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(Al Jazeera)   Muslim group holds tolerance forum in Tennessee to promote dialog and increase trust. Which was a good idea... until Islamophobes decided to bus people in to "protest"   (stream.aljazeera.com) divider line 483
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2013-06-09 10:46:47 AM  
from the tennessean article linked:

Protester Larry McIntosh, 54, of Manchester, said he was skeptical of Killian and Moore.
"I feel like (these) men are attempting to intimidate people with the freedom of speech and that bothers me," he said. "I would like to say that Muslims have a right to live here and worship freely, but I do not think they have the right to change American law to fit Sharia law. Violence no matter where it comes from bothers me."
Former "Saturday Night Live" star Victoria Jackson was among the protesters.


there aren't enough facepalms in the world...
 
2013-06-09 10:48:46 AM  
"trying to intimidate people with the freedom of speech"

WTF does that even mean?
 
2013-06-09 10:50:46 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: "trying to intimidate people with the freedom of speech"

WTF does that even mean?


it means freedom of speech is only ok if you're a white christian.
 
2013-06-09 10:53:25 AM  

FlashHarry: cameroncrazy1984: "trying to intimidate people with the freedom of speech"

WTF does that even mean?

it means freedom of speech is only ok if you're a white christian.


Oh. And also that white christians are easily intimidated, I think.
 
2013-06-09 11:01:41 AM  
I'm increasingly glad that I didn't talk to many people the entire time I lived in Tennessee.  And it's such a pretty place, in many ways.
 
2013-06-09 11:10:42 AM  
as I collected peoples questions on index cards, a man in the audience behind me says, "watch out, she might blow up!" and everyone laughed.

A little humor might help break the ice.  As most sane individuals in the crowd realized, nobody was going to blow up and most laughed about it.  Those not laughing were the ones being laughed at.

Oh, and I really like this pic:

proxy.storify.com

/but wait!  Is that one chick flashing Muslim gang symbols?!
//or does she not know the proper hand configuration for the shocker?
 
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2013-06-09 11:32:55 AM  
I can see them protesting tolerance.
 
2013-06-09 11:47:24 AM  
Tolerance for me, but not for thee?
 
2013-06-09 12:14:42 PM  
Calling them Islamophobes means you're really the bigot, bigotmitter

/sounds legit
 
2013-06-09 01:34:20 PM  
Paging General Sherman. General Sherman to the courtesy phone please.
 
2013-06-09 01:36:25 PM  
"Kasar Abdulla, a board member of AMAC and a community activist, was present at the event and shared her experiences with The Stream. She said that when one of the speakers mentioned a Tennessee mosque which had been <a target="_blank" data-cke-saved-href="http://www.newschannel5.com/story/9287317/2-plead -guilty-in-columbia-m osque-fire-case" class="">firebombed in 2008, many people started cheering and clapping and calling for 'all mosques' to meet the same fate. "

fark these people.  No, really.  farking die you valueless shiatstains.  You're an embarrassment as Americans, you're a disgrace as human beings.  farking die already.
 
2013-06-09 01:37:42 PM  
What these morons don't get is that they are aiding the worst practioners of Islam with this bullshiat. Crap like this gets thrown up on jihadi websites as proof that Christianity and Islam are at war, and so any attempt at "dialog" is useless.

Of course, it might be that these idiots feel exactly the same way.
 
2013-06-09 01:40:59 PM  
Fear is a very strong emotion.

These Islamaphobes are  scared people who if shown nothing but love could come out of their bigotry mindset
 
2013-06-09 01:52:08 PM  

cman: Fear is a very strong emotion.

These Islamaphobes are  scared people who if shown nothing but love could come out of their bigotry mindset


I would like to hope so, but people like Geller will continue to be hateful bigots no matter how they are treated.  For her, I don't even think it's Muslims,  per se.  I think she's just addicted to hate.
 
2013-06-09 02:18:10 PM  
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2013-06-09 02:33:38 PM  
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2013-06-09 02:38:38 PM  

born_yesterday: "Kasar Abdulla, a board member of AMAC and a community activist, was present at the event and shared her experiences with The Stream. She said that when one of the speakers mentioned a Tennessee mosque which had been <a target="_blank" data-cke-saved-href="http://www.newschannel5.com/story/9287317/2-plead -guilty-in-columbia-m osque-fire-case" class="">firebombed in 2008, many people started cheering and clapping and calling for 'all mosques' to meet the same fate. "

fark these people.  No, really.  farking die you valueless shiatstains.  You're an embarrassment as Americans, you're a disgrace as human beings.  farking die already.


