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2013-06-04 08:11:00 PM  

umad: rat_creature: OHDUDENESS: what_now: I was in the airport recently for an overnight flight, and I saw a group of cheerleaders and their moms walk into the gate area. That was an incredibly terrifying few minutes, but they were headed for a different plane.

[pic of two blokes playing vidya games]

Possible threadjack, but I'm curious 'cause it shows up in threads from time to time: what the blink is this pic supposed to indicate?

Know how I know you're gay?


...okay, that has got to be the most out-of-left-field accusation of being gay I've ever heard. Does not knowing about an image make someone gay now?
 
2013-06-04 08:12:25 PM  

tripleseven: umad: tripleseven: Do I know for certain that a phone will bring down a plane?

Well I know for certain that a phone will not bring down a plane. - No, no you don't.

But don't let your GED in aeronautical safety stop you from your snowflakishness, it's not like there are 100 or so other people who could possibly be at risk from your decision.

I will let my engineering degree and understanding of physics determine my thinking on the matter. And nobody is at risk because phones don't run on magic. - No, they certainly don't run on magig, but if you believe they are incapable of causing interference, then, you may as well use you GED in engineering for TP.


Even the FCC has stated that the cell phone ban is not scientifically based.  The FAA won't listen.
 
2013-06-04 08:21:29 PM  

rat_creature: umad: rat_creature: OHDUDENESS: what_now: I was in the airport recently for an overnight flight, and I saw a group of cheerleaders and their moms walk into the gate area. That was an incredibly terrifying few minutes, but they were headed for a different plane.

[pic of two blokes playing vidya games]

Possible threadjack, but I'm curious 'cause it shows up in threads from time to time: what the blink is this pic supposed to indicate?

Know how I know you're gay?

...okay, that has got to be the most out-of-left-field accusation of being gay I've ever heard. Does not knowing about an image make someone gay now?


lol. I was really hoping this would happen.

/do a GIS of my previous post
 
2013-06-04 08:34:55 PM  

Madbassist1: Also (I said this in another thread about this) Airtran attendents are coonts.


With the Southwest merger they now have a two-tier wage scale where the AirTran people are not being paid on the level of Southwest staff.  Yes, they are cranky about that.
 
2013-06-04 08:38:55 PM  

Befuddled: When people get kicked off a flight, does the airline refund them the cost of the ticket or tell them that they're SOL? I would think the airline would tell them that they're SOL as those seats could have been filled with paying customers if they hadn't bought tickets in the first place.


Depends.  *Most* tickets are non-refundable fares, meaning the airline has your money and they are never going to give it back.  As all or most of the kids were re-booked on alternate connections, the airline was basically being nice and letting them take empty seats on other flights (fitting some in here, some in there, etc.)
 
2013-06-04 08:45:32 PM  
Go Greyhound
 
2013-06-04 08:59:26 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Tom_Slick: BunkoSquad: "Next year at Six Flags!"

I am trying to figure out why the hell a group from an overpriced NY private school planned a senior trip to Atlanta.  I mean Six Flags is OK but for the passed few years they seem to be on the deferred maintenance plan, the aquarium nice but not of interest to most people above the age of 12, white water rafting on the same river where they filmed Deliverance, a little weird considering there are much better rafting opportunities in the Northeast. Atlanta is an airport you pass through going to somewhere good.

It's really too bad.  I wonder how many of them would have been stabbed at Six Flags Over Georgia.


168 - Some of them multiple times
 
GBB
2013-06-04 09:04:15 PM  
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E-Exceuse me.  Can you please sit down?
 
GBB
2013-06-04 09:05:51 PM  
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GTFO the plane, dirtbags!!
 
2013-06-04 09:25:55 PM  
See what happens to bad kids in jersey.
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2013-06-04 09:26:57 PM  
Come now we all know kids from religious schools would never miss behave.
 
2013-06-04 09:41:32 PM  

tripleseven: I travel frequently. Again, your anecdotal evidence and GED in aeronautical safety are duly noted.


My GED in aeronautical safety?  LOL.  All you need is a baseline understanding of electronics and a little bit of knowledge.  I'm still waiting to hear your explanation of how a device certified by the federal government NOT to interfere with other electronics is going to interfere with the electronics of the plane.
 
2013-06-04 09:42:59 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: OgreMagi: Blame the chaperones. The airline told them that they had to remove the troublesome kids. The chaperones told them that if they kicked off any, it had to be all of them. So the airline said, "we don't have a problem with that."

Of course I am paraphrasing what they actually said.

They should/could have just had one chaperone stay w/ the little bastards that got kicked off.


