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(Esquire)   South Carolina poised to pass a bill which would make it illegal to enforce federal law in the state, and empower the state attorney general to indict those who do. This is not a repeat from 1861   (esquire.com) divider line 190
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2013-06-05 10:49:19 AM
This is, what, the 4th or 5th attempt at nullification in Obama's term?
 
2013-06-05 10:51:26 AM
So basically, all aspects of the PATRIOT ACT, the DEA, Federal Marriage Laws, Medicare are unenforcabl?
 
2013-06-05 10:52:45 AM
Secede you freaking cowards
 
2013-06-05 11:13:04 AM
Pass a Federal Law (if there isn't one already) that says that Federal Law is a package deal - you nullify one Federal law, you nullify them all. The Army/Navy locks off your borders, you get Federal Funds totalling $0 for the year (including clawback of any and all funds paid out YTD), and the people lose their US citizenship.

Let's see if they could last a week.
 
2013-06-05 11:23:36 AM
Well, that's not at all stupid and pointless.
 
2013-06-05 12:49:38 PM
No FBI, no air traffic controllers, no FDA or Dept. of Ag (FSIS), no NCAA football or basketball. The list goes on and on.
 
2013-06-05 01:08:09 PM

Dr Dreidel: Pass a Federal Law (if there isn't one already) that says that Federal Law is a package deal - you nullify one Federal law, you nullify them all. The Army/Navy locks off your borders, you get Federal Funds totalling $0 for the year (including clawback of any and all funds paid out YTD), and the people lose their US citizenship.

Let's see if they could last a week.


But there would be hell to pay when them SSI checks didn't show up on time!

I swear, the Derp just gets thicker and thicker from certain states, and this is pretty much the pinnacle. I hope they pass this law, and I hope the Feds respond exactly as you suggest they should. If they don't wish to be a part of the United States, then they don't get any of the benefits of being part of the US.
 
2013-06-05 01:08:39 PM
Brick up the highways.
 
2013-06-05 01:16:52 PM
They don't even enforce their state laws.  Or Sanford would have been charged for infidelity - a law still on the SC books.
 
2013-06-05 01:17:34 PM
Rarely is the fail tag more appropriate.
 
2013-06-05 01:23:29 PM
Oh for fark's sake. This is tiring.
 
2013-06-05 01:25:59 PM
I'm just glad there is another Southern state that is doing something stupid enough to distract everyone from the two morans that Kentucky sent to the Senate.
 
2013-06-05 01:27:37 PM
Per the Tax Foundation South Carolina gets $1.38 in federal spending for every dollar in federal taxes it pays.

I'm assuming this legislation arranges to have that money returned to Washington D.C. for reallocation to states not more worthless than a bucket of smashed assholes?
 
2013-06-05 01:31:01 PM

give me doughnuts: I'm just glad there is another Southern state that is doing something stupid enough to distract everyone from the two morans that Kentucky sent to the Senate.


Hey, that's unfair.  McConnel is sleazy as hell and a true scumbag, but he's not a moron like RAND PAUL.

/from Kentucky
//didn't vote for either of those clowns
 
2013-06-05 01:32:02 PM
www.loc.gov
Secede already and get it over with, you farkers...

Diogenes: They don't even enforce their state laws.  Or Sanford would have been charged for infidelity - a law still on the SC books.


Is there a statue of limitations on that? Is it too late for Jenny Sanford to have him arrested?

/because that would be hilarious
 
2013-06-05 01:37:14 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Per the Tax Foundation South Carolina gets $1.38 in federal spending for every dollar in federal taxes it pays.

I'm assuming this legislation arranges to have that money returned to Washington D.C. for reallocation to states not more worthless than a bucket of smashed assholes?


SC has a lot of large military bases.  I'm sure that accounts for a rather large chunk of it.
 
2013-06-05 01:56:57 PM

Nabb1: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Per the Tax Foundation South Carolina gets $1.38 in federal spending for every dollar in federal taxes it pays.

