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(KSL Salt Lake City)   Not news: townspeople are somewhat offended by an "immodest statue" on Main St. Still not news, but funny: the locals take to dressing it up to cover the naughty bits. Facepalm: the city now requires a permit to dress the statue   (ksl.com) divider line 131
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2013-06-04 01:14:56 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Is the 'cool' tag busy waiting for its turn?

And prudes: everybody already knows that you have genitals that you like to use for sexual pleasures. Get over it already.


HEY!  I have genitals that I like to use for sexual pleasure!  You callin' me a prude?!
 
2013-06-04 01:16:50 PM
Utah?!?

How did we get mormons?
I know about the seer stone, the polygamy, the murders and the fact that they think that they are all going to be gods on their own planet, but why here?
Several years ago I lived in a community full of morms and this was just the kind of crap these people do. They wanted people to wear shirts in the community pool. They were also racist jerk offs that used to call the police whenever a black kid showed up.

I just don't see how we can allow this B.S.
 
2013-06-04 01:17:03 PM
In some places, this is called reverse vandalism.  Not quite the same as polishing the genitals of a bronze statue, but...

..ok it's not even close.

tried to find a pic of my hometown art masterpiece but was unable...
 
2013-06-04 01:18:50 PM

Smeggy Smurf: skullkrusher: Smeggy Smurf: mediablitz: The artist is fine with dressing it up, and the city has a sign up list. Why is this a facepalm?

Because Utah claims it's all about the small government.  What they really mean is they're all about small government and Big Church.

what would a "small government" approach to government decorating public property look like?

Absolutely nothing


ok, so if there IS government decorating of public space, a "small government" approach would not be to disallow the public from providing input on those decorations
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-06-04 01:20:59 PM

skullkrusher: Smeggy Smurf: skullkrusher: Smeggy Smurf: mediablitz: The artist is fine with dressing it up, and the city has a sign up list. Why is this a facepalm?

Because Utah claims it's all about the small government.  What they really mean is they're all about small government and Big Church.

what would a "small government" approach to government decorating public property look like?

Absolutely nothing

ok, so if there IS government decorating of public space, a "small government" approach would not be to disallow the public from providing input on those decorations


"small government" = "defund anything I don't like!"
 
2013-06-04 01:22:39 PM
Not news: townspeople dumbfarks are somewhat offended by an "immodest statue" on Main St. dumbfarks.
Still not news, but funny: the locals dumbfarks  take to dressing it up to cover the naughty bits do dumbfarking things.
Facepalm: the city now requires a permit to dress the statue is filled with dubmfarks.

fixed that headline for everyone else
 
2013-06-04 01:27:42 PM
www.danzigner.com
 
2013-06-04 01:40:42 PM

d23: skullkrusher: Smeggy Smurf: skullkrusher: Smeggy Smurf: mediablitz: The artist is fine with dressing it up, and the city has a sign up list. Why is this a facepalm?

Because Utah claims it's all about the small government.  What they really mean is they're all about small government and Big Church.

what would a "small government" approach to government decorating public property look like?

Absolutely nothing

ok, so if there IS government decorating of public space, a "small government" approach would not be to disallow the public from providing input on those decorations

"small government" = "defund anything I don't like!"


That's such a quaint lie by the ignorant.  Small government means only that which is necessary.  Public art or preventing people from dressing it up doesn't fall under that.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-06-04 01:44:05 PM

Smeggy Smurf: That's such a quaint lie by the ignorant. Small government means only that which is necessary. Public art or preventing people from dressing it up doesn't fall under that.


Yeah.. but billion dollar weapons systems that don't work is AOK.

//that was the point.
 
2013-06-04 01:49:48 PM

limeyfellow: It reminds me of the people around here. They included a picture of Michelangelo's David in the paper and the locals hit the roof. One man wrote in saying "I don't know who this David is, but God would strike him down for such immodesty and sin." and another wrote in about how the paper should feel ashamed for showing their children gay pornography.