They could have, but that assumes the chaperones aren't all the same type of self-entitled asshats that the disruptive kids are. That's why they thought "they wouldn't dare kick us all off".
 
2013-06-04 10:02:43 PM  

Honest Bender: tripleseven: I travel frequently. Again, your anecdotal evidence and GED in aeronautical safety are duly noted.

My GED in aeronautical safety?  LOL.  All you need is a baseline understanding of electronics and a little bit of knowledge.  I'm still waiting to hear your explanation of how a device certified by the federal government NOT to interfere with other electronics is going to interfere with the electronics of the plane.


Still waiting for somebody who can prove the certified iPads in question are Wi-Fi only or not. If they are Cel-capable, are they allowed to leave that feature active in flight? Also, do you get more interference from a few units in the hands of the crew, or having 150 broadcasting all over the cabin? Are there studies that show 150 broadcasting cell phones/cel-enabled tablets cause the same interference as 5 units?

I know... people will be crushed when you don't Instagram that photo of your in-flight snack while you're still eating it.
 
2013-06-04 10:08:20 PM  
108... For you, though? Ehhh, 105.
 
2013-06-04 10:08:33 PM  

OnlyM3: gimmegimme [TotalFark]
2013-06-04 02:10:50 PM


That flight attendant did those people the biggest favor of their lives. All 108 of them.

So very confused, farkers are taking the side of air-biatches and turning off phones. What could the reason be? o.O

*clicks link & reads article*

Ohhhh I see, That makes sense now. They kicked jews off.

The only thing farkers hate more than airline stewardess is jews and gwb.



^^^ This.........guy is a farking piece of shiat. Yeah guy, everyone on fark hates Jews. Get the fark outta here with that retarded shiat and go cry some more.
 
2013-06-04 10:22:48 PM  

Well I use Mac/Linux...: It amazes me how so many people either don't realize or don't give a fark how loud they're being.  I was on a flight out of ATL, and there were a handful of teenage girls traveling with I guess some of their moms.  They were about 6-8 rows behind us.  I was sitting right by one of the engines, and had my earphones in and set to max volume, and I could still hear every word they said, as if they were talking to me directly.  Why do people shout at someone who is right beside them?  Just use a normal farking talking voice.  If they are only 2 feet away from you, your voice doesn't need to travel 30 feet for them to hear you.

We took our son out to a restaurant for the first time when he was just over 2 months old.  We were both nervous about him having an outburst and disturbing people (Don't know why, he's a quiet baby), but we knew we had to bite the bullet sooner or later.  He slept half the time, and spent the rest just calmly looking around.  I realized how foolish I was for worrying about him disturbing someone, when every time I go out to eat, I have to listen to the conversation someone else is having on the other side of the dining room.  From now on, I'm officially not going to give a fark if my baby cries for a minute in a restaurant.  Everyone else is being just as loud, if not worse, and is old enough to know better.


I don't know about your specific circumstance, but sometimes there is a loud noise in the background that some folk cannot hear. I have occasionally run into a very high-pitched or low-pitched rumbling sound that makes it impossible for me to understand what's going on, but some, but not all of the other people there cannot hear, which leads to some unusual conversations 'WHAT?! SPEAK UP; I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE ENGINE SOUND' 'what engine?' 'WHAT?' 'there's no engine. Why are you shouting?' 'WHAT?'
 
2013-06-04 10:23:34 PM  
If you've lived and worked in NYC, your reaction to this article, is nothing more than a self-reinforcing chuckle and a large karmic-based smile.

Stereotypes. They exist for a reason.
 
2013-06-04 10:34:39 PM  

Surool: I know... people will be crushed when you don't Instagram that photo of your in-flight snack while you're still eating it.


Why does this argument always get thrown around?  Just because I think their reasoning is bullshiat doesn't mean I would otherwise be on my phone 24/7.
 
d3
2013-06-04 10:49:24 PM  
Fark AirTran! They are the same @$$-holes that changed our flight itinerary  while we were in the air and without telling us and then gave the passengers attitude when we were pissed about it.
 
2013-06-04 10:56:06 PM  
It sounds like the airline was in the right here.  I wouldn't normally favor either the airlines story or the schools story but with the passenger confirming every bit of what the airline claims its hard to think anything else.  The little shiats were told to turn off their electronics and ignored the instruction.

In general I think airlines are far too tolerant of bad behavior.  They should just tell folks not to board unless their phone/I-pad/whatever is off. Then they should immediately kick off anybody ignoring the role.  No second chances.  When you are about to go 35k feet up in the air in a metal can it is no time to ignore the rules.
 
