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2013-06-07 11:56:28 AM  
Wow. Just. Just wow.
 
2013-06-07 11:58:04 AM  
Since it will be determined that the woman was a complete dumb-ass and will lose her job....should she be allowed to receive unemployment?
 
2013-06-07 11:58:05 AM  
Things like this are why Homer hates New York.
 
2013-06-07 12:01:05 PM  
FTFA:  A note left behind said, "She was casting spells on me."

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That's a stabbin'
 
2013-06-07 12:01:32 PM  
A note left behind said, "She was casting spells on me."

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2013-06-07 12:02:30 PM  

ferretman: Since it will be determined that the woman was a complete dumb-ass and will lose her job....should she be allowed to receive unemployment?


She certainly shouldn't be hired for anything more responsible than being a human paperweight. Wonder if she can be sued?
 
2013-06-07 12:03:01 PM  
Game of telephone. Operator takes down third-hand report from shrink, passes it to dispatcher, who misunderstands it as something ludicrous and impossible (she thought the guy in the loony bin had falsely told his brother that HE had been stabbed, when he had actually said he dreamed he stabbed someone else). Note that subby farked up the story in the headline, too.

Still pretty unprofessional of the dispatcher to giggle her way through it, but you can see how it happened.
 
2013-06-07 12:03:34 PM  
Life could get interesting for the moron dispatcher if they can tie down the time of death accurately enough, and it turns out she wasn't quite dead when the call was made.
 
2013-06-07 12:04:22 PM  

gweilo8888: Life could get interesting for the moron dispatcher if they can tie down the time of death accurately enough, and it turns out she wasn't quite dead when the call was made.


The call was made more than a week after the stabbing. Reading is fundamental.
 
2013-06-07 12:04:27 PM  
Death is but a dream...
 
2013-06-07 12:04:31 PM  

mbillips: Game of telephone. Operator takes down third-hand report from shrink, passes it to dispatcher, who misunderstands it as something ludicrous and impossible (she thought the guy in the loony bin had falsely told his brother that HE had been stabbed, when he had actually said he dreamed he stabbed someone else). Note that subby farked up the story in the headline, too.

Still pretty unprofessional of the dispatcher to giggle her way through it, but you can see how it happened.


Erm. What?

Even if the dispatcher thought it was "ludicrous and impossible", she should have still forwarded the information as taken to the responding officer and allowed him to make the decisions that she made.
 
2013-06-07 12:05:34 PM  
FTFA: A note left behind said, "She was casting spells on me."

Another tragic MMORPG related death.
 
2013-06-07 12:05:58 PM  
That's got to be a tough job and you can't even beat up homeless people as stress relief like the cops do.
 
2013-06-07 12:08:11 PM  
If only she had gotten the details right, she could have saved a life.
 
2013-06-07 12:08:24 PM  
Am I the only one bothered by how the article refers to someone repeatedly as "The Shrink" ?
 
2013-06-07 12:08:51 PM  

hardinparamedic: mbillips: Game of telephone. Operator takes down third-hand report from shrink, passes it to dispatcher, who misunderstands it as something ludicrous and impossible (she thought the guy in the loony bin had falsely told his brother that HE had been stabbed, when he had actually said he dreamed he stabbed someone else). Note that subby farked up the story in the headline, too.

Still pretty unprofessional of the dispatcher to giggle her way through it, but you can see how it happened.

Erm. What?

Even if the dispatcher thought it was "ludicrous and impossible", she should have still forwarded the information as taken to the responding officer and allowed him to make the decisions that she made.


You know how many 911 calls they get in New York from people who are being persecuted by witches, or need to report the theft of their souls? She thought the guy said he dreamed he was stabbed a week ago. The guy had not been stabbed, which was clear from the report, and he was in a psycho ward. So she's passing along a report that makes no sense. Poor reading skills on her part, or maybe poor writing skills on the part of the 911 operator who took down the shrink's second-hand version of the story. It's the Post, so they're gonna take a side, evidence or not.
 
