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(WBAY Green Bay)   The crops are wilting in Farmville   (wbay.com) divider line 80
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2013-06-03 06:18:22 PM  
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2013-06-03 06:24:45 PM  
The cuts come on the heels of earlier efforts to reduce overhead as demand for its games on the social-networking site Facebook fades and more people shift to playing games on mobile devices, where the company finds it more difficult to generate revenue.

Why is it more difficult to generate money on a mobile device vs. Facebook when your income is generated from micropayments and ads?  If anything, I would think it would be easier, as people can now "farm" or whatever else wherever they go.
 
2013-06-03 06:30:55 PM  
There is no joy in Farmville,
Mighty Zynga has struck out.
 
2013-06-03 06:42:13 PM  
Meh. Either play Harvest Moon 64 or Friends of Mineral Town if you want farming, or the Rune Factory series, especially RF3.
 
2013-06-03 06:44:11 PM  
Who'd have thought that a business model that involved ripping off other people's work and then optimizing for a few people who will spend lots of money on it could have failed?
 
2013-06-03 06:45:32 PM  
Tamagachi is dead as....dead.
 
2013-06-03 06:47:22 PM  

que.guero: Who'd have thought that a business model that involved ripping off other people's work and then optimizing for a few people who will spend lots of money on it could have failed?


Or filling every last platform with endless ads to make up for said lack of profit.
 
2013-06-03 06:48:27 PM  
Oh looks like time to harvest the fail. It's ripe and ready.
 
2013-06-03 06:48:31 PM  
I thought it was funny to realize that Mafia Wars was a bigger time sink than World of Warcraft could ever be. Gave up Mafia Wars quickly.
 
2013-06-03 06:49:24 PM  
I will not play any Zynga games. Their nag ware is just too annoying. dice with friends constantly nags you that you need to play and then informs all your friends if you accidentally open it. All that shiat got tossed and I'm not downloading anything with the Zynga name on it.
 
2013-06-03 06:51:57 PM  
Still trying to finish Diablo 2.
 
2013-06-03 06:52:37 PM  
I finally created a facebook page after being hounded by my friends and family about how awesome it was and how it made it easier to plan events and network, well after 2 weeks of farmville updates, fwd.fwd.fwd.fwd type posts I usually autodelete when I see em in my inbox and enough rumors to keep Snopes.com in business for a decade I decided my facebook free life was the correct choice.


/WTF is it with the flood of "xxx just harvested yyy and wants to share" crap anyways?
 
2013-06-03 06:54:14 PM  
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Pray for Pincus...
 
2013-06-03 06:54:24 PM  
$134,000 per person cut.
 
2013-06-03 06:56:09 PM  
I tried too late to submit as, "Unfortunately, 82% of Zynga employees still have a job."
 
2013-06-03 06:56:14 PM  
Zynga subsidized the farmers which caused inflation.

Thanks a lot Obama
 
2013-06-03 06:58:03 PM  

BalugaJoe: Still trying to finish Diablo 2.


Don't feel bad. I bought it on release, and beat it (well, including the expansion) in 2009.
 
2013-06-03 06:58:32 PM  
Eventually, even the monkeys get tired of the Skinner box. The value of the items in these games is entirely subjective.
 
2013-06-03 06:58:46 PM  
BOO Zynga!!!

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2013-06-03 06:58:54 PM  
Hell, I'm still on GTA:VC..Just wreak havoc for an hour or so,,,
I use the PS2 pedestrian cheat code and change him into one of the prostitutes, load up on weapons, and play 'Female Assassin'.
 
2013-06-03 07:00:43 PM  

Pribar: I finally created a facebook page after being hounded by my friends and family about how awesome it was and how it made it easier to plan events and network, well after 2 weeks of farmville updates, fwd.fwd.fwd.fwd type posts I usually autodelete when I see em in my inbox and enough rumors to keep Snopes.com in business for a decade I decided my facebook free life was the correct choice.


/WTF is it with the flood of "xxx just harvested yyy and wants to share" crap anyways?


Dunno, I blocked updates from Farmville and the rest of those types of games about a week after those alerts started coming in.  I don't see many anymore, maybe once every two or three months when a new game comes out.  Same thing with ads that come from friends' pages ("Bubba like the new Ford F-150, here's some info") Pretty much the only thing I see on FB is what I want to see and it's handy for event planning and networking.
 
