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(Boulder Daily Camera)   Attention citizens: If you leave your house door open and unlocked while you are away, the local police department will assume that means they are welcome to come inside and make sure everything is normal   (dailycamera.com) divider line 97
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2013-06-10 07:25:39 AM
FTFA: "On the off chance that I am being murdered or held hostage, I'd rather take my chances with that, than know that a cop can just come into my house if my door is open."

OK, I realize you may have plenty of reasons not to trust The Man, but this is stupid.
 
2013-06-10 07:46:00 AM
this is a complete non-story. trolly headline is trolly.
 
2013-06-10 07:50:20 AM
Abandoned houses are usually denoted by unsecured doors or windows, and abandoned houses are targets for all kinds of shiat.

I think that 40 minutes isn't very long, but what if the patrol came through every day, and she walked the dog every day at the same time? To him, it's been open for a week when he makes the call for the other officer to stop in.

This just doesn't feel that outlandish to me. Though I am buying a house next to an abandoned house, so I've familiarized myself lately.
 
2013-06-10 07:55:57 AM
I'm sure the local thieves in Boulder appreciate this news article.
 
2013-06-10 07:57:00 AM

log_jammin: this is a complete non-story. trolly headline is trolly.


This thread will deliver. Just wait.
 
2013-06-10 07:59:13 AM
I'm sure there are a number of sincere reasons to make a check like this, but TFA makes me think that the police just really don't like this lady.
 
2013-06-10 08:11:16 AM
She leaves her door open, sans screen, for 40 minutes at a time? Maybe she really, really likes scratching mosquito bites?
 
2013-06-10 08:11:52 AM
It would be interesting to see what would happen if they found something illegal in such an instance, whether the courts would rule it as inadmissable.  But since that didn't happen, I guess the takeaway here is KEEP YOUR FARKING DOOR CLOSED.
 
2013-06-10 08:24:05 AM
He said that even if Smiley had a closed screen door, the officer might have had a reasonable suspicion that something was amiss that would have spurred him to enter the home.

I don't give a damn about the rest of it, but that's messed up. A closed screen door isn't an invitation to enter.
 
2013-06-10 08:34:14 AM
Now we know why Colorado is disarming citizens.
 
2013-06-10 08:39:25 AM

LasersHurt: Abandoned houses are usually denoted by unsecured doors or windows, and abandoned houses are targets for all kinds of shiat.

I think that 40 minutes isn't very long, but what if the patrol came through every day, and she walked the dog every day at the same time? To him, it's been open for a week when he makes the call for the other officer to stop in.

This just doesn't feel that outlandish to me. Though I am buying a house next to an abandoned house, so I've familiarized myself lately.


How would the cop know there was no one in the house?  If you see a house with an open door leading to the deck wouldn't it be logical to assume there are people at home?
 
2013-06-10 08:43:41 AM

Flint Ironstag: LasersHurt: Abandoned houses are usually denoted by unsecured doors or windows, and abandoned houses are targets for all kinds of shiat.

I think that 40 minutes isn't very long, but what if the patrol came through every day, and she walked the dog every day at the same time? To him, it's been open for a week when he makes the call for the other officer to stop in.

This just doesn't feel that outlandish to me. Though I am buying a house next to an abandoned house, so I've familiarized myself lately.

How would the cop know there was no one in the house?  If you see a house with an open door leading to the deck wouldn't it be logical to assume there are people at home?


Generally they wouldn't check in unless it was open for a long time (days) or there was something super suspicious about it. I know the latter is vague, but if exercised carefully it's not a problem. After all, they do knock first, then announce on entering.
 
2013-06-10 08:48:35 AM
Dear rapists, female clothing and shoe fetishists, robbers, and tweakers of Boulder,

There's this lady who does not lock up her shiat. Here's how to get in.
 
2013-06-10 08:49:07 AM

Relatively Obscure: I'm sure there are a number of sincere reasons to make a check like this, but TFA makes me think that the police just really don't like this lady.


