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(Entertainment Weekly)   HBO: "We finally understand the fans fear. What if the storytelling catches up to the books?" Martin: "Since I am not going to finish book 6 any time soon, how about these prequels over here?" HBO: "How about no"   (insidetv.ew.com) divider line 180
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2013-06-10 01:26:18 PM
 
2013-06-10 01:26:55 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-10 01:29:21 PM
The number of characters has grow geometrically as the books have gone on, a prequel would have to be from only one person's perspective to fit.

/make it the Book of Hodor
 
2013-06-10 01:29:45 PM
Martin needs an attitude adjustment.  I think socks filled with rolls of hundred dollar bills should be used in a blanket party followed by a couple dollars worth of pennies shoved up his ass.  That ought to get him writing faster.
 
2013-06-10 01:32:25 PM
In before "you're not owed a book."
 
2013-06-10 01:32:45 PM
 
2013-06-10 01:32:52 PM

Igor Jakovsky: [i.imgur.com image 850x478]


I think I've seen that one. It ends....messily
 
2013-06-10 01:33:00 PM
On one hand, this is HBO's fault for not planning ahead and stretching the available books out to account for Martin's procrastination.

On the other hand, Martin did take forever to get the last two books completed and I would guess that, had the TV series not been picked up, he would have never completed A Dance with Dragons.  The first three books were done within 4 years and the last 2 took 11 to write.  Martin is not one to be rushed, or finish a project.  I would guess the only reason he is completing the series is because if he doesn't, the writers on the show will finish it for him.
 
2013-06-10 01:33:09 PM
Heh. It's going to be so funny when GoT the series spoils the end of GoT the books.
 
2013-06-10 01:33:12 PM
I farking hate GRRM and I only waited 4 years or so for dance. I got through it by reading a 10,000 post plus thread on somethingawful that made it plain what an inconsiderate asshole he is.

The show will catch up to the books, because that fat asshole will only write on his 100 year old comptuter and takes year long mastabatory convention tours. Oh, and he edifs 'wild cards', and brags about it on his blog when people complain about the snail's pace of the book slwriting.

And any asshole who replies to me with 'the author doesn't owe you anything'.can fark off. He's an enormous cocktease and has a responsibility to finish hus story before his massive coronary. And unlike Robert Jordan he has publically stated that nobody can finish the story if he dies.

Total dick.
 
2013-06-10 01:35:51 PM
Oh, and a latent pedophile. He writes about the things he loves: food, rape, and teenage sex.
 
2013-06-10 01:36:08 PM
The legal battle when the wrestle creative control from him to end the series divergent from the book (like the first FMA) is gonna be epic.
 
2013-06-10 01:36:22 PM
Write, very old one. Write like the wind!
 
2013-06-10 01:36:34 PM
 
2013-06-10 01:40:35 PM
People pestering GRRM to finish The Winds of Winter should remember that he is a big enough asshole to make the book entirely focused on Patchface and Shireen and the things they eat, purely out of spite.
 
2013-06-10 01:40:56 PM

LeafyGreens: In before "you're not owed a book."


Just barely.
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2013-06-10 01:41:24 PM

Cheron: The number of characters has grow geometrically as the books have gone on, a prequel would have to be from only one person's perspective to fit.

/make it the Book of Hodor


Isn't that the character of Martin himself? I heard everytime Hodor speaks his own name, Martin pens another death.
 
2013-06-10 01:43:10 PM
If Martin keeps this up he'll be the next Robert Jordan.

The good news is that we'll have some teenagers, a few members on death row, and Matthew McConaughey finish the series and the story will probably what was originally intended.
 
2013-06-10 01:43:14 PM
Hodor was brilliant last night.
 
2013-06-10 01:44:32 PM
fark you grrm. You could have finished this already if you had not started to write the dunk and egg series.

Wlso, i dont give a shiat about what neil gaiman thinks about me for voicing my displeasure.
 
2013-06-10 01:44:51 PM
Actually, at this point an ending can only disappoint. It's not like history ends, so why should the game of thrones?
 
2013-06-10 01:49:38 PM

Nurglitch: Actually, at this point an ending can only disappoint. It's not like history ends, so why should the game of thrones?


Wow. Really?
 
2013-06-10 01:50:41 PM

Dinobot: fark you grrm. You could have finished this already if you had not started to write the dunk and egg series.

Wlso, i dont give a shiat about what neil gaiman thinks about me for voicing my displeasure.


Don't forget Wild Cards.

And fark Gaiman. Self important douche.
 
2013-06-10 01:51:16 PM

Nurglitch: Actually, at this point an ending can only disappoint. It's not like history ends, so why should the game of thrones?


