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(CNN)   Chris Christie simultaneously pisses off Democrats and Republicans. He must be doing something right   (cnn.com) divider line 161
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2013-06-04 10:09:32 PM  
Now this is a fat guy me and my whole family can get behind.
 
2013-06-04 10:17:29 PM  
Normally I'd agree, but having a special election for a what? Four or five month term?  seems pretty silly.
 
2013-06-05 12:53:34 AM  
He knows that Corey Booker will bring out the black vote, so by splitting the election, he hopes the voters who come out to elect Booker will stay home when it comes time to re-elect Christie.

So yeah, he's doing something right if you're a member of ALEC.
 
2013-06-05 12:59:52 AM  
Acting in pure self-interest tends to piss off everyone who isn't you.
 
2013-06-05 01:10:24 AM  
FTFA: Christie announced that Democratic and Republican primary elections will be held on August 13 with the general election on October 16. The winner of the special election will serve out the final year of Lautenberg's term, and an election for a full six-year term will occur the following November.

Whether its in his self-interest or not, I don't know. But having elections is better than not having them. I would also suggest they all be combined in the general, but maybe he's right about Jersey law. Those procedures vary greatly from state to state. Its hard to biatch at a guy for holding a free and fair election.
 
2013-06-05 01:38:03 AM  
Spending tens of millions because he's afraid of Booker, geez.
 
2013-06-05 01:45:24 AM  

Sgt Otter: Normally I'd agree, but having a special election for a what? Four or five month term?  seems pretty silly.


The point is to avoid an appointment that would surely piss off one side or the other or provide political ammo

/this is a man running for President
 
2013-06-05 02:05:33 AM  
or nothing right
 
2013-06-05 02:10:53 AM  

Mentat: He knows that Corey Booker will bring out the black vote, so by splitting the election, he hopes the voters who come out to elect Booker will stay home when it comes time to re-elect Christie.

So yeah, he's doing something right if you're a member of ALEC.




This makes no sense. People who will vote in a special election, will be happy to vote in a regular election.

This is Christie passing the buck for political reasons instead of doing his job.
 
2013-06-05 02:49:09 AM  
He's following the law as written while using the least possible amount of executive discretion. How awful.
 
2013-06-05 03:28:11 AM  

Triumph: He's following the law as written while using the least possible amount of executive discretion. How awful.


A born leader.
 
2013-06-05 04:43:49 AM  
He's eating the Klukalash?

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-06-05 05:38:49 AM  

hardinparamedic: He's eating the Klukalash?

[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x379]


Krav kalash.
 
2013-06-05 05:40:19 AM  
I'm glad he's doing this otherwise I wouldn't be able to say "both sides are bad" several times, to several people who don't give a sh*t, today.
 
2013-06-05 05:51:57 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: This is Christie passing the buck for political reasons instead of doing his job.


And would "doing his job" entail appointing a Democrat or a Republican to serve a year and a half in the senate?

So far as I can tell, the only people who would object to letting the voters of New Jersey choose their own senator would be those who favor the party that could not get its candidate elected.  And that's hardly grounds for an objection.
 
2013-06-05 06:07:46 AM  

flondrix: Darth_Lukecash: This is Christie passing the buck for political reasons instead of doing his job.

And would "doing his job" entail appointing a Democrat or a Republican to serve a year and a half in the senate?

So far as I can tell, the only people who would object to letting the voters of New Jersey choose their own senator would be those who favor the party that could not get its candidate elected.  And that's hardly grounds for an objection.


Except Christy touted consolidating elections as a fiscally responsible thing to do, but is scheduling the special election 3 weeks before the regular election because he doesn't want Booker voters coming out in force on HIS election day.  Thereby costing his state $12 million unnecessary dollars simply for his own political purposes.
 
2013-06-05 06:08:01 AM  
Does anyone think Christie can win the general election, let alone the nomination?  I'm not making any predictions, because I never thought that a Mormon would be the GOP nominee and I was proven wrong.  I see him being labeled just as wishy washy as Romney was, with a side of mean.
 
