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(Greeley Tribune)   Not News: Weld County, Colorado leading the charge to make Northern Colorado its own state. News: They're serious. Fark: Weld County is home to many hot nuclear missile silos   (greeleytribune.com) divider line 128
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2013-06-06 08:52:03 PM  
how interesting
 
2013-06-06 09:32:31 PM  
Are they planning to secede from the Union, too?

/because I think those silos might belong to people who'd get a little pissy if anyone tried to f*ck with them
 
2013-06-06 09:40:51 PM  
We've had an influx of people from California over the past few decades, and they don't really get how it works in rural country.

I don't blame them for wanting to leave, the government here is quite literally legislating against their livelihood.
 
2013-06-06 09:49:51 PM  

Damnaged: We've had an influx of people from California over the past few decades, and they don't really get how it works in rural country.

I don't blame them for wanting to leave, the government here is quite literally legislating against their livelihood.


Because there's NO rural country in California, right?

/have you ever even been here?
//the entire Eastern half of the state is more redneck than a lot of the South
 
2013-06-06 10:23:28 PM  
Hot missile silos or MILF silos?
 
2013-06-06 10:23:48 PM  
this Weld seems a bit tacky
 
2013-06-06 10:24:04 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Are they planning to secede from the Union, too?

/because I think those silos might belong to people who'd get a little pissy if anyone tried to f*ck with them


Andre Braugher, please pick up the red courtesy phone....
 
2013-06-06 10:25:48 PM  
It's not like they get to claim the nukes as property of Best Colorado or Frackistan or whatever the hell they would call themselves.

/Secession won't make the ballot anyway.
 
2013-06-06 10:26:53 PM  
Bunch of farking crybabies.  "Waaa!  Waaa!  The educated people in the big cities have more voting power than we do!  Its not fair!  Waaa!  Waaa!"

The dumb ass rednecks in downstate Illinois are pretty much just like this.  The Chicago region pretty much controls the state and they get full of butt hurt every time there is a state-wide election and the votes go against them.  Well, that is democracy in action.  They get their vote (through their representative) just like everyone else.
 
2013-06-06 10:27:09 PM  

ultraholland: this Weld seems a bit tacky


It is.
 
2013-06-06 10:27:35 PM  
Derp.
 
2013-06-06 10:28:22 PM  

Damnaged: We've had an influx of people from California over the past few decades, and they don't really get how it works in rural country.

I don't blame them for wanting to leave, the government here is quite literally legislating against their livelihood.


o how dare we try to find new ways to produce energy, letts just keep burning coal and oil so these poor people will always have jobs
 
2013-06-06 10:30:39 PM  
If North Colorado became the 51st state today, it would be:

» The 42nd largest state with 14,105,020 square miles

» The 51st most populous state with 316,051 residents

Greeley, population 95,357, would be the largest city and likely the state capital.



Ooh, they will just ooze influence.
 
2013-06-06 10:30:41 PM  
2014 is gonna be the most insane election season in Colorado history.
 
2013-06-06 10:32:02 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Because there's NO rural country in California, right?


Yea, but you still have a lot of idiots exporting themselves to Colorado who are running off outdoors and firearm enthusiasts out of a misguided though strict ideological push.
 
2013-06-06 10:34:55 PM  

BSABSVR: If North Colorado became the 51st state today, it would be:

» The 42nd largest state with 14,105,020 square miles

» The 51st most populous state with 316,051 residents

Greeley, population 95,357, would be the largest city and likely the state capital.


Ooh, they will just ooze influence.



Right, but those assholes would get a representative, two senators and three electoral votes. They would be the most represented people per capita in the country.
 
2013-06-06 10:35:13 PM  
Albuquerque has plenty of Nukes. Flying in over the east mountains, almost too many Silos to count. You can see the blast doors as you fly over. BTW, 2 of the Sandia mountains are hollow, not saying which.DOD stuff, you know. How do I know? Working computer support at Sandia Labs, but never mind that.
 
2013-06-06 10:35:20 PM  
This is really over increasing renewable energy standards?
 
2013-06-06 10:36:59 PM  

Mrtraveler01: This is really over increasing renewable energy standards?


Nope.
 
2013-06-06 10:38:13 PM  
New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress. Some of the movements to partition states have or do identify themselves as "secessionist" movements.
 
2013-06-06 10:39:05 PM  

brownribbon: New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress. Some of the movements to partition states have or do identify themselves as "secessionist" movements.


Forgot to cite: Article IV, Section 3, Clause 1
 
2013-06-06 10:39:10 PM  
Get in line, Northern Colorado.
www.stateofjeffersonmc.com
 
2013-06-06 10:39:16 PM  

Mrbogey: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Because there's NO rural country in California, right?

