
 
2013-06-10 08:26:30 PM  

jayhawk88: Do you get the feeling the only reason Hoodie did this, is so he can get Tebow a TD when the Pats play the Jets, and Rex will have to answer questions from the NY media about it for a week?


Sept. 12 (NFL Network) and Oct. 20. Too bad the games don't come later in the season.
 
2013-06-10 08:36:19 PM  

Betep: Gronk gets to fark Tebow now.


Uh.  I'll be in my bunk.
 
2013-06-10 08:36:54 PM  
This is brutal.  Things were finally calming down, it looked like the worst was behind us.  Now we have at least another 10 months of every other story in sports news being Tebow related.
 
2013-06-10 08:46:10 PM  
I am interested in seeing what they signed him for.
Is he going to compete for the backup spot? Either actual competition, or just to give Mallett something to work against.
Are the pats looking to downgrade their backup and try to deal Mallett somewhere?
Does Belichek intend to try and change his position?

It isn't like they are really risking anything here. And unlike the Jets, they have a real quarterback to keep things from getting out of hand with him sitting on the bench. And they are certainly used to being at the centre of the media spotlight. So as much as it is an annoying move, I don't see any real downside for the Pats.
 
2013-06-10 08:47:28 PM  

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: This is brutal.  Things were finally calming down, it looked like the worst was behind us.  Now we have at least another 10 months of every other story in sports news being Tebow related.


Not necessarily.
If Belichick wants no media hype, I have to believe there won't be any.
 
2013-06-10 08:48:07 PM  
GOOD, and maybe they will actually let him play rather that making him sit on the bench and watch the farking game. Asshats grabbed his contract just to bench him for the season, then complained when he didn't play up to their highly overinflated expectations.
 
2013-06-10 08:48:22 PM  

traxan: My old man is an ex-football player, not pro or anything, but he thinks Tebow would be better off as a fullback than QB. What do some of you think?


Your dad is Al Bundy?
 
2013-06-10 08:51:01 PM  
Tebow to New England? That's hilarious. You know what I want to see? I want to see Tom Brady get absolutely nuked, because then there are two possible outcomes:

1) Tebow has an epic season and in doing so completely destroys the legend of Tom Brady. Of course, that comes with a price since it enhances the legend of the Hoodie-Wearing Cheater (and how many titles has he won since that went down, anyway?), and who wants that?

2) Tebow is everything that people say he is and drags the Patsies down, down, down.

Either way we win, and since I kinda like Tebow against my better judgment I'll hope for the first outcome, but let's be honest, isn't the second one more likely?

But for any of this to happen it requires some serious Roughing-The-Brady, a call that comes when anyone gets within 5 yards of him and results in fines and suspensions, so we need someone to take one for the rest of us. Who will The Father send on behalf of his only begotten Son?
 
2013-06-10 08:51:52 PM  
NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO
*barf*
NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO
 
2013-06-10 08:52:49 PM  

CavalierEternal: If Tom Brady is God, then what does that make Eli Manning?


Peyton's little brother
 
2013-06-10 08:59:46 PM  
Perfect fit
 
2013-06-10 09:15:51 PM  
No. Tebow was handed the wrong script. He's supposed to fade into obscurity in the CFL.

I don't want to live in Bruins AND Te-Jesus country.
 
2013-06-10 09:21:06 PM  
Someone should get him a house in Salem.
 
2013-06-10 09:25:21 PM  

ariseatex: varmitydog: So now Rob Gronkowski is going to have to put up or shut up. Link Or is that put out or shut up? Maybe put out or get out?

Trust me, getting two bottoms together doesn't work.


Speaking of two bottoms, Fred Smoot did an AMA on r/nfl today.  He had something to say about the Love Boat.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-10 09:25:53 PM  
Genius move by the Pats.

1.  Sign Tebow
2.  Sell thousands of jerseys, shirts, posters, fatheads, etc. throughout the Bible belt
3.  Cut Tebow after preseason

The underpants gnomes never considered adding Tebow to the equation.
 
2013-06-10 09:26:04 PM  

Nogrhi: Someone should get him a house in SalemLawrence.


FTFY.

A: It's cheaper than Salem.
B: He can do his charity thing, lord knows that city needs it
C: He'll probably get mugged and his car jacked within 10 days of moving in.
 
2013-06-10 09:41:05 PM  

AdamK: ariseatex: Klippoklondike: Anyway, to the point.  Putting Tebow in Boston was the only way for him to get MORE press coverage.  It's just not gonna stop.  It's like the terminator of news/not news.  No matter what you do, it will keep coming.

I'm afraid that's what he and his agent were thinking.  Of course the press is a fickle mistress.

Best case scenario for him, of course, is that spending time with Brady will teach him how to be a better QB, both on the field and on the sideline.  No matter what I think of the Patriots, I can't deny Brady's skill as a team leader.  Hopefully Tebow learns leading means more than "just do what I say and let me run the ball!"

sure, the patriots as a franchise have never been afraid of players - either when using them or letting them go, either you play as a team member or go home

sometimes that gets them in trouble (like letting go of wes welker) but other times they did it perfectly (like starting Brady or letting go of Moss)

i'm not sure how much the media control helps keep players focused, it's probably just a cog in the system, but if Ochocinco could be reigned in then so could Tebow


Ok, I get the hate on Fark, but wtf did Tebow do that was so bad he needs to be reigned in?
 
2013-06-10 09:56:26 PM  

Theaetetus: Dougie AXP: So

Brady = Jesus?
Belichick = The Father
Tebow = The Holy Ghost?

