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(CBS Baltimore)   That awkward moment right after pulling the trigger of the BB gun to shoot your friend in the ass, and you realize it's not a BB gun   (baltimore.cbslocal.com) divider line 53
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2013-06-05 08:31:39 PM  
RUN, FORREST, RUN!!
 
2013-06-05 09:48:12 PM  
I wonder if alcohol was involved.
 
2013-06-05 10:13:16 PM  

Bucky Katt: I wonder if alcohol was involved.


I'm gonna go with YES to that.
 
2013-06-06 12:15:13 AM  
This is why you secure your firearms. Another argument for gun liability insurance.
 
2013-06-06 12:19:45 AM  
thumbs.anyclip.com

can relate.
 
2013-06-06 12:55:52 AM  

fusillade762: This is why you secure your firearms. Another argument for gun liability insurance.


Now is not the time...
 
2013-06-06 01:38:35 AM  
I guess it's a good thing he didn't shoot him in the nads instead...
 
2013-06-06 01:45:35 AM  

fusillade762: This is why you secure your firearms. Another argument for gun liability insurance.


Against more like.
 
2013-06-06 02:31:21 AM  

doglover: fusillade762: This is why you secure your firearms. Another argument for gun liability insurance.

Against more like.


So you don't think the idiot who left his gun lying around so some random visitor could shoot someone should face some kind of consequence?
 
2013-06-06 02:38:45 AM  

fusillade762: doglover: fusillade762: This is why you secure your firearms. Another argument for gun liability insurance.

Against more like.

So you don't think the idiot who left his gun lying around so some random visitor could shoot someone should face some kind of consequence?


Random visitors should know better. Blame the blameworthy.
 
2013-06-06 02:46:24 AM  

doglover: fusillade762: doglover: fusillade762: This is why you secure your firearms. Another argument for gun liability insurance.

Against more like.

So you don't think the idiot who left his gun lying around so some random visitor could shoot someone should face some kind of consequence?

Random visitors should know better. Blame the blameworthy.


And when someone who DOESN'T know better does it? Say, a four-year-old?
 
2013-06-06 03:09:32 AM  
4 year olds aren't liable, their parents are.

If you can't take care of them until you teach your kid to be safe on their own, that's your fault. Once they reach a certain age, it's their fault alone. Till then, blame the parents.

No need to give rich idiots an out, though. The fact someone's out there who will shoot someone with a weapon before they know if it's real or not is an ironclad argument against outsourcing liability. We need to start holding people to the literal pound of flesh, not its financial equivalent. No on insurance.
 
2013-06-06 03:10:31 AM  
I guess you'd have to be either really really drunk or really really stupid (or really really both) to mistake a .40 handgun for a BB gun. I mean, I'm having a hard time grasping this. Even if he really thought it was a BB gun and he wanted to shoot his friend in the ass, wouldn't he need to either put BBs in or at least check to see if there were any?

/seems more like a lame cover-story for yet another "I didn't think it was loaded" situation :-/
 
2013-06-06 03:29:36 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: Bucky Katt: I wonder if alcohol was involved.

I'm gonna go with YES to that.


Hey now, Alcohol is perfectly safe and legal.  Don't you go disparaging it.
 
2013-06-06 03:33:54 AM  

mamoru: I guess you'd have to be either really really drunk or really really stupid (or really really both) to mistake a .40 handgun for a BB gun. I mean, I'm having a hard time grasping this. Even if he really thought it was a BB gun and he wanted to shoot his friend in the ass, wouldn't he need to either put BBs in or at least check to see if there were any?

/seems more like a lame cover-story for yet another "I didn't think it was loaded" situation :-/


Airsofts can be VERY realistic. I have a revolver that's a copy of a Colt revolver down to brass shells that hold one BB each.

Also those german BB guns can easily put a hole in you equal to a .22, so I don't see why you'd shoot your buddy ANYWAY, unless you were both playing a survival game like Paintball or Airsoft and were currently in the middle of a game.
 
2013-06-06 04:36:44 AM  
I'm thinking this was one of those people who were never taught gun safety.  You never even point a pellet or bb gun at anyone.
 
