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(Gothamist)   Panhandler sued city, and spent most of the judgment money he received on Chinese takeout, drugs, and gifts to his friends and family....the rest he just wasted   (gothamist.com) divider line 139
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2013-06-09 10:15:33 PM  
Not unexpected.
 
2013-06-09 10:21:21 PM  
Haha keep living the dream panhandler dude.
 
2013-06-09 10:27:04 PM  
There are three types of homeless.

1. Sick.  Mental, physical, etc.
2. Unlucky.  Lost his job, then his home and everything else.  Once you cross that homeless line, it's hard to get back into regular society.  I almost fell into this category once.  I got a job just in time to pay my rent.
3. Idiots who deserve it.  The lazy, the drunks, the druggies, and people with the money management skills of a teenage girl at the mall.
 
2013-06-09 10:27:11 PM  
"Eddie was a good man," Wise's widow, Sharon Persaud, said. "He worked hard; he was always cheerful. I loved that man so much. It was always me and him. He deserved better. His life was hard."

On what merit?
 
2013-06-09 10:27:30 PM  
I usually don't like to be the guy who questions tag, but, why the cool tag? This isn't cool, it's sad from start to finish.

/Obvious tag would've sufficed too, but not Cool
 
2013-06-09 10:27:42 PM  
"He was a good man..."

A crackhead, cocaine addict, panhandler, and shiftless layabout, but a good man.
 
2013-06-09 10:28:25 PM  
Another shining example that handing money to 'disadvantaged' people simply does not work.
 
2013-06-09 10:31:22 PM  
www.beyond-karma.com ? Yeah, www.beyond-karma.com
 
2013-06-09 10:31:37 PM  
aerojockey: but, why the cool tag?
Because his body temperature has dropped to ambient
 
2013-06-09 10:32:41 PM  
images.tvrage.com
 
2013-06-09 10:35:17 PM  
fark you Farkers. Life's hard, and Eddie did what he could. He didn't live to your expectations, but why would he?

::raises a glass in toast::

Here's to you, Eddie Wise. This world is no good, but I hope you found a bit of happiness now and again.
 
2013-06-09 10:36:20 PM  

Mashaka: fark you Farkers. Life's hard, and Eddie did what he could. He didn't live to your expectations, but why would he?

::raises a glass in toast::

Here's to you, Eddie Wise. This world is no good, but I hope you found a bit of happiness now and again.


I'm sure he's looking up at you and smiling
 
2013-06-09 10:36:25 PM  

aerojockey: I usually don't like to be the guy who questions tag, but, why the cool tag? This isn't cool, it's sad from start to finish.

/Obvious tag would've sufficed too, but not Cool


=============

Eddie did it his way......cool.
 
2013-06-09 10:41:41 PM  
So wait, did he actually make her strip or did he just tell her to strip?  The article does not actually say that the girl actually stripped.

/Not condoning.
 
2013-06-09 10:41:58 PM  

Mashaka: Life's hard, and Eddie did what he could. He didn't live to your expectations, but why would he?


Eddie chose a hard life, even when he was handed an opportunity to change his circumstances.  Am I supposed to feel sorry for him?
 
2013-06-09 10:44:29 PM  

aerojockey: I usually don't like to be the guy who questions tag, but, why the cool tag?


Because now there's one less chance for you to get panhandled in NYC?
 
2013-06-09 10:44:45 PM  

skwerl: Another shining example that handing money to 'disadvantaged' people simply does not work.


Giving large sums of money to a lot of folks does them no good.

Watched a lot of "regular, normal people" piss away large sums of money. Has nothing to do with how advantaged or disadvantaged a person might be.
 
2013-06-09 10:51:47 PM  

GoldSpider: Mashaka: Life's hard, and Eddie did what he could. He didn't live to your expectations, but why would he?

Eddie chose a hard life, even when he was handed an opportunity to change his circumstances.  Am I supposed to feel sorry for him?


Yes, you are. He was a severely impoverished addict. How can you  not feel sorry for him? Folks here are mocking a guy who has lived since 2006 on 14k/year minus taxes and lawyer's fees. What was he supposed to do? Get housing and food in New York City while starting a small business, while struggling against a serious addition, right at the onset of a recession, off of a few thousand bucks a year?
 