She sounds like a sh*t disturber.
 
2013-06-10 08:50:42 AM

LasersHurt: After all, they do knock first, then announce on entering.


Sure, after opening a latched gate and walking up some stairs. Seems legit. I'm sure the "many run-ins" she's had with the police had nothing to do with it at all. Nothing at all.
 
2013-06-10 08:53:48 AM
Of course, if she had found a copy of The Watchtower and not a policeman's business card, she would have had a completely different legal foot to stand on, even though both parties would have simply been concerned for her.
 
2013-06-10 09:01:13 AM
There was a case like this a few years ago here in the Twin Cities. Except it was at night, the keys were in the car door and the tv was on. IE it looks to anyone that a home invasion just happened. What actually happened was that the guy was drunk and the TV was on because his son was having a sleep over. IIRC when the police woke him up to tell him he was a dumbass for doing so he threaten to sue them. The cops responding that if he did so they could charge him with child endangerment since he left the door open with a bunch of unattended eight year old.
 
2013-06-10 09:01:50 AM
Yeah, an open door is not an invitation to come inside and poke around, cop or not.
Stay out of my house.
 
2013-06-10 09:02:42 AM

untaken_name: LasersHurt: After all, they do knock first, then announce on entering.

Sure, after opening a latched gate and walking up some stairs. Seems legit. I'm sure the "many run-ins" she's had with the police had nothing to do with it at all. Nothing at all.


Try to detach "This Case" from "In General." This woman sounds like a known problem, maybe someone overstepped here, maybe not.
 
2013-06-10 09:06:53 AM

ReverendJasen: Yeah, an open door is not an invitation to come inside and poke around, cop or not.
Stay out of my house.


We have a huge problem with abandoned houses in our area, thanks to the housing bubble bust and foreclosures. They actually found a meth lab in the house across the street when they went in to secure the place after the owner left the doors up and open, and just took off.
 
2013-06-10 09:10:30 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: She leaves her door open, sans screen, for 40 minutes at a time? Maybe she really, really likes scratching mosquito bites?


Also, maybe her place is just a shiathole full of possums and raccoons.
 
2013-06-10 09:16:02 AM
Next time they will do a TSA pat down on her.
 
2013-06-10 09:16:20 AM

ReverendJasen: Yeah, an open door is not an invitation to come inside and poke around, cop or not.
Stay out of my house.


If you don't answer when someone tries to see if you are okay then you better lube up your butthole because someones coming in.

Make sure you overreact and load up your guns and kill a few innocent people before you get shot. That's the internet tough guy ....I mean American way.
 
2013-06-10 09:19:06 AM
Have mixed feelings like this.

Part of me thinks it's good; there's a fair number of burglars who DO this; they go around and look for open doors.

Other part of me REALLY hopes the officer knows/door bells/calls out before entering.  If I'm coming back from a quick errand or in the bathroom or basement and find a strange guy in my living room?  Something stupid might happen.  Also hope that the officer doing this is in uniform.
 
2013-06-10 09:29:00 AM
When I moved to Boulder from Oakland six years ago, locals bragged about how it's so safe, they never needed to lock their doors. All I could think was, just how stupid do you have to be to leave doors open all night and go to sleep?

Dog owners in this town are a special breed of self-important ignoramuses who believe neither they nor their uncontrolled canines can do no wrong.

Thanks, confluence of entitlement mentality and abject idiocy for creating this environment.
 
2013-06-10 09:33:24 AM
Dear Big Brother:

You don't get to tell me whether I can leave my damn door open or not.

You don't have probable cause.  You do not have reasonableness for a search.

I'd have every right not to answer then blow your head off under the castle rule.

fark off,

Occupant
 
2013-06-10 09:37:29 AM
Yeah... I'm ok with this.
 