2013-06-06 04:37:58 AM  

doglover: mamoru: I guess you'd have to be either really really drunk or really really stupid (or really really both) to mistake a .40 handgun for a BB gun. I mean, I'm having a hard time grasping this. Even if he really thought it was a BB gun and he wanted to shoot his friend in the ass, wouldn't he need to either put BBs in or at least check to see if there were any?

/seems more like a lame cover-story for yet another "I didn't think it was loaded" situation :-/

Airsofts can be VERY realistic. I have a revolver that's a copy of a Colt revolver down to brass shells that hold one BB each.

Also those german BB guns can easily put a hole in you equal to a .22, so I don't see why you'd shoot your buddy ANYWAY, unless you were both playing a survival game like Paintball or Airsoft and were currently in the middle of a game.


I'm betting the weight is much less though, isn't it?
 
2013-06-06 04:41:45 AM  

Bigdogdaddy: I'm betting the weight is much less though, isn't it?


Made of steel. It's pretty much a carbon copy. Maybe a little less weight or a little more weight, but not so's you'd notice without holding both at once.
 
2013-06-06 05:02:18 AM  
Real guns typically don't sound like a maraca when you pick it up.
 
2013-06-06 05:05:09 AM  

mamoru: I guess you'd have to be either really really drunk or really really stupid (or really really both) to mistake a .40 handgun for a BB gun. I mean, I'm having a hard time grasping this. Even if he really thought it was a BB gun and he wanted to shoot his friend in the ass, wouldn't he need to either put BBs in or at least check to see if there were any?

/seems more like a lame cover-story for yet another "I didn't think it was loaded" situation :-/


I think it's more likely the guy is just stupid and thought his friend would get some "wacky" Forrest Gump style wound.
 
2013-06-06 05:10:36 AM  

fusillade762: doglover: fusillade762: This is why you secure your firearms. Another argument for gun liability insurance.

Against more like.

So you don't think the idiot who left his gun lying around so some random visitor could shoot someone should face some kind of consequence?


It was stolen from the owner.
 
2013-06-06 05:11:42 AM  
Something smells fishy.
 
2013-06-06 05:15:51 AM  
i2.ytimg.com

AWWW!!! WEAK!!!
You're NOT supposed to do that!
 
2013-06-06 05:19:13 AM  

doglover: Bigdogdaddy: I'm betting the weight is much less though, isn't it?

Made of steel. It's pretty much a carbon copy. Maybe a little less weight or a little more weight, but not so's you'd notice without holding both at once.


Even cheap airsoft guns have lead weights inside for some degree of heft. I will guess that either the owner kept his gun loaded or this guy is bullshiatting.
 
2013-06-06 05:19:15 AM  

mamoru: I guess you'd have to be either really really drunk or really really stupid (or really really both) to mistake a .40 handgun for a BB gun. I mean, I'm having a hard time grasping this. Even if he really thought it was a BB gun and he wanted to shoot his friend in the ass, wouldn't he need to either put BBs in or at least check to see if there were any?

/seems more like a lame cover-story for yet another "I didn't think it was loaded" situation :-/


There are Airsoft guns (plastic pellets) that are weighted to the same as the model they're modeled from.

The "prankster" did not own the gun.  It's possible there were Airsoft guns AND real firearms around, but the article doesn't say that.
 
2013-06-06 05:21:59 AM  
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
Knows their pain.
 
2013-06-06 05:32:57 AM  

UsikFark: doglover: Bigdogdaddy: I'm betting the weight is much less though, isn't it?

Made of steel. It's pretty much a carbon copy. Maybe a little less weight or a little more weight, but not so's you'd notice without holding both at once.

Even cheap airsoft guns have lead weights inside for some degree of heft. I will guess that either the owner kept his gun loaded or this guy is bullshiatting.




I call bullshiat.
 
2013-06-06 05:36:21 AM  
Damn, how drunk do you have to be not to be able to tell a BB gun from a farking forty-cal? Was the giant farking hole in the end of the gun where the bullet comes out not obvious enough? .40 is not a small round.

Furthermore, yet another retard leaves a loaded handgun just lying around with a round in the chamber.

Not that shooting people with BB guns is in any way safe or a good idea (airsoft notwithstanding). Idiots all around...
 
