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(Inland Valley Daily Bulletin)   Newest Southern Cal police freeway chase enthusiast is a motorcyclist who whipped off his helmet to smash adjacent cars, stand upright on his seat at 100 mph. This is why we need ObamaCare   (dailybulletin.com) divider line 60
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2013-06-06 02:23:51 AM
Every time I read about an idiot who pulls stunts like this on a motorcycle and lives, a little part of my sanity rages furiously and kills itself.
 
2013-06-06 03:19:59 AM
I've wanted to smash adjacent cars with my helmet.

I don't ride an "import-style" motorcycle though... whatever the fark that is.
 
2013-06-06 03:56:54 AM

Pray 4 Mojo: I've wanted to smash adjacent cars with my helmet.

I don't ride an "import-style" motorcycle though... whatever the fark that is.


Crotch-Rocket, most likely something like a Ninja or similar rice-burner bike.
 
2013-06-06 06:15:12 AM

MmmmBacon: Pray 4 Mojo: I've wanted to smash adjacent cars with my helmet.

I don't ride an "import-style" motorcycle though... whatever the fark that is.

Crotch-Rocket, most likely something like a Ninja or similar rice-burner bike.


Not a Triumph or Beamer?
 
2013-06-06 07:02:33 AM

MmmmBacon: Pray 4 Mojo: I've wanted to smash adjacent cars with my helmet.

I don't ride an "import-style" motorcycle though... whatever the fark that is.

Crotch-Rocket, most likely something like a Ninja or similar rice-burner bike.


I thought Kawasakis were made in Nebraska.
 
2013-06-06 09:21:38 AM
You mean, ObamaCARS, am I right?
 
2013-06-06 09:47:34 AM
Subtard is a troll. A piss poor one, at that.
 
2013-06-06 09:49:38 AM
Another reason I laugh at California:  Your whole state will stop to watch a police chase.
 
2013-06-06 09:50:06 AM
In all seriousness: Did a 4th grader write this article?
 
2013-06-06 09:53:36 AM

jayhawk88: In all seriousness: Did a 4th grader write this article?


No pics, no video?
 
2013-06-06 09:54:01 AM

dr_blasto: MmmmBacon: Pray 4 Mojo: I've wanted to smash adjacent cars with my helmet.

I don't ride an "import-style" motorcycle though... whatever the fark that is.

Crotch-Rocket, most likely something like a Ninja or similar rice-burner bike.

I thought Kawasakis were made in Nebraska.


Don't they grow rice in Nebraska?
 
2013-06-06 09:54:18 AM

FrancoFile: jayhawk88: In all seriousness: Did a 4th grader write this article?

No pics, no video?

 
2013-06-06 10:00:41 AM

2wolves: Not a Triumph or Beamer?


The Triumph Daytona or Speed Triple could be described as a "eel pie rocket"
 
2013-06-06 10:01:23 AM

SurelyShirley: dr_blasto: MmmmBacon: Pray 4 Mojo: I've wanted to smash adjacent cars with my helmet.

I don't ride an "import-style" motorcycle though... whatever the fark that is.

Crotch-Rocket, most likely something like a Ninja or similar rice-burner bike.

I thought Kawasakis were made in Nebraska.

Don't they grow rice in Nebraska?


No.  But they grow a buttload of it in Arkansas.
 
2013-06-06 10:05:55 AM

2wolves: MmmmBacon: Pray 4 Mojo: I've wanted to smash adjacent cars with my helmet.

I don't ride an "import-style" motorcycle though... whatever the fark that is.

Crotch-Rocket, most likely something like a Ninja or similar rice-burner bike.

Not a Triumph or Beamer?


Moto Guzzi?
 
2013-06-06 10:09:54 AM
I don't understand. Are you implying that because of some randomly reckless dumbass millions of people (including children) should suffer needlessly due to treatable illnesses that very likely would culminate into emergency room situations that end up costing the government far more than the initial preventative treatment, subby?

Also with decent medical coverage perhaps this obviously troubled individual could have received psychiatric treatment before going on his little rampage that probably cost tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars in police and other emergency resources and endangered many more lives than just his own.

I bet you think you are a conservative... but I assure you, if you are against proper healthcare for all, you are not. You are more wasteful then libbiest lib that ever did lib.
 