[Citations desperately needed.]
 
2013-06-04 01:53:59 PM

FarkingReading: BassmanBP: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Oblig hometown statue pic:
[farm4.staticflickr.com image 532x800]

Why is that guy raping a turtle?

I don't understand your question. How is that even not an option?

/off to rape some wildlife


I duuno, I saw some snapping turtles this weekend.  No way am I going anywhere near them.
 
2013-06-04 01:54:36 PM

quickdraw: Itsluautime: Aidan: Itsluautime: "If people aren't talking about it, why do it? You've got to have some people on both sides ... If there isn't some for and against (it), what have you really accomplished?"

In other words, he's an art troll...

He's an artiste. The E is for egregious pretensions. :)

But actually he seems pretty cool with it. I'm perfectly okay with art that's just pretty, but I'm also okay (within reason) with art that is daring. This I think is the former, but I don't live in Utah.

Yeah, I just think it's strange that his idea of good art is something that creates controversy, and I doubt that it was his intention in the first place. A good peice of art gets people talking, but it doesn't necessarily have to have people "for and against it." But whatever, it's a curvacious leaf lady, there shouldn't be a controversy anyway.

He's right. If there's no strong reaction to your art (one way or the other) then you may as well be painting sunsets for bank lobbies. Passionate viewer response is the different between art and decoration.


Which is why Jeff Koons is a genius and Titian is a hack, right?

"Real art creates controversy" is the greatest boon to the untalented since the invention of paint-by-numbers.
 
2013-06-04 02:04:46 PM

Wook: SquiggsIN: Just a another reminder that this nation was founded by prudes with no sense of humor who were so prudish that Europe was "marginalizing" them.  Fast forward to we the descendants and that explains the religious fundamentalism and idiots with an overdeveloped sense of modesty.

Those prudes you've so summarily have lumped together with frothing disdain have also founded the most powerful country on the planet.

Go take a bong hit and masturbate away some of that angst.


It has power. But, does it have a brain?

/America is becoming the Transmutate of the world
//power is pointless if those who wield it are stupider than bricks
 
2013-06-04 02:13:48 PM

skullkrusher: what would a "small government" approach to government decorating public property look like?


I'm flexible.  Some SG types would be 'NOT $1 FOR ART!!!', but really, a certain amount of public art is good for society.  You just don't go over the top.

I kind of like how Mexico handles taxing artists - they allow them to pay their income taxes with art* in lieu of money.  It avoids some of the problems of public money going towards crucifixes in bottles of piss, because there's not that many private individuals/businesses willing to pay huge money for that sort of offensive art.

Other than that, accepting donations of art that at least meets average community mores/norms is a good practice.  Especially if the government is going to take over maintenance of said art.

*Substantially equivalent to what they're actually producing/selling

/Not fine with crucifix in piss not because it insults Christianity, but because I think it's lazy art worth nowhere near what was paid for it.
//Fine with the 'leaf dancer' statue.
 
2013-06-04 02:16:52 PM

Smeggy Smurf: mediablitz: The artist is fine with dressing it up, and the city has a sign up list. Why is this a facepalm?

Because Utah claims it's all about the small government.  What they really mean is they're all about small government and Big Church.


Huh? A sign up list is "Big Government"? Really?
 
2013-06-04 02:18:58 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: mediablitz: The artist is fine with dressing it up, and the city has a sign up list. Why is this a facepalm?

Because the artist wouldn't need to show off how cool he is about the whole situation if he didn't live in an entire town full of people who are this sexually repressed.


I lived in the Bay Area and remember something VERY similar to this occuring. It became something of a contest to come up with designs for the statue.

The Bay Area is certainly not sexually repressed. The artist, however, wanted to press charges.
 
2013-06-04 02:33:45 PM

mediablitz: The Bay Area is certainly not sexually repressed. The artist, however, wanted to press charges.