Yea, but you still have a lot of idiots exporting themselves to Colorado who are running off outdoors and firearm enthusiasts out of a misguided though strict ideological push.


Well, I didn't mean to imply they're not idiots

/just that there's plenty of deeply red rural here
//I live in the middle of it
///there are families up here with no branches since 1850
 
2013-06-06 10:42:06 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Damnaged: We've had an influx of people from California over the past few decades, and they don't really get how it works in rural country.

I don't blame them for wanting to leave, the government here is quite literally legislating against their livelihood.

Because there's NO rural country in California, right?

/have you ever even been here?
//the entire Eastern half of the state is more redneck than a lot of the South


Nah, it boils down to this:

"Waaah!  We already get huge handouts and disproportionate representation, but we want mooooore!!!"

Also, even odds says that someone's getting out-of-state funds to explore the idea of stealing national Senate percentage by inventing more red states.
 
2013-06-06 10:44:05 PM  
Statehood won't suffice, they'll still have a black president.
 
2013-06-06 10:44:28 PM  

TheBigJerk: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Damnaged: We've had an influx of people from California over the past few decades, and they don't really get how it works in rural country.

I don't blame them for wanting to leave, the government here is quite literally legislating against their livelihood.

Because there's NO rural country in California, right?

/have you ever even been here?
//the entire Eastern half of the state is more redneck than a lot of the South

Nah, it boils down to this:

"Waaah!  We already get huge handouts and disproportionate representation, but we want mooooore!!!"

Also, even odds says that someone's getting out-of-state funds to explore the idea of stealing national Senate percentage by inventing more red states.


I have no idea what that even means, but, OK
 
2013-06-06 10:45:26 PM  

Hollie Maea: Right, but those assholes would get a representative, two senators and three electoral votes. They would be the most represented people per capita in the country.


And all three would make Louis Gohmert look like an intellectual.  This is an area where the GOP congressional candidate felt that having Steve King come campaign for him would be a real "get".
 
2013-06-06 10:45:44 PM  
I... am surprisingly ok with this.
 
2013-06-06 10:46:17 PM  

TheBigJerk: "Waaah!  We already get huge handouts and disproportionate representation, but we want mooooore!!!"



You got data on that?  I would like to see where thier handouts surpass thier 'representation'.
 
2013-06-06 10:46:44 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Are they planning to secede from the Union, too?

/because I think those silos might belong to people who'd get a little pissy if anyone tried to f*ck with them


I hear they have ways of nuking things into orbit they don't want found.
 
2013-06-06 10:47:53 PM  
MaudlinMutantMollusk : Because there's NO rural country in California, right?

Aren't most of the people in California immigrants from other states to begin with?

How can you tell an imported nutter from a home grown one?

// I've lived in CA for 29 years, but not a "Californian", I don't surf, I don't smoke pot, I think animals are downright tasty and my political views are summarized are "Leave me the fark alone and mind your own business.".
 
2013-06-06 10:49:00 PM  
Interesting, It's probably all about Ob...I mean Hicken, wait, they want to have their own laws about marijuana production.  There's a lot of land out there, and they could do well with solar probably.  Water, I don't know how that would work out.  They'd probably do better if they could get the counties to the western border to join in.

It's been tried recently also, in Vermont.  Link:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killington,_Vermont_secession_movement

FTFA:  While no county has actually seceded from a state in recent years, there have been plenty of threats. Last year, 13 mostly conservative counties proposed to form South California. And last February, a group of attorneys in southern Arizona proposed the new state of Baja Arizona to break away from the more conservative counties in the northern part of the state.

There's also Dade County, GA in North Western Georgia:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dade_County,_Georgia#Quarter_Controversy
 
2013-06-06 10:49:45 PM  

Alphakronik: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Are they planning to secede from the Union, too?

/because I think those silos might belong to people who'd get a little pissy if anyone tried to f*ck with them

I hear they have ways of nuking things into orbit they don't want found.


Having given it some thought, if they let my dumbass reprobate cousin work on those things, there may be some gaping holes in their security procedures
 
2013-06-06 10:51:16 PM  
I went to college in Greeley. Have they fixed the smell yet?

//it had nothing on that whiff we got from Platteville one time though, damn
 
2013-06-06 10:52:23 PM  

lordargent: MaudlinMutantMollusk : Because there's NO rural country in California, right?

Aren't most of the people in California immigrants from other states to begin with?

How can you tell an imported nutter from a home grown one?