2013-06-09 10:52:28 PM  
I'm not sure how outraged I am supposed to be about this.

Eddie was a victim of his addiction. He didn't deserve to be treated badly by the police, and the judgment in his favor bears that out.

I guess you guys can all go spit on his grave now that he's gone. It sure seems like you libs are the least compassionate people towards your fellow man.
 
2013-06-09 10:54:16 PM  

A Terrible Human: Haha keep living the dream panhandler dude.


You realize he's dead, right?
 
2013-06-09 10:56:04 PM  

Mashaka: What was he supposed to do? Get housing and food in New York City while starting a small business, while struggling against a serious addition, right at the onset of a recession, off of a few thousand bucks a year?


Right, that was his only option aside from "keep smoking crack".
 
2013-06-09 10:57:23 PM  

Mashaka: GoldSpider: Mashaka: Life's hard, and Eddie did what he could. He didn't live to your expectations, but why would he?

Eddie chose a hard life, even when he was handed an opportunity to change his circumstances.  Am I supposed to feel sorry for him?

Yes, you are. He was a severely impoverished addict. How can you  not feel sorry for him? Folks here are mocking a guy who has lived since 2006 on 14k/year minus taxes and lawyer's fees. What was he supposed to do? Get housing and food in New York City while starting a small business, while struggling against a serious addition, right at the onset of a recession, off of a few thousand bucks a year?


Yeah I definitely wouldn't know what to do with all that FREE MONEY and FREE TIME. I wouldn't dare, you know, rent an apartment in the suburbs, STOP DOING COCAINE and GET A JOB.
 
2013-06-09 10:57:57 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I'm not sure how outraged I am supposed to be about this.

Eddie was a victim of his addiction. He didn't deserve to be treated badly by the police, and the judgment in his favor bears that out.

I guess you guys can all go spit on his grave now that he's gone. It sure seems like you libs are the least compassionate people towards your fellow man.


Phew. I was afraid I might be alone here.
 
2013-06-09 10:58:46 PM  
I wouldn't say that $100K would be enough to get out of a hole like the one I am in. I can only imagine what kind of hole he was in.

Then again, $100K would get a man though college debt-free, which is really something.
 
2013-06-09 11:00:14 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I'm not sure how outraged I am supposed to be about this.

Eddie was a victim of his addiction. He didn't deserve to be treated badly by the police, and the judgment in his favor bears that out.

I guess you guys can all go spit on his grave now that he's gone. It sure seems like you libs are the least compassionate people towards your fellow man.


i75.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-09 11:00:53 PM  

LoneWolf343: I wouldn't say that $100K would be enough to get out of a hole like the one I am in. I can only imagine what kind of hole he was in.


It's the hole he's going to be in that is most relevant at this point.
 
2013-06-09 11:01:13 PM  

LoneWolf343: I wouldn't say that $100K would be enough to get out of a hole like the one I am in. I can only imagine what kind of hole he was in.

Then again, $100K would get a man though college debt-free, which is really something.


$40 of that hundred-grand would put him and his wife on a bus out of farking New York City, for starters.
 
2013-06-09 11:01:22 PM  

GoldSpider: Mashaka: What was he supposed to do? Get housing and food in New York City while starting a small business, while struggling against a serious addition, right at the onset of a recession, off of a few thousand bucks a year?

Right, that was his only option aside from "keep smoking crack".


This goes to the comment below yours, too: it's a farking addition. This is a very real, very serious thing. I trust that I don't need to link you to wikipedia to discover the wealth of information about how addiction affects people.
 
2013-06-09 11:01:38 PM  

Mashaka: AverageAmericanGuy: I'm not sure how outraged I am supposed to be about this.

Eddie was a victim of his addiction. He didn't deserve to be treated badly by the police, and the judgment in his favor bears that out.

I guess you guys can all go spit on his grave now that he's gone. It sure seems like you libs are the least compassionate people towards your fellow man.

Phew. I was afraid I might be alone here.


Any chance to step on the less fortunate, I suppose.
 
