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(Daily Mail)   The last Vulcan bomber, a crucial weapon for England in the 1982 Falkland Islands war, remains flying. It is pretty Vulcan amazing   (dailymail.co.uk ) divider line
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2013-06-08 11:58:43 AM  
May it live long and prosper.
 
2013-06-08 12:02:33 PM  
www.csmonitor.com
 
2013-06-08 12:05:10 PM  
But seriously, we can't afford to feed the poor school children, it'll bankrupt the country
 
2013-06-08 12:09:56 PM  
they should paint "you just got vulcanized" on the nose cones of its bombs.
 
2013-06-08 12:17:17 PM  

Lost Thought 00: But seriously, we can't afford to feed the poor school children, it'll bankrupt the country


It was private money in this project from what I understand.
 
2013-06-08 12:57:05 PM  

Barfmaker: Lost Thought 00: But seriously, we can't afford to feed the poor school children, it'll bankrupt the country

It was private money in this project from what I understand.


Let him go, he's on a roll.
 
2013-06-08 01:13:19 PM  

Barfmaker: Lost Thought 00: But seriously, we can't afford to feed the poor school children, it'll bankrupt the country

It was private money in this project from what I understand.


Yes, it's private money. http://www.vulcantothesky.org/
 
2013-06-08 01:44:10 PM  
i105.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-08 01:49:25 PM  
blogs.edweek.org

Looks like a great day for the UK.
 
2013-06-08 01:51:42 PM  
I wonder how many weeks it takes to swap out an engine on that thing.
 
2013-06-08 03:55:25 PM  
I loved that game.
 
2013-06-08 03:57:53 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I wonder how many weeks it takes to swap out an engine on that thing.


Just pop out a couple of cotter pins and I bet they slide right out.
 
2013-06-08 04:15:41 PM  
"Vulcan bombers were tactically vital in the 1982 Falklands War"

Uh no, they were completely irrelevant, and only used once to bomb a landing field on the Falkland islands as a publicity stunt. Kinda to show that the UK was on the way.

Either the author of the article is lying or a complete moron.
 
2013-06-08 04:32:04 PM  

spawn73: "Vulcan bombers were tactically vital in the 1982 Falklands War"

Uh no, they were completely irrelevant, and only used once to bomb a landing field on the Falkland islands as a publicity stunt. Kinda to show that the UK was on the way.

Either the author of the article is lying or a complete moron.


There were five Black Buck missions, and two more which were scrubbed. Although they didn't shut down air ops, the first one encouraged the Argies to move fighter resources north to protect BA, away from the Falklands theatre. As well, it may have led to Belgrano stumbling across Conqueror, and you know how that turned out, right?

I'm going to say the quibble is "useful" vs. "vital"; it's the Daily Fail, so you have to assume a certain amount of jingo in almost anything about the services.

Score: Meh.
 
2013-06-08 04:33:08 PM  
One of those Vulcans came to our Bergstrom AFB air show back in the late 70s. Pretty cool when it flew low over Austin with a group of RF-4C Phantom jets along side.

/Don't do air shows anymore myself.
//The Ramstein AB Flugtag disaster was too close a call.
 
2013-06-08 04:40:56 PM  

spawn73: "Vulcan bombers were tactically vital in the 1982 Falklands War"

Uh no, they were completely irrelevant, and only used once to bomb a landing field on the Falkland islands as a publicity stunt. Kinda to show that the UK was on the way.

Either the author of the article is lying or a complete moron.


Saw a documentary on that run.  Seemed an awful lot of effort for not much.  Something that could have been done by a commercial airliner twice.
 
2013-06-08 04:48:08 PM  
We have a Vulcan at the Nebraska Strategic Air and Space Museum (there used to be an active RAF squadron based at Offutt AFB in Omaha, and when they were pulled back to the UK, they donated a Vulcan). It has a both retro and futuristic look to it. Amazing that it's an airframe as old as our B-52s.

i44.tinypic.com

Trivia Note: During the Falklands conflict, Vulcans flew out from US airbases to do air recon over the islands and relay the data to the approaching Royal task force. This Vulcan in particular is most likely an actual relic from that war.

