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2013-06-07 01:36:46 PM  
Simple solution:
Put the sign across the path at 40 inches. If you don't stop, you do a Wylie E. Coyote impression.
 
2013-06-07 01:37:30 PM  
FTFA: "clusters of cyclists hitting speeds of 30 mph"

Fun fact, this is also known as a "flamboyant"
 
2013-06-07 01:44:15 PM  

PsyLord: FTA: Cyclists who zip along... faster than the 15 mph speed limit may find their free-wheeling ways costing them $50.

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2013/06/07/5478327/slow-down-or-risk-ticket-sac r amento.html#storylink=cpy
Last I checked, my bike doesn't have a speedometer.  Until they mandate all bikes have speedometers, this is BS.


Most states (mine included) do not require speedometers on motorcycles.  Can I use your defense as well?
 
2013-06-07 01:45:48 PM  

Badgers: relevant.


That was great.

Also, the American River Trail is one of the great bike rides in America. It's just the bike riders who often make it awful.
 
2013-06-07 01:55:34 PM  

Feltonl: Let's get one thing straight.

Bicyclist are NOT BIKERS!

Bikers ride Motorcycles.

carry on.


Bicycle ... Biker ...

Not finding those letters anywhere in "motorcycle". The proper term is "motorcyclist".
 
2013-06-07 01:56:23 PM  

Gleeman: theorellior: Gleeman: If I had a nickel for every time a group of pricks cyclists wearing Spandex and speed helmets, and riding narrow wheel racing bikes were holding up traffic for miles while puttering along at slightly above walking speed in the middle of a two lane country road...

You should get off your fat ass and join them.

The funny part is, I'm skinnier than most of the people I see on the bikes.


I was initially going to retort that at least my exercise does require me to get off my ass eg weights and running, unlike a cyclist, until I saw this comment as well:

theorellior: rikkitikkitavi: rikkitikkitavi: theorellior: I'm impressed with the thread so far. The last bike thread had dissolved into acrimony and tones of moral indignation by now.

f*ck you

i keed

You sound just like a scofflaw cyclist who has no respect for the rules of the road and will die in a mangled heap under the wheels of a lazy whiner who only breaks a sweat if his Starbucks spills on the leather upholstery.



Obvious troll is obvious.

/next target acquired
 
2013-06-07 01:57:40 PM  

PsyLord:
Last I checked, my bike doesn't have a speedometer.  Until they mandate all bikes have speedometers, this is BS.


6655321: This just in - local government just announced a major contract with a for-profit private company to install and operate bicycle stop sign cameras.

How would a bicyclist be able to determine their speed since a speedometer is not a mandatory item on a two wheeler?


Well... now I know where not to go on vacation...

What a pointless waste of resources. How about going out and trying to solve actual crimes? Oh... wait... assessing clues and arresting rapists, muggers and murderers is hard and doesn't return money to the city coffers... I think I figured out why nobody has faith in the government any more...

I'm a cyclist, and I quite literally never ride in a group. Any kind of down-slope will result in greater than 15mph. At this point, my cycling is largely for transport and less for fun, just because of shifts in lifestyle... I'd still be cheesed as hell if some smokey bear tried to give me a ticket for speeding. How do they plan on collecting that money? I can't imagine people voluntarily stepping up to pay such a stupid fine. What's the enforcement mechanism? Jail? For a bike speeding penalty? Hello 8th Amendment Civil Rights Lawsuit...
 
2013-06-07 02:05:01 PM  
For me the most annoying thing about cyclists is when they choose to be a legally recognized vehicle on the road only when it suits them.

This is one of those times.

/Cyclist
 
2013-06-07 02:13:33 PM  

NewbornRook: Obvious troll is obvious.


Usually you don't need to be subtle to get a cyclist thread going. I did it accidentally in the last bike thread I was in, I'm nowhere near professional.
 
2013-06-07 02:22:38 PM  

LessO2: Jument: Newsflash: motorists routinely do fast rolling "stops" through stop signs and red lights (turning right) as well. We all do it.

What you describe is a "California Stop."  True that motorists do that.   Bicyclists don't even do that, and you know it.


So you're saying that it's ok when drivers do it but not ok when cyclists do it? I agree that some cyclists break the rules of the road horribly, however the same is true of some drivers. If a cyclist is blowing a stop sign in a situation that is dangerous, they are in the wrong. If a cyclist is blowing through a stop sign at 10-15 mph in a situation that is relatively safe, no problem. That's exactly how many (I would say most) drivers behave.