If that means he's not going to be seen on the field, then I'm for it.


He is either the luckiest or smartest guy in the NFL.  I'd be surprised if he even takes a snap this season.(Maybe pre-season.)  He has probably never had a broken fingernail, much less a concussion while playing.  He is laughing all the way to the bank.
 
2013-06-10 09:59:54 PM  

Girl On Couch: Paka Ono: Taking bets now, Tebow finishes the season as a TE, after Gronk has his 47th surgery on his forearm.

I can see this happening yeah....


Brady to Tebow. Book it, done.

/Bilichek could get Howie Long out of retirement
 
2013-06-10 10:02:26 PM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: the Tom Trebow from The National Champion Crocodiles of The University of the Peninsular State Just Below Georgia?


You win 1 internets in my book.

/Named my cat once Herschel Walker Cuyler Them Dawgs Is Hell Dont They.
//F'ing Biatch of an ex gave him to me, then took him back after we broke up.
///Awesome, awesome cat.
 
2013-06-10 10:07:14 PM  
Is everyone overlooking the fact that Tebow - Hernandez only scored a gajillion TD's in Florida?   Hoodie isn't stupid.   Hell, if he's actually half as smart as everyone claims he is/isn't, he'll keep him at QB.   Why *totally* fark with his development and stick him in a new position?

Sure, he might be able to pull off TE or FB, I *might* be able to kick a 25 yard FG too.  Doubt it'll happen in the game situation.
 
2013-06-10 10:09:51 PM  

Di Atribe: CavalierEternal: If Tom Brady is God, then what does that make Eli Manning?


One SB win short of "God" mode.
 
2013-06-10 10:12:25 PM  

emtbiz:


That looks extremely similar to my friend's wife...

/fapfapfap
 
2013-06-10 10:23:51 PM  

Tumunga: AdamK: ariseatex: Klippoklondike: Anyway, to the point.  Putting Tebow in Boston was the only way for him to get MORE press coverage.  It's just not gonna stop.  It's like the terminator of news/not news.  No matter what you do, it will keep coming.

I'm afraid that's what he and his agent were thinking.  Of course the press is a fickle mistress.

Best case scenario for him, of course, is that spending time with Brady will teach him how to be a better QB, both on the field and on the sideline.  No matter what I think of the Patriots, I can't deny Brady's skill as a team leader.  Hopefully Tebow learns leading means more than "just do what I say and let me run the ball!"

sure, the patriots as a franchise have never been afraid of players - either when using them or letting them go, either you play as a team member or go home

sometimes that gets them in trouble (like letting go of wes welker) but other times they did it perfectly (like starting Brady or letting go of Moss)

i'm not sure how much the media control helps keep players focused, it's probably just a cog in the system, but if Ochocinco could be reigned in then so could Tebow

Ok, I get the hate on Fark, but wtf did Tebow do that was so bad he needs to be reigned in?


nothing personal, Tebow and the media just need to go on a sabbatical for a year while the dude develops into a more productive player
 
2013-06-10 10:54:43 PM  
Tebow has been signed to help Gronk cut down on partying.
 
2013-06-10 11:28:03 PM  
fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net
 
2013-06-10 11:34:02 PM  
Tebow gets cut during camp.  Fark complains that New England doesn't understand what it takes to win.
 
2013-06-10 11:46:15 PM  

Mind of the North Star: [fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net image 310x360]


lulz
 
2013-06-10 11:47:47 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: ... Random Steelers' fan word salad...


The two possible outcomes you are looking for:

1) Tebow barely plays or doesn't play at all, and they trade him to some team for a 6th round pick, at which point the Pats continue to win the AFC East year after year.

2) Tebow is put in a useful role and the Pats continue to win the AFC East year after year.
 
2013-06-10 11:59:30 PM  

poughdrew: Adolf Oliver Nipples: ... Random Steelers' fan word salad...

The two possible outcomes you are looking for:

1) Tebow barely plays or doesn't play at all, and they trade him to some team for a 6th round pick, at which point the Pats continue to win the AFC East year after year.

2) Tebow is put in a useful role and the Pats continue to win the AFC East year after year.


And gag in the playoffs year after year. Sounds good.
 
2013-06-11 12:08:38 AM  

CavalierEternal: If Tom Brady is God, then what does that make Eli Manning?


Boring?
 
2013-06-11 12:20:46 AM  

Dougie AXP: Theaetetus: Dougie AXP: So

Brady = Jesus?
Belichick = The Father
Tebow = The Holy Ghost?

If that means he's not going to be seen on the field, then I'm for it.

Well I mean, Belichick is defnitely the Father.
Tebow sure as shiat ain't Hay-zeus in this scenario. That only leaves him as the Holy Ghost with Brady definitely being Hay-zeus


In that case Mallett = Thor ;)
 
2013-06-11 12:21:06 AM  

jayhawk88: Do you get the feeling the only reason Hoodie did this, is so he can get Tebow a TD when the Pats play the Jets, and Rex will have to answer questions from the NY media about it for a week?


Best troll ever...
 
2013-06-11 12:35:28 AM  

chewielouie: No. I doubt Belichick is bringing him in to ride the bench. I'd wager he wants to see if he can effectively use Tebow, when the Jets couldn't. This could be fun to watch.


Exactly.  This is really the only NFL team that makes any sense to sign him.  Nobody will fark with Hoody on this, and if they do, Hoody don't give a fark.  He's got Brady, and there's no farking reason to play Tebow if Hoody doesn't want to play Tebow.

