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(Yahoo)   Police release pictures of the "arsenal" found on the Santa Monica gunman: AR-15? Check. Ar-15 receiver? Not really a "weapon"..but okay.. A ".44 revolver"? Checks picture..umm..did he steal that from Wyatt Earp?   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 215
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2013-06-09 10:32:27 AM
Why the f*ck would you need a spare upper?
 
2013-06-09 10:33:19 AM
Black powder like the founders intended
 
2013-06-09 10:39:28 AM

NewportBarGuy: Why the f*ck would you need a spare upper?


I figured the lower was being modified by the forensics people to fit the full auto claim that they initially made.
 
2013-06-09 10:40:40 AM

Giltric: NewportBarGuy: Why the f*ck would you need a spare upper?

I figured the lower was being modified by the forensics people to fit the full auto claim that they initially made.

 
2013-06-09 10:49:30 AM

Giltric: NewportBarGuy: Why the f*ck would you need a spare upper?

I figured the lower was being modified by the forensics people to fit the full auto claim that they initially made.


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2013-06-09 11:37:44 AM

jehovahs witness protection: Giltric: NewportBarGuy: Why the f*ck would you need a spare upper?

I figured the lower was being modified by the forensics people to fit the full auto claim that they initially made.


That sounds like something the average gun nut will believe.
 
2013-06-09 12:17:24 PM
Subby isn't kidding, that looks like a Remington Army .44. But I assume it's one of the new repros for modern ammo.
 
2013-06-09 12:37:21 PM
My favorite pistol is the S&W Model 57. If you have a modicum of skill you don't need 12 rounds.
 
2013-06-09 12:42:11 PM
Knee pads?  Always knew subby's mom was a terrorist.
 
2013-06-09 12:51:09 PM
FEAR
 
2013-06-09 01:08:46 PM

NewportBarGuy: Why the f*ck would you need a spare upper?


Not so much spare but different configuration probably.

Effectively he had 2 guns. If only there was a law mandating a single gun limit, lives would have been saved...
 
2013-06-09 01:14:19 PM
So, my knee pads that I use when working on the house or out in the garden are now considered part of an arsenal?
 
2013-06-09 01:15:18 PM
Also, that's a puny arsenal.
 
2013-06-09 01:27:36 PM
Bastard violated gun free zone laws KNOWING people couldn't protect themselves.
 
2013-06-09 01:31:36 PM
Duffel bag with magazines that had about 1,300 rounds of ammunition.

so 30 round mags, 1300 rounds = 40+ mags
I count 9-10 mags.

so they mean 10 magazines and 1,300 rounds ammunition in boxes

MY guess is that the boxes of ammo are not really a threat.
SURE, he could reload, if he had hostages and enough time ....
ROFL
 
2013-06-09 01:45:14 PM

namatad: Duffel bag with magazines that had about 1,300 rounds of ammunition.

so 30 round mags, 1300 rounds = 40+ mags
I count 9-10 mags.

so they mean 10 magazines and 1,300 rounds ammunition in boxes

MY guess is that the boxes of ammo are not really a threat.
SURE, he could reload, if he had hostages and enough time ....
ROFL


Well, the guy did kill 4, probably soon to be 5 people.  So I suppose he did represent a threat to some people.

Not really getting what the big deal is about this report.  The cops are showing what the guy was carrying.

basemetal: So, my knee pads that I use when working on the house or out in the garden are now considered part of an arsenal?


I'm pretty sure he wasn't out to do any guerilla gardening.

basemetal: Also, that's a puny arsenal.


The guy managed to kill 5 people with this puny arsenal.  When you write shiat like this, you're supplying anti-gun advocates with arguments for widespread weapons bans.

It also makes you sound desensitized to violence, but that's another conversation entirely.
 
2013-06-09 02:08:41 PM
Technically, what defines an arsenal is how much ammunition do you have, and then having the means to deliver it. Last I knew (and I could very well be wrong), an arsenal was at least 1000 rounds. So, clips or not, if this guy had 1300+ rounds, and all were for his AR and his .44, then yes, he did indeed possess an arsenal.

Again, I could be wrong, my info could be either outdated or completely wrong, but this is how I understand it. I'm not exactly a gun person.
 
2013-06-09 02:08:58 PM

NewportBarGuy: Why the f*ck would you need a spare upper?


So the ballistics on the gun they eventually catch you with don't match the bullets from the crime scene?
 
2013-06-09 02:10:40 PM

ausfahrk: NewportBarGuy: Why the f*ck would you need a spare upper?

So the ballistics on the gun they eventually catch you with don't match the bullets from the crime scene?


Hmmmm.
 