You try being a runner on the sidewalk and see how often you are nearly killed by jackhole drivers making fast rolling stops whilst not looking where the fark they are going. Then come talk to me about how dangerous cyclists are.
 
2013-06-07 02:27:50 PM  

hardinparamedic: Bicyclists ignoring the law.

So, today is Friday

any day that ends in "day", right?

/FTFY
 
2013-06-07 02:28:49 PM  

Jument: Newsflash: motorists routinely do fast rolling "stops" through stop signs and red lights (turning right) as well. We all do it.


and they get tickets, not removal of the stop signs/lights..... I'm sorry, did you have a point?
 
2013-06-07 02:31:24 PM  
I was just waiting for another moron biker thread to post this yet again. For the umpteenth time a cyclist who blew through a red light and slammed into my car, flipping over the car and needing major back surgery due to the high speed he was riding and the way he hit the ground. Yet again, he has found an idiot lawyer that sent me a letter yesterday saying that I have to pay $$$. If I didn't have a dash cam, I would have been in real trouble. However the dash cam showed that I had a green light, delayed before entering the intersection, etc. as usual my lawyer will charge me $200 for sending a copy of the police report, the video, and ask that she be paid restitution for his lawyer bothering her and charging me if his lawyer does not pay up for not investigating before threatening to sue. The really sad thing is that my dashcam caught a biker blowing through a red light to have a cement truck go over her (he was going at a good rate of speed). Very obvious that she ran through the red to be killed. My local area has lots of parks, and I admit after these two incidents to being a jerk and calling the police on every major bike blow through stop sign that I see. The usually screaming jerks when the police pull them over shut up when I mention dash cam. On the better side, there are lots of organized bike rides in that area in the better weather months. The police guard every intersection and do a great job organizing traffic.
 
2013-06-07 02:36:58 PM  

ZeroPly: Feltonl: Let's get one thing straight.

Bicyclist are NOT BIKERS!

Bikers ride Motorcycles.

carry on.

Bicycle ... Biker ...

Not finding those letters anywhere in "motorcycle". The proper term is "motorcyclist".


I would like to make a humble suggestion: Go into a biker bar fully dressed in your "Biker" uniform (spandex, helmet, etc) and indicate that you are a "Biker" and please tell us your results.
 
2013-06-07 02:37:14 PM  
Just for fun:

hardinparamedic: Drivers ignoring the law.

So, today is Friday, right?


Gleeman: If I had a nickel for every time a group of prick drivers were holding up traffic for miles while puttering along at slightly above walking speed in the middle of a two lane country road...


que.guero: As someone who had a car blow through a red light and knock me off my feet in a crosswalk, I try to get as many kicks into car-ragers as possible.


All completely plausible posts, and yet we don't devolve to:

abhorrent1: Fark you drivers. Just fark you!

 
2013-06-07 02:37:37 PM  
As a road bike rider,  I do approve of more control. a couple weeks ago, I took my bike on the tram up to Sandia Peak. approx 10,500 fet, and elected to ride down the road. Thought I was gonna burn out my brakes, but just had my bike tuned, so all was well. Coming down some of those hills, you gotta watch for cars quite intently. I do use a GPS when I ride, and one hill I came down, in a 35 zone, I hit 57. With a 14 lb bike a fatality should an issue arise was virtually guaranteed. I made an error going that fat, and do not intend to repeat it.I do try to ride responsibly, stopping at stop signs and so forth, but truth be told, there are assholes on bikes, same as cars. Once, I was on a bike trail in town marked "no motorized bikes, when a guyon a motorized bike went past at about 25 MPH. I yelled out "no motorized bikes!, and he flipped me off. I caught up to him real fast, and asked what his problem was. No answer, as I expected. I chided him on being a dick (don't), and turned off. Haven't seen him since.
I'd ride my bike to work, but it's 30miles each way, and you have to go through a reservation, so not that feasible right now.
Moral of the story is, the road is full of dicks, so be careful. I mean, I've had soccer Moms almost run me down than slow down to let me pass.I've been hit by cars a few times, but so far everyone has stopped to help. I wear a helmet, and have very bright lights, so visibility is not an issue. Be courteous to others, and don't be a dick.
 