2013-06-06 10:13:32 AM

FTDA: Not a Triumph or Beamer?

Moto Guzzi?


www.mcnews.com.au
Perhaps it was a pasta rocket.
 
GBB
2013-06-06 10:29:08 AM
Please, go on and tell me why I still need to
pnwriders.com

/someone still uses MySpace?
 
2013-06-06 10:42:09 AM

tripleseven: Another reason I laugh at California:  Your whole state will stop to watch a police chase.


Guilty as charged - it was a pretty good chase, too. Ended anticlimactically, but I suppose that's for the best.
 
2013-06-06 10:43:07 AM

GBB: Please, go on and tell me why I still need to
[pnwriders.com image 384x115]

/someone still uses MySpace?


One crazy guy on a motorcycle makes negligent homicide okay?
 
2013-06-06 10:45:43 AM

GBB: Please, go on and tell me why I still need to look twice for bikes...


Ohhh, boy. Now you've done it. That's a can of worms you don't want to open with me in the thread.

But I'll launch ahead.

Because not all motorcycle riders are assholes on the road. Because maybe they have long commutes and want to save gas. Because maybe he and his lovely newlywed wife have only one car between them and she uses it to get to HER work. Because maybe, just maybe, if you're an inconsiderate driver who is in a gigantic SUV or semi truck and you don't pay attention and cross a solid double yellow while making a left hand turn, you might just kill a very responsible rider and that guy's 23 year old widow gets a really freakin' rough phone call later that night.

Don't be a douche.

/CSS
 
2013-06-06 10:48:53 AM

tripleseven: Another reason I laugh at California:  Your whole state will stop to watch a police chase.


From TFA: California has been dubbed the vehicle pursuit capital of the country so when someone decides to run from law enforcement it has to be pretty interesting to garner media attention,

Of course we stop and watch it! We know it's the best!
 
GBB
2013-06-06 10:54:51 AM

kiwimoogle84: GBB: Please, go on and tell me why I still need to look twice for bikes...

Ohhh, boy. Now you've done it. That's a can of worms you don't want to open with me in the thread.

But I'll launch ahead.

Because not all motorcycle riders are assholes on the road. Because maybe they have long commutes and want to save gas. Because maybe he and his lovely newlywed wife have only one car between them and she uses it to get to HER work. Because maybe, just maybe, if you're an inconsiderate driver who is in a gigantic SUV or semi truck and you don't pay attention and cross a solid double yellow while making a left hand turn, you might just kill a very responsible rider and that guy's 23 year old widow gets a really freakin' rough phone call later that night.

Don't be a douche.

/CSS


Oh, I see.  Because of a few drivers that have killed motorcycle riders, ALL drivers need to be chastised about our driving behavior.  But when Bike Week comes to town and hordes of bikers are out doing stunts and acting like jackasses, or they cut and weave in-and-out of traffic on a regular basis that doesn't make the news, we can't have a "Ride your motorcycle responsibly" campaign, or a more simple "Don't be a douche on 2-wheels" bumper sticker.

Thanks for clearing that up.
 
2013-06-06 11:08:27 AM

GBB: kiwimoogle84: GBB: Please, go on and tell me why I still need to look twice for bikes...

Ohhh, boy. Now you've done it. That's a can of worms you don't want to open with me in the thread.

But I'll launch ahead.

Because not all motorcycle riders are assholes on the road. Because maybe they have long commutes and want to save gas. Because maybe he and his lovely newlywed wife have only one car between them and she uses it to get to HER work. Because maybe, just maybe, if you're an inconsiderate driver who is in a gigantic SUV or semi truck and you don't pay attention and cross a solid double yellow while making a left hand turn, you might just kill a very responsible rider and that guy's 23 year old widow gets a really freakin' rough phone call later that night.

Don't be a douche.

/CSS

Oh, I see.  Because of a few drivers that have killed motorcycle riders, ALL drivers need to be chastised about our driving behavior.  But when Bike Week comes to town and hordes of bikers are out doing stunts and acting like jackasses, or they cut and weave in-and-out of traffic on a regular basis that doesn't make the news, we can't have a "Ride your motorcycle responsibly" campaign, or a more simple "Don't be a douche on 2-wheels" bumper sticker.

