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2013-06-03 04:12:18 PM  
So, uh...anyone mind hiding a few 55 gallon drums in their basement for the next few days?

There's nothing bad in them, or anything. Just bad people. Erm, I mean bad smells. yeah. that's it.
 
2013-06-03 04:17:58 PM  
Hey America... guess what?

THE TERRORISTS WON
 
2013-06-03 04:26:16 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Hey America... guess what?

THE TERRORISTS WON


But we're totally safe from terrorism now!!!

wallfive.com
 
2013-06-03 04:26:34 PM  
Heh - welcome to the world that US librarians have been living in for years.  The feds can come in, demand checkout records, and the library can't even tell anyone they were there.  All part of the USA-PATRIOT Act that Congress rushed to pass in the wake of 9/11.  Never mind that librarians yelled loud and long about potential abuse - it had to be done!  To give our heroic crime fighters a chance to nab those sneaky sleeper cell evil-doers!  Because terror.  Or something.

tl;dr - Bend over, citizen.  It's legal.
 
2013-06-03 04:26:50 PM  
Seig, heil!
 
2013-06-03 04:28:30 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Hey America... guess what?

THE TERRORISTS WON

 
2013-06-03 04:28:32 PM  
The Patriot Act ensures your safety, citizen.
 
2013-06-03 04:29:32 PM  
I thought CP meant Cheese Pizza! I SWEAR!
 
2013-06-03 04:29:55 PM  

hardinparamedic: So, uh...anyone mind hiding a few 55 gallon drums in their basement for the next few days?

There's nothing bad in them, or anything. Just bad people. Erm, I mean bad smells. yeah. that's it.


t1.gstatic.com

Better keep those sealed
 
2013-06-03 04:35:04 PM  
Welcome to your fascist nation.
 
2013-06-03 04:35:59 PM  

FarkedOver: I thought CP meant Cheese Pizza! I SWEAR!


And thanks to wild hysteria replacing jurisprudence, everyone who votes on or replies to this will get hauled in too.

/Ah, dammit!
 
2013-06-03 04:37:09 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Heh - welcome to the world that US librarians have been living in for years.  The feds can come in, demand checkout records, and the library can't even tell anyone they were there.  All part of the USA-PATRIOT Act that Congress rushed to pass in the wake of 9/11.  Never mind that librarians yelled loud and long about potential abuse - it had to be done!  To give our heroic crime fighters a chance to nab those sneaky sleeper cell evil-doers!  Because terror.  Or something.

tl;dr - Bend over, citizen.  It's legal.


Just because some authority figure touched your no-no places when you were young don't mean you take it out on us, crackpot.
 
2013-06-03 04:37:49 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Hey America... guess what?

THE TERRORISTS WON


-Billy West, Futurama commentary Season 4, Ep 05 [A Taste of Freedom] (in reference to having to cut out scenes in which the Decapodians destroy numerous New New York buildings because of possible 9/11 imagery)
 
2013-06-03 04:38:43 PM  
But anything I Ask Jeeves is privileged, right?
 
2013-06-03 04:38:48 PM  
Hey Drew how many National Security Letters has fark.com gotten?
 
2013-06-03 04:41:03 PM  

rjakobi: Benevolent Misanthrope: Heh - welcome to the world that US librarians have been living in for years.  The feds can come in, demand checkout records, and the library can't even tell anyone they were there.  All part of the USA-PATRIOT Act that Congress rushed to pass in the wake of 9/11.  Never mind that librarians yelled loud and long about potential abuse - it had to be done!  To give our heroic crime fighters a chance to nab those sneaky sleeper cell evil-doers!  Because terror.  Or something.

tl;dr - Bend over, citizen.  It's legal.

Just because some authority figure touched your no-no places when you were young don't mean you take it out on us, crackpot.


Wat?
 
2013-06-03 04:43:29 PM  

neversubmit: Hey Drew how many National Security Letters has fark.com gotten?


Heh, would you be more disappointed if the answer was lots... or none?
 