2013-06-09 02:11:00 PM
Clearly, if his victims had been packing RPGs, none of this would have happened.
 
2013-06-09 02:12:12 PM
James' comment wins the whole article.
 
2013-06-09 02:13:03 PM

basemetal: So, my knee pads that I use when working on the house or out in the garden are now considered part of an arsenal?


I'm on my phone, can you quote James for me?
 
2013-06-09 02:13:32 PM
He needs the .44 to protect himself from zie Germans.
 
2013-06-09 02:15:41 PM
From the picture, that looks like one of those home built untraceable unregulated AR-15 receivers that was written about a few weeks back.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/05/ak-47-semi-automatic-rif le -building-party

I am pretty sure the revolver came out of a 3D Printer. You can see in the pixels it's a bit "blocky" not an actual cast piece of metal.

The knee pads?

He got those from your momma
 
2013-06-09 02:16:02 PM

libranoelrose: basemetal: So, my knee pads that I use when working on the house or out in the garden are now considered part of an arsenal?

I'm on my phone, can you quote James for me?


"Ammo and knee pads...One way or another, this guy was ready to blow his way through anything!"
 
2013-06-09 02:17:35 PM
Probably from Mission of Burma rather than Wyatt Earp.
 
2013-06-09 02:17:40 PM

NewportBarGuy: Why the f*ck would you need a spare upper?


What if your other upper jams?
 
2013-06-09 02:17:43 PM

basemetal: So, my knee pads that I use when working on the house or out in the garden are now considered part of an arsenal?


Do you grow hand grenades in your garden? Then yes.
 
2013-06-09 02:19:41 PM
Came looking for the "That's not an arsenal ... THIS is an arsenal!" pics.
Still waiting.
 
2013-06-09 02:19:56 PM

vossiewulf: Subby isn't kidding, that looks like a Remington Army .44. But I assume it's one of the new repros for modern ammo.


Yup.

You can buy cap & ball repros over the internet and have them posted to your door anywhere in the US, they don't count as firearms. Switch out the cap & ball cylinder for a cartridge converted one (also pretty much uncontrolled) and you have a revolver that fires modern ammunition, didn't require a background check and that isn't traceable in any way to you. It's actually pretty clever way for a felon to get a gun legally. I expect most don't bother because it's cheaper to just buy one illegally on the street. Plus cowboy guns don't  have much street cred, presumably.
 
2013-06-09 02:20:38 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: libranoelrose: basemetal: So, my knee pads that I use when working on the house or out in the garden are now considered part of an arsenal?

I'm on my phone, can you quote James for me?

"Ammo and knee pads...One way or another, this guy was ready to blow his way through anything!"


Best comment I think I have read on Fark today, maybe in the last couple of days even!
 
2013-06-09 02:20:42 PM
.44 magnum is awesome. I have a lever action Winchester chambered in that. After spending a day at the range you'll have a sore shoulder and a light wallet.
 
2013-06-09 02:21:45 PM

ausfahrk: NewportBarGuy: Why the f*ck would you need a spare upper?

So the ballistics on the gun they eventually catch you with don't match the bullets from the crime scene?



Wouldn't it be easier to carry some sandpaper?
 
2013-06-09 02:22:30 PM
"Assault-style" weapon? What the hell is that?
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2013-06-09 02:23:15 PM

vossiewulf: Subby isn't kidding, that looks like a Remington Army .44. But I assume it's one of the new repros for modern ammo.


Very unlikely. The gun pictured has a brass frame. The brass frame revolvers are not strong enough to withstand the pressures of cartridge ammo. Also the cartridge ammo used in these "modern" conversions use black powder/pyrodex, not modern smokeless ammo. It does not look like a new Ruger and the box adjacent appears to say "muzzle loading".
 
2013-06-09 02:24:15 PM

Giltric: NewportBarGuy: Why the f*ck would you need a spare upper?

I figured the lower was being modified by the forensics people to fit the full auto claim that they initially made.


Take off the tinfoil. It makes telepathically controlling you much harder.
 
2013-06-09 02:24:16 PM

limboslam: "Assault-style" weapon? What the hell is that?


An assault style weapon is anything scary looking gun owned by a civilian. If a scary looking gun is toted by a cop, than it's a patrol carbine.

Do try to keep up.
 
2013-06-09 02:24:59 PM

NewportBarGuy: Why the f*ck would you need a spare upper?


Well, it fires at 600 rounds a minute, so if the barrel gets hot, you can swap them out real fast.

/Someone believes this
 
2013-06-09 02:25:24 PM
It's a Remington 1858 black powder revolver. If it's conveted to shoot "modern cartridges" it still isn't, it would shoot .45 colt blackpowder cartridges or "cowboy load" smokeless cartridges. It's a replica.