Game of Thrones == War of the Roses. The ice zombies are extra
 
2013-06-10 01:52:03 PM
I do think GGRM has a point though. I feel like a lot of the stories are rushed. Particularly this most recent episode. If they took their time this wouldn't be much of an issue. I could watch the Lannister family and Arya/Hound story lines all day.

That being said, after watching some interviews with him, am I the only one who thinks that Martin's got a big too big for his britches? I don't mean that as a fat joke
 
2013-06-10 01:53:35 PM

inclemency: Oh, and he edifs 'wild cards'


I've been reading the Wild Cards series since the mid-80s and I'd far rather that he work on those than Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones at this point WILL be finished by someone or other. The world is never going to run out of epic fantasy series but there is pretty much nothing else out there as far as prose-format super-heroes.
 
2013-06-10 01:58:23 PM

LegacyDL: If Martin keeps this up he'll be the next Robert Jordan.


100% blatantly false. In fact, this statement is the highpoint of lazy pointmaking not based in any fact about this whole frickin series that the internet makes.

Robert Jordan left notes, selected an author to finish Wheel of Time AND made sure everyone knew about it well before hand. His series is DONE. Complete. Finito. I know what happened.

If Martin dies, so does his book series. Meaning we git zilch. Nada. Kaputski.

/yes I am white knighting Robert Jordan
//no, he won't sleep with me
///willingly anyway

//subby
 
2013-06-10 01:59:07 PM
Do you really want Martin to continue writing after the last two books?  At this point, the cook preparing the dinner feast will have his own chapter/POV where he will describe the feast before Tyrion describes the feast in his chapter.
 
2013-06-10 02:00:46 PM
I think that winds of winter will be written much faster because he figured out Dany's storyline (by basically rebooting it). It's why he split the books and wasted time in other storylines.

(book spoilers)

My theory:

She takes Drogon and takes over whats-his-names Khalasar. Goes back to Meereen, kills off the last remaining forces, and gets her ass to Westeros, FINALLY.
 
2013-06-10 02:02:03 PM
GoT watchers, welcome to the GoT Readers Pain Club.

Do not expect a resolution in your lifetime.
 
2013-06-10 02:04:16 PM
When I first learned that HBO would be adapting the series I was half excited and a half upset because I believe that I would prefer Martin finish the books on his own terms like he would have and that because of the TV series the books won't be written as they would have been. I've read that he has supposedly outlined the events and how the series ends and that he has shared this with the producers of the TV show. Who knows if that's true. I hope it is should he keel over and die but then why is it taking so long to write them? Is it a matter of filling in the blanks and connecting the dots? If that is the case then this pressure to write them quickly will likely result in him taking short cuts and cutting material where he previously wouldn't and that is material that we would have had and enjoyed.

Maybe that's just me.
 
2013-06-10 02:04:46 PM

Detinwolf: Do you really want Martin to continue writing after the last two books?  At this point, the cook preparing the dinner feast will have his own chapter/POV where he will describe the feast before Tyrion describes the feast in his chapter.


Those 2 books are filler, meant to fill a 5 year gap in the story. The next one should return to the normal story line in which unfortunately 90% of the characters are going to die. Yes, all your favorites. Her too.
 
2013-06-10 02:06:37 PM

likefunbutnot: inclemency: Oh, and he edifs 'wild cards'

I've been reading the Wild Cards series since the mid-80s and I'd far rather that he work on those than Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones at this point WILL be finished by someone or other. The world is never going to run out of epic fantasy series but there is pretty much nothing else out there as far as prose-format super-heroes.


No. You are incorrect on all fronts. Assertions, opinions... No good.
 
2013-06-10 02:08:19 PM

bluenote13: On one hand, this is HBO's fault for not planning ahead and stretching the available books out to account for Martin's procrastination.


Yeah... no. It take a massive success and luck to stretch any TV show, much less a high budget HBO one, to 7 seasons. You think they should have planned for even more to accomodate Martin's recent lazy writing habits?
 
2013-06-10 02:08:19 PM

Clash City Farker: The next one should return to the normal story line in which unfortunately 90% of the characters are going to die. Yes, all your favorites. Her too.


No, not Mya Stone and Hot Pie!
 
2013-06-10 02:09:53 PM
My uncle lives in Santa Fe, and sometimes runs into GRRM.

Don't want to spoil things for you, but you know how you all like Ser Pounce? He's your favourite character from the books?

In the next book Ramsay Bolton catches him, and he gets his genitals chopped off and is then flayed alive.

GRRM says it's because fark you all.
 
2013-06-10 02:12:37 PM
article makes no sense and contradicts itself?

check.
 