2013-06-03 04:43:31 PM  
I meant to type "anal threesome ginger shaved" but instead I accidentally typed "IED remote detonator instructions".

Damn these sausage fingers!

/brb.  rcmp@door
 
2013-06-03 04:48:27 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Heh - welcome to the world that US librarians have been living in for years.  The feds can come in, demand checkout records, and the library can't even tell anyone they were there.  All part of the USA-PATRIOT Act that Congress rushed to pass in the wake of 9/11.  Never mind that librarians yelled loud and long about potential abuse - it had to be done!  To give our heroic crime fighters a chance to nab those sneaky sleeper cell evil-doers!  Because terror.  Or something.

tl;dr - Bend over, citizen.  It's legal.


Most (properly run) libraries don't even keep those records. Once an item is returned, the record of the checkout is wiped (or at least anonymized). Our local library director is married to a Lt. in the local PD, and the cops come in with requests all the time. She's told her own husband to go pound sand.
 
2013-06-03 04:49:02 PM  
America: It's a PRESSURE COOKER READY TO BLOW.
 
2013-06-03 04:58:15 PM  
Hopefully Google will "lose" the data and then change their protocols so they don't store it. Can't subpoena what they don't have.
 
2013-06-03 05:00:44 PM  
https://www.google.com/#bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=a3005c6b0ad50f75&q= p oorly

Was that wrong?  Should I not have done that? I tell you, I gotta plead ignorance on this thing, because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing is frowned upon... you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices, and I tell you, people do that all the+++++++CARRIER LOST+++++++
 
2013-06-03 05:02:14 PM  
Duh! Use Bing, problem solved!
 
2013-06-03 05:05:04 PM  

JesusJuice: Hopefully Google will "lose" the data and then change their protocols so they don't store it. Can't subpoena what they don't have.


Their entire business is structured on mining data for targeting ads. If there's one thing Google has a lot of, it's data... and they never delete it.
 
2013-06-03 05:10:30 PM  
www.duckduckgo.com

Seriously.

/I wish it was a rick roll.....
 
2013-06-03 05:12:01 PM  

GWSuperfan: Benevolent Misanthrope: Heh - welcome to the world that US librarians have been living in for years.  The feds can come in, demand checkout records, and the library can't even tell anyone they were there.  All part of the USA-PATRIOT Act that Congress rushed to pass in the wake of 9/11.  Never mind that librarians yelled loud and long about potential abuse - it had to be done!  To give our heroic crime fighters a chance to nab those sneaky sleeper cell evil-doers!  Because terror.  Or something.

tl;dr - Bend over, citizen.  It's legal.

Most (properly run) libraries don't even keep those records. Once an item is returned, the record of the checkout is wiped (or at least anonymized). Our local library director is married to a Lt. in the local PD, and the cops come in with requests all the time. She's told her own husband to go pound sand.


Yes, and we did that because of the USA-PATRIOT Act.  Also - new discovery layers allow the patron to opt-in to keeping a reading history.  But none of them have default language telling the user exactly what kinds of abuses they may be inviting.  Some systems allow you to change that language, some don't.  So, while the library may not keep it as a matter of course, patrons may choose for the system to hang onto it at the discovery layer level (if it's a tunneled version) or in the OPAC (if it's integrated).  Either way, a "properly run" library may indeed have that information because a patron was ignorant of the consequences.

/Don't get me started on system logs and discoverable data linkages.
 
m00
2013-06-03 05:19:06 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Heh - welcome to the world that US librarians have been living in for years.  The feds can come in, demand checkout records, and the library can't even tell anyone they were there.  All part of the USA-PATRIOT Act that Congress rushed to pass in the wake of 9/11.  Never mind that librarians yelled loud and long about potential abuse - it had to be done!  To give our heroic crime fighters a chance to nab those sneaky sleeper cell evil-doers!  Because terror.  Or something.

tl;dr - Bend over, citizen.  It's legal.



I remember. Republicans collectively went through a book-burning witch hunt phase. The few, real conservatives protested.
 