From Brady's point of view, eventually he might become good enough to be #2, but he'll never take over for Brady unless Brady is retired or injured.  If he can contribute in a way that Brady stops losing Super Bowls I doubt he'll mind giving up a few snaps.  He seems more of a "do what we need to win" rather than "stroke my own ego" type QB.  (His wife is a different story, but maybe she can make Tebow a man if Gronk can't.)

No matter what, Hoody's bringing the lulz, and I love it.  It also makes the Chargers decision to media blackout for Te'o untili mini/training camp seem even smarter since Tebow will now be ESPN's jizzrag #1.
 
2013-06-11 01:08:43 AM  
tebow will slot in as TE in place of gronk. also possibly FB. which no teams tried him at
 
2013-06-11 01:10:25 AM  
Tebow's not taking Brady's spot.  He's taking LeGarrette Blount's spot.  The Bradysneak is already an incredibly potent weapon on the goal line, as are Gronkowski and Herny.  Amendola might be a poor man's Welker, but he's no slouch  Put Tebeer in the backfield, with the threat of Brady over center and huge TEs everywhere, and that's one more versatile weapon in Belichek's arsenal.  The Patriots have been desperate for a short-yardage banger, and Tebow fits that bill, possibly plus some.  Add into that his usefulness on the practice squad preparing the starters for read-options, and it starts to look like a pretty smart move.
 
2013-06-11 01:48:56 AM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: tebow will slot in as TE in place of gronk. also possibly FB. which no teams tried him at


He's repeatedly said he won't play anything but QB.  Maybe it finally got through that he's not going to be an NFL QB.
 
2013-06-11 02:17:57 AM  
GimpyNip must be LOVING this.
 
2013-06-11 02:32:09 AM  

poughdrew: Adolf Oliver Nipples: ... Random Steelers' fan word salad...

The two possible outcomes you are looking for:

1) Tebow barely plays or doesn't play at all, and they trade him to some team for a 6th round pick, at which point the Pats continue to win the AFC East year after year.

2) Tebow is put in a useful role and the Pats continue to win the AFC East year after year.


Then the Ravens kick their ass in the playoffs. Again.
 
2013-06-11 02:35:03 AM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: tebow will slot in as TE in place of gronk. also possibly FB. which no teams tried him at


I see. Tebow will play a position he's never played before. You are not intelligent.
 
2013-06-11 02:51:12 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-11 02:59:08 AM  
Why did this have to happen? I really was ready for Mr. Tebow to move on out of organized athletics to the exciting world of Christian motivational speaking and to operate a chain of sports camps for little straight Christian boys.
 
2013-06-11 03:16:15 AM  

UNC_Samurai: ariseatex: varmitydog: So now Rob Gronkowski is going to have to put up or shut up. Link Or is that put out or shut up? Maybe put out or get out?

Trust me, getting two bottoms together doesn't work.

Speaking of two bottoms, Fred Smoot did an AMA on r/nfl today.  He had something to say about the Love Boat.

[i.imgur.com image 850x537]


Welp, there's my fantasy team name for next year.
 
2013-06-11 04:05:29 AM  
Tebow haters really have no idea how irrational and bigoted they sound.  There is no sound reasoning in their arguments and no facts to back up their accusations of his incompetence
.
Here are the completion percentages and win/loss records for the first year of several "top" quarterbacks compared to Tebow:

Player                         Completion               W/L Record
John Elway                    47.5%                         4-6
Payton Manning             56.7%                         3-13
Troy Aikman                   52.9%                         0-11
Terry Bradshaw              38.1%                         3-5
Joe Namath                    48.2%                         3-5-1
Tim Tebow                      46.5%                         7-4

Tebow earned the right and has demonstrated the ability to excel at the NFL level as much as any of these guys did in their first year.  The attacks on this kid are irrational and based simply on hatred and bigotry.
 
2013-06-11 04:42:29 AM  

garron: Tebow haters really have no idea how irrational and bigoted they sound.  There is no sound reasoning in their arguments and no facts to back up their accusations of his incompetence
.
Here are the completion percentages and win/loss records for the first year of several "top" quarterbacks compared to Tebow:

Player                         Completion               W/L Record
John Elway                    47.5%                         4-6
Payton Manning             56.7%                         3-13
Troy Aikman                   52.9%                         0-11
Terry Bradshaw              38.1%                         3-5
Joe Namath                    48.2%                         3-5-1
Tim Tebow                      46.5%                         7-4

Tebow earned the right and has demonstrated the ability to excel at the NFL level as much as any of these guys did in their first year.  The attacks on this kid are irrational and based simply on hatred and bigotry.


No, no, its obviously because  he is so innacurate.  So innacurate that only 2 active QBs had higher completion percentages than him in college.  I mean, clearly he cant hit the broad side of a barn.
 
2013-06-11 05:51:02 AM  
This is Classic Belichick. He loves to sign players the Jets release, if only to pick their brains of whatever inside information he can glean from them, before letting them go. That was the plan with Woodhead, but then he found out Danny could play, so Hoodie kept him on the roster. I suspect it will be much the same with Tebow... Belichick will grill God's Favorite Player for every scrap of information he can get, then let Tebow's play during OTA and minicamp determine if he earns a roster spot.

The big difference between the Pats and the Jets, aside from a culture of winning with the Pats, is that Belichick doesn't do "Stunt Signings" in order to get PR. The Pats get all the good PR and ticket sales they need just by their great play on the field.