2013-06-10 09:44:47 AM
I was on-board with the cops until I read "Sgt. Jim MacPherson said Boulder police have dealt with Smiley on a number of issues and she is usually not cooperative."

This wasn't just some random house, they knew who the owner was and that they had a history of negative interaction.

That's enough reason to be very conservative about how far you go bending the rules for "safety's" sake.
 
2013-06-10 09:46:30 AM
If I was dumbass enough to leave my door wide open for a long period of time, I'm liable for whatever shiat happens in my house.

It's one thing to leave the door unlocked, another entirely to leave it wide open. For once, I stand behind the cops.
 
2013-06-10 09:54:21 AM

hardinparamedic: We have a huge problem with abandoned houses in our area, thanks to the housing bubble bust and foreclosures. They actually found a meth lab in the house across the street when they went in to secure the place after the owner left the doors up and open, and just took off.


There's a noticeable difference between an abandoned property and a cared-for, occupied home.  For instance, my car in the driveway. :)  Sure, check out abandoned homes.  But normally, an open door is not a a sign of distress.  Maybe they're airing the place out.  Maybe they like the breeze.  Maybe they want the dog to be able to come in and out.

Although I'm sure people will just think I'm anti-social and unreasonable to want people (and cops) to not invite themselves in and bother me.
 
2013-06-10 10:04:11 AM
Put an ad on Craigslist for Claymore Wanted. Watch Burn Notice episode on Claymore booby trap. Leave a note on the front door "Unlocked but Booby Trapped. Come in through the window."

Watch the SWAT team come over to check whether the house is empty.
 
2013-06-10 10:04:36 AM
Come on..the twitch lives in Boulder, where Colorado keeps our best nuts.
 
2013-06-10 10:06:18 AM
nekomIt would be interesting to see what would happen if they found something illegal in such an instance, whether the courts would rule it as inadmissable.  But since that didn't happen, I guess the takeaway here is KEEP YOUR FARKING DOOR CLOSED.from the comments (which we all know are always true and never trolly )However, my boyfriend's niece ended up with felony charges and jail time because her door blew open while she was at a concert and the police walked in and found her 'stash' on her coffee table. Nothing like coming home to an arrest for possession and intent to sell. The judge ruled that a door open at night was enough probably cause so they didn't need a warrant.
 
2013-06-10 10:08:09 AM
This is utter bullshait.

Also, is this bizarro Fark?

WTF is wrong with most of you today?
 
2013-06-10 10:14:57 AM
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2013-06-10 10:20:38 AM
Set the cops up for a big payday. Buy a skeleton, dress it in a dowdy floral gown, attach grey wig, glue long fingernails, set "her" at the dinner table with a bowl of old oatmeal. Next time the police come checking on her welfare, they will arrest her for something...anything. Sue...profit!
 
2013-06-10 10:22:11 AM
In some rural small-town areas, leaving a door open would be normal and not be a cause to invite the police to see what's going on. In a city, it's concerning. I can understand the police doing what they did.

/Boulder's a nice place.
//If you don't like the weather, wait a minute.
 
2013-06-10 10:29:41 AM
It's just creepy that someone would come in when I am not there."

It's also just wierd that anyone would just leave their house wide open and then leave for 40 minutes anywhere close to any major city.
 
2013-06-10 10:31:36 AM
I've checked abandoned house and ones with the door left open. Open doors are usually called in by neighbors or passersby, a lot of those times it's a burglary. We check the property then secure it until we can get a hold of the owner.

This is a non-issue.
 
2013-06-10 10:35:02 AM

thetubameister: Dear Big Brother:

You don't get to tell me whether I can leave my damn door open or not.

You don't have probable cause.  You do not have reasonableness for a search.

I'd have every right not to answer then blow your head off under the castle rule.

fark off,

Occupant


If you try this, you clearly don't want to live anymore. You don't have the right to shoot police during the course of their duties. It's a good way to have a swat team hunt you down and make you an ex-person.
 
