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(Cracked)   So, how many of you have noticed the symbolism in any of these five movies?   (cracked.com ) divider line
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2013-06-10 08:47:26 PM  

oh_please: EyeballKid: oh_please: I think you're confusing "conservatives" with "fundies"...most conservatives I know are fine with gay rights. And I live in one of the reddest states in the country.

Yeah, just 10 years after that same state turned out to vote for Dubya 'cos that foreign-lookin' John Kerry was gunna make er'body get queer married to each other. Don't act like the conservative movement has been down with homosexuals forever. I mean, they have, but only when nobody's looking.

Sure, that's why Kerry lost in Alabama. If he had been against gay marriage, he would have taken Alabama in a landslide, no problem.

shortymac: Obama only started touting gay rights after he got elected for a 2nd term, it's still a very hot-button issue in the African-American community.

This.


And there's something to be said for taking Alabama at the exclusion of other states?
 
2013-06-10 08:58:01 PM  

Shazam999: I felt like I was being slapped on the face with Ian McKellan's cock when I was watching the X-Men movies.


Funny, for me it was the other way around.
 
2013-06-10 09:18:53 PM  

CptnSpldng: oh_please: EyeballKid: oh_please: I think you're confusing "conservatives" with "fundies"...most conservatives I know are fine with gay rights. And I live in one of the reddest states in the country.

Yeah, just 10 years after that same state
turned out to vote for Dubya 'cos that foreign-lookin' John Kerry was gunna make er'body get queer married to each other. Don't act like the conservative movement has been down with homosexuals forever. I mean, they have, but only when nobody's looking.

Sure, that's why Kerry lost in Alabama. If he had been against gay marriage, he would have taken Alabama in a landslide, no problem.

shortymac: Obama only started touting gay rights after he got elected for a 2nd term, it's still a very hot-button issue in the African-American community.

This.

And there's something to be said for taking Alabama at the exclusion of other states?


That's what he seemed to be talking about.
 
2013-06-10 09:23:17 PM  

Lord Dimwit: No Country for Old Men may or may not be about "retirement" - but I don't think so. It's about how mankind tells himself stories about how he can control the world and behavior through laws and rules when in fact the world doesn't care at all for our rules and restrictions, and whatever's going to happen is going to happen - but we keep trying anyway, futilely.

Beautiful film. One of my favorites.

Haven't read the book yet though, so, I can't speak to it's meaning.


I thought that the whole point of the story was the scene near the end where the hero (Tommy Lee Jones) is about to confront the villain, but instead of following through and opening the door to the motel room (as Hollywood tradition dictates for a Western) he simply walks away as he's not up to the task.

Cormac McCarthy has made it clear that The Road is about the fact that by the time his son enters college, Cormac (who's in his 70s now) will be dead, and unable to protect him.
 
2013-06-10 09:28:37 PM  
Re: No Country For Old Men

Your movie may have a problem when it would be improved by completely removing the one character it is supposedly "about".
 
2013-06-10 10:01:14 PM  

Lord Dimwit: No Country for Old Men may or may not be about "retirement" - but I don't think so. It's about how mankind tells himself stories about how he can control the world and behavior through laws and rules when in fact the world doesn't care at all for our rules and restrictions, and whatever's going to happen is going to happen - but we keep trying anyway, futilely.

Beautiful film. One of my favorites.

Haven't read the book yet though, so, I can't speak to it's meaning.


i.imgur.com

/couldn't resist
 
2013-06-10 10:04:01 PM  

movieman_1979: Think the word you're looking for there is "symbology", subby


Had to check the comments in hopes someone made this reference.
 
2013-06-10 10:36:22 PM  

Skyrmion: Re: No Country For Old Men

Your movie may have a problem when it would be improved by completely removing the one character it is supposedly "about".


So, too many characters?  Sounds like "Too many notes".  Who the hell would you remove?  Jones? Brolin? Are you one of those guys who didn't like the end of the film?
 
2013-06-10 10:53:24 PM  

knbwhite: Skyrmion: Re: No Country For Old Men

Your movie may have a problem when it would be improved by completely removing the one character it is supposedly "about".

So, too many characters?  Sounds like "Too many notes".  Who the hell would you remove?  Jones? Brolin? Are you one of those guys who didn't like the end of the film?


I thought it would have been better without the entire Tommy Lee Jones thread.
 
2013-06-10 11:56:13 PM  

Shazam999: Sensual Tyrannosaurus: Also, the symbolism in X-Men is hardly worth saying "did you notice that?" It's not even remotely subtle. The scenes with kids 'coming out' as mutants to their parents?
"Have you tried not being a mutant?"
Sound anything like...
"Have you tried not being gay?"

And then there was First Class. That movie pissed me off with how transparent it was. "Mutant and Proud" as a mantra is hokey sounding and obviously a metaphor for homosexuality.

I don't have a problem with the message, but try not to be so ham-fisted, people. Subtlety is an art form unto itself.

You know who likes fisting hams?  Ah, oh, forget it...


Kermit?
 
2013-06-11 12:16:45 AM  
I have not seen any of those movies.

WTF
 
2013-06-11 12:21:15 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: I thought that the whole point of the story was the scene near the end where the hero (Tommy Lee Jones) is about to confront the villain, but instead of following through and opening the door to the motel room (as Hollywood tradition dictates for a Western) he simply walks away as he's not up to the task.


Pretty sure this never happens.  He opens the door and goes inside, there's just nobody there at the time.
 
2013-06-11 12:41:43 AM  
cdn2.openculture.com

Obviously, some of you are fans of this documentary.