2013-06-05 06:11:10 AM  

flondrix: letting the voters of New Jersey choose their own senator


Who will be either a Republican or a Democrat.  So what's your point?
 
2013-06-05 06:13:30 AM  
August elections tend to be pretty poorly attended.  Which tends to be good for Republicans, as only the retired old die-hard voters show up much.
 
2013-06-05 06:13:43 AM  
Democrats immediately slammed the move, asserting that Christie is wasting taxpayer money to protect his ambitions.

Shuuuuutt uppppp
 
2013-06-05 06:16:11 AM  
Saying that because something pisses off everyone then it must be a good thing is about the most stupid thing possible to say. Maybe it pisses everyone off because it's truly a shiatty deplorable thing.
 
2013-06-05 06:16:56 AM  
I think this was a brilliant move.
 
2013-06-05 06:26:11 AM  

Weaver95: I think this was a brilliant move.


It was brilliant for one person, Chris Christie. It kinda sucks for everyone else. Taking the time off to go vote is already a pain in November, but now Jerseyites have to do it in October as well and for what non-personal-ambition reason?

Seriously, other than "I don't want to be on the same ballot as a US Senate race" there isn't a good reason for having this one month in advance. He's still appointing an interim senator so it's not like he dodged that bullet.

It just screams cowardice, which isn't something I had come to expect from Christie.
 
2013-06-05 06:31:26 AM  

Weaver95: I think this was a brilliant move.


This.

He didn't treat it as an opportunity for more power.  He respects the voters' authority.  He side-stepped a messed-up system.
 
2013-06-05 06:32:09 AM  
timswar:
It just screams cowardice, which isn't something I had come to expect from Christie.

there was simply no way for him to satisfy everyone - no matter what he did, the GOP was gonna be pissed, the DNC would sue and pundits on both sides were going to rip him apart as he preps for a tough re-election race.  so he punted the ball and leaves the decision to the public.  think about it - now the GOP and DNC both have to spend their own money to run for a short term election.  that takes the heat off him, gives the voters the decision (which is what you are supposed to do in a democracy) and gets both parties out of his bidness.  no matter what the results, Christie can say 'hey man, it was the voters decision and I'm cool with what they decided'.
 
2013-06-05 06:35:46 AM  
You know who else pissed off pretty much everyone?
 
2013-06-05 06:38:47 AM  

dookdookdook: You know who else pissed off pretty much everyone?


Snooki?
 
2013-06-05 06:39:02 AM  

dookdookdook: You know who else pissed off pretty much everyone?


Stalin.
 
2013-06-05 06:39:31 AM  

Weaver95: timswar:
It just screams cowardice, which isn't something I had come to expect from Christie.

there was simply no way for him to satisfy everyone - no matter what he did, the GOP was gonna be pissed, the DNC would sue and pundits on both sides were going to rip him apart as he preps for a tough re-election race.  so he punted the ball and leaves the decision to the public.  think about it - now the GOP and DNC both have to spend their own money to run for a short term election.  that takes the heat off him, gives the voters the decision (which is what you are supposed to do in a democracy) and gets both parties out of his bidness.  no matter what the results, Christie can say 'hey man, it was the voters decision and I'm cool with what they decided'.


A politician punting to the public for strictly political issues is fantastic.

I disagree with punting on social justice issues (minorities get farked) and on complex budget issues (represent your district - you have time to understand the issues and your people).

But pure political bs like whether you're flipping a senate seat? To the people!
 
2013-06-05 06:54:05 AM  
FTFA: Christie said state law only permits the option of an October special election or an election in 2014.

Has anyone refuted this claim yet?  If this is true, are Democrats really saying it'd be better for him to unilaterally appoint someone until 2014, rather than have the expense of a special election?
 
2013-06-05 06:56:34 AM  
I guess I don't understand the outrage here. Special elections are costly, yes, but they are more democratic than a governor simply picking a senator.