2013-06-07 02:51:54 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Jument: Newsflash: motorists routinely do fast rolling "stops" through stop signs and red lights (turning right) as well. We all do it.

and they get tickets, not removal of the stop signs/lights..... I'm sorry, did you have a point?


You'll note in this story that the stop signs are on a trail. Removing the trail stop signs encourages cyclist to ride the trail. The local gov't is making a decision to give cyclists on the trail the right of way in order to drive cyclist traffic on the trail and/or to make the trail/road traffic interaction better or safer in some way. This is not a case of cyclists not having to obey the rules of the road, because they aren't on one. So... I'm sorry, did you have a point?

In all seriousness, I was addressing the general bullshiat that most farkers spout on cyclist threads not TFA.
 
2013-06-07 03:00:43 PM  

Feltonl: Let's get one thing straight.

Bicyclist are NOT BIKERS!

Bikers ride Motorcycles.

carry on.


THIS!

And It's always fun to pull into a group of bicycle douches on my Harley.
 
2013-06-07 03:03:03 PM  
Dammit, who moved the Stop Sign?

cdn.ebaumsworld.com
 
2013-06-07 03:03:36 PM  

Jument: HindiDiscoMonster: Jument: Newsflash: motorists routinely do fast rolling "stops" through stop signs and red lights (turning right) as well. We all do it.

and they get tickets, not removal of the stop signs/lights..... I'm sorry, did you have a point?

You'll note in this story that the stop signs are on a trail. Removing the trail stop signs encourages cyclist to ride the trail. The local gov't is making a decision to give cyclists on the trail the right of way in order to drive cyclist traffic on the trail and/or to make the trail/road traffic interaction better or safer in some way. This is not a case of cyclists not having to obey the rules of the road, because they aren't on one. So... I'm sorry, did you have a point?

In all seriousness, I was addressing the general bullshiat that most farkers spout on cyclist threads not TFA.


and i made the same type of comparison you did... to make a point. :)
 
2013-06-07 03:04:09 PM  

Stone Meadow: PsyLord: Last I checked, my bike doesn't have a speedometer.  Until they mandate all bikes have speedometers, this is BS.

You can fix that for about $10 at Wally World, you know.


Hmm... interesting.  How does that device determine your speed?  I'm just curious because it doesn't look like it's wired to your wheel.  Nor is that item expensive enough to be GPS based.
 
2013-06-07 03:06:38 PM  

PsyLord: Stone Meadow: PsyLord: Last I checked, my bike doesn't have a speedometer.  Until they mandate all bikes have speedometers, this is BS.

You can fix that for about $10 at Wally World, you know.

Hmm... interesting.  How does that device determine your speed?  I'm just curious because it doesn't look like it's wired to your wheel.  Nor is that item expensive enough to be GPS based.


from one of the comments: "Installation was fairly easy. No tools were required the magnet attached easily to the spoke with a thumb screw and the other end attached to the post with zip ties. The actual computer slipped in easily to the holder which attached to the handle"
 
2013-06-07 03:07:01 PM  

Uzzah: Just for fun:

hardinparamedic: Drivers ignoring the law.

So, today is Friday, right?

Gleeman: If I had a nickel for every time a group of prick drivers were holding up traffic for miles while puttering along at slightly above walking speed in the middle of a two lane country road...

que.guero: As someone who had a car blow through a red light and knock me off my feet in a crosswalk, I try to get as many kicks into car-ragers as possible.

All completely plausible posts, and yet we don't devolve to:

abhorrent1: Fark you drivers. Just fark you!


When some asshole in a car runs through a red light and injures or kills someone, other car owners don't defend him.

Bicyclists would defend Jeffrey Dahmer if he road a fixie.
 
2013-06-07 03:10:42 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: ZeroPly: Feltonl: Let's get one thing straight.

Bicyclist are NOT BIKERS!

Bikers ride Motorcycles.

carry on.

Bicycle ... Biker ...

Not finding those letters anywhere in "motorcycle". The proper term is "motorcyclist".

I would like to make a humble suggestion: Go into a biker bar fully dressed in your "Biker" uniform (spandex, helmet, etc) and indicate that you are a "Biker" and please tell us your results.



There's no such thing as a "biker bar". Did you mean a "motorcyclist bar"?
 
2013-06-07 03:18:10 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: ZeroPly: Feltonl: Let's get one thing straight.