Hatred feeds on other hatred in a recursive loop. Psycho Islamists and psycho evangelicals need each other to flourish.
 
2013-06-09 02:45:51 PM  

born_yesterday: fark these people. No, really. farking die you valueless shiatstains. You're an embarrassment as Americans, you're a disgrace as human beings. farking die already.


Tolerance, how does it work?
 
2013-06-09 02:47:20 PM  
So these people came armed with their Constitutions in hand?

How interesting they focus on the first amendment free speech thing but aren't so worried about the first amendment freedom of religion thing.

/probably how they read their bibles too.
 
2013-06-09 02:47:23 PM  
so, lots of jittery hateful white christians whargarbling their derp opinions then
 
2013-06-09 02:47:35 PM  
The protesters were handing out t-shirts referencing the 1st amendment? Did they even read their shirts?

/WTF?
 
2013-06-09 02:49:16 PM  
I think they have a point. The FBI sponsored this event. That's basically the government endorsing Islam over traditional Merican Christianity. That's worriaome of nothing else, and now the authorities know that pulling a stunt like this wont go unchallenged.
 
2013-06-09 02:49:29 PM  
How Christian of them to hate anyone who is not white and Christian.
 
2013-06-09 02:52:21 PM  
Right, because wanting a bill that would ban Sharia law makes them "Islamophobic."

Fact is, these are concerned citizens. Islam should be treated the same as fascism or communism because it is, like it or not, a politically ideology. But it's also a lifestyle and a culture that conflicts with our own. Look to Europe. The answers are concrete.

Also, Islamophobia was coined by "CAIR" which has backed the terrorist group Hamas. CAIR was against the banning of Sharia law. Because wanting to be against genital mutilation and honour killings is sooooo wrong.

Farking Mohammad.
 
2013-06-09 02:52:38 PM  
TN - we wont just fark our sister, but our mother and grandma, too....and then go hyuk hyuk hyuk hyuk


/waves flag and carries bible, so I'm ok...
 
2013-06-09 02:53:15 PM  
What you islam apologist don't understand is that there is NO SUCH THING as diversity under
their "rule".  You either convert, or you are beheaded, end of story.
If you love these b*stards that think nothing of flying planes into buildings, beheading people,
strapping bombs on their selves and blowing up innocent women & children, then get on a flipping
boat and MOVE there!  The USA has no "tolerance" for idiots like yourselves.
 
2013-06-09 02:53:56 PM  
behead all islamophobes!!
 
2013-06-09 02:54:14 PM  
Hmm. Stupid redneck farks acting like stupid redneck farks. What a surprise.
 
2013-06-09 02:54:31 PM  

EkimProx: Right, because wanting a bill that would ban Sharia law makes them "Islamophobic."

Fact is, these are concerned citizens. Islam should be treated the same as fascism or communism because it is, like it or not, a politically ideology. But it's also a lifestyle and a culture that conflicts with our own. Look to Europe. The answers are concrete.

Also, Islamophobia was coined by "CAIR" which has backed the terrorist group Hamas. CAIR was against the banning of Sharia law. Because wanting to be against genital mutilation and honour killings is sooooo wrong.

Farking Mohammad.


Ok, let's ban sharia law. I'm down, but you've got to ban all non-secular law too.
 
2013-06-09 02:54:44 PM  
Stupid American bastards.

Muslims would NEVER EVER resort to any kind of violence if trashy Americans didn't incite it.

Just look at the peace in their own regions - they never have any conflicts over there! Its nothing but peace and love.
 
2013-06-09 02:55:40 PM  

willfullyobscure: I think they have a point. The FBI sponsored this event. That's basically the government endorsing Islam over traditional Merican Christianity. That's worriaome of nothing else, and now the authorities know that pulling a stunt like this wont go unchallenged.


LURK MOAR.
 
2013-06-09 02:55:57 PM  
rkiller1: born_yesterday: fark these people. No, really. farking die you valueless shiatstains. You're an embarrassment as Americans, you're a disgrace as human beings. farking die already.

Tolerance, how does it work?


there is no need to tolerate these farktards
 
2013-06-09 02:56:10 PM  
In situations like this, I try really hard to put myself in the shoes of the other side (in this case, the white, older Christians) so I can see things from their viewpoint. Quite often, it'll show me something new that increases my experience and understanding of the world.

That ain't happening here.
 