2013-06-03 05:23:56 PM  

m00: Benevolent Misanthrope: Heh - welcome to the world that US librarians have been living in for years.  The feds can come in, demand checkout records, and the library can't even tell anyone they were there.  All part of the USA-PATRIOT Act that Congress rushed to pass in the wake of 9/11.  Never mind that librarians yelled loud and long about potential abuse - it had to be done!  To give our heroic crime fighters a chance to nab those sneaky sleeper cell evil-doers!  Because terror.  Or something.

tl;dr - Bend over, citizen.  It's legal.


I remember. Republicans collectively went through a book-burning witch hunt phase. The few, real conservatives protested.


It's not like Democrats didn't vote for it as well.  That was one huge cluster-dark, that got perpetuated later.  I hope it's the single biggest blow to civil rights in my lifetime, but sadly I doubt it will be.
 
2013-06-03 05:27:37 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: GWSuperfan: Benevolent Misanthrope: Heh - welcome to the world that US librarians have been living in for years.  The feds can come in, demand checkout records, and the library can't even tell anyone they were there.  All part of the USA-PATRIOT Act that Congress rushed to pass in the wake of 9/11.  Never mind that librarians yelled loud and long about potential abuse - it had to be done!  To give our heroic crime fighters a chance to nab those sneaky sleeper cell evil-doers!  Because terror.  Or something.

tl;dr - Bend over, citizen.  It's legal.

Most (properly run) libraries don't even keep those records. Once an item is returned, the record of the checkout is wiped (or at least anonymized). Our local library director is married to a Lt. in the local PD, and the cops come in with requests all the time. She's told her own husband to go pound sand.

Yes, and we did that because of the USA-PATRIOT Act.  Also - new discovery layers allow the patron to opt-in to keeping a reading history.  But none of them have default language telling the user exactly what kinds of abuses they may be inviting.  Some systems allow you to change that language, some don't.  So, while the library may not keep it as a matter of course, patrons may choose for the system to hang onto it at the discovery layer level (if it's a tunneled version) or in the OPAC (if it's integrated).  Either way, a "properly run" library may indeed have that information because a patron was ignorant of the consequences.

/Don't get me started on system logs and discoverable data linkages.


I am pretty sure our library encourages every to opt into the reading list just to have those records. Many librarians are not happy with wiping of library records.
 
2013-06-03 05:29:23 PM  
The terrorists hate us for our freedoms! It's nice to see that the US government is making us safer by taking away our freedoms, thus causing the terrorists to hate us less.
 
2013-06-03 05:32:21 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
Same Obama that excoriated the Bush administration for abusing its powers by spying on its citizens and toted the 4th Amendment around as a campaign issue.  Hope. change... BS Obama extended the patriot act at the 11th hr thru 2015. Have a nice day, citizen.
 
2013-06-03 05:33:50 PM  
They're called "G-Men", subby.  Federal fuzz is what J. Edgar Hoover left on his nylon stockings.
 
m00
2013-06-03 05:36:21 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: I hope it's the single biggest blow to civil rights in my lifetime


I'm with ya brother.

Sometimes I think all this nonsense that Congress is doing is merely a coordinated and planned cover by both parties working together in order to sneak through anti-civil liberty legislation while nobody is paying attention. They are doing this on behalf of the 1%, which of course is exempt in either the application or implementation (the 1% doesn't go to libraries for example). Because the 1% are on a quest to turn their economic monopoly into a political monopoly where they are the only ones with rights in personhood, so as to create 21st century political and economic slavery of others so the 1% can fulfill their pharaoh fantasies.
 
2013-06-03 05:39:40 PM  
I hate to interrupt all this pearl-clutching, but can you find out if you're the target of one of these fascist Patriot Act requests via an FOIA?

If so, I think I might set up a web site to let people easily file these.  No charge unless there's an actual result.  Probably not make much, since 99.9% of people won't have results, but putting the FBI through the blizzard of paperwork would be worth it.
 
2013-06-03 05:41:31 PM  
So this begs the question: What's the worst thing you've ever Googled inadvertently?