2013-06-04 11:11:41 PM  

Honest Bender: Surool: I know... people will be crushed when you don't Instagram that photo of your in-flight snack while you're still eating it.

Why does this argument always get thrown around?  Just because I think their reasoning is bullshiat doesn't mean I would otherwise be on my phone 24/7.


If you don't know what iPads were approved, or if having 5 broadcast sources cause less interference than 150, just say so. Don't pretend that last line was the focus of my post.

Turning that sh*t off isn't much to ask. Why do people whine about it so much?
 
2013-06-04 11:14:14 PM  

skullkrusher: duffblue: skullkrusher: JesusJuice: Jews crying antisemitism when called out for acting like douchebags?Say it isn't so!

an anti-semitic post biatching about Jews crying about antisemitism. That was some well constructed dickbaggery right there

Not every thing disparaging the jews is anti-semitic, Spike Lee.

that lil article there makes it anti-semitic by definition, Hermann

Parthenogenetic: SultanofSchwing: Pray 4 Mojo: I think this is the sequel to that movie.

"Jews on a Plane"

I preferred "Sheikhs on a Plane," though Hollywood panned it and idk why.

Kikes on a Plane?


dammit, now i have mary poppins stuck in my brain.  and that's just EVIL...
 
2013-06-04 11:17:17 PM  

BalugaJoe: Go Greyhound


I did that once from Bangor to Dayton. God, that was a miserable trip.
 
2013-06-04 11:17:35 PM  

Surool: Honest Bender: tripleseven: I travel frequently. Again, your anecdotal evidence and GED in aeronautical safety are duly noted.

My GED in aeronautical safety?  LOL.  All you need is a baseline understanding of electronics and a little bit of knowledge.  I'm still waiting to hear your explanation of how a device certified by the federal government NOT to interfere with other electronics is going to interfere with the electronics of the plane.

Still waiting for somebody who can prove the certified iPads in question are Wi-Fi only or not. If they are Cel-capable, are they allowed to leave that feature active in flight? Also, do you get more interference from a few units in the hands of the crew, or having 150 broadcasting all over the cabin? Are there studies that show 150 broadcasting cell phones/cel-enabled tablets cause the same interference as 5 units?

I know... people will be crushed when you don't Instagram that photo of your in-flight snack while you're still eating it.


Google is your friend.  The testing was done and approved with the ipads with the cell and wifi radios off.
 
2013-06-04 11:17:39 PM  

Surool: Turning that sh*t off isn't much to ask. Why do people whine about it so much?


Because if I wanted to follow arbitrary rules with no basis in reality, I would go to church.
 
2013-06-04 11:20:41 PM  
It's obviously bullshiat.  There's no way you're going to get me to believe that a bunch of New York jews were being arrogant, pushy and obnoxious.  Yeah right!
 
2013-06-04 11:26:52 PM  

The Southern Dandy: It's obviously bullshiat.  There's no way you're going to get me to believe that a bunch of New York jews were being arrogant, pushy and obnoxious.  Yeah right!


And private school kids are usually so down to Earth!
 
2013-06-04 11:42:18 PM  

LemSkroob: MadMonk: I'm not exaggerating, not even other Jewish people like him.

The Jewish communities here in Queens NY (Forest Hills, mostly) were your fairly typical run-of-the-mill, helps-you-with-your-taxes-jews. you know, the kind who's grandparents grew up on the lower east side and their cousin Murray is now a talent agent out in Hollywood. In the 70s and 80s, they they started hearing about all the Persecution and torment that their brothers in the Bukarian and Orthodox sects were having back in eastern Europe and Central Asia, so they campaigned for a long time to help them out and get them over here after the fall of the USSR.  Well, they accepted the invitation, and proceeded to destroy the existing communities in queens and piss off the people who brought them here. to say they regret it is an understatement. The arrogance and sense of entitlement, and complete lack of respect for others is simply amazing.


having actually read the article, the words "yeshiva of flatbush" made me wonder what would've happened if moses tried to put OUT the fire instead of LISTENING to it.
 
2013-06-04 11:43:27 PM  
First the Holocaust, then this!
 
2013-06-04 11:53:59 PM  

Pfighting Polish: Religion aside, the mere fact that you have a group of 100-plus kids who can afford to take a plane on a senior trip to go rafting and to Six Flags screams spoiled brats.

AirTran: Good work.


This.  I would be very surprised if the airline was wrong here.

StaleCoffee: So because they're from a Jewish school, they're different from other teenagers? Okay.


Actually, I would expect this to make a difference--not because it's Jewish but because it's not public school.  Well-to-do parents very often mean spoiled brats.