// I've lived in CA for 29 years, but not a "Californian", I don't surf, I don't smoke pot, I think animals are downright tasty and my political views are summarized are "Leave me the fark alone and mind your own business.".


Exactly the sort I was describing when I said my county was deep red. This is teabagger country on the East side, and they take it seriously

/I was born and raised here
//I don't surf, either
 
2013-06-06 10:54:13 PM  
TheBigJerk: "Waaah! We already get huge handouts and disproportionate representation, but we want mooooore!!!"

California's population per elector is lower than most of the other states, so if anything, we're under represented with our 678,945 people per elector vs say Vermont and its 210,112 people per elector.

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/Census10/FedRep.phtml

And as far as the federal budget goes, CA pays in more than it takes out you big jerk!
 
2013-06-06 10:54:58 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: TheBigJerk: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Damnaged: We've had an influx of people from California over the past few decades, and they don't really get how it works in rural country.

I don't blame them for wanting to leave, the government here is quite literally legislating against their livelihood.

Because there's NO rural country in California, right?

/have you ever even been here?
//the entire Eastern half of the state is more redneck than a lot of the South

Nah, it boils down to this:

"Waaah!  We already get huge handouts and disproportionate representation, but we want mooooore!!!"

Also, even odds says that someone's getting out-of-state funds to explore the idea of stealing national Senate percentage by inventing more red states.

I have no idea what that even means, but, OK


-Out-of-state rich Republican, let's say Bob Dole, floats the idea (packaged with a bribe) to rural areas that, "hey folks, you should become your own state to cut off those 'stupid intellectuals' in the cities!"

-The idea manages to get traction, gins up the base, but let's say lightning strikes and it actually HAPPENS.  Suddenly a purple or blue state that sends democrats to the senate more often as not is split into a blue state that sends democrats to senate and a red, red state that sends Republicans to the senate every time.

-Suddenly instead of 2 Democrat senators you have 2 democrat senators and 2 Republican senators, effectively zeroing out what WAS a democrat lead.

And right now democrats have the senate, they'd have the house if not for heavy gerrymandering, so "diluting" the pool of senators with more senators makes sense.  For the forseeable future republicans are having to stick with these kind of defense plays, because their attempts at getting anything but the rural white hate-filled asshat vote continue to fall short.  And that voting block is being hedged out.
 
2013-06-06 10:56:21 PM  

Mock26: Bunch of farking crybabies.  "Waaa!  Waaa!  The educated people in the big cities have more voting power than we do!  Its not fair!  Waaa!  Waaa!"

The dumb ass rednecks in downstate Illinois are pretty much just like this.  The Chicago region pretty much controls the state and they get full of butt hurt every time there is a state-wide election and the votes go against them.  Well, that is democracy in action.  They get their vote (through their representative) just like everyone else.


Someone from Chicago educating us on politics. How...dickfaced.
 
2013-06-06 10:58:06 PM  
I like this from the article:

He said Weld County hardly sees a return from its financial contributions to the state. Conway said he has watched as transportation corridors in the Denver area continue to be improved while Interstate 76, a vital corridor for Colorado's agricultural counties, remains in deplorable condition.

Could it be because explosions keep damaging the road?

i151.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-06 10:58:39 PM  

TheBigJerk: -Out-of-state rich Republican, let's say Bob Dole, floats the idea (packaged with a bribe) to rural areas that, "hey folks, you should become your own state to cut off those 'stupid intellectuals' in the cities!"

-The idea manages to get traction, gins up the base, but let's say lightning strikes and it actually HAPPENS.  Suddenly a purple or blue state that sends democrats to the senate more often as not is split into a blue state that sends democrats to senate and a red, red state that sends Republicans to the senate every time.

-Suddenly instead of 2 Democrat senators you have 2 democrat senators and 2 Republican senators, effectively zeroing out what WAS a democrat lead.

And right now democrats have the senate, they'd have the house if not for heavy gerrymandering, so "diluting" the pool of senators with more senators makes sense.  For the forseeable future republicans are having to stick with these kind of defense plays, because their attempts at getting anything but the rural white hate-filled asshat vote continue to fall short.  And that voting block is being hedged out.


Ah, gotcha. I think it's less serious than that, though

/I'm amongst those who regularly advocate splitting California into more manageable chunks
//I think we all know that neither California nor Colorado is going to split anytime soon, so it's just idle bullsh*t
 
2013-06-06 10:58:52 PM  

HeadLever: TheBigJerk: "Waaah!  We already get huge handouts and disproportionate representation, but we want mooooore!!!"


You got data on that?  I would like to see where thier handouts surpass thier 'representation'.


