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(Slate)   Should straight actors play gay characters, or should those roles rightly go to Tom Cruise and John Travolta?   (slate.com) divider line 104
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2013-06-06 11:42:26 AM
No, and furthermore only Space Marines should play Space Marines. I find it too difficult to appreciate an actor's skill if they have to, you know, *act*.
 
2013-06-06 11:45:07 AM
Gayface? Can that just stop being a thing immediately?
 
2013-06-06 11:49:37 AM
oh, for fark's sake. it's acting.
 
2013-06-06 11:50:54 AM
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2013-06-06 11:51:22 AM
So? gay actors have been playing straight characters for decades. Sometimes better than straights do.
 
2013-06-06 11:55:54 AM

thismomentinblackhistory: Gayface? Can that just stop being a thing immediately?


It sounds like an insult you'd hear thrown around at a middle school 'Hey gayface, why is your face so gay hahahahaha!'

I thought that both Douglas and Damon did a great job in Candelabra.  Scott Bakula was interesting, it was a gay character, but had none of the stereotypical gay mannerisms, which was cool, probably much more real to life than most Hollywood gay portrayals.

The one thing that really surprised me was Damon's Thorson character and how he got into the big fight with Liberace about how he wouldn't ever 'receive'.  I understand that amongst gay men there is generally a preference for being a 'top' or a 'bottom' but I just figured that they pretty much all took turns to some degree there.

Apparently there's so much that I don't know about gay sex.
 
2013-06-06 11:56:34 AM
So gays should always be typecast?
 
2013-06-06 11:59:52 AM
I couldn't stand Tom Hanks until I saw Philadelphia. I knew he was in it, but I was interested in the story.

Total respect for him after that.
 
2013-06-06 12:03:39 PM

Godscrack: I couldn't stand Tom Hanks until I saw Philadelphia. I knew he was in it, but I was interested in the story.

Total respect for him after that.


It probably doesn't hurt that Philadelphia came right before Apollo 13, Forrest Gump, and Toy Story.  That's a hell of a well respected blockbuster run in consecutive years for any actor.
 
2013-06-06 12:12:01 PM

TuteTibiImperes: I understand that amongst gay men there is generally a preference for being a 'top' or a 'bottom' but I just figured that they pretty much all took turns to some degree there.


For a lot of gay men in relationships it has more to do with what each particular dude had for lunch earlier that day. There. The secret is out.
 
2013-06-06 12:14:02 PM
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2013-06-06 12:20:22 PM
Does that mean gay actors can't play straight men anymore, either?  Tall people can't play Hobbits?
 
2013-06-06 12:22:17 PM

Nabb1: Does that mean gay actors can't play straight men anymore, either?


Both Nathan Lane and NPH are good at the lecherous types.
 
2013-06-06 12:25:06 PM

ManateeGag: Nabb1: Does that mean gay actors can't play straight men anymore, either?

Both Nathan Lane and NPH are good at the lecherous types.


For real.  If Neal Patrick Harris can't play a shameless Lothario anymore, I don't want to live in this world.
 
2013-06-06 12:25:52 PM

Nabb1: Does that mean gay actors can't play straight men anymore, either?  Tall people can't play Hobbits?


I'd be OK with this if it meant all actors couldn't wear fat suits, and instead had to balloon up the old fashioned way.
 
2013-06-06 12:27:03 PM

ManateeGag: Nabb1: Does that mean gay actors can't play straight men anymore, either?

Both Nathan Lane and NPH are good at the lecherous types.


Lane does more of a campy lecherous thing that does require a bit of suspension of disbelief, but I'd be happy to watch him play anything.  The 'A Funny Thing Happened on the way to the Forum' revival with him and Mark Linn-Baker was one of the best Broadway shoes I've ever seen.

NPH is just so incredibly versatile that he really can do anything.
 
2013-06-06 01:14:25 PM
As a gay man and a Thespian, let me just say:

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2013-06-06 01:17:05 PM
What about bi actors?  Can they play both?

How about if they go gay just while filming?
 
2013-06-06 01:17:23 PM

Diogenes: As a gay man and a Thespian, let me just say:

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I miss seeing Jon Lovitz in stuff.  Netflix should look into remaking The Critic, that was a damn fine show.
 
2013-06-06 01:29:15 PM
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General Zod and Matrix Agent in drag.

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2013-06-06 01:32:38 PM

vernonFL: General Zod and Matrix Agent in drag.


Kneel before Zod!

/"Drag" doesn't necessarily mean "gay".
 
2013-06-06 01:34:00 PM
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Madness!
 
2013-06-06 02:20:57 PM
I knew this would happen as soon as queer marriage gained acceptance.
 
2013-06-06 02:27:43 PM
If you want homosexuality to become as marginalized in Hollywood as deafness has, then yes.

/Seriously, are there any deaf roles that don't go to Marlee Matlin or Shoshannah Stern?
 
2013-06-06 02:28:20 PM

IlGreven: If you want homosexuality to become as marginalized in Hollywood as deafness has, then yes, only gay actors should play them.

/Seriously, are there any deaf roles that don't go to Marlee Matlin or Shoshannah Stern?


FTFM
 
2013-06-06 02:29:38 PM

FlashHarry: oh, for fark's sake. it's acting.