I'm about to get my seventh senator in four years- these things can be changed.
 
2013-06-05 07:00:27 AM  

Semantic Warrior: FTFA: Christie said state law only permits the option of an October special election or an election in 2014.

Has anyone refuted this claim yet?  If this is true, are Democrats really saying it'd be better for him to unilaterally appoint someone until 2014, rather than have the expense of a special election?


I'm wondering about this too. If it is indeed against the state law to hold the special election at the same time as the regular election, then everybody screaming and crying that they should be held at the same time is a moron.

If it is not against state law, they should certainly be held at the same time.
 
2013-06-05 07:00:34 AM  

Sgt Otter: Normally I'd agree, but having a special election for a what? Four or five month term?  seems pretty silly.


and just a month from his re-election? that's going to cost the taxpayers a lot of money. this is purely self-serving.
 
2013-06-05 07:01:19 AM  
I don't know why Christie is showing any deference to the right as he will never survive the Republican primary process. As far as I can tell, Christie is basically hated by the extremists on the right and they are the ones who are key in picking the Republican candidates. All the pragmatists, the ones who actually had to govern and deal with the real world, got shot down in flames in 2012 by the uncompromising rightwingers in the GOP primary. It will only be worse in 2016.
 
2013-06-05 07:03:21 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: Mentat: He knows that Corey Booker will bring out the black vote, so by splitting the election, he hopes the voters who come out to elect Booker will stay home when it comes time to re-elect Christie.

So yeah, he's doing something right if you're a member of ALEC.

This makes no sense. People who will vote in a special election, will be happy to vote in a regular election.

This is Christie passing the buck for political reasons instead of doing his job.


Why would you assume that the same voters will show up twice in a month, particularly when the most popular candidate will only be in one of the elections?
 
2013-06-05 07:03:35 AM  

Sgt Otter: Normally I'd agree, but having a special election for a what? Four or five month term?  seems pretty silly.


It's a 1 year term.
 
2013-06-05 07:07:44 AM  

Deneb81: Weaver95: timswar:
It just screams cowardice, which isn't something I had come to expect from Christie.

there was simply no way for him to satisfy everyone - no matter what he did, the GOP was gonna be pissed, the DNC would sue and pundits on both sides were going to rip him apart as he preps for a tough re-election race.  so he punted the ball and leaves the decision to the public.  think about it - now the GOP and DNC both have to spend their own money to run for a short term election.  that takes the heat off him, gives the voters the decision (which is what you are supposed to do in a democracy) and gets both parties out of his bidness.  no matter what the results, Christie can say 'hey man, it was the voters decision and I'm cool with what they decided'.

A politician punting to the public for strictly political issues is fantastic.

I disagree with punting on social justice issues (minorities get farked) and on complex budget issues (represent your district - you have time to understand the issues and your people).

But pure political bs like whether you're flipping a senate seat? To the people!


Exactly.  Institutionalization of partisan factors predetermining decisions like this is tantamount to saying that it's better for the general public to waive their rights and free will to the establishment of the parties.  Any arguments that the public isn't informed enough to make decisions is only saying that information is being withheld from the public.  Saying they can't comprehend the issues is not unlike the pre-women's suffrage state of mind that only certain people should be allowed to actually exercise the right to vote.

Is it just me, or is the use of the word "right" in the U.S. misunderstood as "privilege" just like how scientific "theory" is misunderstood as "hypothesis"?
 
2013-06-05 07:08:39 AM  
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"Lt. Saavik and Kobayashi Maru."
 
2013-06-05 07:18:49 AM  

dookdookdook: You know who else pissed off pretty much everyone?


Roseanne, on the show's last season.
 
2013-06-05 07:19:22 AM  

jack21221: Semantic Warrior: FTFA: Christie said state law only permits the option of an October special election or an election in 2014.