2013-06-03 07:02:25 PM  

BMFPitt: I tried too late to submit as, "Unfortunately, 82% of Zynga employees still have a job."


I feel a little bad for the regular joe employees, but honestly, at this point, if they haven't already left this sinking ship, it's because they haven't been able to find a job elsewhere.
 
2013-06-03 07:02:34 PM  
One of my friends used to work at Ensemble until Microsoft closed the studio and opened a new one with 1/3 of the employees.  A bunch of those laid-off formed Bonfire Studios and were independent for a short time before Zynga bought them.  I was concerned for him because I know Zynga's model of "steal, steal, bleed customers" wouldn't last forever.

They got notified today that Zynga was shutting them down.  Screw Zynga and their shiatty cash grab games.
 
2013-06-03 07:02:48 PM  
This is pretty bummer news. I have a few friends that work in Zynga Dallas, and I dunno if the rest of the game design industry around here can absorb all of them.
 
2013-06-03 07:03:16 PM  
520 people was only about 18%?  Hell, I'd have thought them to have no more than 30 total.
 
2013-06-03 07:05:58 PM  

Pichu0102: Meh. Either play Harvest Moon 64 or Friends of Mineral Town if you want farming, or the Rune Factory series, especially RF3.


Great games. I wasted way too much time on Harvest Moon 64 when I was a kid. Although, I prefer Rune Factory Frontier to Rune Factory 3.
 
2013-06-03 07:06:53 PM  

TheSelphie: BMFPitt: I tried too late to submit as, "Unfortunately, 82% of Zynga employees still have a job."

I feel a little bad for the regular joe employees, but honestly, at this point, if they haven't already left this sinking ship, it's because they haven't been able to find a job elsewhere.


If there's a janitor who doesn't really know what the company does, I feel bad for him.

The rest of them I consider as low as telemarketers.
 
2013-06-03 07:07:34 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: There is no joy in Farmville,
Mighty Zynga has struck out.


Nice....it should have been mighty Pincus has struck out, IMO.

"By reducing our cost structure today we will offer our teams the runway they need to take risks and develop these breakthrough new social experiences," he said.

Get that everyone. The plane has two flat tires, it's leaking oil, and the pilot is unloading passengers in order to reduce weight and save on fuel. But who cares...because we are still on the mother farking RUNWAY, baby
 
2013-06-03 07:08:57 PM  

timujin: Pribar: I finally created a facebook page after being hounded by my friends and family about how awesome it was and how it made it easier to plan events and network, well after 2 weeks of farmville updates, fwd.fwd.fwd.fwd type posts I usually autodelete when I see em in my inbox and enough rumors to keep Snopes.com in business for a decade I decided my facebook free life was the correct choice.


/WTF is it with the flood of "xxx just harvested yyy and wants to share" crap anyways?

Dunno, I blocked updates from Farmville and the rest of those types of games about a week after those alerts started coming in.  I don't see many anymore, maybe once every two or three months when a new game comes out.  Same thing with ads that come from friends' pages ("Bubba like the new Ford F-150, here's some info") Pretty much the only thing I see on FB is what I want to see and it's handy for event planning and networking.


I suppose it helps if most of your friends and family aren't mouth breathing idiots to begin with )

/why no aunt Bessie I DON'T care what those evil republicans are going to do with your social security, and no cousin Jake I don't care what Obama is up to now...
 
2013-06-03 07:13:07 PM  
"social experiences" = "bug your friends to play/give you stuff/take stuff". Not very social to me.
 
2013-06-03 07:17:02 PM  

sufferpuppet: 520 people was only about 18%?  Hell, I'd have thought them to have no more than 30 total.


This. I didn't know they had that many employees TO RIF.
 
2013-06-03 07:19:09 PM  
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2013-06-03 07:22:45 PM  
In other news, there are people who still play Farmville.
 
2013-06-03 07:24:10 PM  
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Seriously, if your 3000 employee company is entirely based around a couple of games on Facebook and you never make anything else of note, you might not be around for the long term.
 
