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(Guardian)   Introducing Boundless Informant: The Great Snitch Database of America where your cell phones, computers all snitch on you to the government   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 204
    More: Asinine, NSA, United States, cell phones, public switched telephone network, heat map, signals intelligences, Ron Wyden, computers  
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2013-06-09 09:18:23 PM  
Funny how even NSA internal websites look like every other goddamn corporate application.
 
2013-06-09 09:24:56 PM  

ThatGuyGreg: Funny how even NSA internal websites look like every other goddamn corporate application.


Considering how many Americans believe that the government should be run just like a business, I'd say their dream has finally come true.
 
2013-06-09 09:35:24 PM  
Government is too large.  When people warned of government getting too big, this is what they were warning about.
 
2013-06-09 09:51:50 PM  

SlothB77: When people warned of government getting too big, this is what they were warning about.


This program is actually pretty small. It's not the size that matters, it's how you use it.
 
2013-06-09 10:11:18 PM  
So, are we at the point where we pretend that only the us government does this sort of thing?
 
2013-06-09 10:14:06 PM  

t3knomanser: SlothB77: When people warned of government getting too big, this is what they were warning about.

This program is actually pretty small. It's not the size that matters, it's how you use it.


That's what she said.
 
2013-06-09 10:57:20 PM  
Blow it all up. Call the Air Force, tell them to location, and make sure they send in the marines with extra boom when the fly boys is done. I don't want any 1s and 0s left intact on any hard drives.

As a conciliatory measure, we convict the lawmakers who allowed to come to pass of high treason, but commute the sentence on the grounds they can never again hold public office.
 
2013-06-09 11:00:30 PM  

fusillade762: t3knomanser: SlothB77: When people warned of government getting too big, this is what they were warning about.

This program is actually pretty small. It's not the size that matters, it's how you use it.

That's what she said,

sympathetically, before turning over to the other side of the bed and crying into her pillow.
 
2013-06-10 12:01:39 AM  

SlothB77: Government is too large.  When people warned of government getting too big, this is what they were warning about.


http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1740767
 
2013-06-10 12:23:38 AM  
Calling it BoundlessInformant is just icing on the cake. Goddamn.
 
2013-06-10 12:25:33 AM  

Mangoose: So, are we at the point where we pretend that only the us government does this sort of thing?


As an apologist are you playing "how low will you go?"
 
2013-06-10 12:25:43 AM  
What happens in Vegas ... stays in Utah ...
 
2013-06-10 12:27:53 AM  
*RTFA's*
Shiat.
 
2013-06-10 12:28:04 AM  
Do you mean to say that the government is looking in my underwear drawer? That they're counting my underwear, and making note of which ones are still in good condition? 'Cause, really, there are some in there that I'm just going to throw away.
 
2013-06-10 12:29:15 AM  
So is the government going to fill up my e-mail and Facebook page with useless crap, and cover every website I visit full of pop-up ads culled from my "interests"?
 
2013-06-10 12:31:34 AM  
CSB
I consulted for a startup that was cross-referencing telecom call records (not the actual conversation) to one of the large credit databases.  As you drove or walked past a cell tower, we knew your credit score.  I hinted this factoid on Fark about a year ago and was laughed off as "paranoid."   As most of you suspect anyway, your location, your MAC address and buying power are monitored, even if you are not talking or texting as your device periodically broadcasts "here I am!".  Don't like it?  Turn off your smartphone.
/CSB
 
2013-06-10 12:32:55 AM  
No wonder this administration has prosecuted more leakers than all others combined.

Investigative journalism of the US government's actions cannot now safely be conducted by anyone living in the US. If you criticize the government by revealing an illegal or immoral action by it, you'd better have your political asylum paperwork in hand and in order. Future Martin Luther Kings and Daniel Ellsbergs will not survive here.

Republicans did not do this. Democrats did not do this. Bankrupt avaricious plutocrats and their techno-enforcer lapdogs did this. And now that the infrastructure has been built, good luck dismantling it.

/J. Edgar Hoover just had an orgasm from beyond the grave
 
2013-06-10 12:33:35 AM  

Old enough to know better: So is the government going to fill up my e-mail and Facebook page with useless crap, and cover every website I visit full of pop-up ads culled from my "interests"?


I had much the same thought. Actually, I'm wondering how long the government will keep that info to themselves. Sooner or later it will get sold: either legally through legislation, or illegally from a bent federal employee looking to make a buck.
 
2013-06-10 12:37:21 AM  
I'm boring.

So the government has that going for it. An by going for it, I mean not going for it. Yay for bigger haystack to sort through. I thought we were supposed to be finding bad guys?