2013-06-06 05:39:26 AM  

doglover: 4 year olds aren't liable, their parents are.

If you can't take care of them until you teach your kid to be safe on their own, that's your fault. Once they reach a certain age, it's their fault alone. Till then, blame the parents.

No need to give rich idiots an out, though. The fact someone's out there who will shoot someone with a weapon before they know if it's real or not is an ironclad argument against outsourcing liability. We need to start holding people to the literal pound of flesh, not its financial equivalent. No on insurance.


Newsletter?
 
2013-06-06 06:02:23 AM  
Twenty-something years ago, my brother and his best friend were messing around with BB guns, hiding out and stalking each other. My brother went outside and around the back of the house, then knocked on the front door. His friend answered the door, my brother yelled, "Think fast!", and shot him in the middle of his forehead, leaving a bump. To this day, the friend still has the bump, which looks remarkably like a certain part of the female anatomy. He has been affectionately known as *rhymes with slit* Head ever since.

/no point
//yay insomnia
 
2013-06-06 06:05:35 AM  

doglover: 4 year olds aren't liable, their parents are.

If you can't take care of them until you teach your kid to be safe on their own, that's your fault. Once they reach a certain age, it's their fault alone. Till then, blame the parents.

No need to give rich idiots an out, though. The fact someone's out there who will shoot someone with a weapon before they know if it's real or not is an ironclad argument against outsourcing liability. We need to start holding people to the literal pound of flesh, not its financial equivalent. No on insurance.


And if a burglar had broken in and stolen the gun and shot up your family?

There is blame on both sides here, it is not mutually exclusive. You should be a responsible enough gun owner to keep your weapons where they do not easily fall into other people's hands. You should be a responsible enough person that you do not shoot anything (bb gun or real gun) into someone else's ass while they are sleeping.

Imho each action is negligent at the very least, but I am not saying both are equally to blame.
 
2013-06-06 06:09:51 AM  

Pert: doglover: 4 year olds aren't liable, their parents are.

If you can't take care of them until you teach your kid to be safe on their own, that's your fault. Once they reach a certain age, it's their fault alone. Till then, blame the parents.

No need to give rich idiots an out, though. The fact someone's out there who will shoot someone with a weapon before they know if it's real or not is an ironclad argument against outsourcing liability. We need to start holding people to the literal pound of flesh, not its financial equivalent. No on insurance.

And if a burglar had broken in and stolen the gun and shot up your family?

There is blame on both sides here, it is not mutually exclusive. You should be a responsible enough gun owner to keep your weapons where they do not easily fall into other people's hands. You should be a responsible enough person that you do not shoot anything (bb gun or real gun) into someone else's ass while they are sleeping.

Imho each action is negligent at the very least, but I am not saying both are equally to blame.


Well, that's the farking problem now, isn't it?  People aren't responsible and guns end up in the wrong hands.
 
2013-06-06 06:11:03 AM  

Medic Zero: doglover: 4 year olds aren't liable, their parents are.

If you can't take care of them until you teach your kid to be safe on their own, that's your fault. Once they reach a certain age, it's their fault alone. Till then, blame the parents.

No need to give rich idiots an out, though. The fact someone's out there who will shoot someone with a weapon before they know if it's real or not is an ironclad argument against outsourcing liability. We need to start holding people to the literal pound of flesh, not its financial equivalent. No on insurance.

Newsletter?


Humans are a part of nature. Legislating like we can somehow leave that process is silly. It's like trying to get your state congress to repeal the law of gravity. It's never gonna work for obvious reasons. "Nature" is the result of cause and effect on biological systems, not a tangible thing. The only way to leave nature is not exist. Not even killing yourself lets you escape because even if your body converted to pure energy, that would still have an effect on something.

So, enlightened societies will legislate in harmony with nature's laws.
 
2013-06-06 06:22:20 AM  

Pert: And if a burglar had broken in and stolen the gun and shot up your family?


Can you buy a time machine to unshoot them with that insurance money?

If yes, please give me your best coverage. Shut up and take my money.

If no, then insurance is still basically a racket only we can't go all RICO on insurance companies yet because they have better lobbyists than the mob.