Thanks for clearing that up.


Don't get me wrong, when I rode I took a responsible rider course. I hardly ever cut lanes and I never weaved in and out of traffic like an asshole. I despise riders who make all riders look bad- so you have a point. But my first husband was killed by an idiot who didn't bother taking in his surroundings, and he was one of the safest riders I ever knew. Bikers are smaller- they tend to be overlooked. Hence the look twice thing. All I'm saying is it doesn't hurt you to be a considerate driver. It might prevent someone's life from being just about completely ruined.
 
2013-06-06 11:10:42 AM

GBB: Oh, I see. Because of a few drivers that have killed motorcycle riders, ALL drivers need to be chastised about our driving behavior. But when Bike Week comes to town and hordes of bikers are out doing stunts and acting like jackasses, or they cut and weave in-and-out of traffic on a regular basis that doesn't make the news, we can't have a "Ride your motorcycle responsibly" campaign, or a more simple "Don't be a douche on 2-wheels" bumper sticker.

Thanks for clearing that up.


1) Following the rules of the road and double checking your blind spots is something you should do anyway to avoid MANY things like other cars, pedestrians, debris, etc. Not just motorcycles. Keep your damned eyes open.

2) If you are following the rules of the road and being observant of others on said road you are not the focus of the motorcyclists ire. However there are many motorists who are not just negligent but actively aggressive towards cyclists and bikers. Your statements lead me to believe you are one of those types.

3) Responsible motorcyclists don't like the unsafe asshats either. Also if they are being idiots and cause a wreck then no one except the rare idiot is going to judge you and the legal system will not either.

4) Who exactly is preventing you from having a campaign to raise awareness about dangerous motorcycling or adorning your bumper with your opinions on the matter? Free speech is still technically a right and you may use it just as they can.

5) I may be wrong but I have a feeling Miss Moogle was speaking from personal experience. You may want to take that into account while speaking about a potentially sensitive subject to someone who mostly seems like a nice person.

6) I think you're trolling but when it comes to discussions about cyclists/bikers vs. motorists Poe and his laws tend to come into play.
 
2013-06-06 11:12:59 AM
And I seem to have been correct.

That sucks, Kiwi. Condolences. I lost an uncle due to a motorcycle accident. He was apparently being a dumbass though.
 
2013-06-06 11:14:46 AM

kiwimoogle84: GBB: kiwimoogle84: GBB: Please, go on and tell me why I still need to look twice for bikes...

Ohhh, boy. Now you've done it. That's a can of worms you don't want to open with me in the thread.

But I'll launch ahead.

Because not all motorcycle riders are assholes on the road. Because maybe they have long commutes and want to save gas. Because maybe he and his lovely newlywed wife have only one car between them and she uses it to get to HER work. Because maybe, just maybe, if you're an inconsiderate driver who is in a gigantic SUV or semi truck and you don't pay attention and cross a solid double yellow while making a left hand turn, you might just kill a very responsible rider and that guy's 23 year old widow gets a really freakin' rough phone call later that night.

Don't be a douche.

/CSS

Oh, I see.  Because of a few drivers that have killed motorcycle riders, ALL drivers need to be chastised about our driving behavior.  But when Bike Week comes to town and hordes of bikers are out doing stunts and acting like jackasses, or they cut and weave in-and-out of traffic on a regular basis that doesn't make the news, we can't have a "Ride your motorcycle responsibly" campaign, or a more simple "Don't be a douche on 2-wheels" bumper sticker.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Don't get me wrong, when I rode I took a responsible rider course. I hardly ever cut lanes and I never weaved in and out of traffic like an asshole. I despise riders who make all riders look bad- so you have a point. But my first husband was killed by an idiot who didn't bother taking in his surroundings, and he was one of the safest riders I ever knew. Bikers are smaller- they tend to be overlooked. Hence the look twice thing. All I'm saying is it doesn't hurt you to be a considerate driver. It might prevent someone's life from being just about completely ruined.


fc02.deviantart.net
 
2013-06-06 11:15:04 AM

jayhawk88: In all seriousness: Did a 4th grader write this article?


So close! 3rd grader.
 