/No Homer, Rams fan here.
 
2013-06-11 05:56:12 AM  
This farking sucks. I love Tebow but I *hate* the Patriots with a passion that rivals only my hatred
for the Dallas Cowboys.
 
2013-06-11 06:30:45 AM  
Oh that God! the patriots don't get enough coverage on ESPN now. This should help bring them back into the spotlight.
 
2013-06-11 06:31:43 AM  

abhorrent1: Oh that  thank God! the patriots don't get enough coverage on ESPN now. This should help bring them back into the spotlight.


dammit!
 
2013-06-11 07:16:39 AM  
What's going to be great is now ever single time the Patriots win and the Jets lose, ESPN will ask "Why couldn't the Jets win with Tebow as a back-up, while the Pats can?". I give it to mid-season before Skip Bayless is calling for Rex Ryan to be canned for letting Tebow 'slip through his fingers'.
 
2013-06-11 07:19:30 AM  

MmmmBacon: What's going to be great is now ever single time the Patriots win and the Jets lose, ESPN will ask "Why couldn't the Jets win with Tebow as a back-up, while the Pats can?". I give it to mid-season before Skip Bayless is calling for Rex Ryan to be canned for letting Tebow 'slip through his fingers'.


Is that kind of like blaming RGIIIs injury on Jay Cutler?
 
2013-06-11 07:24:32 AM  

abhorrent1: MmmmBacon: What's going to be great is now ever single time the Patriots win and the Jets lose, ESPN will ask "Why couldn't the Jets win with Tebow as a back-up, while the Pats can?". I give it to mid-season before Skip Bayless is calling for Rex Ryan to be canned for letting Tebow 'slip through his fingers'.

Is that kind of like blaming RGIIIs injury on Jay Cutler?


Will it sell advertising time? Then yes!
 
2013-06-11 07:36:11 AM  
They signed him to lay hands on Gronk.  It's the only chance of him playing again.
 
2013-06-11 08:08:40 AM  

The Muthaship: They signed him to lay hands on Gronk.  It's the only chance of him playing again.


Oh Gronk will be fine this coming season, just as long as he never gets touched by an opposing player. Ever.
 
2013-06-11 08:13:27 AM  
Tebow is joining Motorhead?
 
2013-06-11 08:32:09 AM  

MmmmBacon: The Muthaship: They signed him to lay hands on Gronk.  It's the only chance of him playing again.

Oh Gronk will be fine this coming season, just as long as he never gets touched by an opposing player. Ever.


Ehh, he'll miss a few games, but he should be fine for the playoffs.
 
2013-06-11 08:39:33 AM  

eudemonist: Add into that his usefulness on the practice squad preparing the starters for read-options, and it starts to look like a pretty smart move


I think this very possibly was Belicheck's primary motivation for teh signing.  Realistically he is a 3rd string "better than putting Gronk at QB" type of QB, unlikely to see any meaningful playing time.

BUT, there were multiple teams making waves in the NFL last year with read-option schemes, and Belicheck has a reputation for being prepared.  Tebow probably has approximately the right size/speed to be a "practice Kaepernick".

I'd say having a trick play or two using Tebow to unsettle the defense is a secondary consideration, and his value as a long-term contributer is expected to be basically zero.

Just my 2 cents.
 
2013-06-11 09:12:21 AM  
i view this as i did when dennis rodman went to the bulls.  strong head coach on a team with a clear leader- while tebow and rodman's baggage are polar opposite, both bring baggage to the team.  if anyone can harness tebow's ability, it'll be belicheck and josh-i forgot his last name already.
 
2013-06-11 09:15:26 AM  

garron: Tebow haters really have no idea how irrational and bigoted they sound.  There is no sound reasoning in their arguments and no facts to back up their accusations of his incompetence
.
Here are the completion percentages and win/loss records for the first year of several "top" quarterbacks compared to Tebow:

Player                         Completion               W/L Record
John Elway                    47.5%                         4-6
Payton Manning             56.7%                         3-13
Troy Aikman                   52.9%                         0-11
Terry Bradshaw              38.1%                         3-5
Joe Namath                    48.2%                         3-5-1
Tim Tebow                      46.5%                         7-4

Tebow earned the right and has demonstrated the ability to excel at the NFL level as much as any of these guys did in their first year.  The attacks on this kid are irrational and based simply on hatred and bigotry.


Tebow Hater/Lover aside...I am pretty sure the coaches/GM's in the NFL value winning above everything else, and if a guy can get it done on the field they will give them every chance.

Tebow has obviously not given his coaches/GM's any signs that he is capable of running a routinely successful NFL offense.  I don't know if it is his throwing technique which he catches so much flak for (being way too slow for quick NFL DB's), his prediliction for dancing outside the pocket, or what, but something is causing his coaches some real heartburn when it comes time to put him in the game.

To me, he seems like a good leader and is willing to learn/adapt (even if not very successful at it to-date), and when given a shot with a tailer-made offense, he kept winning in Denver...so it seems like someone should take a shot on him...and yet, he is like the friggin plague to coaches/GM's.

I didn't appreciate his prostheletizing commercial during the super bowl when he was still just another college QB (and I'm not pissy about it, he had every right, just personally I find TV commercials a horrible/shallow place to start an argument on religion/morality) ...but everything I have seen in the media since then just seems like what 99% of NFL players say...Thanks God and Jesus and wants to win and cares about teammates and all that.  I think it is fairly well known that most NFL fans really don't care one way or another about the guy at this point, and that most people are MUCH more annoyed with how sports media in general blows everything about him out of proportion.  I mean...who was the last 3rd string QB signed this off season before Tebow, why wasn't that breaking news?