Has anyone refuted this claim yet?  If this is true, are Democrats really saying it'd be better for him to unilaterally appoint someone until 2014, rather than have the expense of a special election?

I'm wondering about this too. If it is indeed against the state law to hold the special election at the same time as the regular election, then everybody screaming and crying that they should be held at the same time is a moron.

If it is not against state law, they should certainly be held at the same time.


  If the vacancy happens in the representation of this State in the United States Senate the election shall take place at the general election next succeeding the happening thereof, unless the vacancy shall happen within 70 days next preceding the primary election prior to the general election, in which case it shall be filled by election at the second succeeding election, unless the Governor shall deem it advisable to call a special election therefor, which he is authorized hereby to do.

So the vacancy occurred on Sunday the 3rd, and the primary election was the 5th, /quickmath, yeah that's within 70 days.
From the same source:
if a special day is designated, it shall specify the cause and purpose of such election, the name of the officer in whose office the vacancy has occurred, the day on which a special primary election shall be held, which shall be not less than 70 days nor more than 76 days following the date of such proclamation, and the day on which the special election shall be held, which shall be not less than 64 nor more than 70 days following the day of the special primary election.

Now that's just silly. NJ state law gives a 6 day window for the special primary and the special election.
 
2013-06-05 07:25:26 AM  
So he's letting the voters decide who their senator will be, and in doing so avoiding a lawsuit threatened by the opposing party.

Gee, what a monster.
 
2013-06-05 07:35:40 AM  

mongbiohazard: So he's letting the voters decide who their senator will be, and in doing so avoiding a lawsuit threatened by the opposing party.

Gee, what a monster.


The voters will decide regardless.  The question is whether New Jersey needs one election or two.
 
2013-06-05 07:37:52 AM  

Sgt Otter: Normally I'd agree, but having a special election for a what? Four or five month term?  seems pretty silly.


One year.  This was covered in the article, Sarge.  :0
 
2013-06-05 07:40:10 AM  

thamike: hardinparamedic: He's eating the Klukalash?

[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x379]

Krav kalash.


Khlav Kalash.
 
2013-06-05 07:45:26 AM  

moothemagiccow: Democrats immediately slammed the move, asserting that Christie is [___________________] wasting taxpayer money to protect his ambitions.

       (Insert Anything Here)
 
2013-06-05 07:47:29 AM  
Off topic, pardon me, but...

There was a fantastic video homage to Michelle Bachmann last night on the Daily Show. It needs its own thread.

I really had no idea what a complete idiot she was. I mean, I thought she was crazy, manipulative, and evil, pretending to be stupid. But no, she's actually functionally retarded. A worthy successor to Sarah Palin for sure.
 
2013-06-05 07:51:01 AM  

dookdookdook: You know who else pissed off pretty much everyone?


Jar Jar Binks?
 
2013-06-05 07:57:01 AM  
The guy's a blowhard and buffoon regardless of party.
 
2013-06-05 07:57:19 AM  

Atillathepun: Except Christy touted consolidating elections as a fiscally responsible thing to do, but is scheduling the special election 3 weeks before the regular election because he doesn't want Booker voters coming out in force on HIS election day.  Thereby costing his state $12 million unnecessary dollars simply for his own political purposes.


He claims that NJ state law requires this; has anyone yet presented a legal argument to the contrary?  I acknowledge that his statement is self-serving; however, unless someone can prove him incorrect, NJ law requires two separate elections.
 
2013-06-05 07:57:44 AM  
Living so close to NJ and having friends who live in NJ, I try to keep up a bit with NJ politics.

Christie is in no way shape or form scared of Booker.  He's going to eviscerate any democrat who tries to challenge him for the governorship.  There's already talks of not running Booker and putting in some old bull eternal democrat servant to challenge the seat ala Bob Dole.  If the mainstream of the republican party hates Christie then he must be doing something right.  His policies are center right - moderate democrats like him. Extremist republicans hate him because he dared one time to shake Obama's hand.

Sounds like a hell of a president if you ask me.
 
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