2013-06-06 11:16:18 AM
Here to help-

"3) Responsible motorcyclists don't like the unsafe asshats either. Also if they are being idiots and cause a wreck then no one except the rare idiot is going to judge you and the legal system will not either."

I can't THIS enough. The legal system is already biased against motorcycle riders, you don't have to make worse by cutting them off or opening your door when they cut through at a red light. That's happened to me before.
 
2013-06-06 11:18:14 AM

here to help: And I seem to have been correct.

That sucks, Kiwi. Condolences. I lost an uncle due to a motorcycle accident. He was apparently being a dumbass though.


Motorcycle threads are like spider threads for me. I know good things don't await me when I come into them, but I always do anyway. *shrug* Thanks, and I'm just grateful the current mister kiwi loved me enough to sell his bike when we got serious. I'd never sleep again had he not.
 
2013-06-06 11:25:31 AM
When I saw this asshole had struck cars with his helmet, I was hoping he was wearing it at the time.
 
2013-06-06 11:26:30 AM

kiwimoogle84: I can't THIS enough. The legal system is already biased against motorcycle riders, you don't have to make worse by cutting them off or opening your door when they cut through at a red light. That's happened to me before.


I was an extremely cautious and considerate cyclist (pedal bike) and still almost died on a semi regular basis due to irresponsible and outright aggressive drivers. I was just trying to get to work FFS. I even had a city transit guy try to run me over with his bus. When I caught up to him at the next stop he just laughed at me. I just about drug him out into the street but didn't feel like going to jail that day. I tried to report him but the transit people didn't give a sh*t.
 
2013-06-06 11:30:07 AM
Oh and when I was little kid a had a summer job that I had to ride along a short stretch of highway to get to. The truckers used to run me off the shoulder into the drainage ditch. Jag offs.
 
2013-06-06 11:32:27 AM
Assuming Subby means Obamacare = Euthanasia
 
GBB
2013-06-06 11:39:22 AM

here to help: GBB: Oh, I see. Because of a few drivers that have killed motorcycle riders, ALL drivers need to be chastised about our driving behavior. But when Bike Week comes to town and hordes of bikers are out doing stunts and acting like jackasses, or they cut and weave in-and-out of traffic on a regular basis that doesn't make the news, we can't have a "Ride your motorcycle responsibly" campaign, or a more simple "Don't be a douche on 2-wheels" bumper sticker.

Thanks for clearing that up.

1) Following the rules of the road and double checking your blind spots is something you should do anyway to avoid MANY things like other cars, pedestrians, debris, etc. Not just motorcycles. Keep your damned eyes open.

2) If you are following the rules of the road and being observant of others on said road you are not the focus of the motorcyclists ire. However there are many motorists who are not just negligent but actively aggressive towards cyclists and bikers. Your statements lead me to believe you are one of those types.

3) Responsible motorcyclists don't like the unsafe asshats either. Also if they are being idiots and cause a wreck then no one except the rare idiot is going to judge you and the legal system will not either.

4) Who exactly is preventing you from having a campaign to raise awareness about dangerous motorcycling or adorning your bumper with your opinions on the matter? Free speech is still technically a right and you may use it just as they can.

5) I may be wrong but I have a feeling Miss Moogle was speaking from personal experience. You may want to take that into account while speaking about a potentially sensitive subject to someone who mostly seems like a nice person.

6) I think you're trolling but when it comes to discussions about cyclists/bikers vs. motorists Poe and his laws tend to come into play.


Partly trolling, yes.  But mostly to point out the hypocrisy of the "look twice for bikes" campaign.  It annoys me to no end.

I'd like to think of myself as a responsible driver.  Never had an accident and have avoided more than I care to count.  I also think that from a generic prospective that smaller entities have a greater need to look out for larger ones, opposed from vise-versa.  Trains are generally not blamed for accidents with cars or pedestrians.  I also take a bit of offense toward the connotation that it's solely the automobile driver's responsibility to keep an eye on motorcycles.  I fully understand that there are accidents that are purely the fault of the auto driver, especially when they make left turns in the path of a bike and the bike has 0 chance to avoid or even predict that action.  I have personal connection to 1 such accident.   But, I also see lots of reckless behavior on the part of motorcycle riders.  It doesn't help that I live and work near Daytona which puts me witness to many shenanigans during Bike Week.