If it's still bp, then to reload it, he'd have to, fill a chamber with powder, place a lead ball on top, use the loading lever to push the ball down into the chamber. Repeat with all 6 chambers. THEN place a percussion cap on each chamber nipple (ha ha, nipple!). THen for each shot, he has to manually cock the hammer back.

The probably illegally setup AR-15 (not a locked magazine probably) is a different story.

But how dare a murderous criminal break the CA Assault rifle law, doesn't he know he'll get in trouble, after his murder spree?
 
2013-06-09 02:25:35 PM

RoyBatty: From the picture, that looks like one of those home built untraceable unregulated AR-15 receivers that was written about a few weeks back.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/05/ak-47-semi-automatic-rif le -building-party

I am pretty sure the revolver came out of a 3D Printer. You can see in the pixels it's a bit "blocky" not an actual cast piece of metal.


Is this a new meme that I missed?   Can tell by the pixels?
 
2013-06-09 02:27:02 PM

Obama's Reptiloid Master: Giltric: NewportBarGuy: Why the f*ck would you need a spare upper?

I figured the lower was being modified by the forensics people to fit the full auto claim that they initially made.

Take off the tinfoil. It makes telepathically controlling you much harder.


I *used* to be against the orbiting mind-control satellites.
 
2013-06-09 02:27:15 PM

Plant Rights Activist: He needs the .44 to protect himself from zie Germans.


So you're saying this all started because he was looking for a caravan?
 
2013-06-09 02:27:52 PM

NewportBarGuy: Why the f*ck would you need a spare upper?


It's an "upper receiver," apparently something that he invented.
 
2013-06-09 02:29:35 PM

vossiewulf: Subby isn't kidding, that looks like a Remington Army .44. But I assume it's one of the new repros for modern ammo.


I looks a hell of a lot like my modern .44 Rem reproduction. It's still black powder cap and ball, though. Not that that wouldn't kill ya just as dead.
 
2013-06-09 02:30:21 PM

jehovahs witness protection: Bastard violated gun free zone laws KNOWING people couldn't protect themselves.


The entire country is a murder free zone moron
 
2013-06-09 02:30:54 PM

TemperedEdge: Technically, what defines an arsenal is how much ammunition do you have, and then having the means to deliver it. Last I knew (and I could very well be wrong), an arsenal was at least 1000 rounds. So, clips or not, if this guy had 1300+ rounds, and all were for his AR and his .44, then yes, he did indeed possess an arsenal.

Again, I could be wrong, my info could be either outdated or completely wrong, but this is how I understand it. I'm not exactly a gun person.


Pretty much bullshiat on all of this.  Any definition of an "arsenal" is strictly subjective.

If you ask me what an "arsenal" is, what I have in my mind is maybe 1,000 rifles and a couple of million rounds of ammunition.

If you ask one of the pants-pissers in here, they'll freak out that "nobody ever has any need to have over 100 rounds of ammunition" or some such nonsense.

Occasionally, some of the anti-gunners will try and pass BS legislation attempting to make a legal definition of 1,000 rounds or more as being an "arsenal" so that people need some kind of permit to have that much.  The problem is, to the uneducated, 1k rounds sounds like a shiat-ton.  What they don't know is that 1k rounds might fit in a fark'in shoe-box.
 
2013-06-09 02:32:10 PM
Didn't the shooter know that 30 round magazines were illegal in California? And wtf the guy must of been rich to afford 1300 rounds of ammo at todays prices.
 
2013-06-09 02:35:31 PM

Babwa Wawa: Well, the guy did kill 4, probably soon to be 5 people.


It's 5.
 
2013-06-09 02:38:11 PM

bigfatfattyfatfat: vossiewulf: Subby isn't kidding, that looks like a Remington Army .44. But I assume it's one of the new repros for modern ammo.

Very unlikely. The gun pictured has a brass frame. The brass frame revolvers are not strong enough to withstand the pressures of cartridge ammo. Also the cartridge ammo used in these "modern" conversions use black powder/pyrodex, not modern smokeless ammo. It does not look like a new Ruger and the box adjacent appears to say "muzzle loading".


Um, no.  The gun has a brass trigger guard.  Steel frame.  It's a modern reproduction.
 
2013-06-09 02:38:28 PM
Primitive weapons are designed to kill by poking holes in you. You are essentially a bubble. The weapon is essentially a prick.

No matter how primitive they may be, they perform this function of killing you quite well.

So if you are a smart-ass space laser cowboy up against a native with a sharp stick, avoid the sharp stick. It will kill you unless you are appropriately dressed in full-body armour.
 
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