And yet here I am furthering the conversation...I should learn my lesson
 
2013-06-11 09:20:17 AM  
Tebow has risen
http://imageshack.us/a/img708/4605/tebowressurection.gif
 
2013-06-11 09:21:35 AM  
stupid link won't link
 
2013-06-11 09:33:59 AM  

MmmmBacon: I give it to mid-season before Skip Bayless. Rex Ryan to be canned for letting Tebow 'slip through his fingers'.


i36.photobucket.com

The more Rex tightens his grip, the more players will slip through his fingers.
 
2013-06-11 09:48:43 AM  

Dinobot: That said, it would be loltastic if somehow Brady gets injured


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2013-06-11 09:53:06 AM  
rack.2.mshcdn.com

Run-Pass option.  I think that's my game.
 
2013-06-11 10:16:10 AM  

garron: Tebow haters really have no idea how irrational and bigoted they sound.  There is no sound reasoning in their arguments and no facts to back up their accusations of his incompetence
.
Here are the completion percentages and win/loss records for the first year of several "top" quarterbacks compared to Tebow:

Player                         Completion               W/L Record
John Elway                    47.5%                         4-6
Payton Manning             56.7%                         3-13
Troy Aikman                   52.9%                         0-11
Terry Bradshaw              38.1%                         3-5
Joe Namath                    48.2%                         3-5-1
Tim Tebow                      46.5%                         7-4

Tebow earned the right and has demonstrated the ability to excel at the NFL level as much as any of these guys did in their first year.  The attacks on this kid are irrational and based simply on hatred and bigotry.


So you're using Tebow's second year stats and comparing them to "top" (sic) quarterbacks' rookie years?

Seems legit.
 
2013-06-11 10:29:07 AM  
The contrast between salivating, priapismal journalists and barely-conscious Belichick at the resulting press conference should be glorious.
 
2013-06-11 10:34:01 AM  

CavalierEternal: If Tom Brady is God, then what does that make Eli Manning?


a winning QB that no one cares about?
 
2013-06-11 10:43:57 AM  

Wadded Beef: So you're using Tebow's second year stats and comparing them to "top" (sic) quarterbacks' rookie years?

Seems legit.


Also, cherry picking one individual stat and W-L hardly seems fair.  Football isn't suited to limited sabermetric analysis.  Completion percentage, while important, doesn't correlate well enough with W-L to mean anything.  Especially since a completion can be a 15 yard laser beam splitting two defenders or it could be hitting a WR running a 3 yard hook.

The difference between Tebow and "top" quarterbacks is that when you watch them play, you can see the skill set of a quarterback in action.  When you watch Tebow play you ask yourself why you're watching a fullback try to pass when he clearly isn't familiar with the concept of even throwing a spiral.
 
2013-06-11 10:51:41 AM  

Wadded Beef: So you're using Tebow's second year stats and comparing them to "top" (sic) quarterbacks' rookie years?

Seems legit.


How many games did he start in his first season?

One of my big gripes against the Tebow criticism is that people were calling him a bust in 2011, where even though he played several games as a starter, he ended up starting less games than Christian Ponder... in fact. Christian Ponder, in just that season alone, started more games than Tebow has in 3 years in the NFL.

I always said that had the Jets allowed him to start once it was obvious the season was not salvageable and Mark Sanchez was not gonna get any better, it would have made it easier to judge Tebow fairly... If he would win games for the Jets, then good, if he would lose them, then good as well. At least you would have a better sampling size to judge him properly, otherwise it will be hard to shake the image there was something special going on for Tebow in 2011, specially with that playoff win against the Steelers.

At this point, Tebow has as many playoff wins as Romo, and is the last Broncos QB with a playoff win since Jake Plummer.

Just saying...
 
2013-06-11 10:52:48 AM  
I'll give Belichick credit for this press conference - he seems to be the only person in the room who understands that signing a backup QB isn't worth discussing at length.
 
2013-06-11 10:56:50 AM  
Who cares? Pats are still favored to win the SB...again
 
2013-06-11 10:57:29 AM  
Dinobot:

One of my big gripes against the Tebow criticism is that people were calling him a bust in 2011, where even though he played several games as a starter, he ended up starting less games than Christian Ponder... in fact. Christian Ponder, in just that season alone, started more games than Tebow has in 3 years in the NFL.

I always said that had the Jets allowed him to start once it was obvious the season was not salvageable and Mark Sanchez was not gonna get any better, it would have made it easier to judge Tebow fairly... If he would win games for the Jets, then good, if he would lose them, then good as well. At least you would have a better sampling size to judge him properly, otherwise it will be hard to shake the image there was something special going on for Tebow in 2011, specially with that playoff win against the Steelers.

At this point, Tebow has as many playoff wins as Romo, and is the last Broncos QB with a playoff win since Jake Plummer.

Just saying...


1.  Why is it hard to shake the image from the win over the Steelers but easy to shake the image from the atrocious playing against the Patriots the week after or the three games before the Steelers for that matter?

2. What about judging Greg McElroy fairly?
 
2013-06-11 11:10:29 AM  

Hang On Voltaire: 1.  Why is it hard to shake the image from the win over the Steelers but easy to shake the image from the atrocious playing against the Patriots the week after or the three games before the Steelers for that matter?