I'm assuming this legislation arranges to have that money returned to Washington D.C. for reallocation to states not more worthless than a bucket of smashed assholes?

SC has a lot of large military bases.  I'm sure that accounts for a rather large chunk of it.


close em. two birds, one stone
 
2013-06-05 02:12:01 PM

Nabb1: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Per the Tax Foundation South Carolina gets $1.38 in federal spending for every dollar in federal taxes it pays.

I'm assuming this legislation arranges to have that money returned to Washington D.C. for reallocation to states not more worthless than a bucket of smashed assholes?

SC has a lot of large military bases.  I'm sure that accounts for a rather large chunk of it.


And since we spend anywhere from 2 to 3 times as much $ on defense each year than we need to...
 
2013-06-05 02:13:10 PM

TrollingForColumbine: Nabb1: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Per the Tax Foundation South Carolina gets $1.38 in federal spending for every dollar in federal taxes it pays.

I'm assuming this legislation arranges to have that money returned to Washington D.C. for reallocation to states not more worthless than a bucket of smashed assholes?

SC has a lot of large military bases.  I'm sure that accounts for a rather large chunk of it.

close em. two birds, one stone


Will if that law passes, they'll have no choice.  It's kind of difficult to operate a military base if you can't enforce any of the laws governing said military installation.
 
2013-06-05 02:23:39 PM
Does the state have any laws on the books that specifically outlaw drugs?
Does the state have any laws on the books that define and outlaw counterfeiting?
Does the state have any laws on the books that regulate drug safety? Food safety?
 
2013-06-05 02:24:09 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com
We're not going to play by their rules any more.

Don't legislate angry! Don't legislate angry!
 
2013-06-05 02:26:58 PM
Enjoy those crumbling highways and bridges.
 
2013-06-05 02:28:07 PM
I personally volunteer to lead a Sherman's March through South Carolina.
 
2013-06-05 02:28:53 PM
1.  Clone Andrew Jackson and William T. Sherman
2.  Introduce them to drones
3.  Profit!
 
2013-06-05 02:28:56 PM

Aarontology: So basically, all aspects of the PATRIOT ACT, the DEA, Federal Marriage Laws, Medicare are unenforcabl?


I think with the downfall of DOMA there are no marriage laws on the federal level outside of fairly small regulatory issues.
 
2013-06-05 02:29:55 PM
"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding."
 
2013-06-05 02:31:19 PM
Maybe they can do that Exodus project thingie they were planning awhile back, to secede from the US and establish the Christian Theocracy they've always wanted.

/proceed-sodomite.jpg
 
2013-06-05 02:31:24 PM

Snapper Carr: "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding."


Quit quoting the Communist Manifesto, Karl.
 
2013-06-05 02:31:41 PM
How the fark did someone as awesome as Colbert manage to emerge from a shiathole?
 
2013-06-05 02:33:54 PM
I'm SHOCKED!

www.lazlow.com
 
2013-06-05 02:34:02 PM
So, commit any big crime in SC, say rob a bank, or smuggle drugs into a SC port. When the local cops call the FBI, have the locals arrested.
 
2013-06-05 02:34:30 PM
A proposed bill, on special order in the state Senate, would allow the state attorney general to take businesses, including health insurers, to court if he "has reasonable cause to believe" they are harming people by implementing the law.

Oh, but those insurance companies can deny claims all farking day and night for any damn trivial reason they want, and you've got no farking problem with it at all, do you?
 
2013-06-05 02:35:12 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Secede you freaking cowards


That's too many words:

DO IT, YOU farkERS!
 
2013-06-05 02:36:40 PM
This worked out so well for them last time...

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-06-05 02:36:42 PM

DamnYankees: This is, what, the 4th or 5th attempt at nullification in Obama's term?


Actually, I believe it's the first state law to nullify Obamacare within that states borders.
South Carolina: #1 in secession for 160 years and counting.
 