But, in the end, my little rants won't change anything, and I suppose I never really expected them to.  But, I also won't pass on the opportunity to post a little snark about "look twice for bikes" in a thread about a reckless motorcycle rider.

TLDR: Don't take me seriously; I look out for everyone on the road.... lighten up, Francis.
 
2013-06-06 11:42:19 AM

GBB: kiwimoogle84: GBB: Please, go on and tell me why I still need to look twice for bikes...

Ohhh, boy. Now you've done it. That's a can of worms you don't want to open with me in the thread.

But I'll launch ahead.

Because not all motorcycle riders are assholes on the road. Because maybe they have long commutes and want to save gas. Because maybe he and his lovely newlywed wife have only one car between them and she uses it to get to HER work. Because maybe, just maybe, if you're an inconsiderate driver who is in a gigantic SUV or semi truck and you don't pay attention and cross a solid double yellow while making a left hand turn, you might just kill a very responsible rider and that guy's 23 year old widow gets a really freakin' rough phone call later that night.

Don't be a douche.

/CSS

Oh, I see.  Because of a few drivers that have killed motorcycle riders, ALL drivers need to be chastised about our driving behavior.  But when Bike Week comes to town and hordes of bikers are out doing stunts and acting like jackasses, or they cut and weave in-and-out of traffic on a regular basis that doesn't make the news, we can't have a "Ride your motorcycle responsibly" campaign, or a more simple "Don't be a douche on 2-wheels" bumper sticker.

Thanks for clearing that up.


the "ride your motorcycle responsibly" campaign is always going on.

/they just don't target bovine suburban drivers
//not that i think you are a suburban driver
///I see you in a prius
 
2013-06-06 11:45:00 AM

GBB: kiwimoogle84: GBB: Please, go on and tell me why I still need to look twice for bikes...

Ohhh, boy. Now you've done it. That's a can of worms you don't want to open with me in the thread.

But I'll launch ahead.

Because not all motorcycle riders are assholes on the road. Because maybe they have long commutes and want to save gas. Because maybe he and his lovely newlywed wife have only one car between them and she uses it to get to HER work. Because maybe, just maybe, if you're an inconsiderate driver who is in a gigantic SUV or semi truck and you don't pay attention and cross a solid double yellow while making a left hand turn, you might just kill a very responsible rider and that guy's 23 year old widow gets a really freakin' rough phone call later that night.

Don't be a douche.

/CSS

Oh, I see.  Because of a few drivers that have killed motorcycle riders, ALL drivers need to be chastised about our driving behavior.  But when Bike Week comes to town and hordes of bikers are out doing stunts and acting like jackasses, or they cut and weave in-and-out of traffic on a regular basis that doesn't make the news, we can't have a "Ride your motorcycle responsibly" campaign, or a more simple "Don't be a douche on 2-wheels" bumper sticker.

Thanks for clearing that up.


The irony of your response is killing me right now.

/or - Oh, I see. Because of a few motorcycle riders that have done stupid things (injuring no one but themselves in the process), ALL riders need to be chastised about our riding behavior. But every farking day when idiots don't pay attention to where they're driving their 3000+ lbs cage, or they cut and change lanes of traffic on a regular basis without looking that doesn't make the news, we shouldn't have a "Save lives, look twice" campaign, or a more simple "Pay attention to your driving, asshat" bumper sticker.

Thanks for clearing that up.
 
2013-06-06 11:46:53 AM

GBB: here to help: GBB: Oh, I see. Because of a few drivers that have killed motorcycle riders, ALL drivers need to be chastised about our driving behavior. But when Bike Week comes to town and hordes of bikers are out doing stunts and acting like jackasses, or they cut and weave in-and-out of traffic on a regular basis that doesn't make the news, we can't have a "Ride your motorcycle responsibly" campaign, or a more simple "Don't be a douche on 2-wheels" bumper sticker.

Thanks for clearing that up.

1) Following the rules of the road and double checking your blind spots is something you should do anyway to avoid MANY things like other cars, pedestrians, debris, etc. Not just motorcycles. Keep your damned eyes open.

