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2013-06-07 04:12:34 PM

I've always wondered what the Christian Broadcasting Network's view on tax exemption is. What type of guide might the Christian Broadcasting Network use when it comes to tax exemption?

"Doesn't your teacher pay the "Temple tax"

And Peter replied: "Yes, he does".


"What do you think, Simon?" he asked. "From whom do the kings of the earth collect duty and taxes-from their own children or from others?"


"From others," Peter answered. "Then the children are exempt," Jesus said to him, implying that as the son of God, he is exempt from paying God's tax. Then Jesus said:


"But so that we may not cause offense, go to the lake and throw out your line. Take the first fish you catch; open its mouth and you will find a four-drachma coin. Take it and give it to them for my tax and yours."




So, it seems like even though Jesus felt he was exempt from paying certain taxes, he paid them anyways.
 
2013-06-07 04:18:23 PM
and darrell issa slams his dick in a drawer again.
 
2013-06-07 04:28:03 PM
And the Fark regulars swallow Obama's load to hide any evidence.
 
2013-06-07 04:35:33 PM

jehovahs witness protection: And the Fark regulars swallow Obama's load to hide any evidence.


Obama was so afraid of the Tea Party that he ordered the IRS to not approve any tea party groups' tax exemption applications. And he's counting on all us Fark Libs to hide the evidence for him.

Of course, he's right, we will.
 
2013-06-07 04:35:59 PM

FlashHarry: and darrell issa slams his dick in a drawer again.


Maybe it'll break iff this time.
 
2013-06-07 04:36:41 PM
Iff=off
 
2013-06-07 04:41:14 PM

jehovahs witness protection: And the Fark regulars swallow Obama's load to hide any evidence.


i41.tinypic.com
 
2013-06-07 04:46:11 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-07 04:49:11 PM
Pffft, IRSgate is SOOOO last month.

Eavesdropgate is the new hotness right now.
 
2013-06-07 04:53:57 PM
Well, this does mean it isn't over, as Issa will now subpoena a whole bunch more people and docs in his eternal quest to somehow tie this to Obama, and we'll have another week or two of hearings on that.

What I want to know is, what was the full keyword list, anyway? Last I heard was that "Tea Party" and "Patriot" weren't the only ones on the list, but no word on what the rest of it was. Did Issa ever get around to subpoenaing that?
 
2013-06-07 04:54:49 PM

jehovahs witness protection: And the Fark regulars swallow Obama's load to hide any evidence.


I bet you swallow Drew's load Mr. Obvious Fark Mod. It's how you got your paid Troll job.
 
2013-06-07 04:56:27 PM

vernonFL: Obama was so afraid of the Tea Party that he ordered the IRS to not approve any tea party groups' tax exemption applications.


And yet they still got approved anyway.

Can Obama do anything right?
 
2013-06-07 05:06:02 PM

Granny_Panties: jehovahs witness protection: And the Fark regulars swallow Obama's load to hide any evidence.

I bet you swallow Drew's load Mr. Obvious Fark Mod. It's how you got your paid Troll job.


Yes, trolls are such a precious resource online that Drew and his 8-man super corporation spend all day rustling jimmies in the politics tab...
 
2013-06-07 05:06:30 PM

Mrtraveler01: vernonFL: Obama was so afraid of the Tea Party that he ordered the IRS to not approve any tea party groups' tax exemption applications.

And yet they still got approved anyway.

Can Obama do anything right?


Remember, he's an evil Communist Marxist Fascist dictator intent on taking away all our freedoms and destroying America.

And he's also the lazies, most ineffectual, most Muslim-y president of all time.

ALL TIME
 
2013-06-07 05:07:15 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: Granny_Panties: jehovahs witness protection: And the Fark regulars swallow Obama's load to hide any evidence.

I bet you swallow Drew's load Mr. Obvious Fark Mod. It's how you got your paid Troll job.

Yes, trolls are such a precious resource online that Drew and his 8-man super corporation spend all day rustling jimmies in the politics tab...


I'd do that if I were him.