2013-06-07 12:09:50 PM  
The funny part is that Subby is just as much of a dumbass as the dispatcher... The caller wasn't saying that  he got stabbed. The caller was the doctor saying his patient told him he stabbed  someone else.

And this confusion is even highlighted in the article:
[The idiot dispatcher] told a cop no assault had occurred and even mixed up the victim and suspect, mistakenly telling police a hospitalized man wanted his home checked because he dreamed he was attacked there.

So, congrats on your green light, Subby. Shame it's such a monumental failure.
 
2013-06-07 12:11:01 PM  

mbillips: You know how many 911 calls they get in New York from people who are being persecuted by witches, or need to report the theft of their souls? She thought the guy said he dreamed he was stabbed a week ago. The guy had not been stabbed, which was clear from the report, and he was in a psycho ward. So she's passing along a report that makes no sense. Poor reading skills on her part, or maybe poor writing skills on the part of the 911 operator who took down the shrink's second-hand version of the story. It's the Post, so they're gonna take a side, evidence or not.


So, basically, your argument is that she was not malicious in her actions, just either burned out or incompetent?

And she had a report of possible violence from a healthcare provider who is obligated to report that as such. At the very least, an officer should have been sent on a non-emergent, available for emergent call basis to perform follow up and investigation on the matter.
 
2013-06-07 12:11:07 PM  

mbillips: Game of telephone. Operator takes down third-hand report from shrink, passes it to dispatcher, who misunderstands it as something ludicrous and impossible (she thought the guy in the loony bin had falsely told his brother that HE had been stabbed, when he had actually said he dreamed he stabbed someone else). Note that subby farked up the story in the headline, too.

Still pretty unprofessional of the dispatcher to giggle her way through it, but you can see how it happened.


Things get even more confusing when multiple personal pronouns are use as they were in the call. People often have a difficult time telling a story with multiple he's, her's, theirs and ours involved without confusing the listener.
 
2013-06-07 12:11:34 PM  

ferretman: Since it will be determined that the woman was a complete dumb-ass and will lose her job....should she be allowed to receive unemployment?


I believe it is the case that if you are fired for improperly performing your job or violating job ethics, you do not receive unemployment.
 
2013-06-07 12:11:50 PM  

medius: If only she had gotten the details right, she could have saved a life.


If she'd had Obama's time machine. The loony told his brother he'd dreamed about stabbing someone a week after it happened. The brother told the shrink, the shrink called 911, the 911 operator gave the report to the dispatcher, and the dispatcher giggled out a screwed-up version. How it got screwed up is not clear. Probably the dispatcher's fault, but her action had no effect on anything other than the amount the body decayed.
 
2013-06-07 12:12:44 PM  

Enigmamf: I believe it is the case that if you are fired for improperly performing your job or violating job ethics, you do not receive unemployment.


I don't know how NY's dispatchers are licensed and/or certified, but what she did would probably constitute gross negligence and get her certs pulled from her as well.
 
2013-06-07 12:14:51 PM  

hardinparamedic: mbillips: You know how many 911 calls they get in New York from people who are being persecuted by witches, or need to report the theft of their souls? She thought the guy said he dreamed he was stabbed a week ago. The guy had not been stabbed, which was clear from the report, and he was in a psycho ward. So she's passing along a report that makes no sense. Poor reading skills on her part, or maybe poor writing skills on the part of the 911 operator who took down the shrink's second-hand version of the story. It's the Post, so they're gonna take a side, evidence or not.

So, basically, your argument is that she was not malicious in her actions, just either burned out or incompetent?

And she had a report of possible violence from a healthcare provider who is obligated to report that as such. At the very least, an officer should have been sent on a non-emergent, available for emergent call basis to perform follow up and investigation on the matter.


She might not even be incompetent, if it was the 911 operator who miswrote the report. The dispatcher didn't talk to anyone, she read the incident report that the operator took down. It could have been the operator who mixed up the victim/stabber. And she DID tell the patrol cops, who went to the house and knocked. That's what the recording is about.
 