Bicyclist are NOT BIKERS!

Bikers ride Motorcycles.

carry on.

Bicycle ... Biker ...

Not finding those letters anywhere in "motorcycle". The proper term is "motorcyclist".

I would like to make a humble suggestion: Go into a biker bar fully dressed in your "Biker" uniform (spandex, helmet, etc) and indicate that you are a "Biker" and please tell us your results.


www.amarillolinux.com
 
2013-06-07 03:19:30 PM  

ZeroPly: HindiDiscoMonster: ZeroPly: Feltonl: Let's get one thing straight.

Bicyclist are NOT BIKERS!

Bikers ride Motorcycles.

carry on.

Bicycle ... Biker ...

Not finding those letters anywhere in "motorcycle". The proper term is "motorcyclist".

I would like to make a humble suggestion: Go into a biker bar fully dressed in your "Biker" uniform (spandex, helmet, etc) and indicate that you are a "Biker" and please tell us your results.


There's no such thing as a "biker bar". Did you mean a "motorcyclist bar"?


Go ahead and tell these guys.  I'm sure they will be very understanding.

www.ironhorsebiker.com
 
2013-06-07 03:24:12 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: PsyLord: Stone Meadow: PsyLord: Last I checked, my bike doesn't have a speedometer.  Until they mandate all bikes have speedometers, this is BS.

You can fix that for about $10 at Wally World, you know.

Hmm... interesting.  How does that device determine your speed?  I'm just curious because it doesn't look like it's wired to your wheel.  Nor is that item expensive enough to be GPS based.

from one of the comments: "Installation was fairly easy. No tools were required the magnet attached easily to the spoke with a thumb screw and the other end attached to the post with zip ties. The actual computer slipped in easily to the holder which attached to the handle"


Yup. Mine is wireless. I just clipped the magnet onto a spoke, and zip-tied the sensor/transmitter to the fork. Like this:

www.gadgetspage.com

My bike's sensor uses Bluetooth to communicate with the computer/readout up on the handlebar. Both the sensor and computer use common pancake-style camera batteries. During setup you enter the actual circumference of the tire in millimeters (I used a tape measure). It's very simple and easy to use. Cheap ones like this don't keep cadence or measure watts, but upgraded ones are affordable and easy to install.
 
2013-06-07 03:24:23 PM  

OgreMagi: Bicyclists would defend Jeffrey Dahmer if he road a fixie.


Untrue.  I've ridden more bicycle miles than any three people on this thread combined, and I would kill Dahmer TWICE for riding a fixie.

/don't get the love for urban fixed gear bikes.  They are not designed for that.
 
2013-06-07 03:31:42 PM  

OgreMagi: ZeroPly: There's no such thing as a "biker bar". Did you mean a "motorcyclist bar"?

Go ahead and tell these guys.  I'm sure they will be very understanding.

[www.ironhorsebiker.com image 850x595]


You posted the wrong picture. That's some sort of senior citizen bar with really old, wrinkled people. Where are the motorcycles?
 
2013-06-07 03:36:16 PM  

OgreMagi: Go ahead and tell these guys.  I'm sure they will be very understanding.


www.ironhorsebiker.com

I see your biker bar and raise you a cyclist bar...

msnbcmedia.msn.com
 
2013-06-07 03:42:37 PM  

Dimensio: theorellior: That's because we actually have to use muscle power to get going, unlike drivers who might get a blister on their right pinky toe while using the accelerator. But you go on thinking that there's no difference between two-ton steel boxes powered by dino juice and lightweight human machines powered by Pop-Tarts.

As a cyclist, I stop at all red lights and at all stop signs regardless of traffic conditions. Traffic law does not provide exceptions based upon method of acceleration.


Me too...hear, hear!!!
 
2013-06-07 03:45:25 PM  

Stone Meadow: I see your biker bar and raise you a cyclist bar...


OK buddy, you're going to have to explain that photo.
 
2013-06-07 03:47:08 PM  

ZeroPly: OgreMagi: ZeroPly: There's no such thing as a "biker bar". Did you mean a "motorcyclist bar"?

Go ahead and tell these guys.  I'm sure they will be very understanding.

[www.ironhorsebiker.com image 850x595]

You posted the wrong picture. That's some sort of senior citizen bar with really old, wrinkled people. Where are the motorcycles?


Go ahead and tell them that.
 