Marine1: On one hand, when the flight crew tells you to knock shiat off, you knock shiat off.

On the other hand, the FAA has cleared iPads to replace flight log books in the cockpit, so... why do the cell phones need to be off, again?


The pilots certainly know to have the transmitters off.  Many passengers probably don't even know how.  The energy emitted without the transmitters being energized is miniscule.
 
2013-06-05 12:03:46 AM  

OgreMagi: Resident Muslim: I understand all the frustrated travelers projecting their anger at these kids. I just wanted to say I feel for the kids that actually listened, yet still got kicked off the plane.


/assuming there were some

Blame the chaperones.  The airline told them that they had to remove the troublesome kids.  The chaperones told them that if they kicked off any, it had to be all of them.  So the airline said, "we don't have a problem with that."

Of course I am paraphrasing what they actually said.


Ok.

Thanks for the clarification.


Is it true that there isn't a connecting flight until after 40 years?
 
2013-06-05 12:06:25 AM  

killershark: ggecko: So you are telling me there were 101 kids on this plane, most using their cell phones or ipad's, and not one video??

They were supposed to be turned off at that point. A student posting that would just incriminate themselves. So I guess we'll see it in a few days on Facebook maybe?


Yea I think if the flight crew actually did something wrong, the kids would have video of it.

I fly SW all the time and I have never heard a SW/Airtran crew even say more than 'oh, you'll have to turn that off now' (even as the third warning). I decided these kids and their chaperones were idiots when I heard they were going to ATLANTA for their senior trip.

I get it, you're from New York so you have been to the northeast... but why not Florida, California, a national park, etc. Nobody goes to Atlanta just to go to Six Flags and "white water rafting" (there is not white water rafting in Georgia. wtf.).
 
2013-06-05 12:14:27 AM  

doglover: ceebeecates4: 8 chaperones can't begin to properly control 100 kids.

That's what I said.

8 Victorian teachers, on the other hand, could have controlled a 100 drunken sailors.


hooray, and up she rises early in the mornin'
 
2013-06-05 12:18:16 AM  
When I was 18, a group of about 25 of us (aged 16-18) went to Europe with 2 chaparones.  None of us got lost, and all of us managed to STFU on the airplanes and not get kicked off.  Then again, I'm from South Dakota and most of our parents were the kind that would have no sympathy for punishment because of our shenanigans.  It was also 1999, back in the day when youngsters knew their place.
 
2013-06-05 12:19:14 AM  

ajgeek: BalugaJoe: Go Greyhound

I did that once from Bangor to Dayton. God, that was a miserable trip.


Pussy. Los Angeles to Miami.  The most miserable four (five?) days in my life.  And that includes when I spent a week in the hospital with pneumonia.
 
2013-06-05 12:23:06 AM  

spidermilk: killershark: ggecko: So you are telling me there were 101 kids on this plane, most using their cell phones or ipad's, and not one video??

They were supposed to be turned off at that point. A student posting that would just incriminate themselves. So I guess we'll see it in a few days on Facebook maybe?

Yea I think if the flight crew actually did something wrong, the kids would have video of it.

I fly SW all the time and I have never heard a SW/Airtran crew even say more than 'oh, you'll have to turn that off now' (even as the third warning). I decided these kids and their chaperones were idiots when I heard they were going to ATLANTA for their senior trip.

I get it, you're from New York so you have been to the northeast... but why not Florida, California, a national park, etc. Nobody goes to Atlanta just to go to Six Flags and "white water rafting" (there is not white water rafting in Georgia. wtf.).


Bet you anything they called up every airline in the New York area and asked what was the cheapest price they could give them for 100 kids. Where that flight went was the second question.
 
2013-06-05 12:24:30 AM  
What CNN refrained from mentioning in their article, was that all of the Tweets at the end of the article from "excited students" were actually Tweeted out about 5 minutes after the Stewardess and Captain told everyone to turn off their cell phones and tablets.
 
2013-06-05 12:26:15 AM  
A bunch of rich, self-entitled kids get kicked off a plane and I'm suppose to feel sorry for them?

It's under a 3 hour drive from Brooklyn to Jackson, NJ.  A bus isn't good enough for them?
 
2013-06-05 12:29:25 AM  

spidermilk: killershark: ggecko: So you are telling me there were 101 kids on this plane, most using their cell phones or ipad's, and not one video??

They were supposed to be turned off at that point. A student posting that would just incriminate themselves. So I guess we'll see it in a few days on Facebook maybe?

Yea I think if the flight crew actually did something wrong, the kids would have video of it.