BONUS: You Tube video of this bomber when it was still flying:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K93BqKvRpc
 
2013-06-08 05:11:50 PM  
Say what you will, but the British always did make the sexiest warplanes. I know the US had the B-47 and the Blackbird, but the Vulcan, the Mosquito and the Spitfire all are just damn pretty to look at.
 
2013-06-08 05:16:58 PM  
Space ghost's ship?
 
2013-06-08 05:18:57 PM  
astrobioloblog.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-06-08 05:27:04 PM  

TV's Vinnie: It has a both retro and futuristic look to it.


Thank you, I was trying to come up with a description.

The Vulcan looks like something off the cover of a Hugo Gernsback magazine.
 
2013-06-08 05:28:17 PM  
I have sat in the left hand seat of that very plane, 558. This was years ago at Waddington IIRC. For such a big plane the cockpit is tiny and the view from the pilots seat is very restricted. You can't even see the planes own wings.

Also the two pilots have ejection seats while the other three crew don't. Which made a huge difference when some top brass pilot cocked up a take off and the plane went down.
 
2013-06-08 05:37:27 PM  
Is it a DIVE! bomber?

/Yes, I know, Vulcan, not Vultan
 
2013-06-08 05:49:01 PM  
Nonsequitur, but it looks like it should house Team Venture.
 
2013-06-08 06:18:03 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Trivia Note: During the Falklands conflict, Vulcans flew out from US airbases to do air recon over the islands and relay the data to the approaching Royal task force. This Vulcan in particular is most likely an actual relic from that war.


they also flew one of the longest bombing raids in history, from ascension island to the falklands. the story of it is fascinating and is told in the book Vulcan 607.
 
2013-06-08 06:40:34 PM  
i280.photobucket.com

I know where there is one more....
 
2013-06-08 06:45:50 PM  

spawn73: Either the author of the article is lying or a complete moron.


Maybe she's just out of her vulcan mind.
 
2013-06-08 06:56:45 PM  
"Vulcan bombers were tactically vital in the 1982 Falklands War"

I think Spock's time travel calculations might have been just a little bit off...
/by about four years
 
2013-06-08 08:02:37 PM  
AirForceVet

I grew up going to Aerofest at Bergstrom. It was amazing. Saw an A-10 do one of the craziest things I have ever seen a plane do to this day.


/bout 87
 
2013-06-08 08:10:23 PM  

Riche: [blogs.edweek.org image 500x124]

Looks like a great day for the UK.


The UK education budget is more than twice its defense budget.

/Before anyone gets all derpy about US spending, the US spends more per pupil than nearly any other country in the world.
 
2013-06-08 08:17:56 PM  

meanmutton: the US spends more per pupil than nearly any other country in the world.


We spend twice the normal rate for health care.

/ Not something to be proud of
 
2013-06-08 09:10:18 PM  
Considering the logistical nightmare required to enable them to launch the Black Buck raids, I'm somewhat confounded by the nostalgia. Good looking aircraft, no doubt... but they were only practical as medium range, nuclear standoff platforms in Europe. Their role in the Falklands was limited.
 
2013-06-08 09:22:48 PM  
Cool and all, but England was pretty much 100% the douchebag in that war...
 
2013-06-08 09:26:25 PM  

FlippityFlap: AirForceVet

I grew up going to Aerofest at Bergstrom. It was amazing. Saw an A-10 do one of the craziest things I have ever seen a plane do to this day.


/bout 87


I remember seeing footage of the A-10 in CNN during the first Gulf war and thinking "holy farking shiat how is that turn possible". Amazing plane. Another stupid war though.
 
2013-06-08 09:30:19 PM  

Ted Kennedy's Brain Tumor: I'm somewhat confounded by the nostalgia.


The Falklands War is the RAF's single combat operation since 1945.
 