Just because there should be consequences to actions doesn't mean insurance is a good idea. It's like in World War Two. We had concentration camps for Americans of Japanese descent. Looking back on it, that was a farking stupid idea and did nothing. At the time, it was the best idea our government could cook up. That's insurance in a nutshell. It's a bad thing history will not be kind to that has been inflicted upon us anyway because it gets the job done and the the people who mandate it for us don't have to have it themselves. If we toss senators' families in the concentration camps, concentration camps don't get built. If we didn't pay for lawmaker's healthcare and travel, the very first raping by a claims adjustor or dropped coverage would see every insurance salesman in jail.

Legal repercussions are fine, but insurance is never the answer.
 
Xai
2013-06-06 06:38:42 AM  
but guns make you safer!
 
2013-06-06 07:04:47 AM  

doglover: Medic Zero: doglover: 4 year olds aren't liable, their parents are.

If you can't take care of them until you teach your kid to be safe on their own, that's your fault. Once they reach a certain age, it's their fault alone. Till then, blame the parents.

No need to give rich idiots an out, though. The fact someone's out there who will shoot someone with a weapon before they know if it's real or not is an ironclad argument against outsourcing liability. We need to start holding people to the literal pound of flesh, not its financial equivalent. No on insurance.

Newsletter?

Humans are a part of nature. Legislating like we can somehow leave that process is silly. It's like trying to get your state congress to repeal the law of gravity. It's never gonna work for obvious reasons. "Nature" is the result of cause and effect on biological systems, not a tangible thing. The only way to leave nature is not exist. Not even killing yourself lets you escape because even if your body converted to pure energy, that would still have an effect on something.

So, enlightened societies will legislate in harmony with nature's laws.


Why does anyone bother with clothes?  May as well run around like banchees and rape and murder everyone.
 
2013-06-06 07:18:37 AM  

Smock Pot: Twenty-something years ago, my brother and his best friend were messing around with BB guns, hiding out and stalking each other. My brother went outside and around the back of the house, then knocked on the front door. His friend answered the door, my brother yelled, "Think fast!", and shot him in the middle of his forehead, leaving a bump. To this day, the friend still has the bump, which looks remarkably like a certain part of the female anatomy. He has been affectionately known as *rhymes with slit* Head ever since.

/no point
//yay insomnia


That's hilarious. I had bb gun fights with my friends when we were younger, too, but ours mostly consisted of shooting each other in the ankles or ass when the victim wasn't looking.
 
2013-06-06 07:23:04 AM  

MNguy: Why does anyone bother with clothes?


I dunno. Why don't you go naked in Nome this winter and tell me how that works out?
 
2013-06-06 07:31:25 AM  

doglover: Medic Zero: doglover: 4 year olds aren't liable, their parents are.

If you can't take care of them until you teach your kid to be safe on their own, that's your fault. Once they reach a certain age, it's their fault alone. Till then, blame the parents.

No need to give rich idiots an out, though. The fact someone's out there who will shoot someone with a weapon before they know if it's real or not is an ironclad argument against outsourcing liability. We need to start holding people to the literal pound of flesh, not its financial equivalent. No on insurance.

Newsletter?

Humans are a part of nature. Legislating like we can somehow leave that process is silly. It's like trying to get your state congress to repeal the law of gravity. It's never gonna work for obvious reasons. "Nature" is the result of cause and effect on biological systems, not a tangible thing. The only way to leave nature is not exist. Not even killing yourself lets you escape because even if your body converted to pure energy, that would still have an effect on something.

So, enlightened societies will legislate in harmony with nature's laws.


Hence my proposed "feed idiots to lions" legislation.  Videotape it.  Preferably with Morgan Freeman narrating.  Show tapes to schoolkids.  Schoolkids learn not to be idiots.  Cycle of life.
 
2013-06-06 08:03:27 AM  
I had an air soft gun back in the day that I used as a film prop. It was a dead ringer for a 45 Beretta and according to my cousin, it had the same heft. I could see someone making the mistake slightly toasted.
 
2013-06-06 08:14:15 AM  

doglover: 4 year olds aren't liable, their parents are.