Hmmm...  The differences between artists reminds me about an old yarn about the differences between good and bad scientists...

Roughly speaking:  Something happens that incontrovertibly invalidates a large amount of a scientist's theories and beliefs.  Magic, FTL, antigravity, whatever.

A Bad scientist will entrench, deny it, and otherwise be obstructionist.
A Good scientist will be elated and be busily exploring the new possibilities.
 
2013-06-04 02:41:12 PM

mediablitz: Smeggy Smurf: mediablitz: The artist is fine with dressing it up, and the city has a sign up list. Why is this a facepalm?

Because Utah claims it's all about the small government.  What they really mean is they're all about small government and Big Church.

Huh? A sign up list is "Big Government"? Really?


Anything not necessary for the government to do that they stick their fingers is exactly that.  By the way you're posting I'm going to assume that you're not capable of making those kinds of decisions.  You need somebody to do it for you and use men with guns to enforce that.
 
2013-06-04 02:53:01 PM
Naked statue in my town:

www.michigandaily.com

People just dress the family with hats and scarves when it gets cold.
 
2013-06-04 02:56:54 PM

quickdraw: Itsluautime: Aidan: Itsluautime: "If people aren't talking about it, why do it? You've got to have some people on both sides ... If there isn't some for and against (it), what have you really accomplished?"

In other words, he's an art troll...

He's an artiste. The E is for egregious pretensions. :)

But actually he seems pretty cool with it. I'm perfectly okay with art that's just pretty, but I'm also okay (within reason) with art that is daring. This I think is the former, but I don't live in Utah.

Yeah, I just think it's strange that his idea of good art is something that creates controversy, and I doubt that it was his intention in the first place. A good peice of art gets people talking, but it doesn't necessarily have to have people "for and against it." But whatever, it's a curvacious leaf lady, there shouldn't be a controversy anyway.

He's right. If there's no strong reaction to your art (one way or the other) then you may as well be painting sunsets for bank lobbies. Passionate viewer response is the different between art and decoration.


"Strong reaction" is different from people being for or against the actual artwork itself. This guy says "If there isn't some for and against (it), what have you really accomplished?" So if no one takes offense to the artwork, then you haven't accomplished anything. Which means if I draw two circles with dots in the middle, title it "boobies" and hang it on the wall in the kids section at Barnes and Noble, I created something more worthy than a beautiful sunset, because boobies rule and sunsets drool!
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-06-04 02:59:33 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Anything not necessary for the government to do that they stick their fingers is exactly that. By the way you're posting I'm going to assume that you're not capable of making those kinds of decisions. You need somebody to do it for you and use men with guns to enforce that.


Well... that ignore is well earned I must say.

//obviously not interested in a debate, interested in calling names.

//"I'm going to assume" you're a right wing asshole.
 
2013-06-04 03:00:57 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Huh? A sign up list is "Big Government"? Really?

Anything not necessary for the government to do that they stick their fingers is exactly that. By the way you're posting I'm going to assume that you're not capable of making those kinds of decisions. You need somebody to do it for you and use men with guns to enforce that.


And there is no litter anywhere, because people are always responsible and don't need anyone to remind them to clean up their mess when they are done with something.
 
2013-06-04 03:01:47 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: Wook: SquiggsIN: Just a another reminder that this nation was founded by prudes with no sense of humor who were so prudish that Europe was "marginalizing" them.  Fast forward to we the descendants and that explains the religious fundamentalism and idiots with an overdeveloped sense of modesty.

Those prudes you've so summarily have lumped together with frothing disdain have also founded the most powerful country on the planet.

Go take a bong hit and masturbate away some of that angst.

It has power. But, does it have a brain?

/America is becoming the Transmutate of the world
//power is pointless if those who wield it are stupider than bricks


America's the new Rome.  I give it another 50 years before the rot and decay from DC makes across the lower 48.
 