Because It was obvious to everyone that the Patriots were gonna steamroll them, regardless of how good Tebow would play. But in the Steelers, even though many people were saying the Steelers were gonna win, people did concede the Broncos had a fighting chance and then comes the Dragon to Thomas to open OT. (I called it right before the OT started. =P)

it just has a lot of elements that would make a good narrative, which is why it sticks with people.

The Jets screwed themselves in the first place with the QB drama. And I do feel bad for McElroy, but I feel worse for Tebow.
 
2013-06-11 11:25:15 AM  
Dinobot:
Because It was obvious to everyone that the Patriots were gonna steamroll them, regardless of how good Tebow would play. But in the Steelers, even though many people were saying the Steelers were gonna win, people did concede the Broncos had a fighting chance and then comes the Dragon to Thomas to open OT. (I called it right before the OT started. =P)

it just has a lot of elements that would make a good narrative, which is why it sticks with people.

The Jets screwed themselves in the first place with the QB drama. And I do feel bad for McElroy, but I feel worse for Tebow.


Tebow had one of, if not the, worst QB rating in the league.  He was below 50% completions against the Steelers and he was something like 30% against the Pats.  He is a terrible QB.  My point about McElroy is that Tebow was given a fair chance with the Jets.  It's called practice sessions.
 
2013-06-11 11:38:58 AM  

Hang On Voltaire: Dinobot:
Because It was obvious to everyone that the Patriots were gonna steamroll them, regardless of how good Tebow would play. But in the Steelers, even though many people were saying the Steelers were gonna win, people did concede the Broncos had a fighting chance and then comes the Dragon to Thomas to open OT. (I called it right before the OT started. =P)

it just has a lot of elements that would make a good narrative, which is why it sticks with people.

The Jets screwed themselves in the first place with the QB drama. And I do feel bad for McElroy, but I feel worse for Tebow.

Tebow had one of, if not the, worst QB rating in the league.  He was below 50% completions against the Steelers and he was something like 30% against the Pats.  He is a terrible QB.  My point about McElroy is that Tebow was given a fair chance with the Jets.  It's called practice sessions.


Tebow, in 2012, had a 75% completion, and a 84.9% QBR in the limited time he saw action for the Jets. Sanchez had a 54.3% completion and a 66.9 QBR

Also, yeah, in 2011, he had a below 50% completion rate, but his QBR was higher than several other QBs, including Sam Bradford and Chris Ponder.
 
2013-06-11 11:47:18 AM  

Dinobot: Tebow, in 2012, had a 75% completion, and a 84.9% QBR in the limited time he saw action for the Jets. Sanchez had a 54.3% completion and a 66.9 QBR


I think you have to look at the playcalling.  I don't have any specific stats but did the offensive co-ordinator call a different game when Tebow was in than when Sanchez was in?

Just for the sake of argument, back when Dante Culpepper was throwing to Randy Moss there would be a different expectation of completion percentage than a team that say... relied on short passes to Priest Holmes.  It's  risk vs. reward scenario and doesn't scale when you deal with dissimilar personnel in dissimilar offensive systems.

The real way to judge a quarterback is to watch him play and assess what value he adds or subtracts from the team.  You could make the argument that a big part of Tebow's success in Denver was good defensive play when he wasn't on the field.
 
2013-06-11 11:50:15 AM  

orange whip: Who cares? Pats are still favored to win the SB...again


You'd think sports people would learn that even an historically good offense can get shut down by a good defense.  And if your defense is barely serviceable......

Right, Pittsburgh?
 
2013-06-11 11:52:07 AM  
Dinobot:

Tebow, in 2012, had a 75% completion, and a 84.9% QBR in the limited time he saw action for the Jets. Sanchez had a 54.3% completion and a 66.9 QBR


LOL, he threw 8 passes, and had 4.9 Y/A.  It's much easier to complete short passes. His passing numbers from 2012 are worthless, and the fact you're bringing them pretty shows that you know there is no real defense for Tim Tebow as a starting QB.
 
2013-06-11 12:03:27 PM  
Dinobot:

Tebow, in 2012, had a 75% completion, and a 84.9% QBR in the limited time he saw action for the Jets. Sanchez had a 54.3% completion and a 66.9 QBR

Also, yeah, in 2011, he had a below 50% completion rate, but his QBR was higher than several other QBs, including Sam Bradford and Chris Ponder.


You are correct about Tebows 2012 completion percentage and QBR and based on those two stats from his 6 completions on 8 attempts FOR THE YEAR he was literally the best QB in the NFL.  Where did he finish in the MVP voting?  Andrew Luck had more passing yards in the 2nd quarter of his first game last year than Tebow had all year.  As for 2011, Tebow had the worst completion percentage in the NFL
 
2013-06-11 12:09:45 PM  

Hang On Voltaire: As for 2011, Tebow had the worst completion percentage in the NFL


I dont think I denied that in my post. Just saying that the Jets should have used him more once the season was pretty much unsalvageable -- I mean, he did a better job with the Broncos than Orton, maybe he could have done a better job than Sanchez as well.
 
2013-06-11 12:48:13 PM  

Hang On Voltaire: Dinobot:

One of my big gripes against the Tebow criticism is that people were calling him a bust in 2011, where even though he played several games as a starter, he ended up starting less games than Christian Ponder... in fact. Christian Ponder, in just that season alone, started more games than Tebow has in 3 years in the NFL.