/likes when jimmies are rustled.
 
2013-06-07 05:07:23 PM

vernonFL: jehovahs witness protection: And the Fark regulars swallow Obama's load to hide any evidence.

Obama was so afraid of the Tea Party that he ordered the IRS to not approve any tea party groups' tax exemption applications. And he's counting on all us Fark Libs to hide the evidence for him.

Of course, he's right, we will.


That has to be the most ineffectual political persecutions ever: these groups were allowed to operate as tax-exempt charities and were not required to disclose their donor lists unless their 1040s were rejected (which they weren't.) The testamony of the affected groups supports this: they did plenty of political work in the interim between application and approval.

This is still a case where I think the IRS screwed up majorly by targetting conservative political groups not political groups of all stripes. However, the harm was delays in approval and requests for more detailed information in the processing of a form they had no legal requirement to file as a 501c4.
 
2013-06-07 05:08:11 PM

Granny_Panties: jehovahs witness protection: And the Fark regulars swallow Obama's load to hide any evidence.

I bet you swallow Drew's load Mr. Obvious Fark Mod. It's how you got your paid Troll job.


As all other Obama worshipers, you are delusional.
 
2013-06-07 05:09:35 PM

Grungehamster: That has to be the most ineffectual political persecutions ever: these groups were allowed to operate as tax-exempt charities and were not required to disclose their donor lists unless their 1040s were rejected (which they weren't.) The testamony of the affected groups supports this: they did plenty of political work in the interim between application and approval.


I wish my comrades would be "persecuted" by being granted non-profit status we're not qualified for instead of... y'know... being shot at and then trotted in front of grand juries in political witchhunts.
 
2013-06-07 05:09:55 PM

vernonFL: So, it seems like even though Jesus felt he was exempt from paying certain taxes, he paid them anyways.


Yep, pay them with counterfeit money. Counterfeit money made out of fish.
 
2013-06-07 05:10:24 PM

Mithiwithi: Well, this does mean it isn't over, as Issa will now subpoena a whole bunch more people and docs in his eternal quest to somehow tie this to Obama, and we'll have another week or two of hearings on that.

What I want to know is, what was the full keyword list, anyway? Last I heard was that "Tea Party" and "Patriot" weren't the only ones on the list, but no word on what the rest of it was. Did Issa ever get around to subpoenaing that?


I have this strong opinion that even less people would give a dark about IRS-gazi if the list was made public.
 
2013-06-07 05:11:01 PM

jehovahs witness protection: And the Fark regulars swallow Obama's load to hide any evidence.


What is it today, the alcoholism, the drug addictions, or the strokes?
 
2013-06-07 05:15:55 PM

Mrtraveler01: And yet they still got approved anyway.

Can Obama do anything right?


typically misleading answer

" In February 2010, the Champaign Tea Party in Illinois received approval of its tax-exempt status from the IRS in 90 days, no questions asked. That was the month before the Internal Revenue Service started singling out Tea Party groups for special treatment. There wouldn't be another Tea Party application approved for 27 months. In that time, the IRS approved perhaps dozens of applications from similar liberal and progressive groups, a USA TODAY review of IRS data shows."

source: usa today
 
2013-06-07 05:15:58 PM
So is G.W. Bush in prison yet for his war crimes?

/Oh yea right. Hes white and therefor part of the rightwing master race of those that shall bring about destruction of the Earth so some Christian f*ckwits can go to heaven.
//Oh and by the way, heaven is in the Middle East, so don't be so quick to nuke it.
 
2013-06-07 05:19:18 PM
And once again the "scandal" is back at square one.

Have I gotten so old that I remember when investigations were to find out what happened and fix them rather then give up correcting them when they don't rise to impeachment standards?

/adjust onion on belt
 
2013-06-07 05:21:20 PM
Do liberals honestly live in a bubble?  Why is subby surprised by this?  It was always the argument from the right that this was larger than 2 rogue agents in cincinatti.  It was always the argument that Benghazi was not about a YouTube video.  It was the liberals leaders pushing those myths.