Total Information Awareness is alive after all...
 
2013-06-10 12:41:58 AM  

Clemkadidlefark: What happens in Vegas ... stays in Utah ...


I'm using that.
 
2013-06-10 12:43:25 AM  

Hector Remarkable: Do you mean to say that the government is looking in my underwear drawer? That they're counting my underwear, and making note of which ones are still in good condition? 'Cause, really, there are some in there that I'm just going to throw away.


Can you please start a web cam site called "myundiedrawercam.com?" We can follow your status on the state of your undies 24x7.
 
2013-06-10 12:44:07 AM  
How the fark did you assholes THINK we were tracking down all those Al Qaeda #2's that we killed?

This is what you asked for, America.  This is what being tough on crime and protecting American interests looks like.
 
2013-06-10 12:44:08 AM  
StopLurkListen
I'm boring.

And now that they know everything about you, you'd better be sure you stay that way, unless you want one of your boring pecadillos outed. Or are you the one human being on Earth with absolutely nothing to hide, nothing that could embarrass you or be used against you, with no weaknesses or sensitivities or predispositions which could be manipulated to set you up for a fall? If so: it's an honor to meet you Mr. Kent, I'm a big fan of your work at The Daily Planet.

But your idea of a bigger haystack is a valuable one. It's time we leveraged the sensitivity of their sensor network to destroy it: sophisticated and pervasive jamming should be developed and deployed ASAP.
 
2013-06-10 12:44:19 AM  
Damn. The gov knows what I jerk off to and how bad my taste in music are!

Maybe I'll get offered a job for all the hard Obama-shilling I've been accused of lately.
 
2013-06-10 12:44:59 AM  
poot_rootbeer
This is what you asked for, America.

You know the apologists are desperate when they start sounding like abusive spouses.
 
2013-06-10 12:45:14 AM  
"Forward comrades! Forward for... Animal Farm!"

i39.tinypic.com
 
2013-06-10 12:49:56 AM  
In other news, the Guardian is cruising for a cruise missile at this rate.

Begun, the information wars have.
 
2013-06-10 12:50:04 AM  
Five thousand servers devoted to tracking calls to Arabic and Pashto speaking countries and a total of 12 analyst with Arabic or Pashto language experience.
 
2013-06-10 12:54:00 AM  
I guess you need another tragedy to feel afraid again.  When you were all pissing your pants over 9/11 you were sucking up to big brother and giving him whatever he wanted.
 
2013-06-10 12:54:14 AM  
i.imgur.com
... sees what you did there. All of it.
 
2013-06-10 12:54:24 AM  
Man, I thought we were gonna have flying cars and bases on the Moon and Mars in the future.

Instead we have this bullcrap. A bunch of batin' perves watching, listening, and reading everything about us over today's personal technology.

/I want a portal to the 1990's, please
 
2013-06-10 12:54:27 AM  

Clemkadidlefark: What happens in Vegas ... stays in Utah ...


I'm not going to worry about this pile of data until the government buys a casino for its data mining abilities.
 
2013-06-10 12:54:51 AM  

mrexcess: StopLurkListen
I'm boring.

And now that they know everything about you, you'd better be sure you stay that way, unless you want one of your boring pecadillos outed. Or are you the one human being on Earth with absolutely nothing to hide, nothing that could embarrass you or be used against you, with no weaknesses or sensitivities or predispositions which could be manipulated to set you up for a fall? If so: it's an honor to meet you Mr. Kent, I'm a big fan of your work at The Daily Planet.

But your idea of a bigger haystack is a valuable one. It's time we leveraged the sensitivity of their sensor network to destroy it: sophisticated and pervasive jamming should be developed and deployed ASAP.


This reminds me of the Malcolm In The Middle episode where his new 'genius' teacher pits the students against each other for academic ranking, and Malcolm figures out there's no way to beat the system... he figures out how to break it.

I like.
 
2013-06-10 12:55:53 AM  

mrexcess: StopLurkListen
I'm boring.

And now that they know everything about you, you'd better be sure you stay that way, unless you want one of your boring pecadillos outed. Or are you the one human being on Earth with absolutely nothing to hide, nothing that could embarrass you or be used against you, with no weaknesses or sensitivities or predispositions which could be manipulated to set you up for a fall? If so: it's an honor to meet you Mr. Kent, I'm a big fan of your work at The Daily Planet.

But your idea of a bigger haystack is a valuable one. It's time we leveraged the sensitivity of their sensor network to destroy it: sophisticated and pervasive jamming should be developed and deployed ASAP.