2013-06-09 02:56:10 PM  
They're Muslims.  They've sat by and said nothing for generations of atrocities.  They should expect to face tremendous opposition for years if not decades.  If they're sincere and honest, they will STFU and keep at it.  Whining about it only serves to show they're nothing but a bunch of scum that needs to be exterminated along with the rest of their terrorist asshole buddies
 
2013-06-09 02:56:21 PM  

p51d007: What you islam apologist don't understand is that there is NO SUCH THING as diversity under
their "rule".  You either convert, or you are beheaded, end of story.
If you love these b*stards that think nothing of flying planes into buildings, beheading people,
strapping bombs on their selves and blowing up innocent women & children, then get on a flipping
boat and MOVE there!  The USA has no "tolerance" for idiots like yourselves.


LURK MOAR.
 
2013-06-09 02:56:50 PM  

HighZoolander: The protesters were handing out t-shirts referencing the 1st amendment? Did they even read their shirts?


i105.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-09 02:56:59 PM  

I Like Shiny Things: Stupid American bastards.

Muslims would NEVER EVER resort to any kind of violence if trashy Americans didn't incite it.

Just look at the peace in their own regions - they never have any conflicts over there! Its nothing but peace and love.


LURK MOAR.
 
2013-06-09 02:57:20 PM  
Good to read that hate-mongerers for pay Robert Spencer, whose church is headquartered in Damascus, Syria, and Pam Geller, who would be insulted to be called christian, are behind this farce. Wonder how may FBI informants are among those protesters, since Geller's UK counterparts now can't enter the US - - some sort of terrorist concern.
 
2013-06-09 02:57:27 PM  

rkiller1: born_yesterday: fark these people. No, really. farking die you valueless shiatstains. You're an embarrassment as Americans, you're a disgrace as human beings. farking die already.

Tolerance, how does it work?


Intolerance of intolerance is not lack of tolerance. Tolerating intolerance is the far greater crime. Allowing those who hate to feel that they have anything legitimate to add is detrimental to society. They need to know that there is no room for their views in today's public spaces.
 
2013-06-09 02:57:40 PM  

FlashHarry: from the tennessean article linked:

Protester Larry McIntosh, 54, of Manchester, said he was skeptical of Killian and Moore.
"I feel like (these) men are attempting to intimidate people with the freedom of speech and that bothers me," he said. "I would like to say that Muslims have a right to live here and worship freely, but I do not think they have the right to change American law to fit Sharia law. Violence no matter where it comes from bothers me."
Former "Saturday Night Live" star Victoria Jackson was among the protesters.

there aren't enough facepalms in the world...


Where are they getting the idea that Muslims are trying to change Americana law into Sharia law? I am genuinely perplexed & I don't understand.
 
2013-06-09 02:57:43 PM  

rkiller1: born_yesterday: fark these people. No, really. farking die you valueless shiatstains. You're an embarrassment as Americans, you're a disgrace as human beings. farking die already.

Tolerance, how does it work?


Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. [...] We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant.  -Karl Popper
 
2013-06-09 02:57:48 PM  

EkimProx: Right, because wanting a bill that would ban Sharia law makes them "Islamophobic."

Fact is, these are concerned citizens. Islam should be treated the same as fascism or communism because it is, like it or not, a politically ideology. But it's also a lifestyle and a culture that conflicts with our own. Look to Europe. The answers are concrete.

Also, Islamophobia was coined by "CAIR" which has backed the terrorist group Hamas. CAIR was against the banning of Sharia law. Because wanting to be against genital mutilation and honour killings is sooooo wrong.

Farking Mohammad.


LURK MOAR.
 
2013-06-09 02:58:17 PM  

And the counterpoint:

According to Geller, who helped organize the protest that had hundreds more people outside the building:

U.S. Attorney Bill Killian gave a power point presentation on hate crimes and hate speech. From beginning to end it was full of condescension, smears, charges that the crowd was racist, and thinly-veiled threats that truthful speech about Islam could be prosecuted. Never once did he address the fact that people aren't concerned about Muslims because of racism and xenophobia, but because of the reality of jihad terror and the uniform denial and obfuscation, and victimhood posturing, that follows from Muslim communities after every jihad attack. Killian even stooped so low as to claim a sharp rise in "religiously-motivated hate crimes," without ever informing the crowd that he was lumping in anti-Semitic hate crimes (which are at worldwide record levels, largely due to Islamic antisemitism) with anti-Muslim hate crimes. FBI special agent Kenneth Moore was little better. Both echoed the Islamic supremacist speaker's opening remarks, all about how the people of Tennessee had to learn to be welcoming of people who were different.The crowd was having none of it, shouting "Boston!" "Free Speech!" and other responses after they would say something entirely ridiculous. A couple of people in the crowd got up and called out to the patriots to be quiet and let the speakers speak, and to be respectful, but the crowd was being just as respectful to Killian, Moore and Co. as the speakers were to them. It was good to see their condescending anti-freedom propaganda challenged. The speakers were only accepting questions written on cards, and people knew it was a horse and pony show. We are not going to go quietly into the night, or remain silent when we are lied to. This is just the beginning. We will not go away, we will not be silenced, and we will never stop fighting.