2013-06-07 03:48:38 PM  

Stone Meadow: OgreMagi: Go ahead and tell these guys.  I'm sure they will be very understanding.

[www.ironhorsebiker.com image 850x595]

I see your biker bar and raise you a cyclist bar...

[msnbcmedia.msn.com image 850x559]


I have no doubt who would win in a biker vs. bicyclist rumble.
 
2013-06-07 03:54:00 PM  

OgreMagi: I have no doubt who would win in a biker vs. bicyclist rumble.


Being that I don't think anyone under 75 uses the term "rumble", I'd say cyclists.
 
2013-06-07 03:54:26 PM  

OgreMagi: Stone Meadow: OgreMagi: Go ahead and tell these guys.  I'm sure they will be very understanding.

[www.ironhorsebiker.com image 850x595]

I see your biker bar and raise you a cyclist bar...

[msnbcmedia.msn.com image 850x559]

I have no doubt who would win in a biker vs. bicyclist rumble.


Why would you have any doubt? The elderly aren't exactly known for their fighting prowess.
 
2013-06-07 03:56:49 PM  

fireclown: Stone Meadow: I see your biker bar and raise you a cyclist bar...

OK buddy, you're going to have to explain that photo.


LOL...no explanation. I just got a chuckle out of Ogre's photo, so GIS'd for 'cyclist bar', and that photo popped up on the first page. Here's the article: Stationary cyclists race inside NYC bar

OgreMagi: I have no doubt who would win in a biker vs. bicyclist rumble.


Me too... ;^)
 
2013-06-07 03:58:12 PM  

Stone Meadow: LOL...no explanation. I just got a chuckle out of Ogre's photo, so GIS'd for 'cyclist bar', and that photo popped up on the first page. Here's the article: Stationary cyclists race inside NYC bar


Isn't that the same as dropping a quarter in the horsey ride in front of the supermarket?
 
2013-06-07 04:01:01 PM  

OgreMagi: Stone Meadow: LOL...no explanation. I just got a chuckle out of Ogre's photo, so GIS'd for 'cyclist bar', and that photo popped up on the first page. Here's the article: Stationary cyclists race inside NYC bar

Isn't that the same as dropping a quarter in the horsey ride in front of the supermarket?


Well, I guess we all now know that you are no cyclist... ;^)
 
2013-06-07 04:02:09 PM  

OgreMagi: Isn't that the same as dropping a quarter in the horsey ride in front of the supermarket?


Not entirely.  In the picture you can make out an old-school roller stand.  I'm betting that the rear rollers are wired to moniitors and they are competing to see who can put out the most energy in a fixed time.  It's sort of a cool idea.  You could use a regular stand as well.  Simpler, but not many people actually ride rollers.  I was never any good at them and stopped a very long time ago.
 
2013-06-07 04:04:12 PM  

Feltonl: Let's get one thing straight.

Bicyclist are NOT BIKERS!

Bikers ride Motorcycles.

carry on.


There a special kind of stupidity for BIKERS;  case in point.
 
2013-06-07 04:10:31 PM  

fireclown: OgreMagi: Isn't that the same as dropping a quarter in the horsey ride in front of the supermarket?

Not entirely.  In the picture you can make out an old-school roller stand.  I'm betting that the rear rollers are wired to moniitors and they are competing to see who can put out the most energy in a fixed time.  It's sort of a cool idea.  You could use a regular stand as well.  Simpler, but not many people actually ride rollers.  I was never any good at them and stopped a very long time ago.


Yeah, they're usually rollers:

imageshack.us

I used to have the balance for that when I was younger. Getting old sucks. A few more decades and the only thing I'll be good for is riding a Harley...
 
2013-06-07 04:14:24 PM  

ZeroPly: fireclown: OgreMagi: Isn't that the same as dropping a quarter in the horsey ride in front of the supermarket?

Not entirely.  In the picture you can make out an old-school roller stand.  I'm betting that the rear rollers are wired to moniitors and they are competing to see who can put out the most energy in a fixed time.  It's sort of a cool idea.  You could use a regular stand as well.  Simpler, but not many people actually ride rollers.  I was never any good at them and stopped a very long time ago.

Yeah, they're usually rollers:

[imageshack.us image 480x360]

I used to have the balance for that when I was younger. Getting old sucks. A few more decades and the only thing I'll be good for is riding a Harley...