2013-06-03 07:26:01 PM  
Tried playing Words With Friends for about a week. Never got to actually play a full game because each dumbass that I tried to play with would take 5 to 30 hours to make a single move and then forfeit after a few turns. A game of chess by MAIL moves faster then those farkheads. I gave up and deleted it.

/NO, I don't know Brad farking Baxter
//NO, I don't WANT to farking know him either
///stop farking asking me or else I'm gonna go out and hunt him down and do nasty things to him with a fork
 
2013-06-03 07:26:14 PM  

Pribar: I finally created a facebook page after being hounded by my friends and family about how awesome it was and how it made it easier to plan events and network, well after 2 weeks of farmville updates, fwd.fwd.fwd.fwd type posts I usually autodelete when I see em in my inbox and enough rumors to keep Snopes.com in business for a decade I decided my facebook free life was the correct choice.

/WTF is it with the flood of "xxx just harvested yyy and wants to share" crap anyways?


The key to getting the most out of Facebook:

Settings -> Apps -> Apps you use -> Turn off platform

All the benefits of Facebook (your friends and family can still find you if they need you, you have a quick ranting soapbox when the mood strikes and no one is nearby, you can see cute pictures of your niece, and once in awhile a girl you went to school with will post bikini pics) without the annoying apps bugging you.
 
2013-06-03 07:26:48 PM  
Classic boom and bust - New media style.
 
2013-06-03 07:29:34 PM  

Pribar: I finally created a facebook page after being hounded by my friends and family about how awesome it was and how it made it easier to plan events and network, well after 2 weeks of farmville updates, fwd.fwd.fwd.fwd type posts I usually autodelete when I see em in my inbox and enough rumors to keep Snopes.com in business for a decade I decided my facebook free life was the correct choice.

/WTF is it with the flood of "xxx just harvested yyy and wants to share" crap anyways?


WELCOME TO VENTUREFARM 2.0
...F5...
Mark Pincus just harvested 16,500,000 shares at $11.64 for $192,060,000 and has no more wants.
...F5...
Mark Pincus just harvested 520 employees and has 2800 more to share.
 
2013-06-03 07:31:53 PM  
came here for good cat

/Leaving disappointed :(
 
2013-06-03 07:43:09 PM  
For a while, I thought the elderly office women who talked about their 'farms' were just making fun of the webdorks there.  Then I made the mistake of asking one of them about it.
 
2013-06-03 07:51:01 PM  

jso2897: BalugaJoe: Still trying to finish Diablo 2.

Don't feel bad. I bought it on release, and beat it (well, including the expansion) in 2009.


I bought it on release day and haven't opened it yet.  Still sitting  on my shelf, one day I'll get to it.
 
2013-06-03 07:52:11 PM  
Time to move out of town, Pincus. There are other rubes to fleece out there and looks like these are plucking chickens and warming up some asphalt.
 
2013-06-03 07:52:39 PM  

KillerChihuahua: In other news, there are people who still play Farmville.


Who knew? In the first week I had an account those people drove me crazy and I blocked all their updates.

aerojockey:  and once in awhile a girl you went to school with will post bikini pics

No thanks. My 40th class reunion is this year and I do not want.
 
2013-06-03 07:59:35 PM  

Pribar: timujin: Pribar: I finally created a facebook page after being hounded by my friends and family about how awesome it was and how it made it easier to plan events and network, well after 2 weeks of farmville updates, fwd.fwd.fwd.fwd type posts I usually autodelete when I see em in my inbox and enough rumors to keep Snopes.com in business for a decade I decided my facebook free life was the correct choice.


Oh now, you don't want to put the post office out of business do you?  I am with you, of course, and still send actual paper cards, the occasional letter and/or invitation to an upcoming event.  I text too, but expect a confirmation.  Don't bother with Fb for family events, some are really organized and post and send constant reminders (annoying) and others post once and never send reminders (really, really annoying) Much as it pains me, I'll pick up the phone or send a letter once in a while to garner a response, no matter how small.  Sometimes communication in the 21st century sucks.  Give it another 20 years and stupid people like me will have to hire private couriers to deliver responses, ala The Pony Express. And here we all think we're marching forward and not falling backward.
 
2013-06-03 08:12:50 PM  
Are they making the rest of the employees give back they "vested" stock again too?

Not that that will really matter to them in the long run...
 