I always said that had the Jets allowed him to start once it was obvious the season was not salvageable and Mark Sanchez was not gonna get any better, it would have made it easier to judge Tebow fairly... If he would win games for the Jets, then good, if he would lose them, then good as well. At least you would have a better sampling size to judge him properly, otherwise it will be hard to shake the image there was something special going on for Tebow in 2011, specially with that playoff win against the Steelers.

At this point, Tebow has as many playoff wins as Romo, and is the last Broncos QB with a playoff win since Jake Plummer.

Just saying...

1.  Why is it hard to shake the image from the win over the Steelers but easy to shake the image from the atrocious playing against the Patriots the week after or the three games before the Steelers for that matter?

2. What about judging Greg McElroy fairly?


Lest anyone forget: McElroy playing a game in college
 
2013-06-11 12:50:54 PM  

GreatGlavinsGhost: Hang On Voltaire: Dinobot:

One of my big gripes against the Tebow criticism is that people were calling him a bust in 2011, where even though he played several games as a starter, he ended up starting less games than Christian Ponder... in fact. Christian Ponder, in just that season alone, started more games than Tebow has in 3 years in the NFL.

I always said that had the Jets allowed him to start once it was obvious the season was not salvageable and Mark Sanchez was not gonna get any better, it would have made it easier to judge Tebow fairly... If he would win games for the Jets, then good, if he would lose them, then good as well. At least you would have a better sampling size to judge him properly, otherwise it will be hard to shake the image there was something special going on for Tebow in 2011, specially with that playoff win against the Steelers.

At this point, Tebow has as many playoff wins as Romo, and is the last Broncos QB with a playoff win since Jake Plummer.

Just saying...

1.  Why is it hard to shake the image from the win over the Steelers but easy to shake the image from the atrocious playing against the Patriots the week after or the three games before the Steelers for that matter?

2. What about judging Greg McElroy fairly?

Lest anyone forget: McElroy playing a game in college


Freakin' YouTube that link should be: Link
 
2013-06-11 01:06:55 PM  

Dinobot: Wadded Beef: So you're using Tebow's second year stats and comparing them to "top" (sic) quarterbacks' rookie years?

Seems legit.

How many games did he start in his first season?

One of my big gripes against the Tebow criticism is that people were calling him a bust in 2011, where even though he played several games as a starter, he ended up starting less games than Christian Ponder... in fact. Christian Ponder, in just that season alone, started more games than Tebow has in 3 years in the NFL.

I always said that had the Jets allowed him to start once it was obvious the season was not salvageable and Mark Sanchez was not gonna get any better, it would have made it easier to judge Tebow fairly... If he would win games for the Jets, then good, if he would lose them, then good as well. At least you would have a better sampling size to judge him properly, otherwise it will be hard to shake the image there was something special going on for Tebow in 2011, specially with that playoff win against the Steelers.

At this point, Tebow has as many playoff wins as Romo, and is the last Broncos QB with a playoff win since Jake Plummer.

Just saying...


Ahem, if I may?  Measuring playoff wins as an individual accomplishment is faulty. You can either talk team or individual. Don't mix them up.
 
2013-06-11 01:49:32 PM  

jayhawk88: Do you get the feeling the only reason Hoodie did this, is so he can get Tebow a TD when the Pats play the Jets, and Rex will have to answer questions from the NY media about it for a week?


lulz
 
2013-06-11 02:00:33 PM  

Di Atribe: Dinobot: Wadded Beef: So you're using Tebow's second year stats and comparing them to "top" (sic) quarterbacks' rookie years?

Seems legit.

How many games did he start in his first season?

One of my big gripes against the Tebow criticism is that people were calling him a bust in 2011, where even though he played several games as a starter, he ended up starting less games than Christian Ponder... in fact. Christian Ponder, in just that season alone, started more games than Tebow has in 3 years in the NFL.

I always said that had the Jets allowed him to start once it was obvious the season was not salvageable and Mark Sanchez was not gonna get any better, it would have made it easier to judge Tebow fairly... If he would win games for the Jets, then good, if he would lose them, then good as well. At least you would have a better sampling size to judge him properly, otherwise it will be hard to shake the image there was something special going on for Tebow in 2011, specially with that playoff win against the Steelers.

At this point, Tebow has as many playoff wins as Romo, and is the last Broncos QB with a playoff win since Jake Plummer.

Just saying...

Ahem, if I may?  Measuring playoff wins as an individual accomplishment is faulty. You can either talk team or individual. Don't mix them up.


The notion that Tebow "wasn't judged fairly" is absurd. A basic eye test will tell you he lacks precision and has issues with a slower release than a guest at Guantanamo. Local radio here (Denver) from Bronco insiders went into some detail on how he wasn't able to read defenses and make audibles to avoid disastrous plays. And the Broncos were even forced to go as far as to revamp the entire playbook for Tebow. In short, anybody else with this much baggage would have been cut after their rookie year.

And he couldn't get on the field with the diseased Jets? That's pretty telling.
 
2013-06-11 02:01:47 PM  

my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: Tebow Hater/Lover aside...I am pretty sure the coaches/GM's in the NFL value winning above everything else, and if a guy can get it done on the field they will give them every chance.


I can see why DeWayneMann stays away from football threads. His head would explode.
 
2013-06-11 02:31:16 PM  

Wadded Beef: The notion that Tebow "wasn't judged fairly" is absurd. A basic eye test will tell you he lacks precision and has issues with a slower release than a guest at Guantanamo. Local radio here (Denver) from Bronco insiders went into some detail on how he wasn't able to read defenses and make audibles to avoid disastrous plays. And the Broncos were even forced to go as far as to revamp the entire playbook for Tebow. In short, anybody else with this much baggage would have been cut after their rookie year.