In regards to the IRS, it was always stated by the GOP two things: a) the targeting was more widespread than one office, b) The White House knew more than they initially reported.  B was proven false quickly with Carney continuing to change when people in the White House knew.  A is being show to also be true.  Why is this a shock to you subby?

The most disconcerting part is still the fact that the IG refuses to investigate the LEAKS OF PRIVATE DOCUMENTS to liberals groups like ProPublica.  In fact, they are now hiding behind Nixonian era rules to state they can't let NOW know who leaked their documents.  The leaking of these documents is BY FAR the scariest part of everything.  It is the pure abuse of political power to try and subvert a political opponent.  Yet liberals continue to try and blame the victim for being abused.
 
2013-06-07 05:22:16 PM

the_dude_abides: Mrtraveler01: And yet they still got approved anyway.

Can Obama do anything right?

typically misleading answer

" In February 2010, the Champaign Tea Party in Illinois received approval of its tax-exempt status from the IRS in 90 days, no questions asked. That was the month before the Internal Revenue Service started singling out Tea Party groups for special treatment. There wouldn't be another Tea Party application approved for 27 months. In that time, the IRS approved perhaps dozens of applications from similar liberal and progressive groups, a USA TODAY review of IRS data shows."

source: usa today


So none of these tea party groups got the tax-exempt status they wanted?
 
2013-06-07 05:23:39 PM

Mrtraveler01: vernonFL: Obama was so afraid of the Tea Party that he ordered the IRS to not approve any tea party groups' tax exemption applications.

And yet they still got approved anyway.

Can Obama do anything right?


It's okay to target political groups you disagree with at extra cost and extra time... as long as the results end the same!  Wow what an ignorant stance you have taken.  Thousands of dollars for groups (shipping costs, printing costs) for materials.  Thousands of dollars for lawyers.  Fear of being charged with perjury on questions like "what is the content of your prayers?".  27 months to approve versus 9 months on average for liberal groups.  The leaking of confidential information by agents to liberal groups.

You are perfectly okay with that.  What an ignorant fool.
 
2013-06-07 05:24:50 PM

the_dude_abides: Mrtraveler01: And yet they still got approved anyway.

Can Obama do anything right?

typically misleading answer

" In February 2010, the Champaign Tea Party in Illinois received approval of its tax-exempt status from the IRS in 90 days, no questions asked. That was the month before the Internal Revenue Service started singling out Tea Party groups for special treatment. There wouldn't be another Tea Party application approved for 27 months. In that time, the IRS approved perhaps dozens of applications from similar liberal and progressive groups, a USA TODAY review of IRS data shows."

source: usa today


Since not a one of them should have been approved, I find your concern hilarious
 
2013-06-07 05:28:08 PM
What exactly is wrong with giving extra scrutiny to those who give reason to have extra scrutiny? The tax-exempt status isn't supposed to go to political organizations so an organization with the words 'tea party' in their name should raise a red flag and generate extra attention just like wearing a t-shirt with the word 'terrorist' on the front while trying to go through security at an airport will get you extra attention.
 
2013-06-07 05:29:05 PM

MyRandomName: Mrtraveler01: vernonFL: Obama was so afraid of the Tea Party that he ordered the IRS to not approve any tea party groups' tax exemption applications.

And yet they still got approved anyway.

Can Obama do anything right?

It's okay to target political groups you disagree with at extra cost and extra time... as long as the results end the same!  Wow what an ignorant stance you have taken.  Thousands of dollars for groups (shipping costs, printing costs) for materials.  Thousands of dollars for lawyers.  Fear of being charged with perjury on questions like "what is the content of your prayers?".  27 months to approve versus 9 months on average for liberal groups.  The leaking of confidential information by agents to liberal groups.

You are perfectly okay with that.  What an ignorant fool.


No. I think all political groups should face the same scrutiny the tea party faced.

Anything dealing with politics should automatically be suspect. Whether they be conservative or liberal.
 