2013-06-10 02:14:27 PM

Cagey B: Clash City Farker: The next one should return to the normal story line in which unfortunately 90% of the characters are going to die. Yes, all your favorites. Her too.

No, not Mya Stone and Hot Pie!


SPOILERS ALERT!!!  Hot Pie takes the Iron Throne with Hodor as his Hand of the King.
 
kab
2013-06-10 02:14:53 PM
Finally?   Readers were saying this would happen as soon as it was a confirmed TV show.

The guy writes like old people fark, I'll frankly be amazed if he lives to finish it.
 
2013-06-10 02:15:08 PM
I thought HBO already signed for Dunk and Egg
 
2013-06-10 02:19:42 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: LegacyDL: If Martin keeps this up he'll be the next Robert Jordan.

100% blatantly false. In fact, this statement is the highpoint of lazy pointmaking not based in any fact about this whole frickin series that the internet makes.

Robert Jordan left notes, selected an author to finish Wheel of Time AND made sure everyone knew about it well before hand. His series is DONE. Complete. Finito. I know what happened.

If Martin dies, so does his book series. Meaning we git zilch. Nada. Kaputski.

/yes I am white knighting Robert Jordan
//no, he won't sleep with me
///willingly anyway

//subby


Also, Wheel of Time drug out because, like Song of Ice and Fire, later books got huge and meandering and the series went to 14 books total. But that said the biggest gap was 4 years between books and that was the gap between Jordan's last book and the first of the three that Sanderson finished. If you look at the publication history it was pretty consistently 2-3 years between books through most of the run.
 
2013-06-10 02:19:58 PM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: Don't want to spoil things for you, but you know how you all like Ser Pounce? He's your favourite character from the books?

In the next book Ramsay Bolton catches him, and he gets his genitals chopped off and is then flayed alive.


Dang, Ser Pounce is badass.  Anyway, Ramsay has it coming.

/know what else rhymes with Reek?
 
2013-06-10 02:20:06 PM
Jeez people, do I have to explain how it works? Authors build credit. A good or great book/character/storyline grows that credit in the readers mind. The Author can then cash in that credit with details and personal whims that the reader may find tedious. If the cash in exceeds the credit limit the series is dropped by the reader. Martin has so much credit right now you will sit through the history of Dorne for 5 more books and beg for more.
 
2013-06-10 02:22:36 PM
Kind of surprised HBO doesn't hire a ghost writer or something sitting with him encouraging him and helping him write faster
 
2013-06-10 02:23:03 PM
Didn't Martin supposedly told the TV show producers some of the major plot points of the upcoming books in case he passed?

I'm sure that I've heard or read about it.
 
2013-06-10 02:24:23 PM

DarkPascual: Didn't Martin supposedly told the TV show producers some of the major plot points of the upcoming books in case he passed?

I'm sure that I've heard or read about it.


GRRM and D&D have both said that in interviews.
 
2013-06-10 02:25:34 PM

ShadowKamui: Nurglitch: Actually, at this point an ending can only disappoint. It's not like history ends, so why should the game of thrones?

Game of Thrones == War of the Roses. The ice zombies are extra


Only very loosely. Loosely enough that I'm not sure who'll get the iron throne. I have my suspicions, but there are no character-to-historical-figure perfect counterparts.
 
2013-06-10 02:30:26 PM

phaseolus: Obligatory -- George R.R. Martin is not your biatch.


No, he's just a writer who's been pissing away a promising series. Books 1-3 were great, books 4 and 5 were useless shiate.
 
2013-06-10 02:31:29 PM
I have very much enjoyed the television series thus far. So much, in fact, that I went out and bought the available books.

Now that I've read them, I am firmly convinced that A Game of Thrones is going to end exactly like Deadwood. Meaning, it's not. They're just going to stop making them at some point, because RR Martin is either not going to ever "finish" the series or if he does it's going to be the literary equivalent of the Soprano's final episode, ie: "I could go on with this forever but I'm tired of it, so here's something to think about and that's all you get"
 
2013-06-10 02:36:02 PM

fiddlehead: phaseolus: Obligatory -- George R.R. Martin is not your biatch.

No, he's just a writer who's been pissing away a promising series. Books 1-3 were great, books 4 and 5 were useless shiate.


My thoughts precisely. I read the first three and thought "Wow, no wonder this show is so good" then read the 4th and thought "Oh man, this isn't good" and by the end of the 5th book I was thinking "Well f*ck this sh*t".   Really not a very promising experience. I mean, A Dance with Dragons is pretty much a cut and paste job entirely formed fromcrap that should have happened in the other four books. Or not at all.

At the end of the day I've discovered that he is not an author I would recommend to anyone.
 
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