2) If you are following the rules of the road and being observant of others on said road you are not the focus of the motorcyclists ire. However there are many motorists who are not just negligent but actively aggressive towards cyclists and bikers. Your statements lead me to believe you are one of those types.

3) Responsible motorcyclists don't like the unsafe asshats either. Also if they are being idiots and cause a wreck then no one except the rare idiot is going to judge you and the legal system will not either.

4) Who exactly is preventing you from having a campaign to raise awareness about dangerous motorcycling or adorning your bumper with your opinions on the matter? Free speech is still technically a right and you may use it just as they can.

5) I may be wrong but I have a feeling Miss Moogle was speaking from personal experience. You may want to take that into account while speaking about a potentially sensitive subject to someone who mostly seems like a nice person.

6) I think you're trolling but when it comes to discussions about cyclists/bikers vs. motorists Poe and his laws tend to come into play.

Partly trolling, yes.  But mostly to point out the hypocrisy of the "look twice for bikes" campaign.  It annoys me to no end.

I'd like to thin ...


We don't blame trains for hitting cars, no, because trains can't stop on a dime. However, since motorcycles don't come with seatbelts, if I barely grazed a rider in my tiny Nissan, I'd still send him flying. And do you blame pedestrians as well for their own wrongful deaths?

I do get the point you were trying to make, but you asked us to remind you why, and that's basically what I did. And trust me, I really do hate all the irresponsible jack holes who pull stupid stunts and live to tell about it. They're the ones who should be red asphalt, not good responsible people. It's just hard to not take statements like your initial one personally, since it's echoed by so many soccer moms in Expeditions who are eating, talking on the phone, and doing their makeup while driving. And I admit I'm a bit testier than normal considering the 5th anniversary of said death is on Tuesday.

I'm glad you're a responsible driver. Write your local congressman for a "Ride Safely and Stay Alive" platform.
 
2013-06-06 11:47:33 AM

GBB: Please, go on and tell me why I still need to
[pnwriders.com image 384x115]


In CA, some fool will be splitting lanes at 80mph. You don't want to ding your door.
 
2013-06-06 11:50:02 AM

GBB: I also think that from a generic prospective that smaller entities have a greater need to look out for larger ones,


Believe me, we do. Those who don't and get hit because of it only have themselves to blame.

I also take a bit of offense toward the connotation that it's solely the automobile driver's responsibility to keep an eye on motorcycles

Anyone who thinks they can throw caution to the wind while on a roadway is an utter moron. Hell, even when walking on the sidewalk people should be paying attention to their surroundings. Some people think that there is some impenetrable force field that protects them if they are on the sidewalk or crossing with a green light. Those people are just begging for a Darwin award.

lighten up, Francis.

*fart*
 
2013-06-06 12:02:05 PM

GBB


I also think that from a generic prospective that smaller entities have a greater need to look out for larger ones, opposed from vise-versa. Trains are generally not blamed for accidents with cars or pedestrians.


The problem with that argument is, barring a derailment, the train is on a fixed path. Not only can it not make any erratic moves, it also cannot take any evasive action - including abrupt braking. This is why trains are not blamed for collisions: the onus for avoiding the accident is completely on the car drivers and pedestrians to stay the hell out of the way of the non-stoppable, non-turnable vehicle.
 
GBB
2013-06-06 12:04:43 PM
rlv.zcache.com
OK, found my campaign!
 
2013-06-06 12:44:45 PM

kiwimoogle84: here to help: And I seem to have been correct.

That sucks, Kiwi. Condolences. I lost an uncle due to a motorcycle accident. He was apparently being a dumbass though.

Motorcycle threads are like spider threads for me. I know good things don't await me when I come into them, but I always do anyway. *shrug* Thanks, and I'm just grateful the current mister kiwi loved me enough to sell his bike when we got serious. I'd never sleep again had he not.


You realize under California law, you're at fault if you get doored while filtering, right?
 
2013-06-06 12:56:17 PM

This text is now purple: kiwimoogle84: here to help: And I seem to have been correct.

That sucks, Kiwi. Condolences. I lost an uncle due to a motorcycle accident. He was apparently being a dumbass though.

Motorcycle threads are like spider threads for me. I know good things don't await me when I come into them, but I always do anyway. *shrug* Thanks, and I'm just grateful the current mister kiwi loved me enough to sell his bike when we got serious. I'd never sleep again had he not.