Emboldened, underlined and emibggened for emphasis.  I don't care whether the actor playing a gay character is straight, gay, or bi in real life as long as the actor can act.  Heck, I don't care about the sexuality of any actor playing a gay, straight, bi, or omni-sexual character as long as the actor can act.

/ Should not be obscure.
 
2013-06-06 02:30:31 PM

IlGreven: IlGreven: If you want homosexuality to become as marginalized in Hollywood as deafness has, then yes, only gay actors should play them.

/Seriously, are there any deaf roles that don't go to Marlee Matlin or Shoshannah Stern?

FTFM


If a non-disabled person could pull off the deaf voice without making it sound like an insulting parody, sure, they should get a shot.
 
2013-06-06 02:31:02 PM
All roles should go to macho white guys.

ALL TEH ROLES!!!

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2013-06-06 02:33:07 PM

Godscrack: So? gay actors have been playing straight characters for decades. Sometimes better than straights do.


Sometimes?
 
2013-06-06 02:33:12 PM
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2013-06-06 02:33:35 PM

IlGreven: /Seriously, are there any deaf roles that don't go to Marlee Matlin or Shoshannah Stern?


In the movie "Babel" there is a Japanese female deaf person.
 
2013-06-06 02:35:24 PM
FlashHarry: oh, for fark's sake. it'sacting.

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This.
 
2013-06-06 02:38:33 PM
never go full retard.
 
2013-06-06 02:39:01 PM
Never watched Six Feet Under (didn't have HBO), but I understand that Michael C Hall did an excellent job as a gay character.
 
2013-06-06 02:42:03 PM
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2013-06-06 02:42:44 PM
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2013-06-06 02:43:38 PM
If a straight actor plays a flaming gay stereotype, that's a little offensive, but really not much more so than a gay actor doing the same. If a straight actor plays a regular person who happens to fark and love men, that's fine by me.
 
2013-06-06 02:47:22 PM
That might just be the most stupid thing I have ever read...
 
2013-06-06 02:49:07 PM

Gecko Gingrich: vernonFL: General Zod and Matrix Agent in drag.

Kneel before Zod!

/"Drag" doesn't necessarily mean "gay".


Yep. Zod was a transsexual and Agent Smith was straight in that film.
 
2013-06-06 02:52:04 PM
Slate is so awful these days it shocks me it's still being minted.
 
2013-06-06 02:53:53 PM

TuteTibiImperes: NPH is just so incredibly versatile that he really can do anything.


I saw an episode of How I met your Mother guest starring Wayne Brady (who is presumably straight) as his gay brother. So he's versatile enough to act like a straight man having to "accept" his brother's gayness and do it with a straight face. I'm not sure what his personal thoughts were at the time but it was gut-wrenching to watch the scene in that context.

/not sure of the exact timing of his coming out but that and the episode in question both came happened in November 2006. Were any NPH fans following that when it happened?
 
2013-06-06 03:00:39 PM

Zombalupagus: TuteTibiImperes: NPH is just so incredibly versatile that he really can do anything.

I saw an episode of How I met your Mother guest starring Wayne Brady (who is presumably straight) as his gay brother. So he's versatile enough to act like a straight man having to "accept" his brother's gayness and do it with a straight face. I'm not sure what his personal thoughts were at the time but it was gut-wrenching to watch the scene in that context.

/not sure of the exact timing of his coming out but that and the episode in question both came happened in November 2006. Were any NPH fans following that when it happened?


I remember seeing that episode, and I seem to recall it coming out shortly after NPH came out.  It would have probably had to have been filmed before the coming out, but the timing was pretty cool.
 
2013-06-06 03:03:18 PM
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I think it's fine. And yes, I know variations of T are not necessarily G, but I wanted to post this because I've been watching Twin Peaks and this made me love David Duchovny even more.
 
2013-06-06 03:04:06 PM
I have a friend who was, for quite awhile, CONVINCED gay actors couldn't play straight characters because it wasn't "believable."

One of his absolute favorite characters on TV? Neal Caffrey from White Collar.

/I spent a lot of time laughing to myself about that.
 
2013-06-06 03:07:10 PM
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2013-06-06 03:09:05 PM

browneye: Never watched Six Feet Under (didn't have HBO), but I understand that Michael C Hall did an excellent job as a gay character.


Wait, does that mean that he's not a serial killer in real life? He plays on on Dexter. I thought only serial killers should play serial killers?
 
2013-06-06 03:10:38 PM

IlGreven: If you want homosexuality to become as marginalized in Hollywood as deafness has, then yes.

/Seriously, are there any deaf roles that don't go to Marlee Matlin or Shoshannah Stern?


Gene Wilder?

/I think it was the blind guy.
 
2013-06-06 03:12:13 PM
Eh, if you can act better than someone else, then you should get the role unless a physical difference is essential to the plot.
 
2013-06-06 03:13:01 PM

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2013-06-06 03:13:34 PM

vernonFL: browneye: Never watched Six Feet Under (didn't have HBO), but I understand that Michael C Hall did an excellent job as a gay character.

Wait, does that mean that he's not a serial killer in real life? He plays on on Dexter. I thought only serial killers should play serial killers?


It is always a bit jarring when you see someone that's closely associated with a certain role doing things that are completely at odds with that character.

I saw some interview with Alison Brie where she was talking about her past involving a lot of kinky sex and it almost made my brain reboot.
 
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