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-06-07 04:16:57 PM  

OgreMagi: I used to have the balance for that when I was younger. Getting old sucks. A few more decades and the only thing I'll be good for is riding a Harley...


Oh, you're ADORABLE, OGREMAGI.  Now can you let the grownups talk about bikes?
 
2013-06-07 04:29:44 PM  

Stone Meadow: HindiDiscoMonster: PsyLord: Stone Meadow: PsyLord: Last I checked, my bike doesn't have a speedometer.  Until they mandate all bikes have speedometers, this is BS.

You can fix that for about $10 at Wally World, you know.

Hmm... interesting.  How does that device determine your speed?  I'm just curious because it doesn't look like it's wired to your wheel.  Nor is that item expensive enough to be GPS based.

from one of the comments: "Installation was fairly easy. No tools were required the magnet attached easily to the spoke with a thumb screw and the other end attached to the post with zip ties. The actual computer slipped in easily to the holder which attached to the handle"

Yup. Mine is wireless. I just clipped the magnet onto a spoke, and zip-tied the sensor/transmitter to the fork. Like this:

[www.gadgetspage.com image 400x300]

My bike's sensor uses Bluetooth to communicate with the computer/readout up on the handlebar. Both the sensor and computer use common pancake-style camera batteries. During setup you enter the actual circumference of the tire in millimeters (I used a tape measure). It's very simple and easy to use. Cheap ones like this don't keep cadence or measure watts, but upgraded ones are affordable and easy to install.


isn't bluetooth what you get from eating too many pieces of blueberry pie?
 
2013-06-07 04:31:31 PM  
Idaho Bicycle Law, suck it everyone else. Hey Drew, this doesn't mean we still don't deserve an Idaho tag.

49-720.STOPPING -- TURN AND STOP SIGNALS.(1) A person operating a bicycle or human-powered vehicle approaching a stop sign shall slow down and, if required for safety, stop before entering the intersection. After slowing to a reasonable speed or stopping, the person shall yield the right-of-way to any vehicle in the intersection or approaching on another highway so closely as to constitute an immediate hazard during the time the person is moving across or within the intersection or junction of highways, except that a person after slowing to a reasonable speed and yielding the right-of-way if required, may cautiously make a turn or proceed through the intersection without stopping.(2)A person operating a bicycle or human-powered vehicle approaching a steady red traffic control light shall stop before entering the intersection and shall yield to all other traffic. Once the person has yielded, he may proceed through the steady red light with caution. Provided however, that a person after slowing to a reasonable speed and yielding the right-of-way if required, may cautiously make a right-hand turn. A left-hand turn onto a one-way highway may be made on a red light after stopping and yielding to other traffic.(3)A person riding a bicycle shall comply with the provisions of section(4)A signal of intention to turn right or left shall be given during not less than the last one hundred (100) feet traveled by the bicycle before turning, provided that a signal by hand and arm need not be given if the hand is needed in the control or operation of the bicycle.
 
2013-06-07 05:00:54 PM  
 
2013-06-07 05:47:40 PM  

sunami: The purpose of a stop sign is to facilitate traffic flow.  If on my bike I'm going to slow down and if there's nobody at an intersection I'm not going to stop.  If there is somebody there, I will definitely stop.


you are not very smart and i hope you wear a helmet

also hope the people you inevitably crash with are wearing proper safety gear as well
 
2013-06-07 05:51:40 PM  

6655321: This just in - local government just announced a major contract with a for-profit private company to install and operate bicycle stop sign cameras.

How would a bicyclist be able to determine their speed since a speedometer is not a mandatory item on a two wheeler?


you are right & i too advocate that cyclists on the road should be more road worthy - proper lighting / speedo / proper brakes (no fixies) / ride with your hands on the handle bar not on your smartphone or f'ing with your mp3 or just riding with no hands cause you are so badass

& also demonstrate proficiency with your vehicle of choice like everyone else on public roads  -  i.e. a freaking bike license - complete with fees & insurance

join the party assholes
 
2013-06-07 06:01:46 PM  

inner ted: sunami: The purpose of a stop sign is to facilitate traffic flow.  If on my bike I'm going to slow down and if there's nobody at an intersection I'm not going to stop.  If there is somebody there, I will definitely stop.

you are not very smart and i hope you wear a helmet

also hope the people you inevitably crash with are wearing proper safety gear as well


i0.kym-cdn.com
 
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