2013-06-07 12:16:35 PM  

mbillips: She might not even be incompetent, if it was the 911 operator who miswrote the report. The dispatcher didn't talk to anyone, she read the incident report that the operator took down. It could have been the operator who mixed up the victim/stabber. And she DID tell the patrol cops, who went to the house and knocked. That's what the recording is about.


This statement is directly contradicted by TFA.
 
2013-06-07 12:18:47 PM  
I believe it.  Most of the dispatchers I worked around were some of the most heartless arseholes I've ever known.  I kept trying to tell my self it was a defense mechanism to keep them from breaking down given the flow of disasters and pain, but not likely.
 
2013-06-07 12:19:31 PM  

hardinparamedic: Wow. Just. Just wow.


Just. Wow just. Wow. Just. Wow. Wow just.
 
2013-06-07 12:20:23 PM  

Hawnkee: I believe it.  Most of the dispatchers I worked around were some of the most heartless arseholes I've ever known.  I kept trying to tell my self it was a defense mechanism to keep them from breaking down given the flow of disasters and pain, but not likely.


Most of us who have done dispatch find being called an asshole to be complementary. :)
 
2013-06-07 12:20:35 PM  

hardinparamedic: Enigmamf: I believe it is the case that if you are fired for improperly performing your job or violating job ethics, you do not receive unemployment.

I don't know how NY's dispatchers are licensed and/or certified, but what she did would probably constitute gross negligence and get her certs pulled from her as well.


She should inquire if positions are available to work in Health and Humans Services under Secretary Kathleen Sebelius.
 
2013-06-07 12:22:18 PM  
Report a possible murder, house doesn't get checked.

Report weed stench, house gets swatted

/good to see that the priorities are in order.
 
2013-06-07 12:24:51 PM  
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2013-06-07 12:25:11 PM  

Hawnkee: I believe it.  Most of the dispatchers I worked around were some of the most heartless arseholes I've ever known.  I kept trying to tell my self it was a defense mechanism to keep them from breaking down given the flow of disasters and pain, but not likely.


One of the most heartless coworkers I ever had, quit to become a 911 dispatcher.  He said it was a job he was trying to get for awhile.  He was getting worse just before he left.  I am just glad his new job is in a different city.
 
2013-06-07 12:27:00 PM  

netcentric: She should inquire if positions are available to work in Health and Humans Services under Secretary Kathleen Sebelius.


You've lost me on that one. Would you care to enlighten?
 
2013-06-07 12:27:52 PM  

hardinparamedic: mbillips: She might not even be incompetent, if it was the 911 operator who miswrote the report. The dispatcher didn't talk to anyone, she read the incident report that the operator took down. It could have been the operator who mixed up the victim/stabber. And she DID tell the patrol cops, who went to the house and knocked. That's what the recording is about.

This statement is directly contradicted by TFA.


The Post says the operator got it right, and passed it to the dispatcher. They also call her "childish," so I'm not taking anything the Post reports as gospel.

From TFA:
"He's not sure if it was real or if it was a dream, but no one has been able to reach [the victim] since," the doctor told one dutiful 911 operator, Vera McFarland.

McFarland accurately and professionally took down the information (says the Post) and said, "I just hope that it's not true, but you never know."

She passed the information to the childish dispatcher, who could barely contain herself, saying the report was "crazy."

The dispatcher then called the patrol cops on their cell, which is what's recorded, because she didn't want to put out something she thought was ludicrous over the air. Obviously, like subby, she thought the man had reported HE had been stabbed.

The cops investigated, but didn't take the door down when there was no response. It wouldn't have mattered if they had, except for the amount of decay the body underwent.

TFA:

But cops weren't told that no one had seen the woman in a week - or that the man's psychiatrist made the call - so they just knocked and left when no one answered, a source said.