You realize under California law, you're at fault if you get doored while filtering, right?


I wonder about this.  I came to CA having never seen anyone "filter" a bike through traffic.  I immediately assumed it was illegal, and found out otherwise from my passenger.  So I looked it up.  Turns out, it's NOT actually legal under MOST traffic conditions.  The limitation in the law is that traffic must be at LESS than 25mph (I think that was it).  So in reality, those guys filtering (as you say, we call it lane splitting), are almost always in violation of the law as written.  Because traffic is rarely actually only doing 25.

My favorite was the guy who lane split my already nervous friend and brushed his mirror on the way by.  I guess now is the time to mention that we were moving a fully restored 68 thunderbird.  So this kid on a crotch rocket brushes my friends car, and then finds himself on the receiving end of a brush as the full weight of a 68 thunderbird hits his rear tire in an apparent lane change accident.  The bike went down like a house of cards and would you believe not one witness was on the bike riders' side?  Even in CA, no one likes you guys.  (you guys, being asshole bike riders)

/st1100
//my bike is bigger than your car
///not really
 
2013-06-06 01:06:57 PM
GBB:  It doesn't help that I live and work near Daytona

Oh...OK. That explains a lot.

I ride, and I'd probably hate riders if I lived there. Your rage is excused! Carry on!
 
2013-06-06 01:32:36 PM

This text is now purple: You realize under California law, you're at fault if you get doored while filtering, right


I thought CA was the only place where you were allowed to filter at all.  Was I misinformed?
 
2013-06-06 02:12:46 PM

This text is now purple: kiwimoogle84: here to help: And I seem to have been correct.

Motorcycle threads are like spider threads for me. I know good things don't await me when I come into them, but I always do anyway. *shrug* Thanks, and I'm just grateful the current mister kiwi loved me enough to sell his bike when we got serious. I'd never sleep again had he not.

You realize under California law, you're at fault if you get doored while filtering, right?


Why are you calling me out on this? Are you trying to justify maliciously harming a rider? I don't know if you've noticed, but that will NOT endear you to me. Besides, it's legal to split lanes when traffic is under 25 or stopped, as mentioned above. Hence anyone who opens a door to purposefully maim a rider if they're doing it LEGALLY is at fault. And how do you know California law but are obviously not from California? It's called splitting lanes here.
 
2013-06-06 02:18:34 PM
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You realize under California law, you're at fault if you get doored while filtering, right?

I was wrong. It's under 10, not 25. But just because you're being an asshole and profess to know CA law even though you live in PA, I've got some news for you, straight from CHP. So the next time you open your door to hurt someone, your ass is on the line.

http://rideapart.com/2013/01/the-chps-official-line-on-lane-splittin g/

Messages for Other Vehicle Drivers
1) Lane splitting by motorcycles is not illegal in California when done in a safe and prudent manner.

2) Motorists should not take it upon themselves to discourage motorcyclists from lane splitting.

3) Intentionally blocking or impeding a motorcyclist in a way that could cause harm to the rider is illegal (CVC 22400).

4) Opening a vehicle door to impede a motorcycle is illegal (CVC 22517).
 
2013-06-06 03:14:56 PM

kiwimoogle84: Here to help-

"3) Responsible motorcyclists don't like the unsafe asshats either. Also if they are being idiots and cause a wreck then no one except the rare idiot is going to judge you and the legal system will not either."

I can't THIS enough. The legal system is already biased against motorcycle riders, you don't have to make worse by cutting them off or opening your door when they cut through at a red light. That's happened to me before.


Why is it up do us to protect you when you are riding like an asshole? Take a bit of responsibility for once.

I don't have to worry about getting doored when I ride, because I'm not stupid enough to split lanes. I don't care if it is legal where you live either. Doing it still makes you an asshole.
 
2013-06-06 03:17:50 PM

fireclown: This text is now purple: You realize under California law, you're at fault if you get doored while filtering, right

I thought CA was the only place where you were allowed to filter at all.  Was I misinformed?


It's only legal, even in California, to filter "when safe." If an accident occurs, it clearly wasn't safe. (Not just a pithy comment -- this is basically how the law enforcement and insurance interpret the rule)
 
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