2013-06-03 08:16:05 PM  

sufferpuppet: 520 people was only about 18%?  Hell, I'd have thought them to have no more than 30 total.


Their HQ in San Francisco's Design Center district is rather large. Looks like a shopping mall from the inside. About 6 stories tall, huge open atrium in the center for people to eat and play games. Floors surrounding the main atrium are where the offices are, but people don't have private individual offices (except for a few, I'm sure). You just get a seat on a huge table. There's your monitor, which you plug in to your laptop or iPad.
 
2013-06-03 08:16:59 PM  
Obvious tag laughing too hard to make an appearance?
 
2013-06-03 08:19:16 PM  
Before I read the rest of the posts in this thread, I want to throw in my own comments.

I have been playing Zynga games since late 2009. I started with Mafia Wars, which was kind of cool, because since it was mostly text-based and the graphics were small, web-based JPGs, it loaded easily, was fast to play allowed interaction with others, was kind of cool on its plot and in-game play and was addictive.

One evening I saw Zynga change its Cuba section where you had to purchase a certain item in game rather than "collect" it automatically as players had been doing up until that point. So, basically, you had become so used to it, so pacified in hitting the button to "collect," that unless you noticed -- and many, in my opinion, probably did not -- you ended up spending "in game cash" for that item.

When I saw this happen, it woke me up to the idea / fact / possibility that this was a company which might not exactly have its players' best interests in mind.

Zynga is where it is today because it has forced -- yes, forced -- players of its games to purchase in-game items if they wish to continue within t heir games. I stopped playing Café World because I started having to click ten, eleven different pop-up in-game boxes when I would first log on. If it wasn't some goddamn quest I had no interest in, it was a pop-up that said "Hey! Guess what! BUY!". The company has continued this tradition up until today and will continue it until they declare bankruptcy.

Now, when I say "forced," I mean that you are forced. For example. When I would log onto Empires & Allies -- a game, I might add, that Zynga is now closing down to try to save money -- I would have something that would say like "Blah blah blah is doing this! Go now!" and no option to click out. I would have to click 'OK' and the game would take me to that option whether I wanted to do that or not. Maybe I had five minutes only to play. Maybe I had five hours. But I didn't feel in control and that was because Zynga was about control and pushing its in-game products and not caring about its users. Zynga would continue to add more items in game to buy while not fixing bugs in FrontierVille.

And, while I talk about in game, I could mention what I have already, Café World, left behind by me because too much was happening at once. FrontierVille, now Pioneer Trail, had dozens of quests at one time. ALL of those required you to PESTER YOUR FACEBOOK FRIENDS. This eventually caused a rift between Zynga and Facebook, with literally thousands of people complaining to Facebook about getting spammed for in-game requests for games they didn't play.

Zynga eventually fixed this in mid to late 2012 by providing an option to add in-game "friends" that weren't on your Facebook friends. But the damage is done.

Bottom line? Greed, as usual. Not paying their developers enough. Stealing ideas from other companies and modifying them for yourself. Marketing and promotion not used properly. Zynga is, in a word, screwed.
 
2013-06-03 08:20:58 PM  

theorellior: Time to move out of town, Pincus. There are other rubes to fleece out there and looks like these are plucking chickens and warming up some asphalt.


Unfortunately for him, he just plunked down $20million or so for a house in Pac Heights. Then again, if he sells it, it won't be at a loss.
 
2013-06-03 08:23:07 PM  
In other news, there are people who still play Farmville.
----

I actually kind of liked Farmville, and still visit my Farm on occasion.
Lately I am playing Farmville 2 because a lot of my actual FB friends are playing it.
I rather enjoy FV 2 because the animation is a bit better, the algorithms written better (for instance, if you make feed for your hungry animals, the code makes them pay attention to it and start walking toward you) and the "quests" a bit easier to handle. I just wish that FV 2 didn't limit itself in-game to level achievements. Zynga is starting to over-do Farmville 2 the same as they have done every single other damn game. Right now I have about six or seven "buildings" in my inventory that I don't want to or can't place because I don't have the space for it on my "farm."

I still like the animation though. Interesting to see the pig randomly roll in mud, the chickens walk through crops, etc. If FV 2 has done anything, it's upped the independent codes for almost every single thing you see.
 
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