A documentary where even Alex Jones would go 'Farking hell, you're trolling me, right?'.
 
2013-06-11 02:42:32 AM  

Skyrmion: Re: No Country For Old Men

Your movie may have a problem when it would be improved by completely removing the one character it is supposedly "about".


Confused Mathew did a great review of this supposedly good movie.
 
2013-06-11 02:49:33 AM  

Uzzah: There are a couple of different stories at work there, but the entire purpose of Tommy Lee Jones' character is to show that he sees how the times have outpaced him and it's time for him to retire. It's not subtle or hidden at all.


This, but for all of the movies listed.

It's not so much symbology, but trope or obvious parallel.

Inception.  No duh.  They're all putting on a performance for their target, so yes, you will have simulacra/counterparts to any other show production.

X-men.  The shift from race equality to gay rights was tiny, add a couple heavy handed lines that almost come off as jokes just to make the bigots look worse( Have you tried not being..). Racism doesn't quite work, because many mutants are not obvious visually, so homosexuality was a bit more apt.  The writing may have been intentional, but it was not symbology, it was a distinct parallel to how the real world works, same as inception.  At it's heart, it's about bigotry, always was, they just incorporated a newer type that fit well is all.

Aliens. Standard horror movie trope.  Bad decisions all around, almost everyone dies. Also: Soldiers that look like soldiers and fighting craft that vaguely resembles fighting craft?  Whoever wrote it is reaching for straws here.

Big Lebowski. I'll cut this one some slack, just because so much crazy in the movie it could be stretched to man a lot of stuff.  But intentional symbology?  if they say so now, it would come off as "um....uh....I meant to do that! Yeah, totally!" (Ala Bladerunner being a robot derp)
 
2013-06-11 04:49:01 AM  

Skyrmion: knbwhite: Skyrmion: Re: No Country For Old Men

Your movie may have a problem when it would be improved by completely removing the one character it is supposedly "about".

So, too many characters?  Sounds like "Too many notes".  Who the hell would you remove?  Jones? Brolin? Are you one of those guys who didn't like the end of the film?

I thought it would have been better without the entire Tommy Lee Jones thread.


Let's remove Bruce Wayne from the next Batman movie while we're at it.  Or the Vietnam War from Apocalypse now.  Oh I know... Moby Dick without the whale.

TLJ is what the movie is farking about, you numbskull.  Go make your own movie if you refuse to acknowledge that.
 
2013-06-11 05:54:23 AM  

WippitGuud: ertznay: James Cameron's Aliens, the godfather of sci-fi action movies

...And thus, with the very first sentence of the article, I stopped reading

You make the claim that there was another sci-fi action move before Aliens which set the standard?


Plan 9.
 
2013-06-11 08:27:03 AM  

WippitGuud: ertznay: James Cameron's Aliens, the godfather of sci-fi action movies

...And thus, with the very first sentence of the article, I stopped reading

You make the claim that there was another sci-fi action move before Aliens which set the standard?


Really depends on your definition of an action movie, but Outland makes a good contender, certainly the last act.

Colour_out_of_Space: Shazam999: I felt like I was being slapped on the face with Ian McKellan's cock when I was watching the X-Men movies.

Funny, for me it was the other way around.


So, being slapped in the face by Ian McKellan's cock starts out pretty good, becomes great, but then just ends in disappointment?

Useful to know.
 
2013-06-11 11:17:25 AM  

Shazam999: I felt like I was being slapped on the face with Ian McKellan's cock when I was watching the X-Men movies.


Were you sitting in his hot tub when you were watching the movie?
 
2013-06-11 11:54:01 AM  

ko_kyi: Shazam999: I felt like I was being slapped on the face with Ian McKellan's cock when I was watching the X-Men movies.

Were you sitting in his hot tub when you were watching the movie?


I didn't say I didn't enjoy it...
 
2013-06-11 12:16:06 PM  

LesserEvil: that bosnian sniper: LesserEvil: [img2u.info image 544x364]

Calumet represents the peace pipe, here, where Hallorann is talking, Kubric skillfully posed the can to be in full view.

Oh great now some tinfoil hatter is going to zero in on the cans of Tang and completely miss the point.

Or... they will spend time realizing the German typewriter Jack uses in his writing changes color,

[img2u.info image 400x300] [img2u.info image 320x240]

representing the Holocaust, as Kubrick was clearly trying to show.


One of the funniest tinfoil hat ones was that apparently now makes it about the loss of the Gold Standard. The same commentator used to think it was about child abuse, but I guess RON PAUL happened to him.
 
2013-06-11 02:54:21 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Skyrmion: knbwhite: Skyrmion: Re: No Country For Old Men

Your movie may have a problem when it would be improved by completely removing the one character it is supposedly "about".

So, too many characters?  Sounds like "Too many notes".  Who the hell would you remove?  Jones? Brolin? Are you one of those guys who didn't like the end of the film?

I thought it would have been better without the entire Tommy Lee Jones thread.

Let's remove Bruce Wayne from the next Batman movie while we're at it.  Or the Vietnam War from Apocalypse now.  Oh I know... Moby Dick without the whale.

TLJ is what the movie is farking about, you numbskull.  Go make your own movie if you refuse to acknowledge that.


Nice reading comprehension you've got there. Did you see the part where I said, Your movie may have a problem when it would be improved by completely removing the one character it is supposedly "about"?
 
2013-06-11 11:09:02 PM  

Shazam999: I felt like I was being slapped on the face with Ian McKellan's cock when I was watching the X-Men movies.


Okay, I laughed out loud at that. Well done.
 
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