And he couldn't get on the field with the diseased Jets? That's pretty telling.


Oh I agree completely. Which is why saying, "But Tebow has a playoff win!" isn't telling at all to me. The BRONCOS got a playoff win. I've seen lots of people in the past 24 hours laud Tebow as someone who "just wins." That's crap. I laugh at them. For all the reasons you listed.

Also, LOL @ "slower release than a guest at Guantanamo." Well well well played.
 
2013-06-11 02:43:56 PM  
If anyone or any team will knock the "Look at me, I'm special" right out of you, it's Coach Hoodie and the Patriots.
 
2013-06-11 03:11:34 PM  

No Line For Beer: If anyone or any team will knock the "Look at me, I'm special" right out of you, it's Coach Hoodie and the Patriots.


But Timmy really does seems special.  Oh, you mean a different kind.
 
2013-06-11 03:17:40 PM  

Di Atribe: Which is why saying, "But Tebow has a playoff win!" isn't telling at all to me.


I can't believe I'm going to defend Tony Romo, even in a lukewarm fashion, but here goes.

Tony Romo hasn't come even remotely close to being as awful as Tim Tebow was in his playoff loss.  The guy was 9-for-26 and got blown out 45-10 in New England.  If his defenders get to say "he's got one playoff win" we get to say that he's also played one of the worst playoff games in the history of the forward pass.  The only reason he didn't throw any interceptions is that he's so inaccurate that his passes end up in the 3rd row of the mezzanine.
 
2013-06-11 03:41:35 PM  

Di Atribe: Wadded Beef: The notion that Tebow "wasn't judged fairly" is absurd. A basic eye test will tell you he lacks precision and has issues with a slower release than a guest at Guantanamo. Local radio here (Denver) from Bronco insiders went into some detail on how he wasn't able to read defenses and make audibles to avoid disastrous plays. And the Broncos were even forced to go as far as to revamp the entire playbook for Tebow. In short, anybody else with this much baggage would have been cut after their rookie year.

And he couldn't get on the field with the diseased Jets? That's pretty telling.

Oh I agree completely. Which is why saying, "But Tebow has a playoff win!" isn't telling at all to me. The BRONCOS got a playoff win. I've seen lots of people in the past 24 hours laud Tebow as someone who "just wins." That's crap. I laugh at them. For all the reasons you listed.

Also, LOL @ "slower release than a guest at Guantanamo." Well well well played.


Hee! Anyway, I don't hate the kid, I hate the whining and unwillingness by his followers to see that the emperor wears no clothes.

And Tony Romo is grossly underrated.
 
2013-06-11 05:13:03 PM  
Tony Romo also spend the entire length of Tim Tebow's career sitting on the bench learning about the NFL.
 
2013-06-11 05:17:18 PM  

bel4sucks: Tony Romo also spend the entire length of Tim Tebow's career sitting on the bench learning about the NFL.


Also Tony Romo throws like a quarterback, not a WR during a busted trick play.
 
2013-06-11 05:36:39 PM  

Mercutio74: bel4sucks: Tony Romo also spend the entire length of Tim Tebow's career sitting on the bench learning about the NFL.

Also Tony Romo throws like a quarterback, not a WR during a busted trick play.


It's not even about sitting and learning anymore. It's a win-now league and if you have the tools then you're on the field. I give you RGIII, Andrew Luck, Andy Dalton, Cam Newton, Colin Kaepernick and Russell Wilson. Except for Kaepernick all have been starting since day one and all are arguably the stars of the next decade.
 
2013-06-11 06:24:34 PM  

Wadded Beef: It's not even about sitting and learning anymore. It's a win-now league and if you have the tools then you're on the field. I give you RGIII, Andrew Luck, Andy Dalton, Cam Newton, Colin Kaepernick and Russell Wilson. Except for Kaepernick all have been starting since day one and all are arguably the stars of the next decade.


LOL this is crap, it's at best a stretch.  You've got no clue who is sitting on the bench right now who will emerge as the next superstar and also have no idea how any of those players will pan out.  The Patriots were smart to do what Elway's ego wouldn't let him.  There's a good chance it comes back to bite them in the ass too, decisions made like that usually do.

Mercutio74: Also Tony Romo throws like a quarterback, not a WR during a busted trick play.


LOLOLOLOLOL and what's it's gotten him or his team?
 
2013-06-11 06:38:33 PM  

bel4sucks: LOLOLOLOLOL and what's it's gotten him or his team?


Fark all, because the Cowboys have a crap team.  I'm not saying that Romo's a great QB, but he's competent... certainly he lacked the skills to polish the Dallas turd into a diamond.

What we saw with Tebow in Denver is what happens when you put a crap quarterback on the field with a pretty good team.

But that's the problem with assuming that a QB's performance 1:1 correlates with a team's success.  A weak QB can be pretty glaring, more so than a weak OLB, for example, but you can still win with a weak QB.  It's very difficult to win with an average to good QB and a weak everything else.
 
rka
2013-06-11 07:36:03 PM  

bel4sucks: LOLOLOLOLOL and what's it's gotten him or his team?


A damn sight better contract than 2 years and 0 money guaranteed.d

0 money guaranteed? In the NFL? Unheard of for anyone other than scrubs and no-hopers....oh wait.
 
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