2013-06-07 05:29:08 PM

jehovahs witness protection: And the Fark regulars swallow Obama's load to hide any evidence.


Just like your mom
 
2013-06-07 05:31:08 PM

jehovahs witness protection: Granny_Panties: jehovahs witness protection: And the Fark regulars swallow Obama's load to hide any evidence.

I bet you swallow Drew's load Mr. Obvious Fark Mod. It's how you got your paid Troll job.

As all other Obama worshipers, you are delusional.


Looking at the facts and making a claim that is backed up by those facts does not equal "Obama Worshiping" Keep farking that chicken.
 
2013-06-07 05:31:23 PM
Long story short. I think we should stop treating tax exempt status like can and only give them to groups that really deserve it (ie: non political ones)
 
2013-06-07 05:32:52 PM

Befuddled: What exactly is wrong with giving extra scrutiny to those who give reason to have extra scrutiny? The tax-exempt status isn't supposed to go to political organizations so an organization with the words 'tea party' in their name should raise a red flag and generate extra attention just like wearing a t-shirt with the word 'terrorist' on the front while trying to go through security at an airport will get you extra attention.


And never mind that many, many more "liberal" groups (liberal meaning not-obviously-conservative-political) were scrutinized, and that the scrutiny of the Obviously-Political-And-Therefore-Ought-to-be-investigated groups was justified.
 
2013-06-07 05:34:33 PM

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Since not a one of them should have been approved, I find your concern hilarious


if that's the case, then progressive groups should be held to the same standard, but weren't
 
2013-06-07 05:35:14 PM

Garaba: Mithiwithi: Well, this does mean it isn't over, as Issa will now subpoena a whole bunch more people and docs in his eternal quest to somehow tie this to Obama, and we'll have another week or two of hearings on that.

What I want to know is, what was the full keyword list, anyway? Last I heard was that "Tea Party" and "Patriot" weren't the only ones on the list, but no word on what the rest of it was. Did Issa ever get around to subpoenaing that?

I have this strong opinion that even less people would give a dark about IRS-gazi if the list was made public.


I believe the internal review that pointed to the three terms as blantantly biased; if "liberal" or "progress" had been on there you would have to figure it would warrant a mention, if only a plea of defense by Ms. Lerner.

Personally, I don't want a full list of criteria the IRS uses when doing any sort of review/audit to be public, because it essentially completely ruins the ability of the IRS to catch people who are violating the law who aren't CYA because their scam doesn't have a political appearance.

Honestly, the biggest problem in this is it's really hard to see where issue advocacy ends and politics begins. Any group dedicated to social welfare is going to have a vested interest in seeing certain policies enacted, repealed, or kept in place. Virtually everyone believes that their preferred politics will make the world a better place for most people: isn't that an assumption that political activism is a form of bettering the welfare of the public?
 
2013-06-07 05:35:41 PM

Zeppelininthesky: jehovahs witness protection: Granny_Panties: jehovahs witness protection: And the Fark regulars swallow Obama's load to hide any evidence.

I bet you swallow Drew's load Mr. Obvious Fark Mod. It's how you got your paid Troll job.

As all other Obama worshipers, you are delusional.

Looking at the facts and making a claim that is backed up by those facts does not equal "Obama Worshiping" Keep farking that chicken.


Your mom's thong didn't fit the chicken, so I stuck to farking your mom.
 
2013-06-07 05:38:16 PM

Mrtraveler01: So none of these tea party groups got the tax-exempt status they wanted?


first you give a misleading answer, now you're gonna play word games to rationalize it.

these conservative groups had their applications in limbo for years at a time for no good reason. you think it's ok just because some were eventually approved?
 
2013-06-07 05:38:42 PM

the_dude_abides: Mrtraveler01: And yet they still got approved anyway.

Can Obama do anything right?

typically misleading answer

" In February 2010, the Champaign Tea Party in Illinois received approval of its tax-exempt status from the IRS in 90 days, no questions asked. That was the month before the Internal Revenue Service started singling out Tea Party groups for special treatment. There wouldn't be another Tea Party application approved for 27 months. In that time, the IRS approved perhaps dozens of applications from similar liberal and progressive groups, a USA TODAY review of IRS data shows."

source: usa today


So we've already moved so far down the slope that the extent of the scandal is that the IRS was slow.  No, really slow.