2013-06-08 09:41:15 PM  
Cool and all, but England was pretty much 100% the douchebag in that war...
Come on, it's a lazy Saturday night, no one feels like biting...you'll have to troll harder....
 
2013-06-08 09:53:25 PM  

jaytkay: Ted Kennedy's Brain Tumor: I'm somewhat confounded by the nostalgia.

The Falklands War is the RAF's single combat operation since 1945.


WAIT THAT IS NOT TRUE, I GOOFED!

The Falklands War is the RAF's single combat HEAVY BOMBER operation since 1945.
 
2013-06-08 09:55:18 PM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: FlippityFlap: AirForceVet

I grew up going to Aerofest at Bergstrom. It was amazing. Saw an A-10 do one of the craziest things I have ever seen a plane do to this day.


/bout 87

I remember seeing footage of the A-10 in CNN during the first Gulf war and thinking "holy farking shiat how is that turn possible". Amazing plane. Another stupid war though.


Yup. The A-10 and SR-71 are pinnacles of engineering and utter badassery in aeronautics. Unmatched even now.
 
2013-06-08 09:55:56 PM  
When I was a child my father was Air Force, so sometimes lived on base.  When stationed at Fairchild AFB, the alert siren went off - and a Vulcan flew overhead.   I like to shiat my pants.   I had no idea what it was, other than "Not one of ours".   This was in the 60's, we still did nuclear attack drills in school.
 
2013-06-08 10:34:30 PM  
a warmongering death thread! right on!

nothing cooler than dead Argentinians...

any Argetininianz in this thread? you havin a laugh riot? YAY!!

amidoinitright?
 
2013-06-08 10:48:54 PM  

xaks: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: FlippityFlap: AirForceVet

I grew up going to Aerofest at Bergstrom. It was amazing. Saw an A-10 do one of the craziest things I have ever seen a plane do to this day.


/bout 87

I remember seeing footage of the A-10 in CNN during the first Gulf war and thinking "holy farking shiat how is that turn possible". Amazing plane. Another stupid war though.

Yup. The A-10 and SR-71 are pinnacles of engineering and utter badassery in aeronautics. Unmatched even now.


They were also some of the last aircraft designed for one role only, and thus percection when it came to that role. When everything started going multi-role we ended up with planes that could do a little of everything, but excelled at nothing. Sure our stuff is as good or better than everyone elses, but the days of planes that are simply amazing are gone. The A-10, F-14 and F-15 were the last great warplanes the US made.
 
2013-06-08 10:54:46 PM  

Hardy-r-r: [i280.photobucket.com image 850x361]

I know where there is one more....


Damn you. I was gonna make a Thunderball reference, and you beat me to it.
 
2013-06-08 11:13:59 PM  

Sultan Of Herf: xaks: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: FlippityFlap: AirForceVet

I grew up going to Aerofest at Bergstrom. It was amazing. Saw an A-10 do one of the craziest things I have ever seen a plane do to this day.


/bout 87

I remember seeing footage of the A-10 in CNN during the first Gulf war and thinking "holy farking shiat how is that turn possible". Amazing plane. Another stupid war though.

Yup. The A-10 and SR-71 are pinnacles of engineering and utter badassery in aeronautics. Unmatched even now.

They were also some of the last aircraft designed for one role only, and thus percection when it came to that role. When everything started going multi-role we ended up with planes that could do a little of everything, but excelled at nothing. Sure our stuff is as good or better than everyone elses, but the days of planes that are simply amazing are gone. The A-10, F-14 and F-15 were the last great warplanes the US made.


True dat.

Plus, look at the longevity as well. Hell, the A-10 is still the best at what it does, and it was introduced...gosh, 74? 75? Somewhere in there. The 'Hog is one they really broke the mold on. I doubt that even todays best and brightest could build a superior performing aircraft, regardless of the price. Keep in mind, the A-10 was actually pretty darn cheap, relatively speaking, to produce. IIRC something like 12M or so.