I was trying to google the comments I made in the original fark thread relating the Glenn Beck 1990 meme.

I googled Glenn Beck raped and murdered stile4aly
 
2013-06-03 05:42:23 PM  

GWSuperfan: Most (properly run) libraries don't even keep those records. Once an item is returned, the record of the checkout is wiped (or at least anonymized). Our local library director is married to a Lt. in the local PD, and the cops come in with requests all the time. She's told her own husband to go pound sand.


When our school district changed systems I complained that the new settings were to keep the history.  Yes, it's convenient when a kid comes in and asks for "that red book that I checked out last year" but it still irks me.  Wish they could at least make it site specific so I could turn it off.

/parapro member of the Guild of Militant Librarians
 
2013-06-03 06:02:34 PM  

RandomExcess: Benevolent Misanthrope: GWSuperfan: Benevolent Misanthrope: Heh - welcome to the world that US librarians have been living in for years.  The feds can come in, demand checkout records, and the library can't even tell anyone they were there.  All part of the USA-PATRIOT Act that Congress rushed to pass in the wake of 9/11.  Never mind that librarians yelled loud and long about potential abuse - it had to be done!  To give our heroic crime fighters a chance to nab those sneaky sleeper cell evil-doers!  Because terror.  Or something.

tl;dr - Bend over, citizen.  It's legal.

Most (properly run) libraries don't even keep those records. Once an item is returned, the record of the checkout is wiped (or at least anonymized). Our local library director is married to a Lt. in the local PD, and the cops come in with requests all the time. She's told her own husband to go pound sand.

Yes, and we did that because of the USA-PATRIOT Act.  Also - new discovery layers allow the patron to opt-in to keeping a reading history.  But none of them have default language telling the user exactly what kinds of abuses they may be inviting.  Some systems allow you to change that language, some don't.  So, while the library may not keep it as a matter of course, patrons may choose for the system to hang onto it at the discovery layer level (if it's a tunneled version) or in the OPAC (if it's integrated).  Either way, a "properly run" library may indeed have that information because a patron was ignorant of the consequences.

/Don't get me started on system logs and discoverable data linkages.

I am pretty sure our library encourages every to opt into the reading list just to have those records. Many librarians are not happy with wiping of library records.


Remind me not to use your library... your librarians are not well trained!
 
2013-06-03 06:03:13 PM  

GWSuperfan: Benevolent Misanthrope: Heh - welcome to the world that US librarians have been living in for years.  The feds can come in, demand checkout records, and the library can't even tell anyone they were there.  All part of the USA-PATRIOT Act that Congress rushed to pass in the wake of 9/11.  Never mind that librarians yelled loud and long about potential abuse - it had to be done!  To give our heroic crime fighters a chance to nab those sneaky sleeper cell evil-doers!  Because terror.  Or something.

tl;dr - Bend over, citizen.  It's legal.

Most (properly run) libraries don't even keep those records. Once an item is returned, the record of the checkout is wiped (or at least anonymized). Our local library director is married to a Lt. in the local PD, and the cops come in with requests all the time. She's told her own husband to go pound sand.


Good.
 
2013-06-03 06:09:22 PM  
umm yea unh Feds, theres this guy named george, I think, maybe george jr. or with a last name that reminds me of shrubbery. He like killed 125,000 people, like in a genocide that took like 6 years at least.
Hes even bribed the police and politicians in certain countries, that allow him in, to actually protect him, while the police beat down the protesters calling for his arrest.
Hes lives on some ranch in Texas and apparently he also built a library full of rightwing propaganda. Not sure if there is any Hitler Third Reich memorabilia though. He did have a Black girlfriend for a few months, so pretty sure he wasn't a full on white supremacist.
He may have even perverted some young minds who visited that library. I'm pretty sure he didn't touch them on their private parts, but you never know with simple minded people like him.

Thanks awesome fed dudes.

/His also had a buddy who helped him kill and torture people, by the name of Dick or maybe richard. With a last name of something like metal links. He has a metal heart now, since he ran out of fresh victims hearts.
 