2013-06-09 11:02:31 PM  

moothemagiccow: Mashaka: GoldSpider: Mashaka: Life's hard, and Eddie did what he could. He didn't live to your expectations, but why would he?

Eddie chose a hard life, even when he was handed an opportunity to change his circumstances.  Am I supposed to feel sorry for him?

Yes, you are. He was a severely impoverished addict. How can you  not feel sorry for him? Folks here are mocking a guy who has lived since 2006 on 14k/year minus taxes and lawyer's fees. What was he supposed to do? Get housing and food in New York City while starting a small business, while struggling against a serious addition, right at the onset of a recession, off of a few thousand bucks a year?

Yeah I definitely wouldn't know what to do with all that FREE MONEY and FREE TIME. I wouldn't dare, you know, rent an apartment in the suburbs, STOP DOING COCAINE and GET A JOB.


Dumping all your previous druggie friends would be the first place to start... Moving to another city was his best idea...
 
2013-06-09 11:02:35 PM  
theres a farking song in here feadweights?
 
2013-06-09 11:02:44 PM  

LoneWolf343: I wouldn't say that $100K would be enough to get out of a hole like the one I am in. I can only imagine what kind of hole he was in.


addiction.
 
2013-06-09 11:03:07 PM  

Mock26: So wait, did he actually make her strip or did he just tell her to strip?  The article does not actually say that the girl actually stripped.

/Not condoning.


Oops.  Wrong thread.
 
2013-06-09 11:03:29 PM  

Mock26: So wait, did he actually make her strip or did he just tell her to strip?  The article does not actually say that the girl actually stripped.

/Not condoning.


That thread's thataway.
 
2013-06-09 11:05:14 PM  

Mashaka: I trust that I don't need to link you to wikipedia to discover the wealth of information about how addiction affects people.


People quit drugs all the time. I trust you don't need Wikipedia to tell you that.
 
2013-06-09 11:05:43 PM  

moothemagiccow: A Terrible Human: Haha keep living the dream panhandler dude.

You realize he's dead, right?


No I was just making what some people would call a joke.
 
2013-06-09 11:06:05 PM  

OgreMagi: There are three types of homeless.

1. Sick.  Mental, physical, etc.
2. Unlucky.  Lost his job, then his home and everything else.  Once you cross that homeless line, it's hard to get back into regular society.  I almost fell into this category once.  I got a job just in time to pay my rent.
3. Idiots who deserve it.  The lazy, the drunks, the druggies, and people with the money management skills of a teenage girl at the mall.


Arguably group 3 is a subset of group 1.  The difference between, say a schizophrenic and that lovely combination of psych problems that we in the internet scientist community call "too much of a fark-up to handle money or stay off drugs" (that's a really technical term there) is mostly philosophical.

But forming an institution that could take care of such people by denying them their freedoms and permanently institutionalizing them for moral laxity or Nerve Stapling the Red Drones raises its own problems.  Quite the conundrum.
 
2013-06-09 11:06:39 PM  

Mashaka: GoldSpider: Mashaka: Life's hard, and Eddie did what he could. He didn't live to your expectations, but why would he?

Eddie chose a hard life, even when he was handed an opportunity to change his circumstances.  Am I supposed to feel sorry for him?

Yes, you are. He was a severely impoverished addict. How can you  not feel sorry for him? Folks here are mocking a guy who has lived since 2006 on 14k/year minus taxes and lawyer's fees. What was he supposed to do? Get housing and food in New York City while starting a small business, while struggling against a serious addition, right at the onset of a recession, off of a few thousand bucks a year?


Managing his money and not pissing it away would have been a step in the right direction. Why is that so hard for people to understand?

If you have so little why waste what you have? You don't acquire money by wasting it.
 
2013-06-09 11:07:12 PM  
Dying broke is how it should be, living broke is the part that sucks.
 
2013-06-09 11:08:52 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Any chance to step on the less fortunate, I suppose.


I have a hard time referring to anyone on the receiving end of a $100k windfall as "less fortunate".

Mashaka: This goes to the comment below yours, too: it's a farking addition. This is a very real, very serious thing. I trust that I don't need to link you to wikipedia to discover the wealth of information about how addiction affects people.