If you can't take care of them until you teach your kid to be safe on their own, that's your fault. Once they reach a certain age, it's their fault alone. Till then, blame the parents.

No need to give rich idiots an out, though. The fact someone's out there who will shoot someone with a weapon before they know if it's real or not is an ironclad argument against outsourcing liability. We need to start holding people to the literal pound of flesh, not its financial equivalent. No on insurance.


Well said and I agree. If anything insurance would encourage negligence. The last thing we need to add to the world of guns is the "fark it Im insured" attitude that is currently owned by many motorists. Id say the consequence of jail if something happens with one of your guns is a lot worse than your premiums going up a few dollars a month.
 
2013-06-06 08:25:46 AM  
dailypicksandflicks.com
 
2013-06-06 08:28:39 AM  

doglover: fusillade762: doglover: fusillade762: This is why you secure your firearms. Another argument for gun liability insurance.

Against more like.

So you don't think the idiot who left his gun lying around so some random visitor could shoot someone should face some kind of consequence?

Random visitors should know better. Blame the blameworthy.


The insurance company would be free to go after the shooter. But if he's homeless and broke, at least the harmed individual gets some form of recompense.
 
2013-06-06 08:29:21 AM  

Sultan Of Herf:

Well said and I agree. If anything insurance would encourage negligence. The last thing we need to add to the world of guns is the "fark it Im insured" attitude that is currently owned by many motorists. Id say the consequence of jail if something happens with one of your guns is a lot worse than your premiums going up a few dollars a month.

Let's assume that this claim gets paid out by the homeowners insurance, and the homeowners insurance policy is cancelled because the homeowner has been proven to be careless with firearms.  Now, unless you own the house outright you're in trouble with your mortgage company.  could be more thna few dollars in premiums a month to fix this.

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Real guns typically don't sound like a maraca when you pick it up.


Airsoft pistols don't either.  Now, it might have a bright orange tip on the muzzle but at 4:00AM this might not be obvious.
 
2013-06-06 08:36:24 AM  
Responsible gun owner.
 
2013-06-06 08:44:03 AM  

Teaser: [dailypicksandflicks.com image 600x450]


just gonna put my beer down and take a pic-be right with you . . .
THAT was the funny in there.

I was thinking this was kids.  Then I read more comments. THEN I read the article.  Mom was right.  "Nuthin' good gonna happen after the bars close son"
 
2013-06-06 09:34:45 AM  

Ninja Otter: the harmed individual gets some form of recompense.


And where do they get that money? From the responsible people they rob by gettin' cronies in government to mandate all of the public pay into their racket regardless.

Insurance companies are the mob. It's a bad system and I'm against it. Not only that, but in your scenario WHY WOULD YOU LET A HOBO NEAR YOUR GUNS AND IN YOUR HOME!?
 
2013-06-06 09:51:14 AM  
The handgun is legally owned by the homeowner's son, who was not determined to be involved in the shooting.

Of course he was involved.  He's the one who failed to secure his weapon.
 
2013-06-06 11:13:06 AM  

Pert: doglover: 4 year olds aren't liable, their parents are.

If you can't take care of them until you teach your kid to be safe on their own, that's your fault. Once they reach a certain age, it's their fault alone. Till then, blame the parents.

No need to give rich idiots an out, though. The fact someone's out there who will shoot someone with a weapon before they know if it's real or not is an ironclad argument against outsourcing liability. We need to start holding people to the literal pound of flesh, not its financial equivalent. No on insurance.

And if a burglar had broken in and stolen the gun and shot up your family?

There is blame on both sides here, it is not mutually exclusive. You should be a responsible enough gun owner to keep your weapons where they do not easily fall into other people's hands. You should be a responsible enough person that you do not shoot anything (bb gun or real gun) into someone else's ass while they are sleeping.

Imho each action is negligent at the very least, but I am not saying both are equally to blame.


So a burglar breaks in to a person's house, finds a hand gun not locked away, and suddenly the burlgar is not fully responsible for shooting the family?  Really?  I bet you think a burglar should be able to sue if they hurt themselves while robbing a house, too.
 
2013-06-06 12:00:14 PM  
Trigger don't have no fingers

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