2013-06-03 06:09:36 PM  

FarkedOver: I thought CP meant Cheese Pizza! I SWEAR!


CSB

After a significant brain fart while reading a forum, I forgot the JK was used as an abbreviation for joking.  So I went to look up JK on the interwebs.  Little did I know at the time that JK was also an abbreviation for certain types of Japanese porn.

FYI, this story occurred a bit before JK Rowling was a household name, so searching JK is probably a bit safer now than it was back then.

/CSB
 
2013-06-03 06:45:03 PM  

MisterRonbo: I hate to interrupt all this pearl-clutching, but can you find out if you're the target of one of these fascist Patriot Act requests via an FOIA?


Probably not. Requests for material related to ongoing investigations generally may be denied.
 
2013-06-03 07:07:20 PM  
There is a Fark Librarians Guild. That's pretty cool.
 
2013-06-03 07:16:33 PM  

rjakobi: Benevolent Misanthrope: Heh - welcome to the world that US librarians have been living in for years.  The feds can come in, demand checkout records, and the library can't even tell anyone they were there.  All part of the USA-PATRIOT Act that Congress rushed to pass in the wake of 9/11.  Never mind that librarians yelled loud and long about potential abuse - it had to be done!  To give our heroic crime fighters a chance to nab those sneaky sleeper cell evil-doers!  Because terror.  Or something.

tl;dr - Bend over, citizen.  It's legal.

Just because some authority figure touched your no-no places when you were young don't mean you take it out on us, crackpot.


You are a douche, but you just line up for your "Freedom Fondel" citizen.
 
2013-06-03 07:20:15 PM  

obamadidcoke: rjakobi: Benevolent Misanthrope: Heh - welcome to the world that US librarians have been living in for years.  The feds can come in, demand checkout records, and the library can't even tell anyone they were there.  All part of the USA-PATRIOT Act that Congress rushed to pass in the wake of 9/11.  Never mind that librarians yelled loud and long about potential abuse - it had to be done!  To give our heroic crime fighters a chance to nab those sneaky sleeper cell evil-doers!  Because terror.  Or something.

tl;dr - Bend over, citizen.  It's legal.

Just because some authority figure touched your no-no places when you were young don't mean you take it out on us, crackpot.

You are a douche, but you just line up for your "Freedom Fondel" citizen.


What do you think we're doing every time we go to the airport?
 
2013-06-03 07:22:45 PM  
Fark them. If the FBI is concerned with my web search history, They may be less happy about my IED Maker Fair.

I got plans for making an efp out of a #10 can and a couple of feet of copper wire. I learned to make them at Ft. Benning and taught them to foreign military guys mainly from the Middle East.
 
2013-06-03 07:39:57 PM  
They hate us for our search engines.
 
2013-06-03 07:49:32 PM  

MisterRonbo: I hate to interrupt all this pearl-clutching, but can you find out if you're the target of one of these fascist Patriot Act requests via an FOIA?


National Security is right in its freaking name; NSL=National Security Letter.

How could anyone think the government would *not* claim a national security exemption under FOIA?
 
2013-06-03 07:50:37 PM  

ruinevil: JesusJuice: Hopefully Google will "lose" the data and then change their protocols so they don't store it. Can't subpoena what they don't have.

Their entire business is structured on mining data for targeting ads. If there's one thing Google has a lot of, it's data... and they never delete it.


You may be right, but I imagine they could store the data in such a way that it's impossible to identify individual customers.  On the other hand, storing the data w/o identifying info would make targeted ads pretty impossible.

Do any smart people care to opine?
 
2013-06-03 08:05:11 PM  
I'm in trouble for my Gay Midget Porn searches?
 
2013-06-03 08:10:38 PM  

tjfly: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 320x400]
Same Obama that excoriated the Bush administration for abusing its powers by spying on its citizens and toted the 4th Amendment around as a campaign issue.  Hope. change... BS Obama extended the patriot act at the 11th hr thru 2015. Have a nice day, citizen.


poor Cheney.  he must be wondering what he did wrong since he never imagined he could get away with what is going on today.
 
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