The SR-71 will also never be matched, I don't think. Not with satellites and the march of long-range imagine technologies. I don't think we have the stones to make an air-breather that can do what it could any more.

Sure, there's some testing even now with scramjet engines and such, but scale and flat-out balls to the wall like a Blackbird? I simply cannot see it happen with air breathing tech.
 
2013-06-08 11:23:51 PM  

Haliburton Cummings: a warmongering death thread! right on!

nothing cooler than dead Argentinians...

any Argetininianz in this thread? you havin a laugh riot? YAY!!

amidoinitright?


I live with my mom. The name ruins the troll.
 
2013-06-09 12:04:49 AM  

Durboloid: I like to shiat my pants.


Don't we all
 
2013-06-09 12:15:28 AM  

Durboloid: When I was a child my father was Air Force, so sometimes lived on base.  When stationed at Fairchild AFB, the alert siren went off - and a Vulcan flew overhead.   I like to shiat my pants.   I had no idea what it was, other than "Not one of ours".   This was in the 60's, we still did nuclear attack drills in school.


My aero engineering prof was retired air force, and, if I recall the story right, his squadron was doing training exercises with the RAF when a Vulcan crew decided to simulate a pop-up attack from low level. His radar operator suddenly started shouting about a giant contact coming out of nowhere and they looked up to see this enormous delta-wing aircraft zoom overhead, and flight-suits were browned.
 
2013-06-09 12:26:33 AM  

FloydA: [i105.photobucket.com image 565x640]


rlv.zcache.com
 
2013-06-09 01:22:23 AM  

meanmutton: Riche: [blogs.edweek.org image 500x124]

Looks like a great day for the UK.

The UK education budget is more than twice its defense budget.

/Before anyone gets all derpy about US spending, the US spends more per pupil than nearly any other country in the world.


Which only goes to prove (yet again) that quantity of dollar does not necessarily correlate with quality of product.
 
2013-06-09 01:23:35 AM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Durboloid: When I was a child my father was Air Force, so sometimes lived on base.  When stationed at Fairchild AFB, the alert siren went off - and a Vulcan flew overhead.   I like to shiat my pants.   I had no idea what it was, other than "Not one of ours".   This was in the 60's, we still did nuclear attack drills in school.

My aero engineering prof was retired air force, and, if I recall the story right, his squadron was doing training exercises with the RAF when a Vulcan crew decided to simulate a pop-up attack from low level. His radar operator suddenly started shouting about a giant contact coming out of nowhere and they looked up to see this enormous delta-wing aircraft zoom overhead, and flight-suits were browned.


I saw one fly at an airshow back in the 1980's: it was incredible to see something that big doing loops and rolls.
 
2013-06-09 03:28:47 AM  
The raid

Looks like the last bomb in the stick does the job.
 
2013-06-09 07:21:21 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org

Black Buck complicated? Nah!

(But it did delay the Argies a capability to strike at the British task force from the Falklands...)
 
2013-06-09 07:50:19 AM  

TV's Vinnie: We have a Vulcan at the Nebraska Strategic Air and Space Museum (there used to be an active RAF squadron based at Offutt AFB in Omaha, and when they were pulled back to the UK, they donated a Vulcan). It has a both retro and futuristic look to it. Amazing that it's an airframe as old as our B-52s.

Trivia Note: During the Falklands conflict, Vulcans flew out from US airbases to do air recon over the islands and relay the data to the approaching Royal task force. This Vulcan in particular is most likely an actual relic from that war.

BONUS: You Tube video of this bomber when it was still flying:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K93BqKvRpc


I sat in the cockpit of that Vulcan.

It will always be the SAC museum to me.
 
2013-06-09 10:25:12 AM  

xaks: The A-10 and SR-71 are pinnacles of engineering and utter badassery in aeronautics. Unmatched even now.


XB-70?
 
2013-06-09 10:45:05 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: xaks: The A-10 and SR-71 are pinnacles of engineering and utter badassery in aeronautics. Unmatched even now.