2013-06-04 03:17:50 PM

ShamanGator: I'd say that's good planing on the part of the city.
1. Put up an "immodest" statue
2.Charge uptights to dress said statue.
3. Profit

And the plan is working quite well.


Except for the part where I pointed out earlier that the city doesn't charge to dress said statue but instead pays citizens to dress the statue, then yes, going quite well.
 
2013-06-04 03:29:13 PM
I'll bet they put dresses on their Halloween skeletons too.
 
2013-06-04 03:37:51 PM
Puerile little minds.
 
2013-06-04 03:54:22 PM

miltonbabbitt: >Artist (Milt Neely) creates an abstract nude sculpture which is displayed on public street in Utah
>Some residents didn't like the abstract nudity on their streets, so they started dressing it up in various styles of clothing.
>Artist responds by saying: "Cool. They're talking about it. Let them dress it up"
>City now requires permit to dress up the artists work
>Residents - children and adults alike - begin applying for permits to dress it up
>Once loathed as a work of art, residents of all ages are now interacting with the art.
>The statue is now becoming a local tourist attraction of sorts.
>Press coverage ensues
>The artist smiles
>*imokwiththis.jpg*

Milt Neely is apparently an artist with a great attitude about his work.


Yep.  His art is not being destroyed, people are interacting with it where they may have just never cared.  Get's press.  Happy artist.
 
2013-06-04 03:55:53 PM
In before the grammar nazi, I meant to say "gets".
 
2013-06-04 03:57:52 PM

NoGods: Our local high school has a large boulder in the front near the road. One night, some kids painted a happy birthday message on it. The school painted the rock white. A few days later, some other kids painted a different happy birthday message on it. Now the school charges students $25 to allow them to paint an approved message on the rock for one week. When they built a new middle school, it got a new rock that now also gets painted.


And this is how whimsical small-town traditions start.

Ours has the urban legend of a mysterious suburban whorehouse sometime in the Sixties which would display pink flamingos in the yard when it was 'open for business,' and the different numbers and varieties of flamingo, as well as what they wore, implied an elaborate code about how many sex workers, what kind and what sorts of acts were available at the house. Unless one is under six, then one is told that the pink flamingoes meant the old lady was baking cookies and the prank means the targeted party has to make some or Everyone Would Be Disappointed.

So it is now a very popular prank to plant flocks of pink flamingoes in people's yards in the dead of night, and one of the churches actually maintains a flock of over five hundred for fundraising purposes. One can either pay to have a friend's yard flamingoed, purchase flamingo insurance to keep the flock at bay, and if one is flamingoed and wants them gone, one can either A. pay a modest 'shooing fee' to have them removed more quickly, B. bake and donate cookies to the local food bank, or C. call the police and threaten to ruin this lovely tradition for everyone, which merits a shunning the likes of which would make the Amish write to Amnesty International in a shocked huff.

Small towns. They are like that sometimes.
 
2013-06-04 04:34:26 PM

Sybarite: Yes "immodest" as in a suggestion of the outline of the female form.



I was expecting junk or at least some nippleage.


Well, it does look like junk.

/art fan here; just kidding
 
2013-06-04 09:03:25 PM

obamadidcoke: Utah?!?

How did we get mormons?
I know about the seer stone, the polygamy, the murders and the fact that they think that they are all going to be gods on their own planet, but why here?
Several years ago I lived in a community full of morms and this was just the kind of crap these people do. They wanted people to wear shirts in the community pool. They were also racist jerk offs that used to call the police whenever a black kid showed up.

I just don't see how we can allow this B.S.


They picked Utah because at the time it wasn't a state and with the US government busy with everything else they figured no one would stop them.  Brigham Young told his people if the government didn't bug them for seven years then they can't legally stop them after that.  Um, BY was wrong.  Well, BY was wrong about everything but I am only going to address one item for now.
 
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