The dispatcher failed at reading, if TFA is accurate (it's the NY Post, so YMMV). But she didn't receive the call from the shrink, and she DID tell the cops what she thought the operator's report said.
 
2013-06-07 12:30:52 PM  

BowtoMogul: Am I the only one bothered by how the article refers to someone repeatedly as "The Shrink" ?


Its the Post. Written by 80 IQ reporters for 65 IQ readers.
 
2013-06-07 12:32:31 PM  

mbillips: The dispatcher failed at reading, if TFA is accurate (it's the NY Post, so YMMV). But she didn't receive the call from the shrink, and she DID tell the cops what she thought the operator's report said.


And the definition of incompetence is? With her acting like it was a joke, I'm pretty sure that it would not be a stretch to prove malfeasance and wanton disregard for the standards of her profession, either.

Look. If I, personally, had done something like that, I'd be in front of 12 people in Nashville explaining my actions and thought processes as I begged to keep my licenses.
 
2013-06-07 12:32:31 PM  

LemSkroob: BowtoMogul: Am I the only one bothered by how the article refers to someone repeatedly as "The Shrink" ?

Its the Post. Written by 80 IQ reporters for 65 IQ readers.


This. And the story is "incompetent bureaucrat leaves woman to die," so any facts that don't further that narrative will be ignored or fudged.
 
2013-06-07 12:34:40 PM  

hardinparamedic: mbillips: The dispatcher failed at reading, if TFA is accurate (it's the NY Post, so YMMV). But she didn't receive the call from the shrink, and she DID tell the cops what she thought the operator's report said.

And the definition of incompetence is? With her acting like it was a joke, I'm pretty sure that it would not be a stretch to prove malfeasance and wanton disregard for the standards of her profession, either.

Look. If I, personally, had done something like that, I'd be in front of 12 people in Nashville explaining my actions and thought processes as I begged to keep my licenses.


Well, you obviously know a lot more about the ethics of 911 dispatch than I do. I can totally see giggling about something goofy that a mental patient said in a police report, though, from having covered the cops for a newspaper. It's half the items in the Police Blotter column in the local alternative weekly.
 
2013-06-07 12:36:51 PM  

mbillips: Well, you obviously know a lot more about the ethics of 911 dispatch than I do. I can totally see giggling about something goofy that a mental patient said in a police report, though, from having covered the cops for a newspaper. It's half the items in the Police Blotter column in the local alternative weekly.


There's something to be said about gallows humor, but you don't do it on a recorded line, and you do it after you get done forwarding  accurate information.

If the issue is that she couldn't understand the information being presented to her in the first place, she has no business being behind a dispatch console until she has enough remedial education that she can function there.

If the issue is that she's just burned out, she needs to get mental help through EAP, or take a vacation.
 
2013-06-07 12:51:22 PM  
who cares. did anybody who affects my life personally die?
 
2013-06-07 12:54:46 PM  
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2013-06-07 12:55:56 PM  

mbillips: hardinparamedic: mbillips: The dispatcher failed at reading, if TFA is accurate (it's the NY Post, so YMMV). But she didn't receive the call from the shrink, and she DID tell the cops what she thought the operator's report said.

And the definition of incompetence is? With her acting like it was a joke, I'm pretty sure that it would not be a stretch to prove malfeasance and wanton disregard for the standards of her profession, either.

Look. If I, personally, had done something like that, I'd be in front of 12 people in Nashville explaining my actions and thought processes as I begged to keep my licenses.

Well, you obviously know a lot more about the ethics of 911 dispatch than I do. I can totally see giggling about something goofy that a mental patient said in a police report, though, from having covered the cops for a newspaper. It's half the items in the Police Blotter column in the local alternative weekly.


This/
I mean all she is really guilty of is passing  on poor information.  She did dispatch officers to the scene.  The story was so ridiculous I probably would have chucked myself....
 