 
2013-06-09 02:58:23 PM  

dr_blasto: EkimProx: Right, because wanting a bill that would ban Sharia law makes them "Islamophobic."

Fact is, these are concerned citizens. Islam should be treated the same as fascism or communism because it is, like it or not, a politically ideology. But it's also a lifestyle and a culture that conflicts with our own. Look to Europe. The answers are concrete.

Also, Islamophobia was coined by "CAIR" which has backed the terrorist group Hamas. CAIR was against the banning of Sharia law. Because wanting to be against genital mutilation and honour killings is sooooo wrong.

Farking Mohammad.

Ok, let's ban sharia law. I'm down, but you've got to ban all non-secular law too.


I find that people throw all religions under the bus when Islam is the central figure in brutality and destruction, chaos and bloodshed, terror and edited South Park episodes.

Someone pisses over Jesus, no one gets hurt. Someone draws a picture of a prophet, and everyone goes to hell.

Multiculturalism is like a pizza. A lot of toppings work well together. Bacon, pepperoni, extra cheese, Italian Sausage, etc. But the second someone adds a hotdog to the crust, your pizza is worthless.
 
2013-06-09 02:58:30 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: They're Muslims.  They've sat by and said nothing for generations of atrocities.  They should expect to face tremendous opposition for years if not decades.  If they're sincere and honest, they will STFU and keep at it.  Whining about it only serves to show they're nothing but a bunch of scum that needs to be exterminated along with the rest of their terrorist asshole buddies


LURK MOAR.
 
2013-06-09 02:59:10 PM  

Di Atribe: FlashHarry: from the tennessean article linked:

Protester Larry McIntosh, 54, of Manchester, said he was skeptical of Killian and Moore.
"I feel like (these) men are attempting to intimidate people with the freedom of speech and that bothers me," he said. "I would like to say that Muslims have a right to live here and worship freely, but I do not think they have the right to change American law to fit Sharia law. Violence no matter where it comes from bothers me."
Former "Saturday Night Live" star Victoria Jackson was among the protesters.

there aren't enough facepalms in the world...

Where are they getting the idea that Muslims are trying to change Americana law into Sharia law? I am genuinely perplexed & I don't understand.


Uh, Jebus told them?
 
2013-06-09 03:00:07 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: They're Muslims.  They've sat by and said nothing for generations of atrocities.  They should expect to face tremendous opposition for years if not decades.  If they're sincere and honest, they will STFU and keep at it.  Whining about it only serves to show they're nothing but a bunch of scum that needs to be exterminated along with the rest of their terrorist asshole buddies


You sound like a winner.
 
2013-06-09 03:00:19 PM  

BolloxReader: rkiller1: born_yesterday: fark these people. No, really. farking die you valueless shiatstains. You're an embarrassment as Americans, you're a disgrace as human beings. farking die already.

Tolerance, how does it work?

Intolerance of intolerance is not lack of tolerance. Tolerating intolerance is the far greater crime. Allowing those who hate to feel that they have anything legitimate to add is detrimental to society. They need to know that there is no room for their views in today's public spaces.


I'm confused. Are you talking about muslims or hicks from Tennessee?
 
2013-06-09 03:00:36 PM  

p51d007: What you islam apologist don't understand is that there is NO SUCH THING as diversity under
their "rule".  You either convert, or you are beheaded, end of story.
If you love these b*stards that think nothing of flying planes into buildings, beheading people,
strapping bombs on their selves and blowing up innocent women & children, then get on a flipping
boat and MOVE there!  The USA has no "tolerance" for idiots like yourselves.


FOUL:  Unnecessary line breaks.
 
2013-06-09 03:00:36 PM  

p51d007: What you islam apologist don't understand is that there is NO SUCH THING as diversity under
their "rule".  You either convert, or you are beheaded, end of story.
If you love these b*stards that think nothing of flying planes into buildings, beheading people,
strapping bombs on their selves and blowing up innocent women & children, then get on a flipping
boat and MOVE there!  The USA has no "tolerance" for idiots like yourselves.


I'll give it a 3/10...not bad, but too obvious
 
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