Rural areas like north Colorado get larger handouts, because you simply need longer roads and pipelines and cables to get shiat out there.  It's a stereotype, but I've yet to see an instance where it's wrong.

Disproportionate representation?  See every argument about "dirt doesn't vote" ever.

Yeah all right, I'm assuming, but it's a pretty safe assumption.
 
2013-06-06 10:59:04 PM  
Just havin' a tantrum.  Won't happen.  Still waiting for a North / South California division
 
2013-06-06 11:00:49 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: lordargent: MaudlinMutantMollusk :
//I don't surf, either


Charlie, is that you?   www.redskytoledo.com
 
2013-06-06 11:01:54 PM  

TheBigJerk: Rural areas like north Colorado get larger handouts, because you simply need longer roads and pipelines and cables to get shiat out there. It's a stereotype, but I've yet to see an instance where it's wrong.


Where is your supporting data on this specific county?  Or are you just talking out your arse?
 
2013-06-06 11:02:13 PM  
There's a strong belief that the Mayor of Colorado...I mean, the Governor of Denver...oh, hell, John Chickenlooper is in the pocket of Michael Bloomberg. The most liberal state legislature in history passed 441 bills this year, and John didn't veto a one. Straight down the party line, after running as a moderate, pro-business Dem.

Problem is, the Republican Party in Colorado is a circular firing squad and doesn't deserve to win any elections.
 
2013-06-06 11:03:25 PM  
Once again, rich people come up with another way to get richer. "uhmmm....Jobs, people, we will get you more jobs, just go along with us!"
 
2013-06-06 11:04:23 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: TheBigJerk: -Out-of-state rich Republican, let's say Bob Dole, floats the idea (packaged with a bribe) to rural areas that, "hey folks, you should become your own state to cut off those 'stupid intellectuals' in the cities!"

-The idea manages to get traction, gins up the base, but let's say lightning strikes and it actually HAPPENS.  Suddenly a purple or blue state that sends democrats to the senate more often as not is split into a blue state that sends democrats to senate and a red, red state that sends Republicans to the senate every time.

-Suddenly instead of 2 Democrat senators you have 2 democrat senators and 2 Republican senators, effectively zeroing out what WAS a democrat lead.

And right now democrats have the senate, they'd have the house if not for heavy gerrymandering, so "diluting" the pool of senators with more senators makes sense.  For the forseeable future republicans are having to stick with these kind of defense plays, because their attempts at getting anything but the rural white hate-filled asshat vote continue to fall short.  And that voting block is being hedged out.

Ah, gotcha. I think it's less serious than that, though

/I'm amongst those who regularly advocate splitting California into more manageable chunks
//I think we all know that neither California nor Colorado is going to split anytime soon, so it's just idle bullsh*t


Probably, but I've noticed Republicans playing a lot of "long odds" bets.  It doesn't take much to buy a county commissioner, and even when you lose you get the base fired up with talk of those evil, effete intellectuals and stupid city folks with their book-lernin', which wins midterms and local elections, which continues the strategy the GOP has been playing for a while of winning state elections and then fighting for "state's rights" (specifically the right to be exploited).

Similar to WalMart's business model of going after the untapped smaller markets instead of competing in the big cities, until they were so huge they could crush such competition.
 
2013-06-06 11:08:02 PM  

Daedalus27: I like this from the article:

He said Weld County hardly sees a return from its financial contributions to the state. Conway said he has watched as transportation corridors in the Denver area continue to be improved while Interstate 76, a vital corridor for Colorado's agricultural counties, remains in deplorable condition.

Could it be because explosions keep damaging the road?

[i151.photobucket.com image 637x477]


Lol, played that game also.
 
2013-06-06 11:08:22 PM  

blacksho89: Mock26: Bunch of farking crybabies.  "Waaa!  Waaa!  The educated people in the big cities have more voting power than we do!  Its not fair!  Waaa!  Waaa!"

The dumb ass rednecks in downstate Illinois are pretty much just like this.  The Chicago region pretty much controls the state and they get full of butt hurt every time there is a state-wide election and the votes go against them.  Well, that is democracy in action.  They get their vote (through their representative) just like everyone else.

Someone from Chicago educating us on politics. How...dickfaced.


Quiet you. All people in major metropolitan areas are superior.

I find it curious how some regions think they're wealthy because they're so "gosh darn" smart and it has nothing to do with geography or being the seat of gov't.
 
2013-06-06 11:08:44 PM  

Baby Buzzard: I went to college in Greeley. Have they fixed the smell yet?

//it had nothing on that whiff we got from Platteville one time though, damn


No. I work in Greeley, and it's rank, particularly on the days they burn the leftovers.
 
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