2013-06-07 12:56:59 PM  

mbillips: hardinparamedic: mbillips: Game of telephone. Operator takes down third-hand report from shrink, passes it to dispatcher, who misunderstands it as something ludicrous and impossible (she thought the guy in the loony bin had falsely told his brother that HE had been stabbed, when he had actually said he dreamed he stabbed someone else). Note that subby farked up the story in the headline, too.

Still pretty unprofessional of the dispatcher to giggle her way through it, but you can see how it happened.

Erm. What?

Even if the dispatcher thought it was "ludicrous and impossible", she should have still forwarded the information as taken to the responding officer and allowed him to make the decisions that she made.

You know how many 911 calls they get in New York from people who are being persecuted by witches, or need to report the theft of their souls? She thought the guy said he dreamed he was stabbed a week ago. The guy had not been stabbed, which was clear from the report, and he was in a psycho ward. So she's passing along a report that makes no sense. Poor reading skills on her part, or maybe poor writing skills on the part of the 911 operator who took down the shrink's second-hand version of the story. It's the Post, so they're gonna take a side, evidence or not.


It doesn't matter how many calls they get about somebody casting a spell on another person. It is not their job to decide what call is serious and which one is ludicrous.
 
2013-06-07 01:10:03 PM  
I am confused why the call taker who repeated the report very clearly back to the reporting party did not dispatch the call

It does seem like a horrible game of telephone and I can see both sides.

/from a police and fire dispatcher
//we get very farked up calls & I'm not in a large town/city
///yesterday - ufo's and flying go-carts
////baked potato in a mailbox
//guy hallucinated the 2nd coming and didn't want to go - shot up his house
****lack of sleep is why we are assholes (I am working 21hrs today and coming in again after 4 off)****
 
2013-06-07 01:11:53 PM  

ongbok: It doesn't matter how many calls they get about somebody casting a spell on another person. It is not their job to decide what call is serious and which one is ludicrous.


The call was from the Psychiatrist who had reason to believe that the guy had killed someone. Not the person who stabbed the other person because she was casting a spell on him.
 
2013-06-07 02:28:10 PM  
I have had more problems with snarky dispatchers than you can imagine. And yet the police want us to watch things in our neighborhoods and call in suspicious things..yeah. So when I called to complain that some asshat had parked 4 feet over my driveway, it was ok, cause I didn't need to go anywhere...the dude only moved when I came out with a tape measure. And a camera...
 
2013-06-07 02:29:22 PM  

tigerose: I have had more problems with snarky dispatchers than you can imagine. And yet the police want us to watch things in our neighborhoods and call in suspicious things..yeah. So when I called to complain that some asshat had parked 4 feet over my driveway, it was ok, cause I didn't need to go anywhere...the dude only moved when I came out with a tape measure. And a camera...


I hope you didn't call 911 for that.
 
2013-06-07 02:50:52 PM  
This thread up while runs where moonbats desperately argue 911 operators are to be obeyed at all times is quite amusing.
 
2013-06-07 03:44:24 PM  

OnlyM3: This thread up while runs where moonbats desperately argue 911 operators are to be obeyed at all times is quite amusing.

 people state that while 911 operators do not, many times, give legally binding orders, generally their advice is worth taking in mind if you want to keep from killing someone or yourself in a dangerous situation, or if you generally want to keep someone alive until the arrival of people who know what they're doing.

There. Fixed that for you.
 
2013-06-07 04:03:23 PM  

hardinparamedic: OnlyM3: This thread up while runs where moonbats desperately argue 911 operators are to be obeyed at all times is quite amusing. people state that while 911 operators do not, many times, give legally binding orders, generally their advice is worth taking in mind if you want to keep from killing someone or yourself in a dangerous situation, or if you generally want to keep someone alive until the arrival of people who know what they're doing.

There. Fixed that for you.


Oh thank you... thank you so much...
 
2013-06-07 04:14:11 PM  

RedHead87: Oh thank you... thank you so much...


-peaks at profile-

HOLY shiat. YOU'RE A DISPATCHER?
 
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