Yes, all my nefarious and questionable communication is buried within uncompressed 1080p HD video. Thanks Flickr, for your 1TB free storage!
 
2013-06-10 12:56:27 AM  
"One document says it is designed to give NSA officials answers to questions like, "What type of coverage do we have on country X" in "near real-time."

So that's what they meant with 'Can you hear me now? Good!'
 
2013-06-10 12:58:47 AM  

rkiller1: As most of you suspect anyway, your location, your MAC address and buying power are monitored, even if you are not talking or texting as your device periodically broadcasts "here I am!".  Don't like it?  Turn off your smartphone.


What phone?   ...Seriously, I never understood the interest in a phone that would follow you everywhere - who the fark wants to have people interrupting you wherever you go?
 
2013-06-10 12:59:04 AM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-06-10 12:59:11 AM  
I really don't like this public disclosure of sources and methods.
 
2013-06-10 01:00:04 AM  
This is becoming boring in the sense that we now know that government surveillance is worse than expected. It's time to go to the next step of what will our elected officials do about it. The Guardian can post updates every hour, but it means nothing if we maintain the status quo.
 
2013-06-10 01:00:22 AM  

ladyfortuna: This reminds me of the Malcolm In The Middle episode where his new 'genius' teacher pits the students against each other for academic ranking, and Malcolm figures out there's no way to beat the system... he figures out how to break it.

I like.


You know that was an intentional direct spoof of Ender's Game, right?
 
2013-06-10 01:00:57 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-10 01:02:13 AM  

StopLurkListen: I'm boring.

So the government has that going for it. An by going for it, I mean not going for it. Yay for bigger haystack to sort through. I thought we were supposed to be finding bad guys?

Total Information Awareness is alive after all...


I can remember thinking "cookies? This isn't going to end well." So who has a newsletter on vpn's and proxy servers and using cash to buy disposable phones?

/I'm boring too
//and willing to make them work for my boringness.
 
2013-06-10 01:03:01 AM  

skinink: It's time to go to the next step of what will our elected officials do about it.


I'll wager that your elected officials will continue to say:
i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-10 01:03:06 AM  
If Obama isn't frogmarched up the river under the bus between a rock and a hard place for this, then something is seriously wrong with my copy of the Dictionary of American Slang
 
2013-06-10 01:05:28 AM  

Mangoose: So, are we at the point where we pretend that only the us government does this sort of thing?


Not just that, it's also only been going on since Obama took office.
 
2013-06-10 01:05:29 AM  

2farknfunny: StopLurkListen: I'm boring.

So the government has that going for it. An by going for it, I mean not going for it. Yay for bigger haystack to sort through. I thought we were supposed to be finding bad guys?

Total Information Awareness is alive after all...

I can remember thinking "cookies? This isn't going to end well." So who has a newsletter on vpn's and proxy servers and using cash to buy disposable phones?

/I'm boring too
//and willing to make them work for my boringness.


Last I heard, you can no longer purchase disposable phones without presenting some form of ID.
 
2013-06-10 01:05:34 AM  
This stuff has been going on since the dawn of the internet, and may in fact be why DARPA gave us all the internet in the first place. Check out Project Carnivore. Most places online will say it was only used on specific criminals, but everyone should know by now that is a worn out lie. They could just refuse any of this information be made public 'for reasons of national security' like they've done in the past. Suspect the reason they're being more open about it all now is because they want to try and make us comfortable with it, which is, unsettling. The usage will go from covert to more overt and aggressive.

rkiller1: I consulted for a startup that was cross-referencing telecom call records (not the actual conversation) to one of the large credit databases. As you drove or walked past a cell tower, we knew your credit score. I hinted this factoid on Fark about a year ago and was laughed off as "paranoid." As most of you suspect anyway, your location, your MAC address and buying power are monitored, even if you are not talking or texting as your device periodically broadcasts "here I am!". Don't like it? Turn off your smartphone.


They go from insulting and mocking someone for claiming something, to pretending they knew all along when they find out it's true.
 
2013-06-10 01:05:59 AM  
"NSA has consistently reported - including to Congress - that we do not have the ability to determine with certainty the identity or location of all communicants within a given communication. That remains the case."

fark you ya pedantic prick
 
2013-06-10 01:06:33 AM  

skinink: It's time to go to the next step of what will our elected officials do about it.


Umm...they voted for it, and the oversight committees and FISA court are informed and approving it.
 
2013-06-10 01:09:42 AM  
So, the NSA knows I've watched this video a few hundred times in the last few weeks? I hope some of them like Estonian punk/ska/metal is as much as I do!  http://youtu.be/gLlUXlE5ULc
 
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