2013-06-05 02:36:45 PM

unlikely: Does the state have any laws on the books that specifically outlaw drugs?
Does the state have any laws on the books that define and outlaw counterfeiting?
Does the state have any laws on the books that regulate drug safety? Food safety?


None!  Think of all the jobs they'll create by declaring the state a Federal Anarchy Zone!  No federal regulations on anything means a huge boon for banking, dirty manufacturing or any kind of contraband.  Plus with no constitutional protections to speak of, all those pesky "equality" provisions are out the window.  Once the state religion is established things will really gain steam.
 
2013-06-05 02:36:47 PM

gimmegimme: I'm SHOCKED!

[www.lazlow.com image 800x588]


That's out of date.  2012 is more embarrassing to red states.
 
2013-06-05 02:37:23 PM
With this and Louisianan keeping their unconstitutional ID law on the books, there needs to be a process when a political party pushes an unconstitutional law, that party has to pick up the total bill (local, state and federal, not just the lawyers, but for the judges' pay all the way down to the light and water bill) for the resulting lawsuit.
 
2013-06-05 02:37:46 PM

Karac: DamnYankees: This is, what, the 4th or 5th attempt at nullification in Obama's term?

Actually, I believe it's the first state law to nullify Obamacare within that states borders.
South Carolina: #1 in secession for 160 years and counting.


Didn't Alaska or something pass a law pre-emptively nullifying fun control or something?
 
2013-06-05 02:39:18 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Secede you freaking cowards


Do eet. Do eet naow.
 
2013-06-05 02:40:22 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: This worked out so well for them last time...

[upload.wikimedia.org image 350x247]


I wouldn't mind buying up some "fire sale" property in Savannah.
 
2013-06-05 02:40:27 PM

MFAWG: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Secede you freaking cowards

That's too many words:

DO IT, YOU farkERS!


Isn't that the same number of words?
 
2013-06-05 02:40:43 PM

gimmegimme: I'm SHOCKED!

[www.lazlow.com image 800x588]


2005 was long ago and the Republicans were in charge of the Congress. Assuming the methodology was good aside.
 
2013-06-05 02:41:41 PM
I was really expecting this to be a satire article, like the one about the Texas congressional rep from yesterday... but nope.
 
2013-06-05 02:41:44 PM

Dr Dreidel: Pass a Federal Law (if there isn't one already) that says that Federal Law is a package deal - you nullify one Federal law, you nullify them all. The Army/Navy locks off your borders, you get Federal Funds totalling $0 for the year (including clawback of any and all funds paid out YTD), and the people lose their US citizenship.

Let's see if they could last a week.


What you suggest is easily circumvented: have the state declare that law to be null within its borders.
 
2013-06-05 02:42:01 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: This worked out so well for them last time...

[upload.wikimedia.org image 350x247]


So well, that folks in Georgia and North Carolina would agree about the measure's effectiveness:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-06-05 02:42:16 PM

tricycleracer: gimmegimme: I'm SHOCKED!

[www.lazlow.com image 800x588]

That's out of date.  2012 is more embarrassing to red states.


Is there an updated version of this chart somewhere?
 
2013-06-05 02:43:17 PM

timujin: I was really expecting this to be a satire article, like the one about the Texas congressional rep from yesterday... but nope.


You're confused, I think. It was yesterday's "GOP votes to defund ACORN" article which was our weekly "link about the GOP you assume is satire but actually isn't". Keep up, if you would.
 
2013-06-05 02:43:19 PM

Paris1127: Is there a statue of limitations on that?


encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2013-06-05 02:43:22 PM

Dr Dreidel: Pass a Federal Law (if there isn't one already) that says that Federal Law is a package deal - you nullify one Federal law, you nullify them all. The Army/Navy locks off your borders, you get Federal Funds totalling $0 for the year (including clawback of any and all funds paid out YTD), and the people lose their US citizenship.

Let's see if they could last a week.


Brilliant.

You can be part of the USA or "opt out". But be warned, opt out is a biatch.
 
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