We need a better opposition party.  The GOP can't even wrangle up a halfway decent scandal anymore.
 
2013-06-07 05:40:31 PM

jehovahs witness protection: Granny_Panties: jehovahs witness protection: And the Fark regulars swallow Obama's load to hide any evidence.

I bet you swallow Drew's load Mr. Obvious Fark Mod. It's how you got your paid Troll job.

As all other Obama worshipers, you are delusional.


You sound really ignorant when you call us Obama worshippers.  We don't worship Obama.  We sacrifice children to Obama, but I wouldn't really call that worship.
 
2013-06-07 05:41:33 PM

MyRandomName: Fear of being charged with perjury on questions like "what is the content of your prayers?".


Mother Sarah, we ask for your Divine guidance. Lead us to the promised land, a land of guns and deep fried butter. Amen.
 
2013-06-07 05:42:43 PM

MyRandomName: Do liberals honestly live in a bubble?


Turn off the projector.
 
2013-06-07 05:43:27 PM

super_grass: Pffft, IRSgate is SOOOO last month.

Eavesdropgate is the new hotness right now.


Unfortunately the public is so tired of the last few years of the GOP's fabricated bullshiat "scandals" that now that there's actually something worth getting concerned about, no one really cares.
 
2013-06-07 05:43:36 PM

Garaba: Mithiwithi: What I want to know is, what was the full keyword list, anyway? Last I heard was that "Tea Party" and "Patriot" weren't the only ones on the list, but no word on what the rest of it was. Did Issa ever get around to subpoenaing that?

I have this strong opinion that even less people would give a dark about IRS-gazi if the list was made public.


Well, I kind of have that opinion too, but since my opinion isn't based on any specific evidence, I'd much rather not speculate too hard on what was on the list. I mean, it's possible that it really was all conservative-oriented keywords, and liberal ("occupy", "progress", "labor") and more-neutral-but-politically-suggestive ("election", "vote", "freedom") keywords weren't on there.

But either way, I would think the full keyword list is a crucial bit of data on the full scope of the flaws in IRS policy, and it's continuing absence from public view is one of the key reasons that I'm growing less and less concerned about this whole thing.
 
2013-06-07 05:43:48 PM

Mrtraveler01: Long story short. I think we should stop treating tax exempt status like can and only give them to groups that really deserve it (ie: non political ones)


That would kill the NAACP and most labor unions.
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2013-06-07 05:44:40 PM

jehovahs witness protection: And the Fark regulars swallow Obama's load to hide any evidence.


Tax exempt groups are not allowed to be political.   What the hell is so hard about that to understand.
 
2013-06-07 05:45:34 PM

smitty04: Mrtraveler01: Long story short. I think we should stop treating tax exempt status like can and only give them to groups that really deserve it (ie: non political ones)

That would kill the NAACP and most labor unions.


And?
 
2013-06-07 05:46:54 PM

FlashHarry: and darrell issa slams his dick in a drawer again.


That drawer isn't going to fark itself.
 
2013-06-07 05:47:44 PM

Warlordtrooper: jehovahs witness protection: And the Fark regulars swallow Obama's load to hide any evidence.

Tax exempt groups are not allowed to be political.   What the hell is so hard about that to understand.


Warlordtrooper: jehovahs witness protection: And the Fark regulars swallow Obama's load to hide any evidence.

Tax exempt groups are not allowed to be political.   What the hell is so hard about that to understand.


Liberal groups were approved twice as fast. WAIT...Ten times as fast....But I'll only quote you twice.
 
2013-06-07 05:48:06 PM

Warlordtrooper: jehovahs witness protection: And the Fark regulars swallow Obama's load to hide any evidence.

Tax exempt groups are not allowed to be political.   What the hell is so hard about that to understand.


THIS.
 
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