2013-06-10 10:42:09 AM
Something similar happened to me when we moved into our house.  I forgot to not only lock, but also didn't close our back deck door enough that a strong wind was able to blow it open after I'd left for work.  A neighbor saw the door opened later that morning, and called the police since she was pretty sure we weren't home.  We have a fenced-in backyard,so they opened that gate and went through the back of the house to make there wasn't an intruder.  Left a business card on the fridge, closed the door, and left.

When I got home I didn't notice the business card at first, but did notice that they had left the fence gate open.  That startled me more than anything, until I saw the business card on the fridge.  I call them to find out if they'd been over, and they explained what happened.  Except leaving the fence gate open (we have dogs which luckily didn't make a break), I was fine with it.
 
2013-06-10 10:42:59 AM
People in Boulder getting all paranoid lately for some reason.

/munchies
 
2013-06-10 10:51:55 AM
I was kind of feeling sorry for this lady, until I read she didn't pick up after her dog.  She's clearly the kind of vermin who worries only about her own rights, while selfishly inconveniencing her neighbors.

I'm a retired federal law enforcement officer who's duties involved knocking on doors.  It's always kind of weird when you go to knock on a door and you find it ajar with no one home.
 
2013-06-10 10:53:03 AM
Yes, because rapists and thieves always leave the door wide open after they break into a residence.. oh wait they never do that for just this reason.

Bullshiat procedure is bullshiat.
 
2013-06-10 10:55:22 AM
So what if your door is open and you are home and just in another part of the house? just randomly waking into someones house could end badly for someone some day. I would hope they'd at least announce their presence but I wouldn't count on it.
 
2013-06-10 10:56:47 AM
I wouldn't it's common for an officer to just sit around.  Once it was determined that the house wasn't being broken into I would have left and just merely closed the door behind me. 

nekom: It would be interesting to see what would happen if they found something illegal in such an instance, whether the courts would rule it as inadmissable.  But since that didn't happen, I guess the takeaway here is KEEP YOUR FARKING DOOR CLOSED.


If they did see something illegal they would have had to let it sit and gone and gotten a warrant.  The visual observation of the illegal whatever would be PC for the warrant.  Homes almost always need warrants unless it's hot pursuit or something really bad is happening and someone is going to die.
 
2013-06-10 10:57:33 AM

abhorrent1: So what if your door is open and you are home and just in another part of the house? just randomly waking into someones house could end badly for someone some day. I would hope they'd at least announce their presence but I wouldn't count on it.


They specifically noted that they knock/ring first, then announce when they enter.
 
2013-06-10 10:58:32 AM

nekom: It would be interesting to see what would happen if they found something illegal in such an instance, whether the courts would rule it as inadmissable.  But since that didn't happen, I guess the takeaway here is KEEP YOUR FARKING DOOR CLOSED.


If they were to see something they would have to get a warrant to use it.  However, the visual observation would be enough PC to obtain a warrant.
 
2013-06-10 10:59:13 AM
Did you know the Boulder PD has a Witches Squad?

/true story
//denver pd did it first
///for the witch wars in the steam tunnels under downtown
////1970s
 
2013-06-10 10:59:52 AM

Flint Ironstag: LasersHurt: Abandoned houses are usually denoted by unsecured doors or windows, and abandoned houses are targets for all kinds of shiat.

I think that 40 minutes isn't very long, but what if the patrol came through every day, and she walked the dog every day at the same time? To him, it's been open for a week when he makes the call for the other officer to stop in.

This just doesn't feel that outlandish to me. Though I am buying a house next to an abandoned house, so I've familiarized myself lately.

How would the cop know there was no one in the house?  If you see a house with an open door leading to the deck wouldn't it be logical to assume there are people at home?


They might start by...I don't know...ringing the door bell, knocking on the door, yelling "Hey!  Anyone home?"  Crazy complex police shiat you know?
 
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