I fly SW all the time and I have never heard a SW/Airtran crew even say more than 'oh, you'll have to turn that off now' (even as the third warning). I decided these kids and their chaperones were idiots when I heard they were going to ATLANTA for their senior trip.

I get it, you're from New York so you have been to the northeast... but why not Florida, California, a national park, etc. Nobody goes to Atlanta just to go to Six Flags and "white water rafting" (there is not white water rafting in Georgia. wtf.).


There is in the Chattooga River and the  Ocoee River which was the home of the 1996 whitewater events for the Olympics.

There there is this list of five places to do it in good old GA.   http://sports.yahoo.com/news/best-5-places-georgia-whitewater-rafting - summer-140500602--spt.html

Are you a yankee too?
 
2013-06-05 12:30:05 AM  

BgJonson79: BgJonson79: grumpyoldmann: Jews claim they have been oppressed for hundreds of years. Why should they claim any different this time?
Israel: Practicing apartheid since 1948.

Aren't their Arab citizens and Knesset members in Israel?

There... derp.


there's so much derp in there even THEIR derps don't know they're farked.
 
2013-06-05 12:34:27 AM  

maddog2314: Yeah, being an observant teenager, among 108 kids there are at least 10 that can't stop yelling "swag," "thug lyfe" and 2 chainz" at the top of their lungs. Also, about 75% of them can't turn off their phones.
/trust me I'm not normal


yolo...  you only land once...
 
2013-06-05 12:38:41 AM  
I once sat next to a woman who was escorted off the plane by the police because she had refused to show her boarding card again when she entered the plane. For some reason she decided to take a very vocal stand on this non-issue. The rest of us applauded when she was gone.
 
2013-06-05 12:41:12 AM  
The only thing farkers hate more than airline stewardess is jews and gwb.

a) airline stewardessES
b) so help them yeshiva of flatbush if one of the attendants was male
c) internet, pig, mud, kids, go play...

oh, and that's without the hate for self-entitled brats.
 
2013-06-05 12:44:06 AM  

PsiChick: I can't say I'd actually be surprised if the kids here were right. Airlines are  dickheads nowadays, and people can be serious assholes to kids just because they're kids.


I know you didn't say this to troll the thread, but I really wish you'd gotten it in a whole lot sooner.
 
2013-06-05 12:46:25 AM  

Securitywyrm: umad: Securitywyrm: And, is it me, or is there a large overlap between the groups "People who complain about having to turn off their cell phone in a plane" "People who complain about having to turn off their cell phone in a movie theater" and 'People who use their cell phones while driving?"

Is it me, or is there a large overlap between the groups "People who demand you turn off your cell phone on a plane with no good evidence as to why" "People who tithe 10% of their income so they won't be struck by lightning" and "People who gassed the Jews because THEMS TEH RULEZ?"

If you're responsible for someone's safety, do you have to justify your rules to them?


are we justifying our art to warren?
 
2013-06-05 12:55:39 AM  

OgreMagi: Satanic_Hamster: OgreMagi: Blame the chaperones. The airline told them that they had to remove the troublesome kids. The chaperones told them that if they kicked off any, it had to be all of them. So the airline said, "we don't have a problem with that."

Of course I am paraphrasing what they actually said.

They should/could have just had one chaperone stay w/ the little bastards that got kicked off.

Perhaps the school should have chosen more intelligent chaperones.


to be fair, intelligent may not be the right answer...  gender issues come into play...  i've actually been an honorary student of an all-girl high school just so that i could go to a national conference under a male chaperone...  if this is orthodox jewish, the loss of one chaperone may have meant none could go...  in which case, nobody goes, and the kids responsible are going to get shunned into oblivion...

no really, so you couldn't get on a plane.  school gets hit with civil suits from every other passenger?  THAT'S fark-worthy
 
2013-06-05 01:00:42 AM  

stuffy: Come now we all know kids from religious schools would never miss behave.


is that a quote from sister mary clarence?
 
2013-06-05 01:19:09 AM  

TheVeryDeadIanMartin: I once sat next to a woman who was escorted off the plane by the police because she had refused to show her boarding card again when she entered the plane. For some reason she decided to take a very vocal stand on this non-issue. The rest of us applauded when she was gone.


i hope someone has the picture...  "no ticket!"
 
2013-06-05 01:24:16 AM  
Student Jonathan Zehavi said he felt they were targeted because they are an identifiably Jewish group.

You knew that was coming. No one can take responsibility for their own actions anymore, everyone has their own protected group these days and everyone else is supposed to walk on egg shells around them until they can grow a pair like the rest of us.
 
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