XB-70?


Perhaps if the Valkyrie had actually made it to production and entered active service. As a start. Then gone on to unmatched capability at its designed function *even when the enemy knows it is there and how it works*.

The XB-70 would qualify for a 'participation' ribbon, at best. Nice idea that never made it.
 
2013-06-09 10:59:54 AM  

LibertyHiller: There were five Black Buck missions, and two more which were scrubbed. Although they didn't shut down air ops, the first one encouraged the Argies to move fighter resources north to protect BA, away from the Falklands theatre. As well, it may have led to Belgrano stumbling across Conqueror, and you know how that turned out, right?


It took the British three torpedoes to do what the Japanese couldn't do with four (and four or five bombs, depending on the reliability of Kudo Butai AARs).
 
2013-06-09 11:23:56 AM  
This article seems highly illogical.
 
2013-06-09 11:45:00 AM  

UNC_Samurai: LibertyHiller: There were five Black Buck missions, and two more which were scrubbed. Although they didn't shut down air ops, the first one encouraged the Argies to move fighter resources north to protect BA, away from the Falklands theatre. As well, it may have led to Belgrano stumbling across Conqueror, and you know how that turned out, right?

It took the British three torpedoes to do what the Japanese couldn't do with four (and four or five bombs, depending on the reliability of Kudo Butai AARs).


And the torpedo the Royal Navy used was a WWII era one. The Mk8 actually entered service in 1925.
 
2013-06-09 11:51:35 AM  

FlippityFlap: AirForceVet

I grew up going to Aerofest at Bergstrom. It was amazing. Saw an A-10 do one of the craziest things I have ever seen a plane do to this day.


/bout 87


the air national guard used the lake i grew up next to as their training area for simulating bombing/strafing runs. the A-10 guys were freaking nuts, but it was always awesome as a kid when they came through. 40 feet off the water, doing barrel rolls, waving to people on shore. the f-16 guys were always boring, way up in the air just pretending to shoot stuff and being all professional
 
2013-06-09 12:02:09 PM  

xaks: Perhaps if the Valkyrie had actually made it to production and entered active service.


Well that's got little to do with engineering badassery. Six turbines, Mach 3+, compression lift and folding wingtips aren't enough for you? :) It wasn't some paper fantasy, two were built.
 
2013-06-09 02:13:52 PM  
IIRC, when we realised the Valkyrie was a mistake we accidently allowed the Russians to swipe the plans and learn the same for themselves.
 
2013-06-09 02:34:15 PM  
Oh, my favourite aircraft by a mile. It was designed sixty years ago and still looks like it's fallen out of a wormhole from the future. Stealthy too (by accident of design). Farking wonderful aircraft. In 1961 the USAF invited the RAF to have a go at penetrating the DEW line in Operation Skyshield. Two squadrons to Vulcans, impersonating Soviet bombers, flew in from Labrador and Bermuda, sliced through NORAD and "nuked" the eastern seaboard of the USA, which was swarming with fighters. Glorious. When new fighters and big SAMs gained enough performance to shoot them down at high altitude they switched to nap-of-the-earth low level flying and excelled in that too. It was the development of look-down shoot-down radar that did for them.
 
2013-06-09 02:39:11 PM  

spawn73: "Vulcan bombers were tactically vital in the 1982 Falklands War"

Uh no, they were completely irrelevant, and only used once to bomb a landing field on the Falkland islands as a publicity stunt. Kinda to show that the UK was on the way.

Either the author of the article is lying or a complete moron.


Actually they put a hole in the runway at Stanley which prevented the Argentines operating fast jets like the deadly Mirage, this was a considerable blow.
 
2013-06-09 05:50:28 PM  
Lovely craft. Now if someone could do the same thing with Concorde, I would be well pleased.
 
2013-06-09 06:27:18 PM  
I took this last year at RIAT Fairford. XH558, you beauty...

i.imgur.com
 
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