To be fair, I'm curious to know the circumstances that led up to him becoming a panhandler, and what offers of assistance he declined on his way down.
 
2013-06-09 11:09:09 PM  

GoldSpider: LoneWolf343: I wouldn't say that $100K would be enough to get out of a hole like the one I am in. I can only imagine what kind of hole he was in.

Then again, $100K would get a man though college debt-free, which is really something.

$40 of that hundred-grand would put him and his wife on a bus out of farking New York City, for starters.


Patton Oswalt had a bit about that.
 
2013-06-09 11:10:26 PM  
Wow, a whole $100k.
 
2013-06-09 11:17:10 PM  
That's just silly.

You could kill the  average crack head with $1000 and save the public tens of thousands in other services.
 
2013-06-09 11:17:17 PM  

sethen320: Managing his money and not pissing it away would have been a step in the right direction. Why is that so hard for people to understand?

If you have so little why waste what you have? You don't acquire money by wasting it.


There aren't a lot of CFPs hanging out in the ghetto.
 
2013-06-09 11:18:02 PM  

Mashaka: GoldSpider: Mashaka: Life's hard, and Eddie did what he could. He didn't live to your expectations, but why would he?

Eddie chose a hard life, even when he was handed an opportunity to change his circumstances.  Am I supposed to feel sorry for him?

Yes, you are. He was a severely impoverished addict. How can you  not feel sorry for him? Folks here are mocking a guy who has lived since 2006 on 14k/year minus taxes and lawyer's fees. What was he supposed to do? Get housing and food in New York City while starting a small business, while struggling against a serious addition, right at the onset of a recession, off of a few thousand bucks a year?



100 grand is a huge sum of money to most people.  With that he could have made a real start for himself.  Nope, instead he blew it on crack.  A lot of people struggle with addiction, and a lot of people are able to overcome it.  He chose not to.  I don't want to stomp on his grave, but I don't pity him either.  It sounds like he had many chances to change his life, and he couldn't do it.  That's not bad luck, it's bad decisions.
 
2013-06-09 11:24:37 PM  
We can solve the homeless problem for a mere $100K each, one time?  I'm in!
 
2013-06-09 11:29:44 PM  
Nofun:

100 grand is a huge sum of money to most people.  With that he could have made a real start for himself.  Nope, instead he blew it on crack.  A lot of people struggle with addiction, and a lot of people are able to overcome it.  He chose not to.  I don't want to stomp on his grave, but I don't pity him either.  It sounds like he had many chances to change his life, and he couldn't do it.  That's not bad luck, it's bad decisions.

So he just decided to be an addict, or to keep being an addict? That's the theory, here? An addiction is something you decide to keep around or not? Something you shrug off like a winter coat when spring comes?

I suppose there's no need for AA or NA, or for addiction-recovery health professionals now, given this revolutionary discovery of yours. All we have to do is tell addicts, "Hey, just decide you don't want to be an addict anymore, and suddenly you won't be an addict anymore." Done in one.

'Nofun', of Fark fame, is the greatest physician of our generation.

I'll give the intro to your Nobel Prize acceptance speech.
 
2013-06-09 11:30:54 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: We can solve the homeless problem for a mere $100K each, one time?  I'm in!


Career panhandlers don't want you to help them, they just want your money.
 
2013-06-09 11:31:43 PM  

GoldSpider: sethen320: Managing his money and not pissing it away would have been a step in the right direction. Why is that so hard for people to understand?

If you have so little why waste what you have? You don't acquire money by wasting it.

There aren't a lot of CFPs hanging out in the ghetto.


Really?  Knowing not to spending $10 on stupid shiat when you only have $10 and no job doesn't really require a degree.
 
2013-06-09 11:36:11 PM  

sethen320: Really? Knowing not to spending $10 on stupid shiat when you only have $10 and no job doesn't really require a degree.


I'm sure addiction has a predictable impact on one's spending priorities.  That aside, it's easy to be careless and stupid with money.  I didn't start a household budget for myself until a few years ago.  People don't have an innate ability to manage money; it's a learned skill.
 
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